City might have legal right to cut sewer service

By Jessica Musicar, Staff Writer
Wednesday, September 30, 2009 | 26 comment(s)

Water Board says the tribe is paying for its sewer service

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The Coquille Tribe doesn’t think the city can do it.

But a representative of the Oregon Department of Environmental Quality says the city of North Bend, in its lawsuit against the tribe, just might be able to legally shut off sewer services to The Mill Casino-Hotel.

Andy Ullrich, an environmental engineer with DEQ, said that according to the Public Utilities Commission, if the city allows for service termination through its charter, then it can cut off the tribal property’s sewage treatment access.

“We just don’t have any jurisdiction on it. It’s a local matter,” Ullrich said.

Regarding whether that applies to a sovereign nation such as the Coquilles, a regional director of the U.S. Bureau of Indian Affairs was mum.

“We would not want to comment on that,” said Stanley Speaks, the BIA’s regional director of the northwest regional office.

Rob Schab, the manager of the Coos Bay-North Bend Water Board, said his agency acts as the cities’ billing and collecting agent, including for North Bend’s waste water and storm water services. It is collecting the fee from tribal properties that then goes to the city of North Bend.

At this point, the tribe is up-to-date on its payments, he said. Schab added that the tribe is paying sewer fees at a rate that is standard for a business of its size.

Earlier this week, the city filed a motion for a preliminary injunction in a breach of contract lawsuit against the tribe, asking it to pay at least $140,993 of $639,000 in in-lieu of tax payments for the fiscal year. Doing so would prevent layoffs, said City Administrator Jan Willis. If the tribe doesn’t pay, the city wants the court’s permission to stop providing police, fire and sewer services during litigation.

According to the Agreement for Municipal Services contract, the city agreed to provide The Mill property with sanitary and storm sewer services under the provisions of its city ordinances. In exchange, CEDCO and/or the tribe agreed to pay the city all connection and user charges for sanitary and storm sewer services.

The tribe contends “shutting off any services would be a violation of federal law and would potentially subject the City to substantial liability.” The tribe did not elaborate on what law would be violated. It also stated the Tribe and CEDCO expect all services will be provided while the matter is resolved.

If they can’t settle the dispute, the tribe could build its own sewer treatment facility. Judy Smith, a public affairs officer for the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, said that while her agency has no authority over the shut-off issue, it could help with a long-term solution if the tribe doesn’t want services from the city.

“We would work with them to issue a permit for their own facility that they would develop,” Smith said.

But that could take years.

As to police and fire services, North Bend Fire Chief Scott Graham said he doesn’t know how his department will handle emergency calls at The Mill if services are cut.

“We’ve always responded to The Mill Casino. And until we are basically told differently, we’re going to continue to respond,” Graham said.

Representatives from the city of Coos Bay and the Charleston Rural Fire Protection District said they’ve had no discussions with the tribe or requests for emergency coverage.

Rodger Craddock, Coos Bay’s interim city manager, who normally serves as the city police chief, said if a request came down the pipeline, providing services to the tribe would be a city council decision.

Charleston’s assistant fire chief, Dave MacManiman, said he doesn’t believe his fire department will receive any inquiries, because The Mill is too far from his district. Plus, Charleston doesn’t have the manpower or equipment to cover a facility of that size.

“If they had a fire there, you would have to have a ladder truck. We don’t have one of those,” MacManiman said.
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northbender wrote on Oct 8, 2009 9:01 AM:

Unbelievable!! People who speak without proper knowledge! Why not check out what the tribe has done for the tribe, and for the area! Also, the casino is run by the Native American's, but slots are leased so they can change them out for player favorites.

rianza wrote on Oct 7, 2009 10:28 AM:

Dear Pig Nuts,

FYI - the economy changed drastically for ALL of us - not just the Mill.

Suggestion: go run a business for yourself for a few years. I suspect the experience may influence future editorial comment about how others should run theirs.

fairplay wrote on Oct 5, 2009 1:36 PM:

To 1313....I have heard that Bally in Nevada has an interest in the Casino, and is the supplier of the slots. I don't know for sure if this is true, but I suspect it is.

1313 wrote on Oct 3, 2009 1:27 PM:

Does anyone know who or what is backing the Indians for THE MILL CASINO, it certainly isn't all INDIAN run. They are in with someone or some business that isn't INDIAN, that is probably actually running everything, and getting Indian benefits...and I have heard the money from The Mill isn't all or much going to Indians.

fairplay wrote on Oct 3, 2009 11:46 AM:

Shame on the Tribe.
Renogotiate the fees? Probably a good idea. Everything is costing more, so perhaps their fees should be increased?

