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dan milburn wrote on Oct 23, 2009 12:22 PM:
Momma always said " where ever profanity exists - ignorance prevails".
You gotta work at smarter if you want to be a winner. Any fool can bang heads, eat dirt and catch a football.
That's all I got to say about that!
You gotta work at smarter if you want to be a winner. Any fool can bang heads, eat dirt and catch a football.
That's all I got to say about that!
Con Queso wrote on Oct 16, 2009 10:16 PM:
Dragonman,
If I recall correctly each grade level is worth a point, so a D is 1.0, C 2.0, B 3.0 and on up the line. So a C average would be 2.0. I say this to lead me into my point that Marshfield actually established a tougher grade standard than the OSAA for participation in athletics. Now it's a 2.0 GPA, minimum, with no failed classes, if I recall correctly. That's MUCH better than the bare minimum of 1.0 and no more than two Fs. And, by the way, you've won your argument. I get the knocks on the "Player" on here early on, but with your continued posts, now you're just beating up on what appears to be a hot-headed teenager.
If I recall correctly each grade level is worth a point, so a D is 1.0, C 2.0, B 3.0 and on up the line. So a C average would be 2.0. I say this to lead me into my point that Marshfield actually established a tougher grade standard than the OSAA for participation in athletics. Now it's a 2.0 GPA, minimum, with no failed classes, if I recall correctly. That's MUCH better than the bare minimum of 1.0 and no more than two Fs. And, by the way, you've won your argument. I get the knocks on the "Player" on here early on, but with your continued posts, now you're just beating up on what appears to be a hot-headed teenager.
Dragonman wrote on Oct 15, 2009 9:36 PM:
PLAYER:> One more thing, there is a minimum educational standard for players. This means you have to AT LEAST make this grade, it used to be a 2.0 in some schools, in order to play. I think that’s a D, maybe you need a 2.5. a C. It’s not very much, Minimal effort to make it. It might have been hard for you though.
Dragonman wrote on Oct 15, 2009 9:22 PM:
PLAYER:> You did not whine about wearing a football helmet did you. Before you think you are so special, many of us wore a football helmet. I personally participated in 2 a days to get ready for the season, and I don’t believe I ever heard the coach cuss. I remember watching a player on my team do pushups on the side line if he wanted to still play for our team. He pushed and yelled at a player after a play, he got a flag. We took our helmets off at half time. Oh by the way you’re not in the NFL so your games do not last 4 hours. You are in high school young man your games are an hour. You are the first football player I have ever heard talk about how hard it is to wear a helmet. Or how hard the practice is, or how hard the games are. Maybe you should check into home economics or something like that that won’t be so hard on you. I’d like to see you put that on. LOL. I played football, Defensive end, I loved my helmet, and it was easy to wear.
player wrote on Oct 15, 2009 9:03 PM:
Mdowny
i think you need to pay more attention to the game then to whos on the sidelines, it's pretty pathetic that you are "bleeping" about what the subs on the sidelines are doing... why don't you watch the game for a minute.
and if you can't admit that coos bay officials take muuuch liberty in throwing their little yellow hankies then you're crazy. they will throw it at any ticky tack rule in the book and it gets pretty ridiculous..
there have def been "unsportsmanlike" flags thrown when nothing unsportsmalike has been done. but thats a whole other debate that can go ALL over the place. but its fact none the less
watch the game dude.
i think you need to pay more attention to the game then to whos on the sidelines, it's pretty pathetic that you are "bleeping" about what the subs on the sidelines are doing... why don't you watch the game for a minute.
and if you can't admit that coos bay officials take muuuch liberty in throwing their little yellow hankies then you're crazy. they will throw it at any ticky tack rule in the book and it gets pretty ridiculous..
there have def been "unsportsmanlike" flags thrown when nothing unsportsmalike has been done. but thats a whole other debate that can go ALL over the place. but its fact none the less
watch the game dude.
milldowny wrote on Oct 15, 2009 12:21 PM:
Player:
Again I forgive your comments they are coming from what has been built into by your football program. If you re-read my message I stated "Unless there is a real need to remove your helmet" Drinking water is a real need. But it does not take a series to get a drink. I watch very closely at your sideline I am not making it up. Look at the film. Any real football man or women who really understands football knows what I am saying about helmets coming off on the sidelines when you are spectating. Watch the real disiplined teams and model from them. Sorry but, when is a 15 yard unsportsman like conduct flag not a big deal??? You prove my point by making a statement just like that. Good luck the rest of your season.
Again I forgive your comments they are coming from what has been built into by your football program. If you re-read my message I stated "Unless there is a real need to remove your helmet" Drinking water is a real need. But it does not take a series to get a drink. I watch very closely at your sideline I am not making it up. Look at the film. Any real football man or women who really understands football knows what I am saying about helmets coming off on the sidelines when you are spectating. Watch the real disiplined teams and model from them. Sorry but, when is a 15 yard unsportsman like conduct flag not a big deal??? You prove my point by making a statement just like that. Good luck the rest of your season.
player wrote on Oct 14, 2009 8:30 PM:
Mildowny...
why on earth would taking your helmet off on the sidelines be unsportsmanlike?! and on the field the only time they can take them off is ona time out to take a drink of water! i would love to see u strap one of those things on for 4 hours, not take it off and see how your head feels after.
and also, there has never once been an unsportsmanlike flag thrown and the kid not even be adressed, sure maybe not taken out of the game bc its usually not "that big of a deal" (dependent upon the instance), but just attend the monday practice and see what happens to that player.. then i can assure you u will re-evaluate your thinking!
why on earth would taking your helmet off on the sidelines be unsportsmanlike?! and on the field the only time they can take them off is ona time out to take a drink of water! i would love to see u strap one of those things on for 4 hours, not take it off and see how your head feels after.
and also, there has never once been an unsportsmanlike flag thrown and the kid not even be adressed, sure maybe not taken out of the game bc its usually not "that big of a deal" (dependent upon the instance), but just attend the monday practice and see what happens to that player.. then i can assure you u will re-evaluate your thinking!
