Teachers oppose 'cuts'

By Jessica Musicar, Staff Writer
Friday, November 20, 2009 | 30 comment(s)

North Bend teacher contract mediation

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NORTH BEND — Teachers in North Bend want a contract and they want it now.

They made their feelings known Thursday afternoon, as a group of about 30 North Bend, and some Coos Bay instructors, banged drums, chanted, hooted and waved signs for the North Bend Education Association negotiating team. Negotiators walked into the North Bend School District Office for a second mediation session.

“These are our colleagues in education who are here to show they are supportive of the negotiation team and the requests we are making,” Association President Tanya Sinko said, before walking into the office. “They are saying no to an 8.5 percent pay cut.”

Today, school board chairwoman Deb Reid said that the 8.5 percent figure is inaccurate.

“What we’re asking for is 0 percent pay increase and no increase in their insurance,” Reid said.

She wasn’t sure where teachers are getting the 8.5 percent cut, although it might be connected to a proposal to cut school days.

“We’re puzzled by it,” Reid said.

She said teachers have a cap on their insurance plan, so when rates go up teachers pay out of pocket to make up the difference. She noted the teams worked on the contract until about 3 a.m. today. They still can’t agree.

The two sides went into mediation Sept. 30, after negotiators requested help from the Employment Relations Board Conciliation Service Office.

Sinko said the two sides are operating under a closed bargaining model, but the district has presented teachers with the same offer since April. Teachers also are opposed to cutting days. The district has proposed to cut up to 10 instruction days. Students would get less class time, teachers said, and instructors wouldn’t get pay for the days off work.

Reid said the district has planned six cut days in its budget. Each day represents about a .5 percent cut in teachers’ income, she explained.

While negotiations haven’t progressed, Sinko said union members have not discussed the possibility of a strike.

“We have not had any conversations surrounding that as an association yet,” Sinko said.

She refused to speculate when that conversation would occur.

“We’re hoping that the board is going to make some movement based on the show of support at the last board meeting in November.”

More than two dozen teachers attended the school district’s Nov. 9 board meeting to demonstrate support for union negotiators.

After the team walked into the office at 1913 Meade St., teachers walked around the block, chanting “Give us a contract now,” and “Give us some dinero.” White signs, drawn up in marker, exclaimed “no cut days” “Education First,” “NB students deserve a full year,” and “Support our schools.”

One sign holder, North Bend High School councilor Pam Romanko, said teachers rallied to show support for the team, which has put in a lot of hours on building a contract.

“We don’t want to keep working without a contract,” she said. “We’d like a fair contract. I think teachers are working harder with less and we want to do a good job for the people of the North Bend School District.”

Reid said the contract expired on July 1, and teachers are operating under the same salary as last year.

Teachers said the lack of a contract and recent changes in benefits have been disheartening.

“We love our jobs, but we want to be compensated fairly,” said Ruth Ellen Melton, a fourth-grade teacher at Hillcrest Elementary.

Sara and Jeff Buskerud, who both work at Hillcrest, said they are paying about $300 a month combined for medical insurance. Last year, it cost about $170 per month.

“I’m hoping they’ll come to some decision that will benefit us,” Sara Buskerud said.
Coos Bay is also in mediation




Coos Bay school officials and teachers head back to mediation Tuesday, after half a year of negotiations. The two sides are deadlocked on salary, benefits and workday issues.


School Board Chairman David Ford posted a letter to the district’s Web site this week, urging teachers to accept a 2 percent increase in wages and benefits each year. He noted the district’s other employee groups accepted the same offer.


The district lost state funding due to the recession and faces further cuts because it lost 82 students this year.

“We are all in this together, so we all need to work through these hard times and look forward to better times, ...” he wrote. “In the meantime, let’s be fair with each other and with those around us.”


Lynda Sanders, teachers union president, said the district has made similar offers in the past without following through on them.


“The school board changes every two years,” she said. “Just because one school board says that, doesn’t mean others will.”


While Coos Bay and North Bend teachers all are in mediation, they won’t influence each others’ decisions, said Sanders. That includes whether to strike, which Sanders said is an option.


