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jspicher wrote on Nov 5, 2009 9:27 AM:
"LOVENTHECOAST.... I WORK 40+ HOURS A WEEK, THANKS FOR BEING SO CONCERNED ABOUT MY WELFARE." (w/out quotes).
Leigh wrote on Nov 3, 2009 3:53 PM:
I agree with you CB Lifer. Those people are going to stink anyway, and probably worse than they did before since they will all go to their cars now to smoke. I say make a rule about where people smoke and then enforce it vigorously.
loventhecoast wrote on Nov 3, 2009 12:46 PM:
CB Lifer - i agree, there are many places that they could smoke and not be hovering around the doorways or in the walkways - but for some reason they dont go there. THe college has a cool little dock that has picnic tables around it, but they dont smoke there. I guess it just took a few who abused the space to ruin it for all of the others. They dont stand 10 or 30 feet from the doors, they drop their butts all over the ground and dump their ash trays in the parking lot. When you ask them to move to a 'legal' distance, they just curse at you, blow smoke at you or ignore you completely.
CB Lifer wrote on Nov 3, 2009 11:31 AM:
LOVENTHECOAST - I certainly agree they stink, I live with one. However, (having been a student there), there are many places that student could go, far enough away from you that you couldn't smell it. I know, I know, it sticks to their clothes and hair and they stink. But THAT is not going to cause you a health issue like second hand smoke will. I just think it is unfair to ban it completely from campus. They also have rights, well, maybe not. It doesnt seem like it anymore. It's like your cursed if you smoke, and I just think it's wrong to ban people. Just my opinion.
River Dog wrote on Nov 2, 2009 6:08 PM:
LOVENTHECOAST- On your last sentence "are you just one who goes to school to avoid working?" I salute you for that, it is perfect.
loventhecoast wrote on Nov 2, 2009 10:11 AM:
CHILLY - it IS illegal to be smoking IN the school - and it IS illegal to smoke within 10 feet of the door... and soon we all hope that it WILL be illegal for anyone to smoke ON campus.
And you really think enrollment will drop JUST because they cant smoke ON campus? Most people want an education to make something of themselves. Are you just one who goes to school to avoid working?
And you really think enrollment will drop JUST because they cant smoke ON campus? Most people want an education to make something of themselves. Are you just one who goes to school to avoid working?
Holly72 wrote on Nov 1, 2009 4:27 PM:
RE: con queso, I understand what you mean although the teachers are very clear at the begining of each term. Even with perfums, many will ask you not to wear it. As a matter of fact many state building will deny you service or ask you to go to the bathroom and wash it off. I also work with some people who have oders too and yes we suck it up and deal with them. But one thing we have to realize is that the school does preach NO smoking and drinking. Sorry but they can't preach it without inforceing it right? Anyways it is a place of education not a smoking spot. This isn't the first C.C. to do this.
dan milburn wrote on Nov 1, 2009 3:23 PM:
While attending College here I smoked. When I gradutated I was smarter and used my edumacation to quit smoking. I aint smoked since. Who wants a Degree than stanks like cigeratte smoke? Not me, thats fer sure. PS My advisor smoked a pipe!
Con Queso wrote on Oct 31, 2009 10:48 PM:
In response to Holly72's comment, if I were being denied an education because my instructor didn't like that I smelled like smoke for a couple of minutes I think I would be getting a lawyer. I'm not the sue-happy type, but where do you draw the line? I've worked in service industry jobs where people smelled like smoke, booze, BO and all kinds of other disgusting things. I didn't like it, but I still had to serve them. And I always did my job without complaint and without belittling them in this way. But I forgot ... we're talking about academia.
