Speed trap label doesn't bother Reedsport police

By Alex Powers, Reedsport Staff Writer
Monday, September 14, 2009 | 29 comment(s)

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REEDSPORT — Drivers for years have called Reedsport a speed trap.

And that’s OK, said Reedsport Police Chief Shawn Essex, if it makes them slow down.

On the busiest days, 6,400 vehicles pass through the northern city limits of Reedsport on U.S. Highway 101. As many as 9,500 pass through the western city limits, and about 6,000 through the eastern limits on Highway 38, according to ODOT traffic statistics from 2007.

That year in downtown, at the intersection of 101 and 20th Street, 12,900 vehicles were recorded in a 24-hour period.

Reedsport is at the confluence of two highways, and hosts many drivers, said Oregon Department of Transportation spokesman Dave Thompson.

“When they get into town, they tend to keep doing highway speeds,” said Reedsport officer Matt Smart.

So, Reedsport officers are ready.

The department’s 10 officers cited about 155 drivers for speeding in August and 167 in July. It was 116 in June.

According to Reedsport Municipal Court Clerk Jeanne Plagmann, the vast majority of tickets are issued to people exceeding the speed limit.

“I’d say 75 percent,” Plagmann said.

The second most common violation is for unlawful possession of less than one ounce of marijuana.

Reedsport attempted in previous years to slow traffic with an electronic speed sign.

“There are places that catch you off guard,” Essex said. “This is not one of them.”

Many drivers are from out of area, Essex said, and simply may not know that Reedsport’s officers enforce its traffic laws.

Essex said he received a letter from a man on the East Coast that accused the department of picking on out-of-state drivers.

“It’s not just out-of-staters,” he said.

There are two or three officers on shift at any time, Smart said.

Earlier this summer, the city council approved creation of a traffic enforcement officer position. The position will be self-sufficient — funded by revenue from traffic citations, Essex said — and charged with full-time road patrol, enforcing traffic violations and surveying the flow of local traffic for department statistics.

Essex said he does not expect the number of speeding citations to change dramatically with the addition of a traffic cop.

“We expect him to be out there enforcing traffic justly,” Essex said.

The department’s permanent traffic patrol position, when filled, will make police more visible on Reedsport roadways, Essex said.

“Some worry about the ‘speed trap’ moniker,” he said. “Of all the things people (potentially) could be saying about our police department, that is not a bad one.”
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coosbayite wrote on Sep 21, 2009 2:39 PM:

The speed is 25 mph in old town and that isn't that much of an area. 101 is 30, I think, and it should at least be 35. Somehow though, Reedsport has been able to keep it below other town standards. They actually entrap the speeders with the lower than normal speeds just so they can get the ticket money. They never got any from me nor, will they. Reedsport has always been like one of those Texas towns we keep hearing about.

kctrvlr wrote on Sep 21, 2009 12:25 PM:

i seem to remember a u s supreme court decision that said that a police department cannot legally use the revenue from policing as a means of funding positions within thier respective departments , because it creates a conflict of interest . i guess reedsport police are unaware of thier need to follow the laws that they reputedly enforce.

firefly wrote on Sep 21, 2009 4:40 AM:

I think the public should be able to write the cops tickets and we get the money. I see the police break the speed limit everyday but if the public goes 3 miles over god for bid. Go to court the public loses to the cop. I think we all should remember this when they want to hire more. Just remember you can be robbed and as long as your a block from the highway the police won't get em. Not public safety its public harassment.

12345 wrote on Sep 18, 2009 11:22 AM:

I think it's great that Reedsport is a speed trap. After a good long trip to Eugene, it's nice to have that reminder to slow down on the last leg before Coos Bay. They also need that revenue, and the fact of the matter is, if you speed, you deserve a ticket. The signs are posted clearly.

I have to admit that I did receive a ticket from a police officer in Reedsport some time back. I wasn't much over the speed limit, but I was breaking the law by going over it. I paid my ticket and now I slow down in Reedsport. It would be nice if some of the other coastal towns would start doing the same. A lot of people fly down the roads through Coos Bay and North Bend every day...

greyoxide wrote on Sep 16, 2009 3:54 PM:

I would like to see them tighten down on Motor Homes and the very large towed RV's.

I was pulled over a while back because I switched lanes without giving the guy behind me enough room, I deserved it and I'm glad for the reminder. However in the last week a have almost been hit twice by motor coaches in Reedsport. One ran a red light and almost wiped me out, fortunately I was able to lock up my brakes in order to let him by. Last week on Friday, a man driving an RV next to me decided that he needed to be in my lane, and just wandered over without even looking in his mirror or over his shoulder. I know this because I was watching his mirror and all I could see was the lapdog's head.