Dragonman wrote on Oct 14, 2009 8:02 PM:
South coast edu> so a passionate teacher should be f’in it up to prove how heartfelt she-he is about what she-he is teaching. Change the name of the school to the F’in MHS then. For your information young men still need leadership and role models that are appropriate, even at 16, 17, 18, especially in a society where abuse is rampant. Throwing the clip board is nothing. Acting out on ones anger is something else. Was he being passionate, or angry? Passion rarely gets a flag. Anger gets some women or child beat.
PLAYER>Telling people to go away because they are not happy about behaviors that seem inappropriate from an adult that’s guiding our young men, well that might be a great way for MHS to get the community to turn their backs; I know I will watch you with a little different attitude now. Well Now that I know how tough you are. The team changes yearly, those of us who have been around watching MHS for years; well we have a passion too. Believe me it is not watching unruly sportsmanship.
LOL :0) 20-0 giveaway, “Karma”, You F’IN go boys!
PLAYER>Telling people to go away because they are not happy about behaviors that seem inappropriate from an adult that’s guiding our young men, well that might be a great way for MHS to get the community to turn their backs; I know I will watch you with a little different attitude now. Well Now that I know how tough you are. The team changes yearly, those of us who have been around watching MHS for years; well we have a passion too. Believe me it is not watching unruly sportsmanship.
LOL :0) 20-0 giveaway, “Karma”, You F’IN go boys!
firefly wrote on Oct 13, 2009 10:54 PM:
"ONCE A PIRATE ALWAYS A PIRATE" GO MHS.....great Job kids and coaches
milldowny wrote on Oct 13, 2009 6:06 PM:
I am frustrated with coaching allowing this unsportsmanship behavior to continue. You have talented kids and coaches but you're missing one of the biggest lessons coaches can give our adults....Which is sportsmanship, class, and how to be a good winner and loser. I understand Marshfield players that are on here supporting their coaches that they have that built into them from day one. So players I excuse your behavior on here and understand where its coming from. Coaches and players always have each others back. Marshfield has a bad rep for sportsmanship and ir reflects poorly on our community and Administration. Coaches must realize that we are under a very watchful eye from parents, community members, administration and other schools. How we handle our players and team is a direct reflection on our district.
I think it is a total disrespect to the game to allow players to remove their helmets on the field or sideline unless there is a real need.
I have seen unsportsman like flags be thrown and the coach does not remove them from the contest or even address them I have watched this closely.
I think it is a total disrespect to the game to allow players to remove their helmets on the field or sideline unless there is a real need.
I have seen unsportsman like flags be thrown and the coach does not remove them from the contest or even address them I have watched this closely.
milldowny wrote on Oct 13, 2009 6:04 PM:
Look people, I admire as a fellow coach when a coach has his or her heart into it. I totally understand the passion and pride that you earn and develop with your fellow coaches and student athletes. However, we are the "leaders" and must lead by example. Our players watch us closely and we set examples for them. We also represent the school in which we work for as well as the city. We must have the ability to harness the emotions involved in competitive sports. We must and I say must have composure. What seperates good coaches from others is when the going gets tough do you through a tantrum, use very bad langauge, (which by the way if an athlete uses it they can get flagged or punished by a coach, at least within good programs) or do you re-focus and make wise adjustments to get your team back on track. The problem I have with Marshfield is the staff and administration allowing unsportsman like penalties go unpunished.
c.b. businessman wrote on Oct 13, 2009 2:37 PM:
To A of O: To be totally honest ...... I agree with you.
Pure_brandi wrote on Oct 13, 2009 2:25 PM:
OK ok ok, this is getting a little silly (highschool-ridiculous perhaps?). "You mispelled this and this and this" and referring to the players as "jocks" or students as "non-jocks". Lets get back on track here and keep these comments relatively adult shall we?
All in All, COOSRIVER makes the simple core point of this whole debate. The coach would get ten times more effort, focus, determination and confidence from his players if he RESPECTED them enough to be a MAN about things (aka, admitting when he's wrong, taking doses of his own medicine when he screws up) instead of making a scene, using obscene language (in front of the rest of the states' highschools btw) and embarassing his players with his little hissy-fits on the sidelines. Thats just plan human nature people. Would you rather follow a leader who you take pride and honor in or who your hoping not to piss off and get an 16, 17, 18 yr olds' reaction out of it (P.S...teenager=kid still there tiger ;-)?