“We would always prefer to settle,” she said.


” By Staff Writer Alexander Rich
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runnermom wrote on Nov 27, 2009 10:50 AM:

To Citizen:
A+ for your spelling; D for your grammar and run-on sentences. Also, a D for your understanding of the sacrifices North Bend teachers have made over the past eight years to allow the District, A.K.A. savings/investment company, to maintain sizeable cash balances while students were denied 5-10 days of education EACH YEAR. Maybe you were one of them?

bfrazier wrote on Nov 25, 2009 4:06 PM:

The Bay Area has for decades relegated itself as a backwoods backwater; a community which squandered its timber saving nil resources for its future inheritances, blamed the owls instead of the loggers, blamed the oceanographers instead of the fishermen, and here blame the teachers instead of themselves for a rapidly eroding educational system.

It is just so sad so many seem so proud (and unapologetic) to continue to do so.

Education is the best investment any community can make - the evidence to wit overwhelming, and yet herein some are begrudging educators a compensation package that is, at best, unappreciative. Well, at least you are consistent at pointing the finger in the wrong direction.

87 wrote on Nov 24, 2009 9:35 PM:

I'm curious about the petition and recall mentioned in one of the posts. I for one would sign a petition to get rid of BJ Whatshername. The Board needs to let her go before she drags them down with her. She gets paid something like $100,000 a year, and doesn't live in town. The NB teachers I know can't stand her and would like nothing better than to see her get the axe. Go for it teachers! Sounds like you have nothing to lose.

Citizen wrote on Nov 24, 2009 8:16 PM:

I suppose the reason we all have distrust for the teachers is that even though Oregon is working on achieving the highest unemployment rate in the United States the "smartest" folks in the community are asking for a pay raise and so forth. I guess if you're smart you are exempt from this economic down-turn. I guess you could be smart and just not watch the news or read the paper or listen to the radio or talk to anyone who does any of those things and have a conversation with them and yet still feel like none of it would ever effect you. Did I spell all of this correctly? I am from the bay area and enjoy living here with all the stupid teachers and spelling bee veterans. Hugs and Kisses!

sandytoes wrote on Nov 23, 2009 5:15 PM:

A Cherokee Prayer, Oh Great spirit, grant that I may never find fault with my neighbor until I have walked the trail of life in his moccasins.
Be careful, until you have walked beside a teacher, especially an elementary teacher, or even a teacher/coach, you have no idea how many hours they give a week, and how much of their lives the give.
Teachers are amazing, and ours are some of the lowest paid in the nation.
Headlines just last week shared how our North Bend Elementary School received an "Outstanding" performance on the State Report Card.
Teachers,
keep up the amazing dedication that I have witnessed numerous times. There are very few that could fill your moccasins and do it well!
God bless you!

Eastsider wrote on Nov 23, 2009 9:43 AM:

My eldest, a MHS grad, is getting an MA in Education. I asked him if he was interested in teaching here. He laughed at that, saying that he will be taking a job where education and educators are valued.(Montana, actually.)

sig wrote on Nov 22, 2009 11:29 PM:

Teachers have real power in that they are some of the most networked people in our area. It's rumored that NB teachers are organizing a recall of some of their board members and a petition of no confidence directed towards their superintendent.

dan milburn wrote on Nov 22, 2009 7:49 PM:

This all so sad because everybody involved is trying really hard to make things work with what they have got, not with what they don't have. These teachers are giving our children the benefit of a healthy education and are literaly taken care of our loved ones a large percentage of the day. I propose we all pay an annual tuition fee per child to make up the difference in what money is available verses what money is not. The part of our taxes going to education is lower than than that on cigarettes or alchoholic beverages. I vote everybody pay more to school tax. Or.........tackle those lottery funds like we were promised. ANybody wanna make a campaign promise and run for public office?

