North Bend laments losses

By Jessica Musicar, Staff Writer
Wednesday, April 29, 2009 | 24 comment(s)

Schools face 'devastating cuts'

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NORTH BEND -  Elementary school nurse Carrie Bohanan laments that only one nurse will oversee North Bend's schools next year.

She's one of many employees whose job is on the chopping block to help the district adapt to a $3 million reduction in funds. Bohanan fears students, along with her own daughter who suffers from asthma, will be put at risk.

"I'm scared for my daughter," Bohanan said. "Our children's safety should be a top issue along with education. If you're sick, you are not in school."

Through her work, she helps several children with diabetes, and about 40 with inhalers at the three elementary schools. Those duties shouldn't be left to school secretaries or other staff, she said.

Bohanan, along with the equivalent of 30 other teachers, administrators and classified staff members are expected to lose their positions.

 "These are the most devastating cuts I've ever been involved in," Superintendent BJ Hollensteiner told teachers, parents and other community members group Tuesday at North Bend High School, as they voiced their concerns and ideas.

Schools in the state got $6.24 billion for the 2007-09 biennium. State revenue forecasts peg it at $5.4 billion for the next biennium, forcing North Bend to cut $3 million.

"This is true only if the budget is built with no raises for employees, no incre½ases for fuel costs, no increases for supplies, no increases anywhere in the budget," she read in a prepared statement.

Some employees got notices Monday, including 17 full-and part-time instructors from the middle and high schools, along with secretaries, custodians, and the middle school principal.

Earlier on Tuesday, the District Leadership Team finalized the reduction and put-back list it will recommend to the budget committee May 13. The final budget must be adopted by June 30, according to state law.

Hollensteiner said the district would consider other ideas to avoid staff cuts, such as going to a four-day school week, a district-wide salary reduction or cutting 10 days, but they would have to be negotiated with labor unions.

"There's nothing off the table," Hollensteiner said.

Most cuts will come from the high school. It has the most programs. One thing that has slowed the reduction process is waiting for high schoolers to pick their schedules for next year to determine which classes are popular, Hollensteiner said. Principal Bill Lucero noted some cuts would lead to larger class sizes. The high school likely will drop its metal-working and construction courses.

"None of us want to see it go," Hollensteiner said.

Board President Karen Helland feared losing those courses could have an impact on students who would take the skills on to family-wage jobs, with local companies like American Bridge and Sause Bros.

"(I) have a huge problem with taking that totally away when it's an option for kids who are not traditionally college bound," she said.

Jim Rose, a North Bend accountant with two schoolchildren, said he's concerned about the timing of the meeting - held at 4 p.m., when many people work - and a lack of transparency.

"The North Bend process has been veiled in secrecy," Rose said.

He also took issue with a "Jumbo-tron" scoreboard being installed at the high school, which was funded through a donation.

"To me personally, that is a huge slap in the face of every one of the 31 employees," he said. "That project should be stopped immediately."

Helland said the scoreboard project began before the budget crisis, and has no impact.

Board member Carol Salisbury didn't take the criticism well. She reminded him that board members are volunteers with no hidden agenda. She said they weren't putting money in their pockets and planning cruises.

"We're trying to keep our school district afloat," she said, her voice rising.

Another audience member suggested consolidating school districts, perhaps countywide, to save money on administrative costs.

Helland and Salisbury said it's not a new idea, but the effort would have to come from the community.

"That has to happen from the ground up," Helland said.

Coos Bay Superintendent Bob De La Vergne and three of Coos Bay School Board members also attended the meeting. De La Vergne said he's open to collaborating with North Bend, but turf issues do get in the way.

"We are in a terrible situation ... but we have to work together," De La Vergne said.

Helland said that while the community hasn't been able to give input on cuts, there still is time to weigh in.

"The process isn't over," she said.
Have ideas?


The North Bend School Board is asking community members and school district staff to share ideas for saving money or increasing revenues. The district is facing an estimated $3 million cut in state funds for the coming school year, with that it's proposing to eliminate the equivalent of 31 positions. Here's a list of public meetings.


• Tuesday: 6 p.m. at a location to be announced.


• Wednesday, May 13: The district's budget committee holds first meeting in the North Bend council chambers, city hall, 835 California St.


• Monday, June 22: Public hearing on budget.


• Other: The district must adopt the final budget by June 30, according to state law.
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Tanner Hamlett wrote on May 6, 2009 1:12 PM:

To 'Just Saying',

1) 'Higher-Ups'. I am not making an assumption.

2) This is a public labor issue; therefore, public employees' unions are very much involved. To say that the union has nothing to do with it is just plain ignorant, and borderline stupid.

