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Dragonman wrote on Oct 9, 2009 9:40 PM:
WOW still the same 4 or 5 of you. I believe you have convinced yourself.
George Soros wrote on Oct 8, 2009 11:08 AM:
How does Obama Plan To Pay For It ALL?
Tax and hurt seniors by taking $500 Billion from Medicare.
Tax and hurt the uninsured by forcing them to spend 20% of their pay and buy Government Run Healthcare
Tax and hurt those with private insurance by forcing them to taxes on their employer health care plan.
Tax and hurt seniors by taking $500 Billion from Medicare.
Tax and hurt the uninsured by forcing them to spend 20% of their pay and buy Government Run Healthcare
Tax and hurt those with private insurance by forcing them to taxes on their employer health care plan.
megapotamus wrote on Oct 8, 2009 9:48 AM:
Republicans have come up with plans, look to Massachusetts who is going bankrupt from "State run Health Care"
Any fair-minded review of what happened in Massachusetts would show that Gov. Romney succeeded in expanding access but they failed at containing costs.
Any fair-minded review of what happened in Massachusetts would show that Gov. Romney succeeded in expanding access but they failed at containing costs.
Cmdr wrote on Oct 8, 2009 8:29 AM:
If real republicans want to keep the government out of things like health care they need to do something to demonstrate they are really serious. Maybe advocate shutting down the existing socialist health care programs like VA Hospitals and Medicare! We need legislation to allow these people to opt out of the VA program, Medicare and Social Security, it would then be easy to count them and we would see who is serious and who is just full of it.
Get those “Shut down the Socialist VA and Medicare” banners made and show up at those tea bagger meetings. I’ll bet I’ll never see a sea of “close VA socialist hospital” banners on the nightly news, especially not the Fox no news channel.
Right wingers, prove me wrong or prove to the rest of us that your full of it!
Get those “Shut down the Socialist VA and Medicare” banners made and show up at those tea bagger meetings. I’ll bet I’ll never see a sea of “close VA socialist hospital” banners on the nightly news, especially not the Fox no news channel.
Right wingers, prove me wrong or prove to the rest of us that your full of it!
Tanner Hamlett wrote on Oct 7, 2009 2:12 PM:
Mr. Hopkins,
I am so glad that you came along to point out to me that my opinions are being controlled by a pharamaceutical/Republican conspiracy, and that I could not possibly have thought for myself without the Democrat/Government's help.
In fact, the reason I am against government intrusion is because of the pharmaceutical and Republican intrusion already present in my mind!
Thank you for pointing this out!
Of course, Democrat politicians NEVER serve special interests, nor would a Democrat politican EVER listen to a lobbyist.
Thank you, O Brave leader, for pointing ou the error of my ways!
I am so glad that you came along to point out to me that my opinions are being controlled by a pharamaceutical/Republican conspiracy, and that I could not possibly have thought for myself without the Democrat/Government's help.
In fact, the reason I am against government intrusion is because of the pharmaceutical and Republican intrusion already present in my mind!
Thank you for pointing this out!
Of course, Democrat politicians NEVER serve special interests, nor would a Democrat politican EVER listen to a lobbyist.
Thank you, O Brave leader, for pointing ou the error of my ways!
viva la 2010 wrote on Oct 7, 2009 10:20 AM:
Dear Readers, this is a FACT:
There was no ID verification in ANY legislation, never has been, never will be.
Don't ask, don't tell!!
There was no ID verification in ANY legislation, never has been, never will be.
Don't ask, don't tell!!
metoo! wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:45 AM:
Oh Brave New World.
People will never agree. There are too many who do not care enough to listen or vote. And the ones in power don't listen to anyone but themselves. What a mess.
People will never agree. There are too many who do not care enough to listen or vote. And the ones in power don't listen to anyone but themselves. What a mess.
just saying wrote on Oct 5, 2009 11:24 AM:
TAGURIT -
re: Illegal immigrants (not allowed), requirements to change coverage (inducement maybe, but no requirements), and proposed healthcare legislation - from FactCheck.org
http://factcheck.org/2009/09/obamas-health-care-speech/
re: Illegal immigrants (not allowed), requirements to change coverage (inducement maybe, but no requirements), and proposed healthcare legislation - from FactCheck.org
http://factcheck.org/2009/09/obamas-health-care-speech/
Tag Urit wrote on Oct 5, 2009 6:47 AM:
Obama (Lie) FALSE CLAIM: “If you come to me with a serious set of proposals, I will be there to listen. My door is always open.”
FACT: The Hill reported, that the President has not met with House Republicans since April, and when Republican Leaders asked for a meeting to discuss health care in a May 14 letter, the President ignored the request. The Politico reported on the President’s response on June 5, saying, “he makes no mention of the request to meet in the letter, which he signs off by stating, “Thank you again for sharing your thoughts with me and I look forward to further discussions on this critically important issue.” But those “further discussions” simply didn’t happen. The facts are clear: Blame for the lack of bipartisanship in the current health care debate lies squarely at the feet of Washington Democrats.