River Dog wrote on Oct 31, 2009 12:33 PM:
Current policy 30 feet, number of smokers that obey that 0. I have taken a lot of classes over the last few years and the only time I seen anyone more then 10 feet from the doors smoking is the ones walking to class. Every time you walk into a building the smoke gets sucked into it because the all stand right at the door, then you have to smell the stinking smoke all day. Then instead of walking to the ash trays that are supplied out side of the building 30 feet from the doors where it is ok to smoke, the cigaretts are just tossed on the ground outside the door litering the ground. But that is probably caused by the shortness of breath caused by smoking that makes it to much of a effort to discard it in the right spot. But just think if chilly is right about a drop in students, doubt if there will be, be sad to have a nice clean campus free of the blue haze you must walk through every time you go to class.
laughinghard wrote on Oct 31, 2009 8:02 AM:
It is about time they made the campus smoke free. It used to drive me crazy walking around and seeing all the butts left by smokers too lazy to throw them away. Especially ouside of all of the doorways! To Chilly hate to tell you but the school wont miss you. Take your classes on line and just affect your own health! One more question why is it that you always see smokers littering by throwing their cigerette butts out on the streets? they should oulaw it state wide or fine heavily if you are to lazy to dispose of them correctly!
ALFRED E. NEWMAN wrote on Oct 31, 2009 12:41 AM:
Hey Chilly, IT IS ILLEGAL TO SMOKE ON SCHOOL GROUNDS. It has been for many years now.It was even banned for Teachers as well. I cannot say for Colleges, but K through 12 You cannot smoke whether the School is open or not, on their grounds.
Leigh wrote on Oct 30, 2009 3:49 PM:
I am not a smoker. In fact, I HATE the disgusting smell. However, it is legal to smoke if you are over the age of 18. Instead of banning smoking at the college altogether (which smacks of discrimination to me), they should designate certain areas far away from buildings for that purpose.
chilly wrote on Oct 29, 2009 9:22 PM:
LOVEN THE COAST.... IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO DRINK IN PUBLIC OR ON SCHOOL GROUNDS... IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO SMOKE... CIGARETTES ARE LEGAL, GET OVER YOURSELF...........
chilly wrote on Oct 29, 2009 9:19 PM:
I for one, am a smoker, and I live in a FREE COUNTRY, THEREFORE, I HAVE RIGHTS, AND SMOKING IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW, IT IS LEGAL... THEREFORE, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SMOKE, YOU WANT TO TAKE MY RIGHTS AWAY.... YOU LOSE A STUDENT... you think the economy is bad now? think of all the people who will stay home and take online classes... they wont have to pay for gas to get to school, they dont have to deal with being discriminated against... and they can smoke... watch for the enrollment to start declining... and such a pity from such a small town community college, when there are much bigger colleges to learn more from... way to go coos bay, become smoke free, see how much money you start losing all around in the whole community.
holly72 wrote on Oct 29, 2009 9:13 PM:
You know for all of you who are crying about the no smoking, you must not take classes at Swocc. Many and I mean MANY teacher will ask their student NOT TO COME INTO THIER CLASSROOM if they just got through smoking because they cant handle the smell on them. Has anyone of you had to sit/stand next to someone who smells like a rotten cat litter mixed with what ever they smoke.GROSS!
pril wrote on Oct 29, 2009 8:52 PM:
ok, trying this again...
Chandler has a point and Abel is fooling himself if he thinks other people's consumption of fatty, unhealthy food doesn't affect him. If he pays anything for healthcare, it certainly does affect him.
Chandler has a point and Abel is fooling himself if he thinks other people's consumption of fatty, unhealthy food doesn't affect him. If he pays anything for healthcare, it certainly does affect him.
NB_Rez wrote on Oct 29, 2009 2:54 PM:
I think the issue here is that non-smokers don't want to pass through a carinogenic haze just to get to class. Other addictions such as alcohol or food don't create the same second-hand pollutants that smoking does. It isn't about fairness, it's about being able to live a healthy lifestyle that is not dependant on whether someone else wants to light up.
loventhecoast wrote on Oct 29, 2009 12:32 PM:
CB Lifer...
now, i am not able to drink a beer at my desk in class - and i can not come to class with beer breath -or the smell of booze all over my clothes - why should it be different for smokers? Their clothes smell, their hair smells and their breath really smells.
