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Shallow Al wrote on May 20, 2009 5:22 PM:
The Union is looking out for it's members?
Isn't that what the members PAY for with their dues?
Isn't that what the members PAY for with their dues?
teacher wrote on May 20, 2009 3:23 PM:
mykidsmom:
decide. Is it just an opinion or the "truth" as you state? The paper has a responsibility to get all the facts, and only when all sides have been investigated thoroughly, state an editorial opinion. This paper waited a couple days and then without a proper investigation or history, stirred the pot.
decide. Is it just an opinion or the "truth" as you state? The paper has a responsibility to get all the facts, and only when all sides have been investigated thoroughly, state an editorial opinion. This paper waited a couple days and then without a proper investigation or history, stirred the pot.
Gene wrote on May 19, 2009 11:29 AM:
I am normally not on the side of this "paper". However, having been a teacher for a short time, I would have rather had my wages frozen than eliminated. If there is enough in the budget for all the positions, than make it work. Why should some who think they are worth more be paid at the expense of a worker who has to be let go. Are the teachers going to clean the floors and repair the equipment? I doubt it. Most good maintenance workers are harder to find than teachers.
Tankerbear wrote on May 19, 2009 6:57 AM:
Considering it is also the Union that is trying to close Virtual Charters in violation of Federal agreements that the State has made to recieve ARRA funding, this does not surprise me at all. Unions have in the past been very beneficial in fighting for rights, it just seems like now, the focus is not on fighting for what is right, but on self preservation at the cost of both education of our children and others jobs. At what point does it become apparent that continuing on this path is not cost affective or in the best interest of Oregon.
saleyus wrote on May 18, 2009 10:51 PM:
How come it's always the top few (including small town newspaper editors) telling the working man to take pay cuts, salary freezes and sacrifice his wages? Yet when the call comes from the many for the top few to do the same to save jobs, the word "socialist" starts getting bandied about?
Apparently, the only ones NOT taking pay cuts are the most irresponsible managers and executives from the top on down at bailed-out companies. Think of how many jobs could have been saved if the money given to AIG execs had been spread out as working class jobs. Do you think those execs. and managers thought about the good of the many? Do you think they thought about sacrificing those bonuses? Heck no, they didn't. It would crimp their style. After all, they were planning their lives around that money. Kind of like the thousands of people that lost their jobs were planning their lives around their wages.
Where is the equity in this paper, when the few rich are so zealously protected from the same calls for "equity" that middle class Americans are endlessly subjected to?
Apparently, the only ones NOT taking pay cuts are the most irresponsible managers and executives from the top on down at bailed-out companies. Think of how many jobs could have been saved if the money given to AIG execs had been spread out as working class jobs. Do you think those execs. and managers thought about the good of the many? Do you think they thought about sacrificing those bonuses? Heck no, they didn't. It would crimp their style. After all, they were planning their lives around that money. Kind of like the thousands of people that lost their jobs were planning their lives around their wages.
Where is the equity in this paper, when the few rich are so zealously protected from the same calls for "equity" that middle class Americans are endlessly subjected to?
saleyus wrote on May 18, 2009 10:47 PM:
Teachers, you need to stay strong and wait until you have all of the facts prior to rolling back the benefits you worked years to achieve. Especially when the proposed budget for k-12 education could be $600 million larger this week than it was last week. I mean, it would be silly to open up the contract and agree to a pay freeze and when it might not even be necessary? Especially if the district gets enough money back from the state to recall all of their employees?
We as a community should support fair pay and benefits for these dedicated professionals who wake up every day and take care of, coach, guide and educate our children in cramped classrooms of ever-increasing in size.
We as a community should support fair pay and benefits for these dedicated professionals who wake up every day and take care of, coach, guide and educate our children in cramped classrooms of ever-increasing in size.
mykidsmom wrote on May 17, 2009 11:16 AM:
Did you miss the part about it being an editorial? In case you have forgotten, that means it is an opinion piece. Nowhere does it represent that it is anything else. Truth hurts, cuts right to the bone at times. Maybe that is why the posts are so defensive so far. Tough to justify protecting a raise when a good portion of the rest of working population are taking pay freezes, double digit reductions in pay or hours, or being cut completely.
teacher wrote on May 14, 2009 10:25 PM:
ONE MEETING! That's all that has happened and the bulk of it was spent talking about 31 articles the board chose to open for re-wording.
There has been no true investigation of these issues on the paper's part. If you want to play in the big leagues, do your job.
There has been no true investigation of these issues on the paper's part. If you want to play in the big leagues, do your job.
MLJ wrote on May 14, 2009 4:55 PM:
As one of the teachers who have lost their job this year due to budget cuts, I am horrified by the ignorance of this editorial. Calling teachers and the union who represents them selfish and arrogant is extremely unprofessional. Your article is one-sided and your reporting is incomplete.
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