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Pig Nuts wrote on Jun 30, 2009 7:41 PM:
I repeatedly hear this moronic statement.
"only take bids from businesses in this county"
More than likely, if the talent was local, it was already spoon fed to them.
To make up for the ones they can't spoon feed they created this neat little public private company to slip a cool 100K into the poor & needy's pocket.
How stupid can you be to wish for protectionism by county? This is America, supposedly a free market capitalistic system.
Beggars can't be choosy, service job is better than no job at all. You missed the boat for manufacturing jobs & you will miss the boat for a service job as well.
The future will behold a Biological Military Industrial Complex with foreign countries puking our worthless bonds that they purchased as investments... Japan was just caught puking our bonds in Italy.
Bullets fly when people get screwed over financially.
Plan for this & we could see some form of industry land here. That will never happen though, just look at what they have promoting the land of opportunity.
E-Harmoney Hens & Blood Sucking Leaches.
"only take bids from businesses in this county"
More than likely, if the talent was local, it was already spoon fed to them.
To make up for the ones they can't spoon feed they created this neat little public private company to slip a cool 100K into the poor & needy's pocket.
How stupid can you be to wish for protectionism by county? This is America, supposedly a free market capitalistic system.
Beggars can't be choosy, service job is better than no job at all. You missed the boat for manufacturing jobs & you will miss the boat for a service job as well.
The future will behold a Biological Military Industrial Complex with foreign countries puking our worthless bonds that they purchased as investments... Japan was just caught puking our bonds in Italy.
Bullets fly when people get screwed over financially.
Plan for this & we could see some form of industry land here. That will never happen though, just look at what they have promoting the land of opportunity.
E-Harmoney Hens & Blood Sucking Leaches.
tag urit wrote on Jun 29, 2009 8:41 AM:
The current national debt is just over $11 Trillion. Are you suggesting that Bush did that on his own?
The deficit, which of course is related to the debt, is what one should care about..If one creates a chart comparing national debt and gross domestic product during Bush's term and Clinton's term...proportion-wise, it's virtually the same. Sure, both are higher dollar-wise under Bush than they were under Clinton...however, again, proportion-wise, there's simply not THAT much difference. And, the same goes with spending.
The deficit, which of course is related to the debt, is what one should care about..If one creates a chart comparing national debt and gross domestic product during Bush's term and Clinton's term...proportion-wise, it's virtually the same. Sure, both are higher dollar-wise under Bush than they were under Clinton...however, again, proportion-wise, there's simply not THAT much difference. And, the same goes with spending.
jonness wrote on Jun 27, 2009 1:00 PM:
"The American economy grew by more than a third in size, producing a $15 trillion increase in American wealth."
What happened to the national debt during that period?
U.S. president Increase debt/GDP
Roosevelt/Truman -24.30%
Truman Harry Truman -21.90%
Eisenhower1 Dwight Eisenhower -10.80%
Eisenhower2 Dwight Eisenhower -5.40%
Kennedy/Johnson -8.20%
Johnson Lyndon Johnson -8.30%
Nixon1 Richard Nixon -2.90%
Nixon2 Nixon/Ford 0.10%
Carter Jimmy Carter -3.20%
Reagan1 Ronald Reagan 11.30%
Reagan2 Ronald Reagan 9.20%
Bush GHW George H. W. Bush 13.10%
Clinton1 Bill Clinton -0.60%
Clinton2 Bill Clinton -8.20%
Bush GW1 George W. Bush 6.90%
Bush GW2 George W. Bush 11.70%
What happened to the national debt during that period?
U.S. president Increase debt/GDP
Roosevelt/Truman -24.30%
Truman Harry Truman -21.90%
Eisenhower1 Dwight Eisenhower -10.80%
Eisenhower2 Dwight Eisenhower -5.40%
Kennedy/Johnson -8.20%
Johnson Lyndon Johnson -8.30%
Nixon1 Richard Nixon -2.90%
Nixon2 Nixon/Ford 0.10%
Carter Jimmy Carter -3.20%
Reagan1 Ronald Reagan 11.30%
Reagan2 Ronald Reagan 9.20%
Bush GHW George H. W. Bush 13.10%
Clinton1 Bill Clinton -0.60%
Clinton2 Bill Clinton -8.20%
Bush GW1 George W. Bush 6.90%
Bush GW2 George W. Bush 11.70%
barack obama wrote on Jun 27, 2009 9:55 AM:
We need more government control. We need to help the people who can't find work. We need to help the elderly. We need to help the children. We need to help the handicapped, the poor, the minorities. Then we can just go bankrupt as a country and turn into the soviet union.
paminak wrote on Jun 25, 2009 1:16 PM:
I was born and raised in Coos County. I worked very hard at some of the jobs I've had there. But I have to tell you, if you're inclined to seek employment elsewhere... Alaska is IT!! It is truly the land of opportunity.
