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Pure_brandi wrote on Oct 28, 2009 4:59 PM:
Haha, yeah, go figure, drinking BEING FUN? OMG NO WAY!
Maybe if people took their eyes off they're elders/pastors that are preaching "ALCOHOL IS SIN" they'd be more open-minded to what else occurs during such activities. Hmm..
Maybe if people took their eyes off they're elders/pastors that are preaching "ALCOHOL IS SIN" they'd be more open-minded to what else occurs during such activities. Hmm..
barack obama wrote on Oct 28, 2009 12:43 PM:
This just in!!!! People like drinking!!!! People like partying!!!! Alcohol sometimes leads to fights!!!!! Hold the presses!!!! What are we to do!!!!
Pure_brandi wrote on Oct 27, 2009 7:26 PM:
Yeah, assumptions are made easily within these comment pages. I was simply defending Mak's a bit and was labeled "unpure" and apparently a "patron" of the club. Common Coos County ignorance for ya...as for the Mill I don't think its so much a matter of race as it is possibly being a huge employer/money bucket for this depressed little town. Something to think about at least...
1313 wrote on Oct 23, 2009 4:43 PM:
RAMJET, what do you mean The Mill does not have Police Calls, they are listed every night in the Police Reports for something or other.
Why do you think I am racist? ? ? ?
Because I make comments about The Mill? WOW ! ! !
Why do you think I am racist? ? ? ?
Because I make comments about The Mill? WOW ! ! !
Roger Ramjet wrote on Oct 23, 2009 3:26 PM:
1313: The reason is simple. They don't have police calls at The Mill. That's a matter of public record. Check your facts before shooting next time. Your racism in these blogs is wearing a bit thin. Bar Patrons WILL go someplace else when Mak's closes. But each establishment reserves the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason. These problems are always the result of mismanagement and not the patrons. The patrons are the same, they just act up in places where they're allowed to do so.
Dragonman wrote on Oct 23, 2009 3:11 PM:
Close it down! Close it all down. NIMBY! Get rid of everyone under 50. We should erect a sign at both ends of town. Senior City 50+ only.
Pure_brandi wrote on Oct 23, 2009 2:11 PM:
Whoa Whoa...for the record, I don't drink hardly at all, or nearly as much as my age group does...being between 21 and 25. But I do know what kind of place Mak's has offered the young adults in this community and its a place to hang out. Yes, for the group of lushes and bad bouncer-management it has come down to (what looks like) a crash and burn end, but you can't argue the point that this area lacks anywhere to legally loiter and visit out of a house with your friends such as late night cafes or the such. As for the "teen dance club" idea, yea, remember what the BarWench was about 7 years ago after the strip club? And how long did that last? Not going to work folks sorry...there's money in liquor!
coosbay7733 wrote on Oct 22, 2009 2:30 PM:
Before I begin I just want to state that yes I have been a patron at Mak's, and yes I do enjoy Mak's....most of the time. However, I firmly believe that Mak's problems are 90% their fault. We can't put all the blame on Mak's but most of their issues can defintley be put squarely on their shoulders. Having witnessed personally some of the incidents I can vouche that Mak's bouncers are some of the worst I have ever witnessed. Too many times have I seen fights continue and continue (whether inside or just outside), bouncers using fights as MMA showcases, and bouncers letting incredibly intoxicated patrons inside. The truth of the matter is if Mak's truly cared about their future they would have done whatever it took to stop the fighting, excessive intoxication, etc from occuring!
Norse Girl wrote on Oct 22, 2009 2:01 PM:
MR E, you're right - I agree with the points you bring out. But even if other bars do a good job of keeping the disorderly out of their bars - you would still have troublesome people attempting to get in and then when they are kicked to the curb - wouldn't they just cause a scene outside of the bar - which would result in the bar calling the police to come take him away - which would result with the police now logging more calls being made from a new bar. The bar did nothing wrong and did exactly what they should have done but the police were still called and now that becomes the focus. That's what I'm worried about - is that a GOOD bar will end up getting a bad rep for just doing what they were supposed to. I just think something needs to be done about the troublemakers but I understand that's easier said than done.