The college is not saying that you have to STOP smoking - they are just saying that you cannot smoke on the campus. and they are messy.
now, i am not able to drink a beer at my desk in class - and i can not come to class with beer breath -or the smell of booze all over my clothes - why should it be different for smokers? Their clothes smell, their hair smells and their breath really smells.
The college is not saying that you have to STOP smoking - they are just saying that you cannot smoke on the campus. and they are messy.
carefree highway wrote on Oct 28, 2009 4:38 PM:
You betcha, lets keep making up more regulations to harrass, fine and imprison people. Still havnt outlawed disease and poverty tho?? Hmmm, leave that to some with a little more....Education?
Con Queso wrote on Oct 28, 2009 4:15 PM:
I like this, in theory. It's a great idea and I for one would appreciate not having to encounter all the smoke, especially around doorways. However, in the interest of fairness, there should be an out of the way place for smokers, and restrict it to that area. Or maybe it should be allowed in the parking lot. Employees and students who smoke should still have a right to do what they do, just as much as everyone else should have the right not to breath their smoke. Let's find a workable solution rather than a full-fledged ban.
CB Lifer wrote on Oct 28, 2009 3:33 PM:
OK, so if it was something YOU were addicted to, alcohol, chocolate, what ever, would you think it fair that you couldn't eat it whenever you wanted?
CB Individual wrote on Oct 28, 2009 3:09 PM:
Smoking is stupid. It stinks and it is expensive for the individual and society. On a campus of "higher learning" here's some motivation to help you break a bad habit. You'll have more money in your pocket! Get smart and kick your addiction - you only keep smoking because you choose to let the tobacco company win profits while slowly killing you.
coquillian wrote on Oct 28, 2009 2:14 PM:
Hooray, all the smokers can go to their cars or homes and smoke. Even when they are smoking 10 ft away from an entrance, have you noticed the mess they leave?
holly72 wrote on Oct 28, 2009 2:10 PM:
That will be GREAT! Should hire staff to that are non-smokers too. Its pretty awful when you are in the library and see the employees taking "smoke breaks" every 30 mins and which it take them 15 mins to smoke one cigarette. Boy, what I would give to have a job pay me for all those breaks. I think they shouldn't get paid for those breaks either, think how much more the college would save in cigarette breaks.
loventhecoast wrote on Oct 28, 2009 12:42 PM:
I have to say it will be nice to be able to walk into a building without having to elbow your way past the smokers. It will also be nice to be able to open classroom windows during the nicer weather and not have to smell the smoke.
thank you SOCC for looking out for us!
thank you SOCC for looking out for us!
CB Lifer wrote on Oct 28, 2009 12:41 PM:
Well, I am starting to think smokers are being discriminated against beyond what should be legal. I am an ex-smoker, don't like breathing second hand smoke, but this is getting rediculous. Let them kill themselves if they want, we ARE supposed to be a FREE country. Look around, we are not. Smoking outside 10 to 30 feet away is fine, but people, quit discriminating just because you don't like something or someone. It won't be racism, it'll be habitism. Give people a break to be what and who they want to be. And if smoking is there thing, let 'em smoke 30 feet from me.
Just An Observer wrote on Oct 28, 2009 11:59 AM:
State law = 10 feet
Current policy = 30 feet
Looks like with no indoor smoking and a very distanced outdoor smoking, there should not be a need for further restrictions on adult behaviors here. If you get second hand smoke from an outdoor smoker to the point you really are affected, it's your fault.
Current policy = 30 feet
Looks like with no indoor smoking and a very distanced outdoor smoking, there should not be a need for further restrictions on adult behaviors here. If you get second hand smoke from an outdoor smoker to the point you really are affected, it's your fault.
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