Our unemployment rate is at 8% and the only reason it is that right now, is because all the college students haven't begun all their work for the summer yet.
Consider Alaska...
Our unemployment rate is at 8% and the only reason it is that right now, is because all the college students haven't begun all their work for the summer yet.
Consider Alaska...
tag urit wrote on Jun 25, 2009 8:59 AM:
CTanner wrote:
"Such simple-minded political rhetoric is not good for the country."
Right, I can recall all of the supportive comments about the 8 years of the Bush Administration!!
As far as his other point:
Reagan's tax cuts and expansion of free trade created a sustained economic expansion creating America's greatest sustained wave of prosperity ever. The American economy grew by more than a third in size, producing a $15 trillion increase in American wealth. Every income group, from the richest, middle class and poorest in this country, grew its income (1981-1989).
"Such simple-minded political rhetoric is not good for the country."
Right, I can recall all of the supportive comments about the 8 years of the Bush Administration!!
As far as his other point:
Reagan's tax cuts and expansion of free trade created a sustained economic expansion creating America's greatest sustained wave of prosperity ever. The American economy grew by more than a third in size, producing a $15 trillion increase in American wealth. Every income group, from the richest, middle class and poorest in this country, grew its income (1981-1989).
CTanner wrote on Jun 24, 2009 12:22 PM:
Considering that Ronald Reagan's tax cuts were followed by 16 months of increasing unemployment, I think its wrong to blame current Administration for the increasing unemployment rate. At the very least, its a complex issue with a variety of causes stretching at least to the last two presidential Administrations (one democrat and one republican).
Such simple-minded political rhetoric is not good for the country.
Such simple-minded political rhetoric is not good for the country.
standupgal wrote on Jun 24, 2009 8:57 AM:
How about government takeover of more and more businesses which will kill more jobs? HOw about another stimulus since the last one has worked so well? How about more czars such as the pay czar to set wages since they are accountable to no one except The President. Did you know that the Congress cannot investigate what they do???
Wake up before it is too late to lift this economy out of total mess. Stop these crazy bills.
GOVERNMENT CONTROL AND HELP IS NOT THE ANSWER.
Wake up before it is too late to lift this economy out of total mess. Stop these crazy bills.
GOVERNMENT CONTROL AND HELP IS NOT THE ANSWER.
standupgal wrote on Jun 24, 2009 8:56 AM:
To all of you OBAMA VOTERs:
YOu "ain't" seen nothing yet as the old saying goes.
If he gets his cap and trade bill to save us from global warming that doesn't exist as we have just experienced the coldest spring for years, the price of all energy will go through the roof plus the regulations on business will kill our economy.
If he gets his health care, you won't have to worry about the elderly as they will not receive health care and will still start dying at younger and younger ages. The taxes raised to support this mess will leave you with little or nothing to live on.
YOu "ain't" seen nothing yet as the old saying goes.
If he gets his cap and trade bill to save us from global warming that doesn't exist as we have just experienced the coldest spring for years, the price of all energy will go through the roof plus the regulations on business will kill our economy.
If he gets his health care, you won't have to worry about the elderly as they will not receive health care and will still start dying at younger and younger ages. The taxes raised to support this mess will leave you with little or nothing to live on.
tag urit wrote on Jun 24, 2009 8:54 AM:
I say that if you have a job up for bid, (like the Coos Bay Fire Station)only take bids from businesses in this county, if there are businesses here that can do the jobs.
The North Bend Housing Authority and the The North Bend Bridge has people from all over the west coast and other nations working on them!
The North Bend Housing Authority and the The North Bend Bridge has people from all over the west coast and other nations working on them!
Steve Pickering wrote on Jun 23, 2009 4:58 PM:
I never thought I would see the day when I would pay attention to anything Kate has to say, but this has got me to thinking.
Kay wrote on Jun 23, 2009 1:22 PM:
Um Used?
We voted for the pipeline-$29 million.
How many jobs?
We voted the uneeded airport terminal - $39 million.
How many jobs?
$10 million for the Railroad - how many jobs? Other than SCDC and the Port staff?
Don't say WE don't want it.
WE pay for it and get the shaft.
Over and over and over.
What say you?
We voted for the pipeline-$29 million.
How many jobs?
We voted the uneeded airport terminal - $39 million.
How many jobs?
$10 million for the Railroad - how many jobs? Other than SCDC and the Port staff?
Don't say WE don't want it.
WE pay for it and get the shaft.
Over and over and over.
What say you?
used2b97420 wrote on Jun 23, 2009 11:28 AM:
No surprise here; for as long as I can remember the area has chased away, voted away and gave away jobs and industry. Tourism benefits very few, Coos Bay needs real jobs, not just retirees with fat pensions. My suggestion for the area motto: Arrive on vacation; leave on probation. No need for high school reunions; you can see everyone at the welfare/food stamp office, probation office or unemployment office.
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