Norse Girl wrote on Oct 22, 2009 1:55 PM:
COQUILLIAN, I agree with you. We may not have a lot of shopping to offer or arcades, mini-golf, etc. but even if we did, those things cost money and I don't know about everyone else but I can't afford to pay for a fun evening out that often anyways. So I'm glad that I live in an area that offers many free outdoor activities and promotes me and my family to be active. And yes, I have nights when I just want to go out with my hubsand or the girls for a few drinks - but we always choose a nice resturaunt to go to - why does it have to be a bar if you want to go out for drinks?
1313 wrote on Oct 22, 2009 10:50 AM:
Now all Mac's patrons can go to the MILL and let them call the police. They can get away with all the police calls when nobody else can. Why? ? ?
coquillian wrote on Oct 22, 2009 10:18 AM:
OK people and for the non-outdoor types, how about the movies, LTOB, Sawdusters, getting involved in a charity, joining some service clubs, going to the gym, watching local sports which by the way are almost every night except Sunday, taking a drive, etc. Again, no alcohol. What a shame people have to think that loud music and intoxication are the only way to go.
orecoast007 wrote on Oct 22, 2009 9:12 AM:
It sounds like PURE_BRANDI is a patron of Max's......there is nothing pure about that.............. By the way, I know of "ONE" tavern that if these little boys and girls start running their mouths the bouncers "WILL" toss their *** out. NO QUESTIONS ASKED!!! Bar Wench will do the same thing by the way........
Mr E wrote on Oct 22, 2009 7:19 AM:
While it is obviously true that the customers are causing the trouble at Mak's, I'd like to point out to anyone who isn't a loving patron of the establishment (or a worker/owner) that the bar has had a few (to put it lightly) problems with bouncers, and certainly has had a few problems with over-serving drinks. The bar is a hot spot for violent activity for a reason, and any respectable bar in the community seems to keep these troublemakers away on a pretty regular basis (obviously, at bars, fights happen, but not with the same kind of regularity), so why can't this bar?
Go ahead and claim that the bar was, in no way, responsible for some of the behavior of its patrons. Anyone with common sense will tell you that you're wrong. You can only pull the "well they did it to themselves" line oh so often. Though I'll admit, at least I'm not reading some of the ABSURD defenses of Mak's as I've seen in previous article comments... such as how "drunks come to Mak's from other bars in order to start fights" and other jewels of logic.
Go ahead and claim that the bar was, in no way, responsible for some of the behavior of its patrons. Anyone with common sense will tell you that you're wrong. You can only pull the "well they did it to themselves" line oh so often. Though I'll admit, at least I'm not reading some of the ABSURD defenses of Mak's as I've seen in previous article comments... such as how "drunks come to Mak's from other bars in order to start fights" and other jewels of logic.
Rebecca1 wrote on Oct 21, 2009 10:00 PM:
Yes!!! Please do get rid of this Mak's, mostly because it is not congruenent in what downtown Coos Bay should be harboring, sure it's a Seaport, sure it's a loggerman & millworker's town & it could get kind of rough sometimes when those guys are winding down, but, this I know, Mak's doesn't have that kind of class. I know closing it will only move the "Problem" elsewhere, but, at least it's elsewhere, & maybe with good guideance, it will disapate all together!!
dan milburn wrote on Oct 21, 2009 6:49 PM:
I had my first drink in the STATION when I turned 21-years old. That was 39-years ago. Today my family owns the place as the Backstreet Saloon and of the countless wonderful times we've had there - I have never had another drink in the place. A good clean place that is managed well doesn't have to have all drunks for customers.
dan milburn wrote on Oct 21, 2009 6:19 PM:
Be carefull what you wish for you just might get it! North Bend Police Chief Scibelli is looking for a place for kids to hang out. Get the folks at Maks to toss out their liquor bottles and make a teen dance club out of it. All you folks with so much to say about can get on board as shaperons. You don't have to hire dance bands you can have a teen DJ spinning CDs. Problem solved. Maks will be the place for kids to go! Yes! Ok now Coos Bay Folks get on down to Maks and help them out. Save the economy - save the kids - save the cops with no more drunken brawls, dui's, fights, and complaints!
ocnlvr83 wrote on Oct 21, 2009 5:53 PM:
I hate saying Coquillian, but I have to agree with Pure_Brandi. If people aren't into beaches, hunting, golfing, or duning; there isn't much to do. Not everyone comes to an area to witness its natural beauty. Some come for the shopping, ambiance, or to visit relatives. And referring to another article with just as many comments, Coos Bay is slowly losing them too, since businesses are slowly disappearing.
coquillian wrote on Oct 21, 2009 3:04 PM:
Only someone with no imagination would think that "there is nothing to do." My family, camps, hunts, rides in the dunes, hikes, goes to the beach...need I add more? And indoors? We have plenty of hobbies, and a good TV. Who would "need" a bar. Oh thats right, a lot of the trouble makers do. So we should worry about them, right?