All in All, COOSRIVER makes the simple core point of this whole debate. The coach would get ten times more effort, focus, determination and confidence from his players if he RESPECTED them enough to be a MAN about things (aka, admitting when he's wrong, taking doses of his own medicine when he screws up) instead of making a scene, using obscene language (in front of the rest of the states' highschools btw) and embarassing his players with his little hissy-fits on the sidelines. Thats just plan human nature people. Would you rather follow a leader who you take pride and honor in or who your hoping not to piss off and get an 16, 17, 18 yr olds' reaction out of it (P.S...teenager=kid still there tiger ;-)?
player wrote on Oct 13, 2009 1:25 PM:
i would LOVE to find out those stats because i CAN guarantee u majority of ALL athletes at mhs are the higher achieving students of the school seeing as how they have to meet certain academic qualifications in order to be able to compete.i would love for someone to find out the ratio for dropouts who had ever competed in athletics and who hadn't, i would be willing to put money that that number is higher than 50:1. that, my friend, is a guarantee.
revcpa wrote on Oct 13, 2009 12:38 PM:
Uh, Amadeus, that would be "your." "You're" is a contraction of "you are." You will not be taught that in a goverment school though.
coosriver wrote on Oct 13, 2009 12:28 PM:
What has happened,when I played HS sports we ran laps for using a cuss word in practice and if a coach slipped they also ran laps. And if you want to get ripped you were unsportsman in a game.
AnneofOregon wrote on Oct 13, 2009 11:22 AM:
CB Businessman: Once again, you are missing the POINT. If you are around kids, watch your mouth. I don't care if you volunteer or not ~ behave accordingly.
I went to MHS. Iv'e seen it and heard it before and all the excuses that come with the behavior ~ just a little passion, it motivates the kids, etc. Please.
What do we really want to be teaching our kids anyway? That it is ok to throw things and cuss if you are passionate about it? How about good sportsmanship, teamwork, following the rules and being a good loser?
I went to MHS. Iv'e seen it and heard it before and all the excuses that come with the behavior ~ just a little passion, it motivates the kids, etc. Please.
What do we really want to be teaching our kids anyway? That it is ok to throw things and cuss if you are passionate about it? How about good sportsmanship, teamwork, following the rules and being a good loser?
amadeus wrote on Oct 13, 2009 9:42 AM:
to "PLAYER", it sounds to me like you are saying the jocks are actually better than the non jocks. Although, if your spelling is any indication, then I challenge you're (that is the proper way to spell it)contention regarding extra curricular (that is how you spell it) activities. I hope you can take criticism (that is how you spell it) but I have no idea what "lameo" means either. Way to go, player...you prove my point.
amadeus wrote on Oct 13, 2009 9:32 AM:
oops, SORRY "observer", I was meaning to address "player" forgive my mistake please!!!!
amadeus wrote on Oct 13, 2009 8:41 AM:
to just an observer, put your money where your mouth is. I challenge you to "guarantee" your claim and see if the school will disclose the average grades of the jocks in science and math, and those , say in a chess club, or music program, or any other academia...I GUARANTEE you are wrong about the jocks academic performance. Teachers? any comments? (those who are NOT coaches I mean)
Just An Observer wrote on Oct 12, 2009 10:49 PM:
Sounds like a lot of Pirates are getting butthurt (love that word!) over their bad sportsmanship getting exposed. Hey, don't do the crime (acting up) if you can't do the time (bad pub)!
Nice way to choke away the Churchill game too by losing a 20-0 lead at home. Typical Pirate loss. Make lots of mistakes and gift wrap the W for the other team. How many times will Jeff and Marist beat you guys down before you learn to play a good game of football? Focus on executing instead of acting like a bunch of brats! It will improve the win percentage, I guarantee it.
Nice way to choke away the Churchill game too by losing a 20-0 lead at home. Typical Pirate loss. Make lots of mistakes and gift wrap the W for the other team. How many times will Jeff and Marist beat you guys down before you learn to play a good game of football? Focus on executing instead of acting like a bunch of brats! It will improve the win percentage, I guarantee it.
South Coast Educator wrote on Oct 12, 2009 10:30 PM:
One would be hard-pressed to find a more dedicated professional and advocate for kids, both on and off the field, than this man. Taking one negative letter and allowing it to define the character of this man is both untrue and shameful.
I will agree that he could rein in some of his language; however, I hope he NEVER removes his heart from his sleeve, NEVER lowers the volume of his voice, NOR lessens the intensity of his passion. There's nothing wrong with a tossed clipboard here and there, either. Watch any high school, college or pro game and you'll see its not out of the norm.
He is a top-notch educator and coach. I can assure all that he does NOT, in any way, abuse the team after a loss or poor performance; rather he encourages the players to do better next time. He is a man who lifts up those up around him and will give all he's got to help ANY kid, not just the jocks, succeed.
I will agree that he could rein in some of his language; however, I hope he NEVER removes his heart from his sleeve, NEVER lowers the volume of his voice, NOR lessens the intensity of his passion. There's nothing wrong with a tossed clipboard here and there, either. Watch any high school, college or pro game and you'll see its not out of the norm.
