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Kay wrote on Dec 17, 2009 5:23 PM:
Gary?
You are being facetious (sp) aren't you? Aren't you?
Never mind.
You are being facetious (sp) aren't you? Aren't you?
Never mind.
Kay wrote on Dec 17, 2009 5:20 PM:
To The Wife: You were almost right, didn't Sara Palin get da hands on from a headhunter in her church? I'm certain I saw that. I know it to be a fact, and he drove out demons too.
sigh.....just not enuff.
sigh.....just not enuff.
lived9lives wrote on Dec 6, 2009 9:12 AM:
To Offensive: Covina, California, December 2008: Jeffry Pardo dressed in a Santa Claus suit opens fire at a family Christmas party at his ex-wife's home and then sets fire to the house. Nine people are killed in the home. He later kills himself.
Sorry you will have to do your own research on the rest.
Sorry you will have to do your own research on the rest.
m00npenny wrote on Dec 5, 2009 4:03 PM:
To Offensive:
Okay, I stand corrected. Your version sounds so much better.
Okay, I stand corrected. Your version sounds so much better.
Gary wrote on Dec 2, 2009 9:21 AM:
William, great letter you hit the nail on the head. It brought out many ignorant replies from those that have no clue. Christianity is not a Religion as many think, Religion defines false beliefs and there are many religions. For example the muslims worship a god taken from the temple of 200 pagan gods and is a falsehood. How many dupes that blew themselves up are up there somewhere yelling "we were lied to." There is only one way to the Father and that is through the Son and that is a fact no one can dispute.
MadHatter wrote on Nov 26, 2009 8:09 PM:
@Offensive
You missed everything by not reading up. When you are up to date, respond and I will pick this back up.
You missed everything by not reading up. When you are up to date, respond and I will pick this back up.
megapotamus wrote on Nov 25, 2009 4:46 PM:
The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races. In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the President.
Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill(which is a command to all Muslims) non believers (infidels) in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?
Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill(which is a command to all Muslims) non believers (infidels) in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?
offensive wrote on Nov 24, 2009 8:36 PM:
lived9lives wrote on Nov 23, 2009 5:59 PM: "If I arrived in the US knowing nothing about the violence of certain religions I might google "mass murders". What I would find is predominately CHRISTIAN, white male perpetrators."
I am curious. On what would you base that? It is easy to go around making assertions like this lived9lives and to even say, See! Google, google! But, it causes me to think that you have not hung around with many Christians. Maybe you just googled about Christians. Huh? I suggest you go to church and meet a few, but be prepared, most are pretty flawed. But when you run into one, you will know them by their love.
You also asked, "Anyone remember when Santa Claus blew away his family??" ... aaand, no.
I am curious. On what would you base that? It is easy to go around making assertions like this lived9lives and to even say, See! Google, google! But, it causes me to think that you have not hung around with many Christians. Maybe you just googled about Christians. Huh? I suggest you go to church and meet a few, but be prepared, most are pretty flawed. But when you run into one, you will know them by their love.
You also asked, "Anyone remember when Santa Claus blew away his family??" ... aaand, no.
offensive wrote on Nov 24, 2009 8:03 PM:
mountaintophop wrote on Nov 24, 2009 9:53 AM: why do we allow little boy fondling, hypocrite Catholics, to be able to stick around?? answer me that? See how that hypocrite religion stuff cuts both ways??
Everyone sins. Some have greater sin, some lesser. Some use religion to sin. Some sin without it. Some sin in spite of their religion. That is why Jesus died. To pay for sin. Should we condemn every priest because some priests sinned?
But the original premise of the letter did not indict individual Muslims; it did however indict the teachings of Islam.
Qur'an teaches that all must come under sharia law. It teaches that the Muslim can lie to achieve Allah's goals and it teaches that 'the people of the book' may become dhimmi. It offers that to no one else; not atheists, Hindus nor Zoroastrians. Their choices are finally, conversion to Islam or death.
Everyone sins. Some have greater sin, some lesser. Some use religion to sin. Some sin without it. Some sin in spite of their religion. That is why Jesus died. To pay for sin. Should we condemn every priest because some priests sinned?
But the original premise of the letter did not indict individual Muslims; it did however indict the teachings of Islam.
Qur'an teaches that all must come under sharia law. It teaches that the Muslim can lie to achieve Allah's goals and it teaches that 'the people of the book' may become dhimmi. It offers that to no one else; not atheists, Hindus nor Zoroastrians. Their choices are finally, conversion to Islam or death.
offensive wrote on Nov 24, 2009 7:49 PM:
dannygs wrote on Nov 24, 2009 7:39 AM:
I guess "Offensive" is so right-on that 'The World' has turned over all comments to him/her/it! nice!
No ... The World puts up the posts as they come in... I just write several at once.
I guess "Offensive" is so right-on that 'The World' has turned over all comments to him/her/it! nice!
No ... The World puts up the posts as they come in... I just write several at once.
offensive wrote on Nov 24, 2009 7:46 PM:
Justice for All, I have demonized no one. I have presented Islamic doctrine from Islamic sources.
I have not suggested that there are none in the ranks who call themselves Christians who have not dishonored Jesus and His teaching.
I am declaring that Islam very clearly teaches that all of the world must be brought under sharia law and that the only ones guaranteed dimmi status are 'people of the book'. Qur'an and Hadith clearly teach that all others who will not convert, must die. Ask an immam.
Folks, this information is out there. It is preached on YouTube by Islamics! They are not hiding it! But I would encourage you to read Qur'an and Hadith also.
I have not suggested that there are none in the ranks who call themselves Christians who have not dishonored Jesus and His teaching.
I am declaring that Islam very clearly teaches that all of the world must be brought under sharia law and that the only ones guaranteed dimmi status are 'people of the book'. Qur'an and Hadith clearly teach that all others who will not convert, must die. Ask an immam.