3) You oversimplify the process of consolidation. The vote of the people makes the end-game decision, but there is an entire game to be played beforehand (i.e. how it's going to work). Again, another asinine commment on your part.

bfrazier wrote on May 4, 2009 10:50 PM:

I agree consolidation may offer some cost savings for CB/NB, for Coq/MP or perhaps for Bandon/Port Orford.

In the mean time, ask your school board members how much the OSAA's giant agenda actually costs - ask them not only for the athletic budget (and Athletic director's cost out of the Administrative budget) but also the cost of all the transportation to all the events far and wide. They likely won't have an answer even close.

As for what to cut, since it really sounds like something has to give, I'd still rather cut those programs that weren't so closely aligned with so many family wage job skills found in today's (and tomorrow's) rural Oregon job market, and certainly not prior to others less central expenditures.

citizen wrote on May 2, 2009 6:07 PM:

We need to consolidate all the schools in the Coos Bay and North Bend areas. We need to consolidate both cities. We need to do this and eliminate the waste that is made transparent with them being divided.

Sara Bellum wrote on May 2, 2009 1:42 PM:

The loss of the metal shop program is truly awful. So many graduate with the ability the begin careers that not only help their families, but also our community. Our area is having a hard enough time with the economy. If we don't have new skilled welders from our own area, we will have to import them. Mr. McGrady has changed man lives for the better. Let's keep him!

teacher wrote on May 2, 2009 5:16 AM:

bfrazier, I would challenge you to not think of which classes "fluff" and which classes are "solid". Instead I would encourage you to accept that it is ALL necessary, because there are many valid learning styles, including musical sense and spatial sense which include band, choir and voc tech classes.

Instead of trying to cut and slash things that we need, and accuse and offend, we all really need to be banding together to decide how to solve the long-term funding issues of education in this state. This will require thinking outside the box and demanding more from our budget and lawmakers.

Q wrote on May 1, 2009 2:45 PM:

To BFRAZIER and any other naysayers on so called "fluff" classes...

If we're going to pull stops on the OSAA and consider athletics that are listed under their organization... did any of you realize that CHOIR is a recognized SPORT under OSAA???

Do you know how many hours goes into becoming a lettered member?

Have any of you done studies on the correlation between mathmatics ability and musical ability? I'd think not. That's why I had to be the one to 'tutor' so many of the football players from my class.

If it wasn't for people like me, who in high school were in choir, and would take the time to help others... some of those STAR players in the day would have NEVER been permitted to play!

Think about that before you knock the validity of art programs. It's the art students who keep culture in the schools... and many of whom receive ACADEMIC scholarships... unlike the players who depend on their physical prowess.

For the shame of it all... Consolidate already and SAVE OUR SCHOOLS!!!

just saying wrote on May 1, 2009 1:02 PM:

Tanner Hamlett -
You're right. You don't get my point.

Quotes from your earlier post that I disagree with:

1) "The only people against it are those who benefit from the inane redundancy (i.e. two superintendants, admin staff, etc.)." I know several of the people that this statement would encompass. They are not against it. You are making assumptions and being hostile (for some unknown reason; possible dislike for people who have higher education/income?) in the process.

2) "Thank your local public employees' union representative for this exercise in idiocy." While exposing your anti-union viewpoint with this statement, the truth is that unions have nothing to do with it.

...and from your most recent post:

3) "I think it is about time that the higher-ups start giving it serious consideration." Once again, contrary to your assumptions, it is not up to the "higher-ups". It's up to a vote of the people within the districts proposing consolidation. That would normally start with a petitioning process. The "higher-ups" couldn't stop it, even if they wanted to, if the people voted it in.

bfrazier wrote on May 1, 2009 12:06 PM:

Re: "Vocational education classes are indeed important, but so are classes like band and choir. These courses are not "fluff" to those who are passionate about it, just as sports are not fluff to those who are athletes."

So you have three "dollars" and can "buy" one course of action - use common sense, classes that have an economic and life long relevance for a wide majority of student should remain. Athletic to could obviously be handled in a vastly more cost effective manner than we have been saddled with by the OSAA.

bfrazier wrote on May 1, 2009 12:00 PM:

Re: I went to Christian schools and...

Public schools have the responsibility of educating every single child who shows up and they have higher educational standards for their teachers, just for starters - so that's why.

Lifeisgood! wrote on May 1, 2009 10:22 AM:

To Gene: I totally agree with Teacher, you are so out of line that it's just sickening. You expect teachers to go to the doctor or lose their sick pay? Do you realize how the insurance rates would skyrocket if we all went to doctors EVERY time we are sick? I am not a teacher but I am so sick of people insulting and belittleing-(spelling?) them like they should be volunteers. They should be paid more than Bank CEO's as far as I'm concerned.