He is a top-notch educator and coach. I can assure all that he does NOT, in any way, abuse the team after a loss or poor performance; rather he encourages the players to do better next time. He is a man who lifts up those up around him and will give all he's got to help ANY kid, not just the jocks, succeed.
player wrote on Oct 12, 2009 8:26 PM:
why does everyone act like these are little kids... they're not. 16,17,18 year-old kids who can handle a little critisism that may consist of a cuss word here and there. theres nothing wrong with it, if youre that soft then dont get involved and go play chess or something.
mr lameo conservative, for youre info most all kids who are involved in athletics are more typically the higher achieving STUDENTS of the school. so to say that more money needs to be put into school more than it already is... obviously its not being taken advantage of by the kids who only go to school and don't participate in extra caricular activities.
i can guarantee u that the majority of the athletes at this school are the higher achiever students. GUARANTEED.
mr lameo conservative, for youre info most all kids who are involved in athletics are more typically the higher achieving STUDENTS of the school. so to say that more money needs to be put into school more than it already is... obviously its not being taken advantage of by the kids who only go to school and don't participate in extra caricular activities.
i can guarantee u that the majority of the athletes at this school are the higher achiever students. GUARANTEED.
Dragonman wrote on Oct 12, 2009 4:19 PM:
play for keeps> You can twist it into that...You can discount her feelijngs by turning them into what makes you feel better about the situation. My daughter plays in the marchine band at MHS
c.b. businessman>This was no slip of the tongue. This constant behavior by this angry man needs to change. He needs to grow up and develop some character that is appropriate and beneficial to young men, so they have an understanding that striking out in anger is unacceptable. He needs to be a leader, not an out of control lunatic.
c.b. businessman>This was no slip of the tongue. This constant behavior by this angry man needs to change. He needs to grow up and develop some character that is appropriate and beneficial to young men, so they have an understanding that striking out in anger is unacceptable. He needs to be a leader, not an out of control lunatic.
c.b. businessman wrote on Oct 12, 2009 4:06 PM:
To A of O: So if a football coach volunteers, which most of them do, and you don't pay his salary then its okay for him to cuss? Gosh darn it now you've really got us confused.
Pure_brandi wrote on Oct 12, 2009 3:08 PM:
If that was the coach on the field in the public, think about what the boys get in the locker room after a bad day of practice. Its HIGHSCHOOL FOOTBALL for christ'sake. If he'd grow up, put on his big-boy briefs and control himself and be a great encouraging role-model (instead of an icon or feared-entity)...he would get a better performance out of his players to which he wouldnt need vulgar language or throwing clipboards. Imagine That
Leigh wrote on Oct 12, 2009 2:53 PM:
Thank you "Conservative". Finally someone who has the right perspective on high school sports. Couldn't have said it better.
AnneofOregon wrote on Oct 12, 2009 12:02 PM:
c.b. businessman wrote on Oct 12, 2009 10:11 AM:
ANNE OF ORE - What, a football coach that actually accidentally used a cuss word? Golly gosh darn, they should all be fired for doing such a thing.
Mr. Businessman: If you re-read my post I said nothing about being fired, so don't be such a Drama Queen. I said it was inappropriate. And it is. If you cannot control when you to drop an f-bomb or a g-dammit then you should not be a coach. My taxpayer dollars pay his salary and I don't want him cussing around the kids. Duh.
ANNE OF ORE - What, a football coach that actually accidentally used a cuss word? Golly gosh darn, they should all be fired for doing such a thing.
Mr. Businessman: If you re-read my post I said nothing about being fired, so don't be such a Drama Queen. I said it was inappropriate. And it is. If you cannot control when you to drop an f-bomb or a g-dammit then you should not be a coach. My taxpayer dollars pay his salary and I don't want him cussing around the kids. Duh.
amadeus wrote on Oct 12, 2009 10:33 AM:
you're ALL missing the point. Sports benefit so few compared to the potential of academics and trades that our tax money should NOT be spent on them. Just think of all the REAL education that is lost when our dwindling monies are flushed down the "sports toilet" ... no wonder the U.S. scores so poorly on math and science. no wonder Japan, India, China and the like all surpass our education systems. Get your priorities straight people.GOOOO TEAM!!!!
c.b. businessman wrote on Oct 12, 2009 10:11 AM:
ANNE OF ORE - What, a football coach that actually accidentally used a cuss word? Golly gosh darn, they should all be fired for doing such a thing.
play for keeps wrote on Oct 11, 2009 8:04 PM:
endpages
take your petty little complaints about a stupid little northbend-mhs vball game to a vball forum. no one cares. and quit acting like theres one person guilty of saying whatever was said. but since you did decide to post where u didn't belong i think u may be just like mrs trudy, a sore loser haha. get over it. and again, no one cares "mrs b" LOL
take your petty little complaints about a stupid little northbend-mhs vball game to a vball forum. no one cares. and quit acting like theres one person guilty of saying whatever was said. but since you did decide to post where u didn't belong i think u may be just like mrs trudy, a sore loser haha. get over it. and again, no one cares "mrs b" LOL
play for keeps wrote on Oct 11, 2009 8:01 PM:
to: "dragonman" and "truthteller"
truthteller first, football is a physical game, pushing and shoving is part of it, if you have a problem with that dont watch the game. and obviously nb didn't play a "phenomenal" game bc they didn't win, mhs made them look a hell of a lot better than they are. as for the "pushing and shoving" thats what the game of football consists of. go play soccer.
Dragonman, theres no reason to apologize to someone whos just bitter about getting beat.
truthteller first, football is a physical game, pushing and shoving is part of it, if you have a problem with that dont watch the game. and obviously nb didn't play a "phenomenal" game bc they didn't win, mhs made them look a hell of a lot better than they are. as for the "pushing and shoving" thats what the game of football consists of. go play soccer.
Dragonman, theres no reason to apologize to someone whos just bitter about getting beat.