Folks, this information is out there. It is preached on YouTube by Islamics! They are not hiding it! But I would encourage you to read Qur'an and Hadith also.
offensive wrote on Nov 24, 2009 7:31 PM:
MADHATTER There has been suggestion that there were more women available than our single female progenitor. Since neither of us was there, that is a fruitless debate. The fact remains; the mitochondria do not lie. We are all the descendant of one single female parent.
So would you say you are fully versed as to the determination of what makes a book canonical or not?
I do find it interesting that Jesus never mentioned Zoroaster.
What library do you refer to as being destroyed by the Christians?
Just as an aside the moniker Madhatter suites you.
So would you say you are fully versed as to the determination of what makes a book canonical or not?
I do find it interesting that Jesus never mentioned Zoroaster.
What library do you refer to as being destroyed by the Christians?
Just as an aside the moniker Madhatter suites you.
offensive wrote on Nov 24, 2009 6:44 PM:
Kay please examine the facts concerning humanitarian aid given by private citizens. http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/are-americans-cheap-or-charitable/blog-171743/
It is easy to cast accusations but the facts speak more loudly. Americans come to the aid of others in need in greater numbers and with greater generosity than any other people in the world.
Concerning your assertion about weapons? That is debatable. Currently the UK is the largest exporter and per capita Sweden came in second . Also how is it that the AK 47 is so prominent on the worlds present day battlefields and the m-16 so conspicuously absent.
Additionally Kay, you say things like this : "I was wrong on that one, until the White House was occupied by da black man, there was no criticism." What does that mean? What is the context? And what does melanin have to do with anything?
It is easy to cast accusations but the facts speak more loudly. Americans come to the aid of others in need in greater numbers and with greater generosity than any other people in the world.
Concerning your assertion about weapons? That is debatable. Currently the UK is the largest exporter and per capita Sweden came in second . Also how is it that the AK 47 is so prominent on the worlds present day battlefields and the m-16 so conspicuously absent.
Additionally Kay, you say things like this : "I was wrong on that one, until the White House was occupied by da black man, there was no criticism." What does that mean? What is the context? And what does melanin have to do with anything?
1313 wrote on Nov 24, 2009 4:18 PM:
Why are you all getting so down on Christians, instead of the muslims who are killing us at this day and time????
Are you again blinded by the political correctness of our day ???
I can't believe some of these comments.
Are you again blinded by the political correctness of our day ???
I can't believe some of these comments.
Dadochipper wrote on Nov 24, 2009 3:26 PM:
NoGod...did I mention Fort Hood? Trust me ..there is a lot more than Fort Hood going on over there and whether you want to believe it or not, the radical islamists are the BAD guys..they just dont get much bad press over there. Muslims who do not vehemently stand up against the radicals are just as guilty by enabling the action. Lack of action is a problem for Muslims in addressing this problem seriously. If muslims are ticked off that someone says that, maybe they should turn their anger to the miscreants in their own fold first.
Kay wrote on Nov 24, 2009 2:18 PM:
Offensive? Add up how much milk we "give" to other countries versus how many weapons we "give" to the rulers of said country to further our business interests.
Our foreign aid is mostly weapons, like it or not, that's the truth.
The US is the largest exporter of weapons IN THE WORLD.
The rest of the world knows this, Faux Noise will never tell the truth about what the US is really doing.
I was wrong on that one, until the White House was occupied by da black man, there was no criticism.
Our foreign aid is mostly weapons, like it or not, that's the truth.
The US is the largest exporter of weapons IN THE WORLD.
The rest of the world knows this, Faux Noise will never tell the truth about what the US is really doing.
I was wrong on that one, until the White House was occupied by da black man, there was no criticism.
MadHatter wrote on Nov 24, 2009 1:41 PM:
@Offensive.
You are confusing the 1st female genome with 1 female parent of the human race. Nat. Geo. reported it was at minimum 8 breeding females that gave birth to the human race.
Secondly, I am referring to the Council of Trent and how it excluded several books from the bible. For examples, the Gospel of Jesus, and another example would be the story of Lilith, the first creation god made of humans. Lilith was before Adam & Eve and is part of the Talmud. Then, more to the point, Muslim in all its forms, Christianity in all its forms, and Judaism, again, in all its forms all stem from the religion Zoroastrianism.
If you need more help, I suggest reading at your local library, and failing the libraries here, I suggest other ones as well... sadly, the best library in the world was destroyed by Christians.
You are confusing the 1st female genome with 1 female parent of the human race. Nat. Geo. reported it was at minimum 8 breeding females that gave birth to the human race.
Secondly, I am referring to the Council of Trent and how it excluded several books from the bible. For examples, the Gospel of Jesus, and another example would be the story of Lilith, the first creation god made of humans. Lilith was before Adam & Eve and is part of the Talmud. Then, more to the point, Muslim in all its forms, Christianity in all its forms, and Judaism, again, in all its forms all stem from the religion Zoroastrianism.
If you need more help, I suggest reading at your local library, and failing the libraries here, I suggest other ones as well... sadly, the best library in the world was destroyed by Christians.
viva la 2010 wrote on Nov 24, 2009 1:22 PM:
I can tell you the difference between Islam/Muslim and Christianity:
If you say that you are a Christian, there is nothing that you HAVE to do to proove it.
If you say that you are Muslim and Islamic follower then your whole life embodies that fact, ie: the way you dress, the way you pray and how many times a day and what you eat.
Why do y'all think so many PRISONERS are converted to Islam?
They get out of work, especially down south where the temperatures are so hot!
If you say that you are a Christian, there is nothing that you HAVE to do to proove it.
If you say that you are Muslim and Islamic follower then your whole life embodies that fact, ie: the way you dress, the way you pray and how many times a day and what you eat.
Why do y'all think so many PRISONERS are converted to Islam?
They get out of work, especially down south where the temperatures are so hot!