IWanttoknow wrote on Nov 21, 2009 4:35 PM:

The 9/13 school districts teachers are good (in some cases great), subjects taught are antiquated but ok, according the State of Oregon's standards, school class hours are fair for students, teachers, as well as staff. So, where's the problem(s): Class size (remember one room schools K-8) to big! Rowdy students (remember the Principal's Paddle) 10% don't want to learn! School supplies (remember when student's parents bought everthing needed including food)limited, salaries low (remember single teachers) stop paying your union dues! So, where is the problem? Just my opinion, Bye!

runnermom wrote on Nov 21, 2009 2:51 PM:

Ever notice the posts criticizing teachers are rife with egregious spelling and punctuation errors? Clearly, education is of little value to these "writers."
Teachers do NOT get paid to do nothing during summers; the pay they receive is for work already done. Teachers are salaried to work for the school year, but their pay is allocated for a year-long period.
Teachers care deeply about kids; it's a shame the school board cares so little about its employees. It's also a shame the school board locked away several hundreds of thousands of dollars local tax payers paid to educate children THIS year.
A final comment on wages: teachers' salaries (as compared to other salaried professionals') are low. The benefits of insurance and retirement are paid to offset this. When those benefits are cut, it is a loss in income. The alleged "fat" PERS accounts of teachers are usually targeted in the media. Funny how the police and fire fighters' accounts are not also questioned.

tsunami wrote on Nov 21, 2009 1:34 PM:

with all this great support for teachers it's no wonder they are eager to tackle the job and excel.

sarcasm for most of you that wouldnt recognize it.

Pancho Via wrote on Nov 21, 2009 11:46 AM:

Some of the details are starting to come out.

Maybe the teachers should all retake 5th grade math. Declining revenues & increasing pay is not sustainable.

For educated people you sure are not very bright.

I am loosing my compassion for the teachers when I hear that they have to pay $300 a month for health insurance.

I am paying $1,031.51 a month for a healthy family with no restrictions & no dental.

Cry me a river!

Joe12pack wrote on Nov 21, 2009 9:55 AM:

Most everyone has had there insurance cost go up. My company also froze wages this year, cut retirement, etc. The economy is not great be happy that you’re working and have the summer off paid

Citizen wrote on Nov 21, 2009 8:51 AM:

Further more!!! They are supposed to be teaching out kids well. I continually here that they are failing to get our. kids to where they need to be. They are unprepared for college and so forth.

When they fail it should reflect in their wages. When they succeed then give them raises and better insurance. Give them more time off.

When the young men and women can graduate, go to college and return to their communities, get family wage jobs, buy homes and pay property tax then there will be money there to give raises and such. Cause and Effect! 2 minus 1 does not equal 3.

Citizen wrote on Nov 21, 2009 8:44 AM:

Predictable. Perhaps more of the money meant to get people jobs they don't have could be spent increasing the salaries of people who can't educate our kids enough to graduate with what they need to get more than a minimum wage job at McDondald's.

Everyone wants to make more money, but stop making public education unaffordable. It's going to happen just like it did for the lumber industry. The unions are going to force public education out. Charter schools and home teaching will be the new standard.

kmjohnson7 wrote on Nov 20, 2009 7:14 PM:

Keep up the good work teachers! You deserve a contract even though the people who comment on this website are ignorant and naive. Many people in this area seem to not realize how much time and energy it takes a be a good teacher. The local teachers are so important as these students need a good education. These students need to have the opportunity to go to college or further their education as s/he pleases. Don't fret from negative comments posted online. It's a way to say something dumb and not have to stand up and defend yourself. The teachers have my backing 110%! Don't get discouraged. I'm not afraid of hiding my identity. K. Johnson

tsunami wrote on Nov 20, 2009 4:29 PM:

teachers sure are not very popular in the bay area. kinda explains a lot.

hiluix wrote on Nov 20, 2009 4:03 PM:

These teachers should be glad they even have jobs , these teachers whining and protesting is like some rich guy driving his Duesenberg through the soup line during the great depression in the 30's and complaining about the delay getting to the Ritz Carlton .

Worker Bee wrote on Nov 20, 2009 3:59 PM:

Brutal Truth,

Neither side could make the other look like the bad guy if they kept it quiet.