Class of 72 wrote on Oct 11, 2009 2:01 PM:
Does anyone have video of what happened at the game? Send it to The World to post so we can all see what the fuss is about. We have a right to know.
conservativenotrepublican wrote on Oct 11, 2009 8:12 AM:
to all you former football players that think HS sports (FB especially) is all that and more:
You guys toss around "passion" as an excuse for this behavior.....
Well, I am very passionate about teaching in the classroom. But if I behaved the same way as this coach, I would be FIRED!!!!!!! Why is it ok to act like a total A-Hole on the field then? You guys think you're special or something? Newsflash...HS football "'aint all that great"....just a silly "macho" game where boys, unfortunately, learn about being "tough" and overcoming the "weak".
Stupid game.
You guys toss around "passion" as an excuse for this behavior.....
Well, I am very passionate about teaching in the classroom. But if I behaved the same way as this coach, I would be FIRED!!!!!!! Why is it ok to act like a total A-Hole on the field then? You guys think you're special or something? Newsflash...HS football "'aint all that great"....just a silly "macho" game where boys, unfortunately, learn about being "tough" and overcoming the "weak".
Stupid game.
Dragonman wrote on Oct 10, 2009 9:50 PM:
FLASH39;> Aaah, dude, just because we are not in high school today, does not mean we never were. I played football, wrestled, and played Baseball. We played hard, we gave it our all too.Ya dude, we do understand. Just like an immature kid, “Ah no one knows how we feel”, as if the rest of the world wasn’t even here, or ever had an experience. As for the lady that was offended, you spoiled brat, you should apologies to her. You also maybe got this backwards to guy. Most of us go to the games to support Marshfield; we go to care about this school that was here long before you. We were (are) fans of Marshfield, not just this year’s angry football team. If we just wanted entertained we could find many other activities. Much rather than last week huh, 1 point? You will never know what you can become until you learn to control your emotion, which is true power in a man. Being out of control isn’t entertaining; neither is watching people offend others. You men could be better than that if you want to. #39 LOL
orecoast007 wrote on Oct 10, 2009 8:57 PM:
I think Ms. Shaffer is just upset that GP High "LOST".........
truthtellerschitlan wrote on Oct 10, 2009 8:16 PM:
To Flash AND official~ I was one at the NB/Marshfield game this year. I have to say NB played a phenomenal game, and almost took the Pirates.... I was really hoping. However I did also witness extremely poor sportmenship by one of the "big" players, and there wasn't a call, shoving if I recall and NO retaliation by the Bulldogs. I agree w/Truthteller that some coaches (Abraham prime example) would NOT tolerate that behavior, but how are the boys suppose to behave if they have coaches that are out of line. Do you truly think one would go to the trouble of sending their local paper article to ours if it wasn't true.... Instead of making excuses change the attitudes. We (myself included) are very vocal fans and get heated, but being belligerent and disrespectful crosses those lines. We have kids that look up to the whole team, and I don't think the schools can afford to lose fans either. Can you???? Prime example Flashes comment back to the lady who wrote the article. When you grow up you will appreciate constructive criticism, I suggest you learn now.
TruthTeller wrote on Oct 10, 2009 7:17 PM:
To: Flash39, here's a flash for ya. She might not know what you go through, but any of the other players, even your opponents, probably put as much into it as you do. Ya think. And I'd have to say the ones that play their hardest, and have composure , sportsmanship and "everything" it takes to be an example for their team and the younger kids watching. Are the ones who will go somewhere. It won't stop at the high school level. Think about it. It's your life.
endpages wrote on Oct 10, 2009 8:25 AM:
Football is certainly a sport of its own. Yelling, screaming, swearing, jumping up and down by coaches is one way they get their boys pumped up to play strong and hit hard. I get that.
What I don't get is the TRUE poor sportsmanship I have witnessed on several occasions by one of the most key players on the MHS football team. He's a senior and very well known in this community. Most recently, his behavior at the NB vs. MHS girls' volleyball game held at MHS was atrocious and disgusting. He verbally assaulted the NB girls, yelling their names when they missed a ball, screamed insulting comments at them, talked down to them...this is not supporting the MHS team, this is abusing the opposing team. I don't think his football coaches would have admired his behavior on this particular day. Remember, kids, someone is always watching what you are doing and forming an opinion about what kind of person you are. I'm not impressed with this guy and I can guarantee high school will be where he peaks in life unless he turns it around really soon.
What I don't get is the TRUE poor sportsmanship I have witnessed on several occasions by one of the most key players on the MHS football team. He's a senior and very well known in this community. Most recently, his behavior at the NB vs. MHS girls' volleyball game held at MHS was atrocious and disgusting. He verbally assaulted the NB girls, yelling their names when they missed a ball, screamed insulting comments at them, talked down to them...this is not supporting the MHS team, this is abusing the opposing team. I don't think his football coaches would have admired his behavior on this particular day. Remember, kids, someone is always watching what you are doing and forming an opinion about what kind of person you are. I'm not impressed with this guy and I can guarantee high school will be where he peaks in life unless he turns it around really soon.