Justice for All wrote on Nov 24, 2009 11:42 AM:
This really is a stupid argument. People like "Offensive" are perfectly happy demonizing each and every Muslim alive today for the actions of Muslims throughout history. But somehow they can't understand that Christianity has the same problems.
Those who live in glass houses...
Those who live in glass houses...
mountaintophop wrote on Nov 24, 2009 9:53 AM:
why do we allow little boy fondling, hypocrite Catholics, to be able to stick around?? answer me that? See how that hypocrite religion stuff cuts both ways??
dannygs wrote on Nov 24, 2009 7:39 AM:
I guess "Offensive" is so right-on that 'The World' has turned over all comments to him/her/it! nice!
offensive wrote on Nov 23, 2009 8:59 PM:
POLOELE you might want to rethink this, "even though I hate communism, I'll have to go with Karl Marx on this one: "Religion is Opium for the masses"
If that were true and Marx actually believed it, why do you suppose communism is atheistic? Communism is about control and a drugged populace is one that can be controlled. Right?
I will grant to you that what you believe will determine whether you become free or not. But we all believe something even if we have not investigated what we believe.
Islam never allows freedom. It is a collective.
If that were true and Marx actually believed it, why do you suppose communism is atheistic? Communism is about control and a drugged populace is one that can be controlled. Right?
I will grant to you that what you believe will determine whether you become free or not. But we all believe something even if we have not investigated what we believe.
Islam never allows freedom. It is a collective.
offensive wrote on Nov 23, 2009 8:40 PM:
Keep the facts straight MOONPENNY "He had a 8 year old wife but did the "responsible(?)" thing and didn't touch her until she was 10? Happy Birthday baby, come to daddy!"
He married Aisha when she was 6 and the consummation took place when she was 9. Muhammad was somewhere in his mid 50's.
He married Aisha when she was 6 and the consummation took place when she was 9. Muhammad was somewhere in his mid 50's.
offensive wrote on Nov 23, 2009 8:28 PM:
Just saying you said "If it was really true that "the Qur'an is prescriptive", as you say, with their numbers, the rest of the world would've been toast long ago." I would encourage you to look at the history of the conquest of Islam. Examine the dates and the battles mentioned in the original letter. There were three major battles that stopped the advance of Islam. The third jihad is upon us. http://thethirdjihad.com/about.html And it is prescriptive. Ask an immam.
offensive wrote on Nov 23, 2009 8:17 PM:
Kay, you seem to believe that Americans are the scourge of the earth. Did you know that our government gives more in foreign aid than any other nation in the world. But wait, and here is the really sweet part, that aside, do you know that Americans, just like me and you, give over and above what our government gives in food, clothing, schools, wells and other necessities of life, not proselytizing mind you, but just life's needs ... by 4 times! Pretty amazing, isn't it?
offensive wrote on Nov 23, 2009 8:06 PM:
William Tucker III 21 people died during the Salem trials until cooler heads prevailed and those in charge realized the error of believing 13 and 14 year old girls whose fertile imagination had run away with them. It was very lamentable. However almost all who were burned at the stake during the dark ages, if you will check history ... were in fact, true believing Christians. Remember living in a garage no more makes you an Edsel than going to church will make you a Christian.
offensive wrote on Nov 23, 2009 7:49 PM:
MADHATTER, where did you get a silly notion like this: "I regret to inform you that the bible is horridly mistranslated and has been mistranslated for a very long time." Can you read the original languages? Do you understand etymology? Have you examined the Qumron documents. If you can find the time, I would enjoy sitting down with you to discuss same... or are you satisfied with what you believe you know?
1313 wrote on Nov 23, 2009 6:10 PM:
Mr. Tucker, I am not talking about the past, I am talking about Right Now !
lived9lives wrote on Nov 23, 2009 5:59 PM:
If I arrived in the US knowing nothing about the violence of certain religions I might google "mass murders". What I would find is predominately CHRISTIAN, white male perpetrators. Anyone remember when Santa Claus blew away his family?
Kay wrote on Nov 23, 2009 3:24 PM:
Nascar girl? Turn off your television, go to the library and educate yourself about the real world.
We ain't the hero you want to think we are. We've been a wonderful nation, and we've also done some absolutely horrific things to others.
Oh and one more thing sweetie, our troops aren't fighting for free speech, they're fighting for corporate interests in the pipelines through Iraq and through Afghan. to the Black Sea Reserves.
Truth hurts, but it is the truth at least.
We ain't the hero you want to think we are. We've been a wonderful nation, and we've also done some absolutely horrific things to others.
Oh and one more thing sweetie, our troops aren't fighting for free speech, they're fighting for corporate interests in the pipelines through Iraq and through Afghan. to the Black Sea Reserves.
Truth hurts, but it is the truth at least.
NoGod wrote on Nov 23, 2009 12:52 PM:
Oops I mean *Knight* no coffee I blame the cat on the keyboard.
NoGod wrote on Nov 23, 2009 12:51 PM:
Dado why would a news organization have a news article on the front page about Fort Hood weeks after the attack? Al Jazeera had quite a large block the entire week dedicated to Fort Hoood, and for the last time Al Jazeera is not a Muslim network by any means they just report on more worldly events unlike any American station aside from Amy Goodman from Democracy Now!. Just because your pea brain sees an Arabic word and automatically goes "terrorist!! lynch him" that just really isn't my fault.
And for the last time Al Jazeera has a frickin' NIGHT for a journalist.. Yes Sir Robert Frost, do you really really think he's promoting Islamic Jihad?
And for the last time Al Jazeera has a frickin' NIGHT for a journalist.. Yes Sir Robert Frost, do you really really think he's promoting Islamic Jihad?
MadHatter wrote on Nov 23, 2009 12:11 PM:
Nascargirl8899,
I regret to inform you that the bible is horridly mistranslated and has been mistranslated for a very long time. I am glad you can get something good out of it, but I can't stand the mistranslations and missing chapters.