I am glad that the police are so commited to our safety. However I think that low grade speeders are far less dangerous than the apartment building sized R.V.'S that straddle the middle lane on turns, and obliterate lines of sight in intersections.

mom of 2 wrote on Sep 16, 2009 11:41 AM:

Okay...the theory of them pulling over cars that they "don't recognize" is such bs if that was the truth then every time a Reedsport resident got a new car they would be pulled over, so as you can see that is obviously not a probably reason...I listen to the police scanner daily and they pull EVERYONE over residents and non residents...so stop feeling like they pick on you just because your car is unfamiliar...we have had 3 different cars in the last 4 years and NEVER once did we get pulled over for having an unfamiliar car...and have never been pulled over in the over 30 years we have lived here...and you ask "why?" that is because we obey the traffic laws and there is no reason to pull over our car. So give em a brake and slow down, it does make less work for everyone involved!

Local Lady wrote on Sep 16, 2009 11:03 AM:

Looks to me like people are continuing to find more frivolous things to complain about. It's simple common sense people. Either go the speed limit or you're gonna be in trouble. What is so hard to understand?

Just An Observer wrote on Sep 15, 2009 9:11 PM:

Write a ticket to a tourist and you won't see that tourist or his friends coming here to the Appalachia Of The West. Write a ticket to a local and guarantee a NO vote on Election Day. It would be different if the tickets were really about public safety instead of revenue enhancement. We the people who live here know the score.


Two MPH over the limit is just plain stupid. 20 MPH over the limit is justified. However the cops wish to enforce the law will dictate how the public responds to law enforcement and government. So far we have gotten a lot of ticked off people and plenty of bad cop-no donut stories, so keep on with what you cops and city councils are doing until this area is a series of ghost towns.

Koos Bayanian wrote on Sep 15, 2009 3:39 PM:

There are three towns on the southern Oregon Coast that are considered "Speed Traps". Gardiner, Reedsport, & Port Orford. I have known this for years and slow down for every town or speed sign. And it's not just Reedsport who writes tickets. The logic is there for people to see whether a local or out of state resident...Just ask yourself who is going to show up to contest the ticket in court.

1313 wrote on Sep 15, 2009 12:36 PM:

KIKILONGBEAN,, exact same thing happened to my son coming from Seattle in the middle of the night, with NO other cars around, only he got a ticket. For just a few miles over speed.

enforce wrote on Sep 15, 2009 12:15 PM:

Good job Reedsport P.D. at least your paying your way .More than I can say for North Bend P.D they have not got the time after there lenghty coffee breaks on Newmark.

m00npenny wrote on Sep 15, 2009 11:51 AM:

So?
I dont see the problem here. You speed = you get a ticket. You dont speed = you dont get a ticket. Why is it that people feel they are special and can stretch the limits for themselves? If it says 25 MPH, then you dont get to do 30 MPH. If you do and you get caught, you get a ticket. So Simple yet ppl are So Stupid.

oliver woods wrote on Sep 15, 2009 10:54 AM:

What's the rush, Mr. E. The speed limits are as they should be, and if the extra 5-10mph will get you to work on time. Leave home earlier.
I, too, have over twenty years of similar experience and the whole issue is so simple as to not worry about the status quo. It works!
Static, why don't you aske the question of the Chief instead of "wondering?"
Essex is a nice guy and will give you a heads up answer.

The Brutal Truth wrote on Sep 15, 2009 10:31 AM:

Its pretty tough to "collect revenue" from you if they can't write you a ticket for anything.

They can't write you a speeding ticket unless you're speeding.

See where I'm going with this?

Keen wrote on Sep 15, 2009 10:22 AM:

Ah yes, we were stopped in Reedsport going 2 mph over the speed limit. It was then that we decided not to ever stop and spend any money in that town. If that's ok with the population there then they don't deserve a dime of my money. No McDonald's stops, no nothing from me.

Make sure you slow down there because they don't deserve any money from the extortion they're trying to pull.

I wonder if they're happy with their reputation as the most UNFRIENDLY town on the Oregon coast? Congratulations to them. Hope it bankrupts them.

villarios wrote on Sep 15, 2009 9:36 AM:

Speed is not the issue, it's public unions and armed revenue thugs. The police chief's own admission of a self-supported position is damning and should be treated as such. The chief should tarred and feathered and shipped back to Communist/ACORN HQ. Enough of this attitude that Americans be treated as nothing more . It's time to remember the Sons of Liberty. The brave men of the American Revolution would never have dreamt of the alphabet (TSA,FBI, et al) police state in which we now live. Do they keep us safe from terrorists? No. Do they make life miserable as possible for taxpayers? Yes! Crime is crime, but disgusting gutter snipes in uniform, sucking up money from public trough, piling up PERS accounts beyond belief while the rest of us will be hauled off into debtors prison, should be ended while we still have a chance.