FLASH39 wrote on Oct 9, 2009 10:04 PM:
This article enrages me. I'm a player at MHS and sure we can get a little over emotional but you don't know what we do. We play our @$$es off and do our job to entertain all of you guys. Coach Line never crossed a line... he does his job like we do ours, he's emotional about the game. Every single one of the players/coaches are amped up and the adrenaline's flowing. For some woman who is butthurt about a coach showing emotion for a hard fought win against a good team needs go home and mind her own business. You don't understand how much time and practice and preparation we put into our schedule to be successful! We love playing for all the fans, but for a GP fan to take a shot at our coach like that is like taking a shot at the entire team and it's unacceptable. Why don't you strap on the pads and the helmet and go out there and do what we all do on a weekly basis.
bettelyoun wrote on Oct 9, 2009 8:33 PM:
As a referee in the area we do pentlize for unsprotsman like in any sport and to make me sound like i don't have a clue than u should be come an offical and try it yourself and see how u like being yelled at by the students and the parents when a call dosent go your way, and its a complety different view from the floor than the grand stands, and the sidelines
Dragonman wrote on Oct 9, 2009 5:39 PM:
There is a huge difference between participating in a sport, and having someone incite young men to acts of violence. ..Sportsmanship is putting 100% of your abilities on the line, and being proud of yourself for doing so. Then humbling yourself enough to know the man across from you is going to do so too, just like you, and he deserves the same respect you give yourself. Sportsmanship should teach young men how to deal with their emotions in a mature manner. Now think about the opposite of this. That’s what we are letting be taught to these young men> un-sportsmanship.
Con Queso wrote on Oct 9, 2009 12:25 PM:
Truthteller,
I neglected to mention to you, as I did to someone else on the same thread, that I've been to MANY MHS sporting events and have witnessed acts that are unsportsmanlike on behalf of the Pirates. I cringe every time that happens. I'm not saying that everyone at Marshfield is perfectly well behaved, just saying that there are a lot worse examples of sportsmanship out there than the Pirates or the "bald coach."
I neglected to mention to you, as I did to someone else on the same thread, that I've been to MANY MHS sporting events and have witnessed acts that are unsportsmanlike on behalf of the Pirates. I cringe every time that happens. I'm not saying that everyone at Marshfield is perfectly well behaved, just saying that there are a lot worse examples of sportsmanship out there than the Pirates or the "bald coach."
AnneofOregon wrote on Oct 9, 2009 11:31 AM:
Sorry folks ~ throwing headsets and clipboards does not indicate 'passion' it indicates a tantrum. Not acceptable behavior. And vulgar language is NEVER acceptable.
If the coach is truly guilty of either of these offenses as this lady claims, he was out of line, win or no win.
If the coach is truly guilty of either of these offenses as this lady claims, he was out of line, win or no win.
Q wrote on Oct 9, 2009 10:33 AM:
Truthteller -
Con Queso - Spanish for 'with cheese'.
I can imagine that Con Queso is either a cook or from hispanic ethnicity, whatever that means... :)
Or, it could be simply a person who likes cheese? Oh, the possibilities. Kind of like the possibility here that this woman in the editorial piece is a hypocrite? Well... not quite like that, but...
News Flash GP! No one likes a hypocrite or a sore loser...
Con Queso - Spanish for 'with cheese'.
I can imagine that Con Queso is either a cook or from hispanic ethnicity, whatever that means... :)
Or, it could be simply a person who likes cheese? Oh, the possibilities. Kind of like the possibility here that this woman in the editorial piece is a hypocrite? Well... not quite like that, but...
News Flash GP! No one likes a hypocrite or a sore loser...
TruthTeller wrote on Oct 9, 2009 9:20 AM:
To : Con Queso,)whatever that means) I agree I've seen the Dogs not be to cool either. But, and that's a big but, the Pirates are a little out to lunch if they don't think they have poor sportsmanship. I've have had the kids do and say mean crap, and a teacher just sit there at your games. And don't say I don't know because my son was coached by some of the best.(Example Abraham)and those actions were "not" tolerated.
c.b. businessman wrote on Oct 9, 2009 8:54 AM:
The hypocritical G.P lady accidentally forgot to mention that their fans and parents were booing our players and coaches while they leaving the field right after the game. I can only imagine who was leading their booing section.
Con Queso wrote on Oct 9, 2009 8:50 AM:
Truthteller,
Without being there I am not necessarily going to believe everything I hear from someone I've never met. I can believe some of the things she says, but I think she may be taking it over the top, as well. And, by the way, I've seen some REALLY blatant acts of poor sportsmanship from your 'Dogs. The bottom line is football is an emotional and very physical game. If a football coach doesn't get fired up -- within reason -- at a football game, I would have some questions.
Without being there I am not necessarily going to believe everything I hear from someone I've never met. I can believe some of the things she says, but I think she may be taking it over the top, as well. And, by the way, I've seen some REALLY blatant acts of poor sportsmanship from your 'Dogs. The bottom line is football is an emotional and very physical game. If a football coach doesn't get fired up -- within reason -- at a football game, I would have some questions.
Con Queso wrote on Oct 9, 2009 8:44 AM:
Bettelyoun,
I've been a Marshfield athlete and over the years have attended more athletic events than most, serving as an athlete, volunteer and/or spectator over the years. I have observed some poor sportsmanship over the past 17 years, but to say that the Pirates always show poor sportsmanship makes me wonder if you have any clue what you are talking about. Don't overgeneralize. It just makes you look silly.