I regret to inform you that the bible is horridly mistranslated and has been mistranslated for a very long time. I am glad you can get something good out of it, but I can't stand the mistranslations and missing chapters.
William Tucker III wrote on Nov 23, 2009 9:35 AM:
To 1313,
You need to study history a little bit my friend. All religions have skeletons in the closet even Christianity... Have you ever heard of the Salem witch trials, or how about the dark ages? People were burned at the stake in the name of Christianity.
You need to study history a little bit my friend. All religions have skeletons in the closet even Christianity... Have you ever heard of the Salem witch trials, or how about the dark ages? People were burned at the stake in the name of Christianity.
1313 wrote on Nov 23, 2009 9:24 AM:
WHATEVER ! ! ! !
How many extreamist Christians do you see cutting off heads and doing the kind of things the terriorists are doing?
I am sick of do good, rediculous politically correct people ruining our country, which they are doing. Get real people !!!
We are so affraid to racially profile anyone that we are inviting one disaster after another.
If you don't like my spelling or grammer, don't bother to tell me, OK ?
How many extreamist Christians do you see cutting off heads and doing the kind of things the terriorists are doing?
I am sick of do good, rediculous politically correct people ruining our country, which they are doing. Get real people !!!
We are so affraid to racially profile anyone that we are inviting one disaster after another.
If you don't like my spelling or grammer, don't bother to tell me, OK ?
just saying wrote on Nov 23, 2009 8:44 AM:
NASCARGRL8899 -
More specifically, I picked out portions of the bible to make the point that people, like Mr. Tomlinson, can pick out portions of the Qur'an and make any point they wish to, also.
I'm surprised you didn't understand that.
More specifically, I picked out portions of the bible to make the point that people, like Mr. Tomlinson, can pick out portions of the Qur'an and make any point they wish to, also.
I'm surprised you didn't understand that.
dannygs wrote on Nov 23, 2009 8:28 AM:
nascargirl:
I've tried to read the bible several times. it was absolutely painful. it contradicts itself and I just can't get through the justifications for murder, rape and calling for the killing of others. and bogus stories like Noah and his ark and God torturing and punishing his/her people. and seas parting, etc. To me its on the level of a Harry Potter book. I don't read those either, find the writing too elementary. I do enjoy the hot homosexual affairs in the Bible, however..... Jonathan and David's love has seen me through several lonely nights
I've tried to read the bible several times. it was absolutely painful. it contradicts itself and I just can't get through the justifications for murder, rape and calling for the killing of others. and bogus stories like Noah and his ark and God torturing and punishing his/her people. and seas parting, etc. To me its on the level of a Harry Potter book. I don't read those either, find the writing too elementary. I do enjoy the hot homosexual affairs in the Bible, however..... Jonathan and David's love has seen me through several lonely nights
nascargrl8899 wrote on Nov 22, 2009 8:16 PM:
Mr. Tomlinson, thank you for standing up and seeing the truth. My dad served in Iraq and had read the koran before he left. To say that our views are racist is a sheer farce! To the rest of you: Our soldiers are fighting for your right to 'free speech'. Think about that!
nascargrl8899 wrote on Nov 22, 2009 8:13 PM:
To 'Just Saying': It is obvious to me that you are just picking out portions of the Bible to fit your point of view. If you were to read ALL of the Bible, you would find your questions answered clearly.
MadHatter wrote on Nov 22, 2009 1:25 PM:
FoX news isn't biased, they make up the news and are allowed to according to the Florida Supreme Court.
http://www.medicine.org/video/fox-news-whistleblowers
http://www.medicine.org/video/fox-news-whistleblowers
just saying wrote on Nov 22, 2009 8:54 AM:
OFFENSIVE,
If it was really true that "the Qur'an is prescriptive", as you say, with their numbers, the rest of the world would've been toast long ago.
The "words" of the Muslim religion, like those of Christianity or any other religion, can be (and are) used to rationalize terrorism, genocide, rape, murder, or any other number of bad things.
Other words within the teachings of any religion can be used for peace, and too often aren't.
There is no such thing as prescriptive teachings... only the free will of individuals who don't understand the evils, or accept the good, that lies within the teachings of any religion and understand the difference.
Just Saying...
If it was really true that "the Qur'an is prescriptive", as you say, with their numbers, the rest of the world would've been toast long ago.
The "words" of the Muslim religion, like those of Christianity or any other religion, can be (and are) used to rationalize terrorism, genocide, rape, murder, or any other number of bad things.
Other words within the teachings of any religion can be used for peace, and too often aren't.
There is no such thing as prescriptive teachings... only the free will of individuals who don't understand the evils, or accept the good, that lies within the teachings of any religion and understand the difference.
Just Saying...
pril wrote on Nov 21, 2009 8:30 PM:
Fox has bias? Whoda thunk it. MSN biased? Yeah I never would have guessed that. Listen, you guys, everybody and every news channel and every politician has a bias. Al Jazeera is biased. CNN is biased. You, me and Joe Schmo from down the road are all biased in some way or another. Whether you recognize it is the important thing. You can probably see everyone else's bias much more clearly than your own, but that doesn't mean you don't have any. Show me someone with no bias and I'll show you a dead guy.
offensive wrote on Nov 21, 2009 6:22 PM:
I find it interesting; the insistence that all ideologies are equal. Gravity is, the laws that rule the universe work, etc. By extension that implies there is empirical truth. Therefore why must ALL ideologies be the same? So that you can believe (or not believe) whatever you want and still be okay?