Sorry teachers, if the school board is offering what amounts to a wage freeze, and a freeze in your out of pocket for benefits, you should jump on it. Everyone else has been taking actual cuts. You'll get no sympathy here.

I also have an idea to help so the students don't have to lose school days. Take all of your in service days, where you are doing training or whatever, and do those on your own time. Use those in service days to teach the students.

Retired wrote on Nov 20, 2009 3:56 PM:

don't they look like professionals with their signs? Holy Cow folks-what they are paying for insurance is NOTHING compared to the rest of the world-if there is insurance to be had. This whole thing makes the teachers look like selfish little kids..."me and mine first"....

everyman wrote on Nov 20, 2009 3:20 PM:

Interesting...the NEA mafia is actually starting to act like it.

No wonder the private schools and homeschooling movement have such a large following around here.

BTW - I love those self-serving little posters all around town, "North Bend School Distict has money...AND WE WANTS IT...MY PRESCIOUSSSSSSSS".

carefree highway wrote on Nov 20, 2009 2:36 PM:

coquillian pussycat.Ohh you are so good

Teachers have it good. One of the
normal recession proof jobs as history
has shown. Glad to be receiving my military pension and vunderbar medical
bennies for me and the family.

The Brutal Truth wrote on Nov 20, 2009 2:30 PM:

Can't they just negotiate their contract quietly & privately without all the hoopla? This really isn't doing them any favors as far as the public's opinion goes.

ronnie montrose wrote on Nov 20, 2009 2:08 PM:

To the TEACHERS (i.e. union), if you do not like the compensation package why don’t you just quit? It’s about time this country begins to really look at school choice. But the biggest obstacle for school choice to become a reality is the TEACHER’S UNION.

B wrote on Nov 20, 2009 1:31 PM:

They are paying only $300.00 a month combined for insurance. Wow, wish I had it that good. I pay $439.00 a month for just me...that's with a thousand dollar deductable. Eight years ago I was paying $189.00 a month with a five hundred deductable. Oh and I don't have any of the other benefits either! Before complaining to loud they should check to see how much the rest of us make and have to pay out! No sympathy here.

Soothsayer wrote on Nov 20, 2009 1:28 PM:

Steve - check your watch -- if you had kids in school you would know that the teachers are finished at 3:10 PM... school was out already...

THE bigger issue is that there just isn't any money to pay for the things the teachers are asking for...there also really isn't anything to negotiate because the District's aren't going to get any additional money - in fact they probably will be cut again in January. Move away if you want your kids to receive a quality education - its not going to happen here.

coquillian wrote on Nov 20, 2009 1:14 PM:

BUCK UP!! Cuts are everywhere. When you don't act sensible, you will lose more of your colleagues. Sad fact is when that happens the newer employees get cut. Then when you go to hire, someone looks at that and says, "Boy, I don't want to go there!" Stop the greed, that is plain pure and simple what it is. Be thankful you have a job with insurance. Remember, it was YOUR OEA that backed the big insurance deal that was "definitely" going to save money. Hasn't saved a dime.

bigblockblzr wrote on Nov 20, 2009 12:09 PM:

with the way the economy is the teachers should just be thankfull that they still have jobs

Just An Observer wrote on Nov 20, 2009 11:36 AM:

Slicing the ham of public funds ever thinner is how it has gone for the local school districts for a very long time. Capital expenditures got cut to pass budgets in District 9 and now it will cost $120 MILLION to completely rebuild the physical plant. Declining enrollment has meant cuts in state funding for our area districts and we see overcrowded classrooms and fewer offerings. Cut the teachers' days and pay back along with some job losses and guess what, eventually we will wind up with fewer of the truly dedicated teachers who are on the front line of education as some retire, some leave the area and fewer young people pursue the career.



Then as the students come out of school with an ever-lower education, make less money and pay less taxes, we wind up with even more cuts.


So when do we stop the bleeding?

Steve wrote on Nov 20, 2009 11:27 AM:

Why weren’t they in school teaching instead of banging drums and acting like children?


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