Dragonman wrote on Oct 2, 2009 10:09 PM:

You know what, we should all go to the mill to use the bathroom. Thats all, just use the bathroom. No gambeling, just flush flush. Don't forget to double flush, and wash your hands. If you leave the water running, oh well. LOL. Let them get a huge bill before the shut off happens. And then after it's shut off... We should all go to the mill to use the bathroom.

Oggie Doggie wrote on Oct 2, 2009 5:36 PM:

Natives are always crying "Discrimination!" Well, the city would cut my off service - I expect equal treatment for the "Sovereign Nation".

Pig Nuts wrote on Oct 2, 2009 4:00 PM:

Dan,

Surely the tribe isn't feeling that they need to call a meeting of the minds in order to ask if they could kindly pay the city more money.

They made a standing commitment in order to place a gambling establishment within a predominately christian community.

The city has based their budget upon the regular payment of that commitment.

The connection lies between the position the tribe placed themselves in by taking on too much debt & the tribe wanting the citizens to pay for their indiscretions by not fulfilling their agreement.

The solutions are few. Pay down the debt. Liquidate assets pay down debt. File some form of bankruptcy which will require liquidating assets & paying down debt. Or be upfront with the city & say hey, we will pay, just say we don't owe so we can get a 2 for 1 on the balance sheet, which will drop the debt service ratio.

Unless of course you are circling the drain with the bottom about to fall out!

Pig Nuts wrote on Oct 2, 2009 3:59 PM:

Solution is simple, play by the same set of rules that everyone else plays by.

If the tribe looses its casino as a result there will be another corporation that will be happy to step in & pay their taxes.

The tribes issues are not the issues of North Bend.

Maybe the tribe will have to seek the aid of a neighboring tribe?

If you are truly "Indian" that is the way of your people. You help one another.

dan milburn wrote on Oct 2, 2009 12:36 AM:

Pig nuts:
I respect your opinion and realise you have a pretty good handle on knowledge of some of the tribes investments but I don'T understand the connections from one to another or how it pertains to the current " In lieu of taxes services contract". What does one have to do with the other?
The current contract needs to be reivisited in order to determine if what is valid today verses 15-years ago. Its a simple process by which I'm sure many reasonable people - like yourself- may disagree; however, who signs a contract which doesn't allow for situational changes? All I am suggesting is that the real issues at hand be addressed fully with due consideration to all the party's interests involved. Since when does truth and disclosure harm the best interests of the community?

loventhecoast wrote on Oct 1, 2009 10:31 AM:

I dont think anyone 'hates' the Indians... i think that some of us are just tired of the 'special' treatment that they get/require/request. The casino hurt a few businesses in town (hotels and restaurants) and its sad to see a town like this be hurt. Now, i dont hate Indians... that would mean that i hate my mother - so please dont say i hate them, i just feel that people are people and we should all work together to make this town survive.

Pig Nuts wrote on Oct 1, 2009 10:15 AM:

Milburn, wrong!

15 years ago the S&P 500 was 462 today it is at 1037. More than double when they made the agreement.

For 14 years they had no problem paying the set percentage with no increase.

The economy changed dramatically after the tribe buried themselves in debt!

The Plank House, Whitecaps Lounge, Warehouse 101, etc... Were all wise investments?

This was all done in the best interest of the members?

No! It was self serving & greed. It did nothing to contribute to the sustainability of the tribe!

Why should we pay for the mistakes of the tribe?

Pay down your debt. Sell some assets if need be. Heritage Place, RV Park, Cranberries, ORCA, 50 acre Home Depot DEBACLE!

The irresponsible leadership of the tribe has jeopardized the economic stability of this community.

We should not be paying for your mistakes or the CEO's of lending institutions!

The Tribe is asking for what equates to a bailout.

ENOUGH OF PRIVATIZED

PROFITS & SOCIALIZED RISK!

Steve Pickering wrote on Oct 1, 2009 9:09 AM:

JS,

Hook Em' said County, not City.