offensive wrote on Nov 21, 2009 5:55 PM:
As a heads up to all of you atheists who are posting in defense of Islam; in all I have discovered in my study of Islam, only the "people of the Book" (Christian and Jews) are allowed to live as dhimmis and pay the Jizya. Atheist have no right to life. http://www.iheu.org/node/1540
offensive wrote on Nov 21, 2009 5:39 PM:
JUST SAYING it is easy to pull verses out of context. Your quote from Luke was a parable. Parables teach lessons. They do not form doctrine. Your Old Testament quotes are descriptive, not prescriptive. Hermeneutics is a must when reading all "holy books" and historical documents (anything that purports to be 'truth'). If you are open to it, I would be pleased to sit down with you and explain historical context of biblical verses versus prescriptive doctrine found in Qur'an and hadith.
offensive wrote on Nov 21, 2009 5:22 PM:
DADOCHIPPER, you suggest that "radical Islamist" have hijacked Islam and given it a black eye and have stated essentially that if you were Muslim, "you would step up and say WHOA." Do you find it curious that of the 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, those who have stood up against the "radical Islamist" can be counted on both hands? http://thethirdjihad.com/about.html
offensive wrote on Nov 21, 2009 5:20 PM:
Someone suggested I was a racist. Interesting... I do not recall mentioning race and in point of fact the genome project has proven that there is only one race, the human race. The project has determined that we have all descended from one male and one female. Science.
offensive wrote on Nov 21, 2009 5:13 PM:
"Brutal truth," the Qur'an is prescriptive. It presents to the Muslim what he must do. The Bible is many pronged in its presentation but can nowhere be construed to instruct Christians or Jews to execute those who will not convert. The brutal truth is, Qur'an and Hadith clearly instruct that those who will not submit or convert must die. Compare it to the teachings of Jesus, “And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet”
offensive wrote on Nov 21, 2009 5:06 PM:
Ideologies drive people. If I were born Muslim or if I chose to follow Islam, MARKM is precisely right when he says, "Mr. Tomlinson, I would submit that if you were born Muslim, you would want to kill Christians." MARKM understands. Qur'an is prescriptive. Mohammad is the exemplar. A Muslim man must emulate him. Who he is, is well described within Qur'an and Hadith. For a Muslim to not follow precisely what MARKM suggests is to be an apostate on some level.
m00npenny wrote on Nov 21, 2009 3:51 PM:
Mindtwisted: Sorry you missed the point. Guess it sailed over your head instead of smacking you in the nose as intended. "In pain"? As in, you have to be that stupid? Does it hurt? Get it?
Dont make me whip out crayons now!
Catholism as Islam, condone it on paper, but do nothing to stop it. Why do you think they both wear robes?
I actually opened a Quaran recently and read some chapters. Then read some expert analysis of Mohammed and his life as noted in the Quaran. He had a 8 year old wife but did the "responsible(?)" thing and didnt touch her until she was 10? Happy Birthday baby, come to daddy!
Freaks. Everyone of them.
Dont make me whip out crayons now!
Catholism as Islam, condone it on paper, but do nothing to stop it. Why do you think they both wear robes?
I actually opened a Quaran recently and read some chapters. Then read some expert analysis of Mohammed and his life as noted in the Quaran. He had a 8 year old wife but did the "responsible(?)" thing and didnt touch her until she was 10? Happy Birthday baby, come to daddy!
Freaks. Everyone of them.
dadochipper wrote on Nov 21, 2009 3:03 PM:
NoGod...you dont know a thing about me. Bush was not my God by any stretch of the imagination. YOu prove yourself to be a typical liberal - condescending to the point of absurdity. All you have to do is take one look at the Al Jazeera english site ...not ONE headline regarding militant Islam. Not ONE headline about how these idiots give Islam a black eye. Nothing about how those countries are dealing with that problem. Yup. Fair and balanced.
Frankly, it is not hard to imagine anything boggling your limited mentality. First sign of disagreement and off to the name calling races you go! PREDICTABLE to the end....LOL
Frankly, it is not hard to imagine anything boggling your limited mentality. First sign of disagreement and off to the name calling races you go! PREDICTABLE to the end....LOL
dadochipper wrote on Nov 21, 2009 2:56 PM:
NoGod....sure pal....keep telling yourself that....jeez. Al Jazeera...LOL...
poloele wrote on Nov 21, 2009 1:57 PM:
even though I hate communism, I'll have to go with Karl Marx on this one: "Religion is Opium for the masses"
reedsport wrote on Nov 21, 2009 1:29 PM:
Amadeus wrote on Nov 18, 2009 12:58 PM:
can anyone tell him to direct the cars to the other side of the street where I am everyday, waving my arms trying to attract customers?
Don't worry Amadeus, we already know where you work!
can anyone tell him to direct the cars to the other side of the street where I am everyday, waving my arms trying to attract customers?
Don't worry Amadeus, we already know where you work!
Shallow Al wrote on Nov 21, 2009 1:28 PM:
Mind Twisted:
Thank you for the comment to Tanner, they didn't print mine.
Tanner:
You mean THAT'S your REAL name?
Damn! Somebody musta saw you comin!
Thank you for the comment to Tanner, they didn't print mine.
Tanner:
You mean THAT'S your REAL name?
Damn! Somebody musta saw you comin!
MindTwisted wrote on Nov 21, 2009 10:35 AM:
QUOTE Tanner Hamlett:
"I see plenty of name-calling and bashing going on here, yet I do not see anyone signing their actual names. There seems to be a direct relationship between liberal, dogmatic cliche's, and the cowardice of anonymity. Sign your names, losers."
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People don't use their real names on the Internet because they do not want their identity stolen. Only a fool without any understanding of technology would use their real name online... like you for example.
"I see plenty of name-calling and bashing going on here, yet I do not see anyone signing their actual names. There seems to be a direct relationship between liberal, dogmatic cliche's, and the cowardice of anonymity. Sign your names, losers."
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People don't use their real names on the Internet because they do not want their identity stolen. Only a fool without any understanding of technology would use their real name online... like you for example.
Kay wrote on Nov 21, 2009 8:37 AM:
Moonpenny? I suppose it's much more Christian to drop bombs and inicinerate said innocent children from high tek drone airplanes? YOU pay for it you know.