FACT: The Hill reported, that the President has not met with House Republicans since April, and when Republican Leaders asked for a meeting to discuss health care in a May 14 letter, the President ignored the request. The Politico reported on the President’s response on June 5, saying, “he makes no mention of the request to meet in the letter, which he signs off by stating, “Thank you again for sharing your thoughts with me and I look forward to further discussions on this critically important issue.” But those “further discussions” simply didn’t happen. The facts are clear: Blame for the lack of bipartisanship in the current health care debate lies squarely at the feet of Washington Democrats.
Tag Urit wrote on Oct 5, 2009 6:45 AM:
Obama (Lie) FALSE CLAIM: “…Nothing in this plan will require you or your employer to change the coverage or the doctor you have. Let me repeat this: nothing in our plan requires you to change what you have.”
FACT: This marked an important change in the President’s language last night. He used to say, “If you like your health-care plan, you keep your health-care plan.” By now using the word “require,” the President’s admitting that they can’t guarantee Americans will keep their health plan. After both the Associated Press, ABC News and others have thoroughly debunked this claim, it’s not surprising the White House has made this shift. But the point is that no one knows for sure how many employers will drop their coverage altogether if their plan goes into effect. Experts at the Lewin Group estimate the number could be more than 100 million Americans. And $500 billion in Medicare cuts will obviously reduce the quality of care America’s seniors receive.
FACT: This marked an important change in the President’s language last night. He used to say, “If you like your health-care plan, you keep your health-care plan.” By now using the word “require,” the President’s admitting that they can’t guarantee Americans will keep their health plan. After both the Associated Press, ABC News and others have thoroughly debunked this claim, it’s not surprising the White House has made this shift. But the point is that no one knows for sure how many employers will drop their coverage altogether if their plan goes into effect. Experts at the Lewin Group estimate the number could be more than 100 million Americans. And $500 billion in Medicare cuts will obviously reduce the quality of care America’s seniors receive.
Tag Urit wrote on Oct 5, 2009 6:44 AM:
Obama (Lie) FALSE CLAIM: “Now, there are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms I am proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.”
FACT: The non-partisan Congressional Research Service confirms in a report that there is no mechanism included in the bill to verify that individuals are U.S. citizens or legal immigrants before they receive government benefits. Furthermore, Republicans offered two amendments in the Ways and Means, and Energy and Commerce Committees that were rejected by Democrats. The first would have prevented illegal immigrants from being automatically enrolled into Medicaid and the second would have required better screening for applicants for federally-subsidized health care to ensure they are actually citizens or legal immigrants.
FACT: The non-partisan Congressional Research Service confirms in a report that there is no mechanism included in the bill to verify that individuals are U.S. citizens or legal immigrants before they receive government benefits. Furthermore, Republicans offered two amendments in the Ways and Means, and Energy and Commerce Committees that were rejected by Democrats. The first would have prevented illegal immigrants from being automatically enrolled into Medicaid and the second would have required better screening for applicants for federally-subsidized health care to ensure they are actually citizens or legal immigrants.
rcflyer wrote on Oct 4, 2009 9:04 AM:
Reform? the american people deserve better, of course they do, why they allready have acorn they could also have a $3800. fine which i doubt alot could not pay or could be thrown into jail.gee this sounds real good to me. and obama failing yes it appears he is starting to crack and funny part is it's self inflicked.it seems that every time i now turn on the t.v. it's obama hour trying for dammage control. i'm sick of seeing him it's like watching howdy doody time.
viva la 2010 wrote on Oct 3, 2009 2:14 PM:
The American people are too often offered two extremes--government-run health care with higher taxes or letting the ithe American people are too often offered two extremes--government-run health care with higher taxes or letting the insurance companies operate without rules.nsurance companies operate without rules. Those are not the right ways and these are:
1.Take action to allow states to experiment with better ways of reaching the nation's health coverage goals rather than imposing a national plan on states and families.
2.Reform the tax treatment of health insurance to make it more equitable and efficient for taxpaying families.
3.Refocus employment-based coverage to promote family control and choice rather than mandating employers to offer government-defined coverage.
4.Use incentives and perhaps automatic enrollment in private plans, not government mandates, to foster wider coverage.
5.Create a level playing field of competing private plans and real choice, and do not allow a "public plan" to undermine your other commitments to Americans.
6.Be bipartisan-this is the main reason that America is in the economic shape it is; one side wants to be the winner!
1.Take action to allow states to experiment with better ways of reaching the nation's health coverage goals rather than imposing a national plan on states and families.
2.Reform the tax treatment of health insurance to make it more equitable and efficient for taxpaying families.
3.Refocus employment-based coverage to promote family control and choice rather than mandating employers to offer government-defined coverage.
4.Use incentives and perhaps automatic enrollment in private plans, not government mandates, to foster wider coverage.
5.Create a level playing field of competing private plans and real choice, and do not allow a "public plan" to undermine your other commitments to Americans.
6.Be bipartisan-this is the main reason that America is in the economic shape it is; one side wants to be the winner!
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