South Coast wrote on Oct 21, 2009 2:49 PM:
How does the small claims court filing between the owners have anything to do with the issue at hand, and why even print that other than to make an attempt at making the owners look bad.
BTW, never been in Maks, dont know the owners, but a small claims case has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
BTW, never been in Maks, dont know the owners, but a small claims case has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
Pure_brandi wrote on Oct 21, 2009 1:55 PM:
Yeah, it seems the decision-makers haven't figured out that those trouble-makers will just migrate to the next flashy hot spot. Its the group of them, ten bucks says they'll go hang at the Pourhouse or Barwench...which will be another unfair judgement and ruined business.
non-alcoholic activities huh? Such as? Riding in the dunes...? Good luck not getting hassled on your way in or out if your lucky enough to afford the gas. Admit it, there's not much to offer here for entertainment period.
non-alcoholic activities huh? Such as? Riding in the dunes...? Good luck not getting hassled on your way in or out if your lucky enough to afford the gas. Admit it, there's not much to offer here for entertainment period.
SNAKEBITE wrote on Oct 21, 2009 1:53 PM:
Like some people say, the problem is the people, not the bar. I've been to most all the bars that have come and gone in in Coos Bay/Noth Bend in the last 30 years and it is definately the people in the bar that are the problem..not the owner or the bar. perhaps more rigorus security in the bar would help alleviate the problem.
kikilongbean wrote on Oct 21, 2009 1:16 PM:
It's not the bar, it's the people that visit the bar. They will just move someplace else and then there will be another bar to close down.
coquillian wrote on Oct 21, 2009 12:40 PM:
Too Bad, another drinking establishment may bite the dust. Why is it that drinking is so important? We have many other non-alcoholic things to do. Sad.
Just An Observer wrote on Oct 21, 2009 12:17 PM:
Close down Mak's and there's yet ANOTHER vacant downtown Coos Bay building awaiting it's turn to be dealt with as it crumbles into the fill. "Come to Coos Bay and see the ruins!" will be our tourism draw...LOL!
Norse Girl wrote on Oct 21, 2009 11:37 AM:
Maybe it's not the bar's fault, maybe it's the people that go out looking to get drunk and cause problems - what is the judge doing about them? Oh nothing - so they will just find a new place to go get drunk and cause problems and they police will start going to that bar more often and then the City will file a complaint against that bar, etc. Way to go on adding to the unemployment rate!
thetejun wrote on Oct 21, 2009 10:59 AM:
The situation at Mak's has only improved. The OFFICIALS are going off our first year's numbers. And yes I admit, handling Coos County's finest while they are drinking is a daunting task. Especially when there is a couple hundred of them.
I compare it to some city slickers getting a brand new cattle ranch. New corrals, new horses, new cows, but they are still city slickers handling COWS!
Our first few months were scary for sure. But like ANYTHING else in life we got better! NOW TWO AND A HALF YEARS later, no one is dead and the herd is settled in. YES, we still have a cow jump the fences here and there but by God we are much better at handling the herd and only getting better.
Any Judge or Official who fails to see this is blind and not taking into account the FACTS.
I compare it to some city slickers getting a brand new cattle ranch. New corrals, new horses, new cows, but they are still city slickers handling COWS!
Our first few months were scary for sure. But like ANYTHING else in life we got better! NOW TWO AND A HALF YEARS later, no one is dead and the herd is settled in. YES, we still have a cow jump the fences here and there but by God we are much better at handling the herd and only getting better.
Any Judge or Official who fails to see this is blind and not taking into account the FACTS.
Local Lady wrote on Oct 21, 2009 10:58 AM:
And once again people still haven't figured out that taking away their license WILL NOT MAKE THE PROBLEM GO AWAY. I would have thought that after closing 101 they would have got it into their heads that the problem only moves to a new location. Guess I'm one of the few actually using my noggin here. Not that I actually like Mak's. The place is a dive at its best but still. Where's the next dive going to be at? It's a never ending cycle of poor logic.
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