Oh, I might remind you, IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY.
BY THE US.
Oh, I might remind you, IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY.
BY THE US.
Justice for All wrote on Nov 20, 2009 5:08 PM:
Tanner, why are so you focused on getting the names of those "liberal" posters?
What would you do with such information? Are you threatening violence against those whom you disagree with?
And thanks for posting your name, because I was able to find a picture of you posing with an AK-47.
Again, for the record, my last name is Jablome, first name Heywood.
What would you do with such information? Are you threatening violence against those whom you disagree with?
And thanks for posting your name, because I was able to find a picture of you posing with an AK-47.
Again, for the record, my last name is Jablome, first name Heywood.
amadeus wrote on Nov 20, 2009 3:56 PM:
if i gave my real name and told y'all I was an atheist, you'd show up at my work or home with pitchforks and torches, you freaks.
NoGod wrote on Nov 20, 2009 3:55 PM:
Dadochipper:Go to livestation.com download the program and watch 10 minutes of Al Jazeera before you tell me they show any form of bias. Just because your god George W bombed their station during the invasion of Iraq doesn't mean they are a bad organization. I'd really like to know how and why you think they are such a biased organization. Really tell me now in broad detail? Is it because they preach about Islam?Oh wait they don't in fact they show more about the rising tide of Atheists than really any other religion..Maybe it's because they have Robert Frost the leading British journalist who has interviewed everyone from Nixon to Mandela to John McCain? You're trailer park mentality just boggles my mind.
NoGod wrote on Nov 20, 2009 3:50 PM:
DadoChipper:Apparently you honestly don't know what Al Jazeera Reports on. Al Jazeera is comprised of journalists who actually REPORT FROM:Kuala Lampur,Dubai,Pakistan,Afghanistan,America,UK,etc. They show both sides very fairly unlike Fox News or MSNBC (Maybe you should actually watch the program instead of basing your opinion off of the NAME of the station). Huffingtonpost is nothing more than Cheerleaders for the left wing just like Fox News is for the right. Once again you prove that you are ill informed.
dadochipper wrote on Nov 20, 2009 3:28 PM:
NOGOD....haha...you are quoting Aljazeera? HAHAHAHA...and you think FOX News is messed up..hahah..Aljazeera? HAHA...great source..completely unbiased ...oh jeez..still laughing...that is like a leftist using the Huntington Post as a source...no bias there either...LOL..
dannygs wrote on Nov 20, 2009 11:53 AM:
"If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her."
(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
Tanner Hamlett wrote on Nov 20, 2009 11:45 AM:
I see plenty of name-calling and bashing going on here, yet I do not see anyone signing their actual names.
There seems to be a direct relationship between liberal, dogmatic cliche's, and the cowardice of anonymity.
Sign your names, losers.
There seems to be a direct relationship between liberal, dogmatic cliche's, and the cowardice of anonymity.
Sign your names, losers.
MindTwisted wrote on Nov 20, 2009 9:37 AM:
QUOTE M00npenny:
"MindTwisted: Are you in pain?
They strap explosives to their own children s small bodies. Then stand a safe distance before disintegrating the child."
No, I'm not in pain, thank you so much for asking that brilliant question.
This is not a discussion about the tactics used by militants, it's about the tactics used by religious lunatics. Islam does not call for or tolerate violence against children, Catholicism does, however, openly allow priests to be pedophiles and rapists.
My point is that calling Islam a "terrorist" religion is less accurate than calling Catholics a pedophile religion. So if you feel that Islam is a terrorist religion, then you must also accept Catholicism as being a pedophile religion. Rape is one of the purest forms of terrorism, so I guess that makes Catholics terrorists too.
"MindTwisted: Are you in pain?
They strap explosives to their own children s small bodies. Then stand a safe distance before disintegrating the child."
No, I'm not in pain, thank you so much for asking that brilliant question.
This is not a discussion about the tactics used by militants, it's about the tactics used by religious lunatics. Islam does not call for or tolerate violence against children, Catholicism does, however, openly allow priests to be pedophiles and rapists.
My point is that calling Islam a "terrorist" religion is less accurate than calling Catholics a pedophile religion. So if you feel that Islam is a terrorist religion, then you must also accept Catholicism as being a pedophile religion. Rape is one of the purest forms of terrorism, so I guess that makes Catholics terrorists too.
barack obama wrote on Nov 20, 2009 8:51 AM:
This is a really stupid discussion. Instead of arguing over religion we should be discussing our role in overseas countries.
tag urit wrote on Nov 20, 2009 7:32 AM:
Without the forces of change in the Muslim world, the jihadists will continue to grow. With these strategic changes achieved or being implemented, the free world can seriously help backing a “revolution in the Arab and Muslim world,” in the same way it supported dissidents in the former Soviet Union, brought down the Apartheid regime and backed changes in Latin America. While maintaining basic stability in international relations, extending hands to democracy and human rights movements and figures across the Greater Middle East and beyond is the second most important key to provoke strategic change leading to defeating the threat.
m00npenny wrote on Nov 19, 2009 9:50 PM:
To Brutal Truth. You are correct in stating that all Christians are not violent Jihads. To fight this holy war now creeping up from our own soils, perhaps we need to be. When in Rome!
Mindtwisted: Are you in pain?
They strap explosives to their own children s small bodies. Then stand a safe distance before disintegrating the child.
Islam: The Religion of Peace (and a big stack of dead bodies)
The World: Love the new spell check!
Lets hope others know how to use it.
Mindtwisted: Are you in pain?
They strap explosives to their own children s small bodies. Then stand a safe distance before disintegrating the child.
Islam: The Religion of Peace (and a big stack of dead bodies)
The World: Love the new spell check!
Lets hope others know how to use it.
NoGod wrote on Nov 19, 2009 5:27 PM:
Here's an article from Qatar based Al Jazeera English on the UNITED STATES MILITARY proselytizing in Afghanistan/Iraq.