I've been a Marshfield athlete and over the years have attended more athletic events than most, serving as an athlete, volunteer and/or spectator over the years. I have observed some poor sportsmanship over the past 17 years, but to say that the Pirates always show poor sportsmanship makes me wonder if you have any clue what you are talking about. Don't overgeneralize. It just makes you look silly.
laughinghard wrote on Oct 9, 2009 8:31 AM:
Ccnt believe this whole line of posting. To say Marshfield does not occasionally have poor sportsmanship is funny. Was it last year that the QB got ejected for "poor sportsmanship" Coach Line needs to set an example and obviously didnt. You can coach a sport and not make a "donkey" out of yourself. Is this the same person that went to the DO and threw a fit when he thought his postion was going to be cut last year? Lead by example you cant act like a ass in the real world either. No matter what the rsults are that you want.
bettelyoun wrote on Oct 8, 2009 10:37 PM:
marsfield as alwas had bad sportsmanship at all sporting events
TruthTeller wrote on Oct 8, 2009 7:30 PM:
This is from "Once a Bulldog, always a Bulldog" How embarrassing. I can't believe that you guys are justifing what he did or does. There are ways to motivate and get your team pumped up. It doesn't look like what you are doing is working this year. Try something else.
Q wrote on Oct 8, 2009 4:13 PM:
I would find this letter a bit more engaging if it was coming from the mouth of a Marshfield parent.
I will never forget the game between MHS and Sprague, well over a decade ago, at Autzen Stadium in Eugene. Cars were egged, parents were putting up their fists, all in the name of a little pigskin. Anyone who was there would never forget it, and would laugh at this attempt to slander this coach.
Obviously, this parent has never watched a game of any sport where a coach is involved. Coaches are often passionate, sometimes vulgar, and always are on the side of the team they coach.
It was people like that, in my younger years, that helped develop the CONFIDENCE, the PASSION, the AMBITION, and the DRIVE. Competition in life really IS everything, and the hard fact is, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. Perhaps, GP should take a lesson from MHS instead of appearing the sore loser.
Once a PIRATE always a PIRATE - RIGHT!
I will never forget the game between MHS and Sprague, well over a decade ago, at Autzen Stadium in Eugene. Cars were egged, parents were putting up their fists, all in the name of a little pigskin. Anyone who was there would never forget it, and would laugh at this attempt to slander this coach.
Obviously, this parent has never watched a game of any sport where a coach is involved. Coaches are often passionate, sometimes vulgar, and always are on the side of the team they coach.
It was people like that, in my younger years, that helped develop the CONFIDENCE, the PASSION, the AMBITION, and the DRIVE. Competition in life really IS everything, and the hard fact is, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. Perhaps, GP should take a lesson from MHS instead of appearing the sore loser.
Once a PIRATE always a PIRATE - RIGHT!
coosriver wrote on Oct 8, 2009 3:27 PM:
The coach learned his lessons well at the college he played for the worst sportsmanship in the PAC 10
play for keeps wrote on Oct 8, 2009 2:50 PM:
to: "the brutal truth",
no i do not believe the coach has any growing up to do whatsoever. i think the sore loser from gp is the one making a fool of herself and her town. it all comes down to winning and losing. if gp had won this game i highly doubt this letter would have ever been written. so to answer your question no, Trudy needs to get over herself as well as i think u do.
no i do not believe the coach has any growing up to do whatsoever. i think the sore loser from gp is the one making a fool of herself and her town. it all comes down to winning and losing. if gp had won this game i highly doubt this letter would have ever been written. so to answer your question no, Trudy needs to get over herself as well as i think u do.
Always A Pirate wrote on Oct 8, 2009 2:16 PM:
THANK YOU BALD COACH:
My son was a Pirate. In a way he still is. Once a Pirate - Always A Pirate. He was a part of this coaches squad. These young men loved being on this squad, and this coach always showed his love for his group. Not only did he get them motivated to perform on the field, he and the other coaches also motivated them for their future. I can tell you that several of coache's former players are doing wonderful things with their lives. I know of one young man that is a Unites States Marine, and my boy is serving in the Air Force. COACH; whatever you are doing, Keep on doing it.
My son was a Pirate. In a way he still is. Once a Pirate - Always A Pirate. He was a part of this coaches squad. These young men loved being on this squad, and this coach always showed his love for his group. Not only did he get them motivated to perform on the field, he and the other coaches also motivated them for their future. I can tell you that several of coache's former players are doing wonderful things with their lives. I know of one young man that is a Unites States Marine, and my boy is serving in the Air Force. COACH; whatever you are doing, Keep on doing it.
SOPH PARENT wrote on Oct 8, 2009 1:05 PM:
i was at the game. i saw a very emotional coach that is proud of how the boys respond to all of the hard work they do. i love the enthusiasm that the coaches have. i talked to some of the boys yesterday and they cannot believe that someone was offended. they said when the bus arrived at the school they were swore at and flashed by girls. also they were flashed during the game. maybe that is why the family left. Coach Line shows passion because he loves the game and the players. Thanks Coaches for showing the kids it is alright to be excited.
clairecat wrote on Oct 8, 2009 12:56 PM:
If I'm a player out there getting smashed and working my butt off, I pray I have a coach like that on my sidelines!
clairecat wrote on Oct 8, 2009 12:53 PM:
Wow. Another comment from someone who has never played the game. I'd like this lady put on a football uniform and see what comes out of her mouth when she gets knocked on her butt or is being chased and hit by lineman twice her size. Football is a violent and emotional game. The reality is these are kids playing a violent game. Emotions are going to be tested whether you are a coach or a player. All my coaches cussed and it never bothered me because they shared my passion for the game. Most people don't get it.
hey its me wrote on Oct 8, 2009 12:32 PM:
Everyone has to win, losing is not acceptable anymore. We put higher priorities on sports than education. We don't take sports away from kids that don't get good grades. We don't care if a kid can spell as long as he can catch and run with a football so we can win. Why is this letter such a suprise?
c.b. businessman wrote on Oct 8, 2009 12:12 PM:
Sour grapes from Grants Pass. The Pirates won that game, a well played and close one at that. We have an upset parent with a kid on their team, upset because we beat them fair and square.