CBRezident wrote on Oct 1, 2009 9:07 AM:

The Tribe has placed the money in a holding account,The Tribe is paying their water/sewer bill.While the Tribe pays for city services are they ever recognized for the services that they provide to the city free of charge.Tribal police respond to NB dispatch,tsunami warnings and emergency response facilities,easments on waterfront developments and the 150,000.in grants made to fund city government projects in which the mayor of NorthBend sits as a member of the Fund board.this is above what the Tribe pays for the in liew of taxes.not to mention the 190,000.in standard property taxes that the tribe pays.maybe if the tribe could negotiate with the city then they would be able to hire back some of the people that they had to let go.7% vs 3.

js wrote on Oct 1, 2009 8:23 AM:

Hook em - the only tax collected from Bandon Dunes is the 1% State Occupancy tax. They are outside the city limits and therefore not required to collect the city occupancy tax.

hook em in the mouth wrote on Oct 1, 2009 5:25 AM:

It would be interesting to see how much money the Tribe has contributed to the City of North Bend during the past 15 years. What did the city do with the extra tax dollars collected? How much would the city have received if the property was still a closed lumber mill?The latest tactic by the city is about as fair to the Tribe as keeping a foul hooked salmon. Who is the single largest contributor to the cities income include tax and donations? Does anyone know the facts about the amount of tax that Bandon Dunes Pays? How much lodging tax does the county collect from Bandon Dunes? The city should at least be honest in their reporting and fair in negotiations.

hiluix wrote on Sep 30, 2009 5:39 PM:

If they are current on the sewer payment what right does North Bend have to shut off the sewer services because of a hotel tax non payment ? Why does the North Bend city council hate Indians ?

pril wrote on Sep 30, 2009 4:47 PM:

IIRC, there is no way to "shut off" or "disconnect" sewer service. If you don't pay your bill, the city can put a lien on your property. That's what I was told when I lived in North Bend, by the water board.

fairplay wrote on Sep 30, 2009 3:07 PM:

From most everyone that I've talked with, this is VERY BAD PUBLICITY for THE MILL and the TRIBE. Doesn't seem like good business? I think whoever represents the Tribe with these decisions, has made a SERIOUS MISTAKE. The longer and more complicated this becomes, the more damaging it will be for them.

dan milburn wrote on Sep 30, 2009 2:26 PM:

May I suggest something? Instead of the court ruling "pay or no pay" - or "services or no serivices" - put the money into an escrow account and order arbitration of the contract. This is the real issue isn't it? The tribe should "modify" the original contract and submit it for approval. The money accumulates but the city can't have it unless it cooperates. Putting the money into escrow keeps the tribe from defaulting and shows good faith. The city and the tribe need a new contract. The old one is 15-years old and the whole economy has changed dramaticaly. The obvious take on the situation is that the city is more concerned with its own budget problems than negotiating a revised fair and equitable contract. They should be partners not adversaries. Who signs a contract that doesn't expire at some point and allow for situational changes?

tsunami wrote on Sep 30, 2009 1:49 PM:

i think the psuedo indians are threatening and blowing smoke. they just want the best without paying. none of the rest of us would get away with it. what's so special about the psuedo indians? we're all responsible for our debts and agreements. i dont know what their up to, but i think it's not good for any of the rest of north bend.

Hook Em in the mouth wrote on Sep 30, 2009 1:22 PM:

It appears the city of North Bend is negotiating with Tribe in a similar manner and with the same results as the joint council meetings with the city of Coos Bay . The efforts of Coos Bay proposed and made efforts to form a joint council meeting in an effort to improve relations between the two cities. When C.B. would not impose an increase tax, the city of N.B. ended all future joint meetings. I suspect this is how negotiations with the Tribe is going.

loventhecoast wrote on Sep 30, 2009 1:10 PM:

If i did not pay MY bill - they would cut me off... i say treat them as an equal... no pay...no flush.
Laws are laws...

Hook Em in the mouth wrote on Sep 30, 2009 12:59 PM:

The Mill Casino paid 25K to the City of N.B. for the privilege of hooking up sewer service for their new hotel. If the city cuts service do they get their money back?

CB Lifer wrote on Sep 30, 2009 12:18 PM:

I think that this is beyond ridiculous. Too many "exceptions" for the tribes as it is. I give up.

Just An Observer wrote on Sep 30, 2009 10:45 AM:

Looks like the sewer bill is being paid on time so no disconnection is justified. If the City of North Bend wants to decline accepting the money collected from the CB-NB Water Board, that's on them.


As for the rest of the services (police, fire), let the Indians use their own police and they can contract out for fire coverage and then the district that takes on that responsibility will hopefully get paid instead of stiffed. The NBFD would still be available as per mutual aid but they would no longer be the primary provider of fire service.


This is what I get from reading the article. Your mileage may vary.


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