My favorite quote from one soldier "We Hunt People For Jesus"
Yeah, and Islam is the only F'd up religion.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/05/200953201315854832.html
My favorite quote from one soldier "We Hunt People For Jesus"
Yeah, and Islam is the only F'd up religion.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/05/200953201315854832.html
NoGod wrote on Nov 19, 2009 5:24 PM:
DadoChipper:You do know that you can go to NATO's website and see each day what the casualties are in each province in Afghanistan and Iraq.We invaded a country illegally and now over half a million people are dead due to that. Yes, we kill indiscriminately we drop Predator Drone missiles on Pushtan wedding parties quite often.Maybe if you would watch more world news (aljazeera.net/english) instead of MSM you might actually learn something. Religion should be abolished and it's followers should be locked away in mental institutions.
amadeus wrote on Nov 19, 2009 4:53 PM:
yes dadskipper, that's why they are killing themselves and shooting their fellow soldiers... it is a hard thing to live with when one is forced to do horrible things they wouldn't choose to do on their own
dadochipper wrote on Nov 19, 2009 1:59 PM:
really? our soldiers are doing that? Your neighbors, your sons, the boys and girls who recently were in school, your husbands, now in the army, have suddenly become vicious killers? REALLY?
Eastsider wrote on Nov 19, 2009 11:51 AM:
Religion is an archaic remnant of our barbaric past. Culture must die in order to have civilization. The truth will set you free, but first, it's going to hurt. My karma just ran over your dogma.
*Cliches 'R' Us*
*Cliches 'R' Us*
E.M. wrote on Nov 19, 2009 11:38 AM:
To Dadchipper, 60,000 Iraqui men, women and children, the vast majority of whom had nothing to do with Saddam and his regime, killed by the "Coalition of the willing." My guess is that if we wern't the world powers we are, our architects of the genocidal acts of aggression committed in Iraq would be on trial for war crimes. Might makes right!
amadeus wrote on Nov 19, 2009 9:19 AM:
no, the biggest cause of deaths to americans comes FRom america. Lack of health care kills hundreds of thousands. Murders kill as many. the soldiers and civilians killed in this ficticious war on terror are a drop in the bucket compared to what we do to our own, and other countries.
MindTwisted wrote on Nov 19, 2009 9:16 AM:
The real question is: why do intelligent people tolerate any form of religion at all?
Simpletons and their fictitious gods are no match for logic, understanding and well-reasoned thought. Religion is what lead us into the dark ages, science and discovery is what brought us back into the light.
Maybe some of the good Christians and Catholics here can answer a simple question for me: By American standards, why is subscribing to a "terrorist" religion considered bad, while subscribing to one that has openly institutionalized pedophilia is considered good? At least terrorist Muslim extremists don't rape alter boys and other innocent children. I see no difference between terrorism and rape, they are both designed to destroy lives and control people with fear.
Simpletons and their fictitious gods are no match for logic, understanding and well-reasoned thought. Religion is what lead us into the dark ages, science and discovery is what brought us back into the light.
Maybe some of the good Christians and Catholics here can answer a simple question for me: By American standards, why is subscribing to a "terrorist" religion considered bad, while subscribing to one that has openly institutionalized pedophilia is considered good? At least terrorist Muslim extremists don't rape alter boys and other innocent children. I see no difference between terrorism and rape, they are both designed to destroy lives and control people with fear.
dadochipper wrote on Nov 18, 2009 11:05 PM:
Nogod...for what it is worth, we are not wiping out hundreds of thousands of civilians...they are doing that to themselves. Regardless of why this whole mess came to be, our soldiers are not over there causing mass genocide as you seem to believe. THe biggest cause of death is the "militants" and their bombs and indiscriminate violence. In any case, it is all a tragedy.
Kay wrote on Nov 18, 2009 4:58 PM:
Wow, wonderful posts. Thank you all.
Shallow Al, thank you for serving.
Takes guts.
Shallow Al, thank you for serving.
Takes guts.
NoGod wrote on Nov 18, 2009 3:48 PM:
There are over 1 billion Muslims in the world. Last time I checked they weren't the ones using advanced weaponry to wipe out hundreds of thousands of civilians who have nothing to do with a supposed "war on terror"
All religion is garbage just like your article.
All religion is garbage just like your article.
Opinions are like noses wrote on Nov 18, 2009 3:21 PM:
Mr. (and Mrs./Ms.) Tomlinson, Get down off the cross, we can use the wood.
amadeus wrote on Nov 18, 2009 12:53 PM:
Wm A. Tomlinson, religious fanatics, those who believe in messiahs and the easter bunny...: Your asteroid hit earth millions of years ago, in the Yucatan Peninsula I think... The Earth is NOT 6,000 years old and you all should have been extinct with the other walnut size brained dinosaurs who cannot grasp reality, science or evolution.
The Brutal Truth wrote on Nov 18, 2009 12:43 PM:
Militant, radical muslims need not be tolerated.
However the Bible is pretty violent in its own right. Doesn't mean all Christians are violent jihadists.
This letter is pure drivel.
However the Bible is pretty violent in its own right. Doesn't mean all Christians are violent jihadists.