Richard Tawking wrote on Sep 15, 2009 6:13 AM:

Leave it to a state boobacrat to state the obvious with authority!! Did you really need a statement from ODOT's spokesman Dave Thompson to figure out the highway "hosts many drivers"?

Kyfus wrote on Sep 15, 2009 2:33 AM:

Orecoastoo7 Why do you assume he is a speeder? Please explain how having a reduced speed and then just a short ways away having another not a speed trap? Why not just have the slower speed on the first one and then if needs be have another one of the same speed incase people missed the first one? I Would also say that the fact most people are not from there that they do not know of this wierd and tricky way of "slowing people down" so why not give them a warning? The warning goes into the computer and if they get pulled over again for speeding they then get a ticket. I remember growing up most Officers gave warnings but these days you almost never get a warning. So everything points to a money making scheme and not a way to slow people down.

STATIC wrote on Sep 14, 2009 11:19 PM:

I would like to know why Reedsport PD, at any time of the given day or evening, parks in their patrol cars and sit chatting to one another? You wouldn't believe how many people speed through town while these officers sit parked and talking to one another.

I counted multiple officers on last Friday evening. It only takes a few minutes to drive the complete length of Reedsport. In that time, I counted so many patrol cars either cruising or sitting idle chatting to each other. Why does a town of approximately 4100 people need so many cops on at one time?

Why aren't taxpayers concerned about this?

Coquillian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 5:04 PM:

Oregon has slower speed limits than say California and Washington, why don't the out of town drivers read the signs? Pretty simple. Oh, and a traffic officer frees the others io fight crime, what a novel idea.

Mr E wrote on Sep 14, 2009 3:23 PM:

Oh, and don't give us the line they they are "keeping us safe." I have some rather extensive experience studying crash statistics, studying highway design (and, in some cases, designing highways), and police in a place like Reedsport are generating revenue, not writing tickets for the public good. I'm sorry, but considering the lack of congestion in the community, the wide highways (with plenty of pedestrian signage and facilities), and Highway 101 (as an example) could easily see a 5 MPH speed limit increase with no ill effects (except fewer tickets would be written). Winchester could easily be 5MPH or 10MPH faster, considering the lack of cross traffic and the great sight distances.

If things were all about "safety," you'd see more state troopers on Highway 38 than local cops writing tickets in Reedsport.

kikilongbean wrote on Sep 14, 2009 3:17 PM:

My son drove down from Seattle one day and he arrived in Reedsport around 2:00 in the morning. He was pulled over by a Reedsport police officer. My son asked why he had been pulled over and the police officer said, "you were going a little fast." My son said, "No, I wasn't. You didn't recognize my car and it is after all 2:00 in the morning - that's why you pulled me over." The police officer told him to have a nice day and got back in his car and drove off.

It's good that they are watching their city. And yes, they are a speed trap, so slow down!

Mr E wrote on Sep 14, 2009 3:16 PM:

Reedsport Police apparently have the same attitude toward speeders as Corvallis has toward drunken drivers... it doesn't matter if you've actually committed an offense, they're out to collect revenue and pad their statistics.

Interestingly, the one time I had to involve Reedsport police in my business (being harassed on the highway by some driver and the crowd in his car, on my way home from college), they were very quick to respond.

MHS2846 wrote on Sep 14, 2009 2:56 PM:

I agree with ORECOAST007. If everyone knows that Reedsport is a speed trap, then everyone should go slower, right? They're getting their point across very clearly... Slow Down.

Shallow Al wrote on Sep 14, 2009 2:45 PM:

Localworkinguy:

Take your foot OFF the accelerator and place it ON the brake pedal. The speed limits are posted. Read them and obey them.

The rest of the conspiracy you hint at I can't help with, but, let me know how it turns out for ya!

oliver woods wrote on Sep 14, 2009 2:23 PM:

Hey! The speed limit is not a suggestion to be ignored. If you know, or should I say "believe", the town is a speed trap what do intelligent folks do? They obey the law! Great job PD and keep it up! It's simple: You mess with the bull and you get the horn. Nuff said.

The Brutal Truth wrote on Sep 14, 2009 1:56 PM:

ORECOAST007,

That makes waaaay too much sense for all the cop-bashers around here.

orecoast007 wrote on Sep 14, 2009 1:04 PM:

To:LOCALWORKINGGUY, May I suggest try slowing down. It is really not to hard to do.. They are out there trying to keep us all (including you) safe.. Good job Reedsport PD...

localworkinguy wrote on Sep 14, 2009 11:22 AM:

it IS a speed trap, they need the money, and they're willing to be extra sneaky in order to get it. if you MUST drive reedsport, be prepared, there's a little more to this speed trap than just "safety"


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