54321 wrote on Oct 8, 2009 8:13 AM:
I don't care whose team you are on, there is no excuse for bad behavior. And I think the kids know it better than the coach.
m00npenny wrote on Oct 8, 2009 12:59 AM:
Our team, coaches and players have NEVER had any complaints like this before, ever! I am with Just Saying, sounds like a sore loser to me.
The Brutal Truth wrote on Oct 7, 2009 10:17 PM:
PLAY FOR KEEPS,
Shouldn't the coach who was acting out be the one who needs to grow up?
Shouldn't the coach who was acting out be the one who needs to grow up?
Con Queso wrote on Oct 7, 2009 4:52 PM:
I knew right away who she was referring to. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a coach celebrating with his players. As for one person's behavior on the other side of the field affecting the other team's focus, I think the blame is on GP at that point. I've played the game and anyone who has knows they should be focusing on the game and their own performance ... not the other team's sideline. I only wish that more coaches were that passionate.
play for keeps wrote on Oct 7, 2009 1:10 PM:
This is ridiculous...
What is it going to take to please people these days. Why can't players or coaches show emotion anymore? thats what sports are all about, being able to be passionate about something, show excitement and have fun. if you were to ask any member of our team we can tell you that the entire game was FUN. sorry if you were offended but it is obvious that you know nothing about the intensity of high school sports and football in particular. it is a very intense game where emotions run high. NOTHING that coach line did was unsportsmanlike, unacceptable or disrespectful towards grants pass.
Trudy, you need to get over the fact that you lost, because that is what it all comes down to, you are bitter because you got out played, out executed and MHS flat out had more passion and emotion throughout that game. do not blame your mis fortions on one of our coaches. GROW UP
What is it going to take to please people these days. Why can't players or coaches show emotion anymore? thats what sports are all about, being able to be passionate about something, show excitement and have fun. if you were to ask any member of our team we can tell you that the entire game was FUN. sorry if you were offended but it is obvious that you know nothing about the intensity of high school sports and football in particular. it is a very intense game where emotions run high. NOTHING that coach line did was unsportsmanlike, unacceptable or disrespectful towards grants pass.
Trudy, you need to get over the fact that you lost, because that is what it all comes down to, you are bitter because you got out played, out executed and MHS flat out had more passion and emotion throughout that game. do not blame your mis fortions on one of our coaches. GROW UP
player wrote on Oct 7, 2009 12:36 PM:
this is ridiculous. people need to realize how much time, effort, and sacrifice that players and coaches go through to compete in highschool athletics, football in particular. the reward to all of the sacrifice is winning, and winning is a very exciting thing. as a player who competed in this very game it is appaling to me that one of our coaches, and that would be coach line fyi, not bald guy, of all people is getting flack. he is one of the most passionate, genuine and dedicated people i have ever met. i, much like the rest of my team, would do anything for him because of how much he has done for us. beating gp was an accomplishment for everyone on our team and the excitement and emotion shown after the win was neither unsportsmanlike or uncalled for.
just saying wrote on Oct 7, 2009 10:38 AM:
Those who didn't attend the game who are taking the side of a Grants Pass fan without hearing from Pirate fans who dispute her claims shouldn't be so quick to jump on the Caveman bandwagon. Our coaches show enthusiasm and passion for the game but I have never seen this coaching staff get out of hand. Trudy just sounds like a sore loser to me.
Just saying...
Just saying...
childplease wrote on Oct 7, 2009 8:36 AM:
Hey, World newspaper, how can a local Coos Bay paper be so anti-Marshfield? When you got this letter I bet you started to salivate because of all the stirring it would cause. Unfortunately, the people who truly matter in this community really know the kind of passion Marshfield coaches bring to the table. It's unfortunate and just plain sad how some people confuse enthusiasm with unsportsmanship. How can you blame a 17 year old kid from getting excited for scoring the winning touchdown? Or blame a coach for actually COACHING and being excited when one of his players makes a GAME WINNING PLAY! I didn't see one "congratulations or job well done" from this newspaper when we beat a very good 6A Grants Pass team, who Marshfield has not beaten in 8 years! So go on haters, jump on the negative train and hate hate hate...after all you have nothing else to do.
Just An Observer wrote on Oct 6, 2009 9:24 PM:
What happened to sportsmanship and mature adult behavior by coaches? This low level of conduct is unacceptable and should result in immediate termination as well as making sure the players and coaches attend a meeting on what sportsmanship means. Win or lose, you play with class and carry yourself well...or at least you are supposed to!
reedsport wrote on Oct 6, 2009 6:05 PM:
Maybe it's because the team is so amped up from the LLOONNGG road trips to places like PORTLAND!!!
Bad choices of school resources.
Bad choices of school resources.
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