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Oldlthrneck wrote on Jun 15, 2009 10:27 AM:
"Oldlthrneck,I'll bet that you were not a virgin, while you were supposeably in the service."
Wow, catman, I didn't realize that this was about me. So, you will defend someone that bailed on his commitment to his country and his comrades and attack someone that doesn't share your belief that a person is entitled to benefits that they did not earn. You question my honorable service, but defend and believe his dishonorable service. That's rich. Another fine example of the entitlement attitude. Go ahead and flame and attack me as you will, I'll not comment or respond again.
Wow, catman, I didn't realize that this was about me. So, you will defend someone that bailed on his commitment to his country and his comrades and attack someone that doesn't share your belief that a person is entitled to benefits that they did not earn. You question my honorable service, but defend and believe his dishonorable service. That's rich. Another fine example of the entitlement attitude. Go ahead and flame and attack me as you will, I'll not comment or respond again.
catman wrote on Jun 15, 2009 12:21 AM:
As A Vietnam Vet, I know that the DVA has been very good at losing records. The Air Force has also been very good at losing records. We made a commitment to serve, not to be served on. This guy did SERVE, He needs to get his's VA Benefits.
Oldlthrneck,I'll bet that your were not a virgin,, while you were supposeably in the service.
Oldlthrneck,I'll bet that your were not a virgin,, while you were supposeably in the service.
Oldlthrneck wrote on Jun 11, 2009 2:01 PM:
Regardless of whether Mr. Mclain was actually or door gunner on helicopters is irrelavent. The issue is not about his veracity of what he did or did not do during the war, the issue is about benefits earned or not earned. The promise of benefits for service to your country are benefits earned by completing the obligation that you willfully agreed to.(the article does state that he volunteered not drafted) Those before and after Stacy that served honorably would be dishonored by extending those benefits and privileges to one that did not fulfill his obligation and honorably complete his service. In my 22 yrs of service, I saw many that were adversely affected by the horrors and rigors of combat; they did not abandon their duties and obligations to their country and comrades. Now that Mr. McLain is older and financially unable to acquire medical care, he wants to avail himself of the benefits that he did not earn. I believe that reinstating his benefits for dishonorable service, insults all those that served and sacrificed honorable for their country.
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Shallow Al wrote on Jun 10, 2009 5:50 PM:
Here's how efficient the VA is.
My dad served in the south pacific during WWII. Prior to being sent home. He and his unit were sent to Hiroshima as occupation troops for 4 months.
He had leg and foot problems for the rest of his life. He died of bone cancer. So did a large percentage of his unit.
The VA refused all of them benefits for service in the bombed out city, citing the fact they were never stationed there, and their time their was listed as Temporary Duty, (TDY).
Now, I have photos of my father in Hiroshima, I have photos he took while he was there.
Don't tell me how infallible the federal government's record keeping is.
Don't tell me my father was lying.
I'm reminded of something I heard once about walking in another's shoes.
My dad served in the south pacific during WWII. Prior to being sent home. He and his unit were sent to Hiroshima as occupation troops for 4 months.
He had leg and foot problems for the rest of his life. He died of bone cancer. So did a large percentage of his unit.
The VA refused all of them benefits for service in the bombed out city, citing the fact they were never stationed there, and their time their was listed as Temporary Duty, (TDY).
Now, I have photos of my father in Hiroshima, I have photos he took while he was there.
Don't tell me how infallible the federal government's record keeping is.
Don't tell me my father was lying.
I'm reminded of something I heard once about walking in another's shoes.
Shallow Al wrote on Jun 10, 2009 11:16 AM:
And if you are insinuating there are no former helicopter door gunners who actually saw combat, let's discuss that one in person.
I beg to differ.
Whether or not the subject of the story is entitled to benefits is one matter. Don't belittle the roll many actually played in that war. And the others who are serving in Irag and Afganistan as door gunners.
Thank you.
I beg to differ.
Whether or not the subject of the story is entitled to benefits is one matter. Don't belittle the roll many actually played in that war. And the others who are serving in Irag and Afganistan as door gunners.
Thank you.
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