This letter is pure drivel.
dadochipper wrote on Nov 18, 2009 10:32 AM:
It is a shame that radical Islamists have hijacked the religion and given Islam such a black eye. When someone kills someone, is it worse if they do it in the name of their God? Or if they do it for some other reason? Truth of the matter is, the problem is terrorism. Just because they use Islam as their reason is not a reason to condemm all Muslims. I do wish, however, that Muslims would police their own a bit more. If I had someone running around killing people in the name of something I believed in, I would be the first one to step up and say WHOA....
dan milburn wrote on Nov 18, 2009 10:07 AM:
Hee Haw! Now were talkin'. My God can beat up your God! Holy Tree Hugger Batman! I don't think the Muslims I know buy into this "kill for virgins" rhetoric either. People of low esteem and slow wit from ANY religion or culture can be conned into wearing a 4th of July vest. It's happened for centuries and I'm sure there is alot of "medal of honor" winners still coming down the pike. General George Patton said it best "anytime you can get the enemy to die for their country - your winning the war". THEY call them MARTERS and we call them HEROS. The trick is convincing people that there is a GOOD REASON to be fighting in the first place. After they buy into that part its easy to psyche them into dying for a medal.
barack obama wrote on Nov 17, 2009 10:14 PM:
That is possibly the most ignorant thing I have ever read. Fairly racist too.
MarkM wrote on Nov 17, 2009 9:55 PM:
"Love your enemies." -Jesus of Nazareth
"All you need is love." -John Lennon
"War. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing." -War
Mr. Tomlinson, I would submit that if you were born Muslim, you would want to kill Christians. Think about it.
"All you need is love." -John Lennon
"War. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing." -War
Mr. Tomlinson, I would submit that if you were born Muslim, you would want to kill Christians. Think about it.
MadHatter wrote on Nov 17, 2009 8:54 PM:
We do indeed let members of the Shuar and Jivaro tribes that have come and settled in the United States of America practice there religion, but they also have the sense not to commit crimes of our lands.
This country was founded on freedom of religion, but we seem to forget that since 9/11/01, which is the way some people want it.
Some people want us to be scared, and feel like victims. It makes it easier to take away our rights, the rights our fore fathers died for in so many battles here at home and abroad. To deny anyone, the fundamental rights that we hold ourselves to based on anything disgraces the soldiers and patriots of old.
This country was founded on freedom of religion, but we seem to forget that since 9/11/01, which is the way some people want it.
Some people want us to be scared, and feel like victims. It makes it easier to take away our rights, the rights our fore fathers died for in so many battles here at home and abroad. To deny anyone, the fundamental rights that we hold ourselves to based on anything disgraces the soldiers and patriots of old.
Jess B. wrote on Nov 17, 2009 6:43 PM:
You guys have got to be kidding with the 20/20 rule thing. No 20 versus ahead or behind some of the Bible's horrors can make them any better. You've got me doubting that you have actually read it.
Any radical religion, including Christianity, is harmful and dangerous. Let's not start with the holier than thou business.
Any radical religion, including Christianity, is harmful and dangerous. Let's not start with the holier than thou business.
Steve Pickering wrote on Nov 17, 2009 4:08 PM:
I hate it when a statement is made using a couple of passages. I like the 20/20 rule, for any quote from any book, scroll or parchment.
1313 wrote on Nov 17, 2009 3:56 PM:
Guess it's a good thing Christians just aren't fanatical enough, right ?
What makes "other" religions have so many fanatics? ? ?
Would the suicide bombers blow themselves up if they actually knew they didn't have any "virgins" waiting for them?
Would they attempt terriorist acts if they thought they would get caught and lose their heads, or other parts ?
Why would a religion that stones or kills their women for triveal things, actually blow themselves up to get 13 virgins, doesn't make sense to me.
What makes "other" religions have so many fanatics? ? ?
Would the suicide bombers blow themselves up if they actually knew they didn't have any "virgins" waiting for them?
Would they attempt terriorist acts if they thought they would get caught and lose their heads, or other parts ?
Why would a religion that stones or kills their women for triveal things, actually blow themselves up to get 13 virgins, doesn't make sense to me.
Megapotamus wrote on Nov 17, 2009 2:59 PM:
IDK if EM actually has a Bible or "googles: kill, enemies, swords" on the internet. At least he is "spreading the word" I interupt the Bible on a 20/20 rule: 20 verses before and 20 verses after the verse quoted.
Muslims in general do not like using the term "moderate" understanding it to indicate an individual who has politically sold out to the “other” side. The term moderate Muslim is used to indicate a Muslim who is more secular and less Islamic than the norm, which varies across communities. In America, a moderate Muslim is one who peddles a softer form of Islam – the Islam of John Esposito and Karen Arm Strong – is willing to co-exist peacefully with peoples of other faiths and is comfortable with democracy and the separation of politics and religion. The difference between moderate and militant Muslims is in their own interpretation of Islam.
Muslims in general do not like using the term "moderate" understanding it to indicate an individual who has politically sold out to the “other” side. The term moderate Muslim is used to indicate a Muslim who is more secular and less Islamic than the norm, which varies across communities. In America, a moderate Muslim is one who peddles a softer form of Islam – the Islam of John Esposito and Karen Arm Strong – is willing to co-exist peacefully with peoples of other faiths and is comfortable with democracy and the separation of politics and religion. The difference between moderate and militant Muslims is in their own interpretation of Islam.
E.M. wrote on Nov 17, 2009 1:05 PM:
Kay, Unfortunately radical fundamentalists don't see themselves as such, but are quick to see it in others. Interestingly, It matters absolutely not the particular religions of either parties.
just saying wrote on Nov 17, 2009 1:04 PM:
“When you approach a city to fight against it, you shall offer it terms of peace. If it agrees to make peace with you and opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall become your forced labor and shall serve you. However, if it does not make peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. When the LORD your God gives it into your hand, you shall strike all the men in it with the edge of the sword. Only the women and the children and the animals and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourself; and you shall use the spoil of your enemies which the LORD your God has given you… Only in the cities of these peoples that the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes (Deuteronomy 20:10-17)
just saying wrote on Nov 17, 2009 1:01 PM:
“I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence. (Luke 19:26-27)
just saying wrote on Nov 17, 2009 1:01 PM:
Don't get me started...
Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves. (Numbers 31:17-18)
Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves. (Numbers 31:17-18)
E.M. wrote on Nov 17, 2009 12:41 PM:
And, if you think that is scary, you should read the Old Testament!!
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