Tanner Hamlett wrote on May 1, 2009 9:36 AM:

To 'Just Saying'

I guess I just don't get your point, because it seems you agree with me.

As for starting with the people, I think it is a topic that has been talked about in the area for over 50 years.

I think it is about time that the higher-ups start giving it serious consideration.

Oh Really? wrote on Apr 30, 2009 11:58 AM:

Vocational education classes are indeed important, but so are classes like band and choir. These courses are not "fluff" to those who are passionate about it, just as sports are not fluff to those who are athletes.

AnOldDude wrote on Apr 30, 2009 6:55 AM:

Volunteer!
they are your children you are failing
Stay at home Moms, recently unemployed, how about swing shifters. A REAL effort by every one and our schools would be better places by the time the economy turns around

JVW wrote on Apr 29, 2009 8:34 PM:

I agree that is it time for the school districts to consolidate. I don't know what is involved to start the ball rolling - they need to tell us. It's probably too late for next year, but this financial crisis is not going away any time soon.

I agree that bus trips for away games need to be drastically curtailed. The state sports association needs to get real about the distances and costs involved not to mention missing classes.

And I agree with Karen Helland that you should not be cutting programs that lead directly to the workforce, even if they are smaller enrollments. I was a guidance counselor in NY state for 20 years. During that time about 25% of high school graduates eventually got a 4 year degree. I do not think that number has changed appreciably. Though students need training for life, and an appreciation for lifelong education, they don't all need a 4yr degree. It is a shame we don't have more vocational programs in our high schools and our community college.

bfrazier wrote on Apr 29, 2009 6:52 PM:

It is absolutely outrageous to cut technical courses which provide life long career skills such as Construction and Welding before sports of fluff like choir and Band. This is absurd, despicable and just plain WRONG!

teacher wrote on Apr 29, 2009 5:47 PM:

Gene, I'm sorry but you're commenting like a simpleton. First of all, do you go to a dr. every time you have a bad cold or the flu? Do you know what happens when teachers who are really sick don't stay home for a day or two? It spreads and literally hundreds of kids are infected.
Duh.
In your little world, teachers would be working with a hundred and four tempature and be writing a thank you note to the public for allowing us to do so.
Secondly, do you know how many teachers have literally hundreds of sick days stockpiled because we NEVER take a day off unless our child is ill or something is really wrong? I am new in a district and I have over 50 I haven't used.
This is a funding problem. Quit using the teachers who are working hard to make a difference as your scapegoat.

I am so tired of apologizing for getting paid even though I have a masters degree, getting a normal amount of sick-leave and having some health benefits. How DARE I expect to make a good living for working hard!

Coquillian wrote on Apr 29, 2009 4:57 PM:

Hold on people! Getting mad about the jumbotron would be like the bleacher club getting mad at the MANY who donate specifically for scholarships. People donated the money way before the budget woes. They have nothing to be ashamed of. The citizens did not create this crisis, nor should they have to donate more in this economy to make up for it. And quit blaming the unions, if it weren't for unions, we would not have the quality of teachers that we do. It's the economy, stupid. Nothing else.

nascargrl8899 wrote on Apr 29, 2009 3:16 PM:

I went to Christian schools from the the time I was in Kindergarten to my senior year of high school (1977-1991). I guess I just do not understand why the cost of a public education is so expensive. Who cares about a dumb jumbotron screen! I know of Christian schools in our area that run a very tight budget. Academically, the students are far ahead of the public school. One of the reasons is that the Christian schools have set standards for discipline and respect. All of this has been lost in the public schools. When I do have children, they will not be in a caotic public school.

just saying wrote on Apr 29, 2009 2:09 PM:

Tanner Hamlett - 3 points:

1) I don't know anyone personally who opposes consolidation. That includes several school staff members, administration, the CB superintendant, etc. Manufacturing villains doesn't help.

2) Consolidation starts with the people. The districts can't just go to work one day, make a couple of phone calls and make it happen. It requires petitioning and votes of the people. Get the ball rolling instead of just complaining about it.

3) I would imagine that, in any business, the boss would make more than the scores of employees in their charge. Your bet would seem to be a safe (and obvious) one.

Just saying...

Gene wrote on Apr 29, 2009 12:54 PM:

Another suggestion, make sure that when a teacher decides to take his, or her, sick pay that the substitute gets the teachers pay if the teacher can't provide a doctors excuse. You do these things, the budget will fit nicely without having to cut classes and school days. It won't happen though because most people refuse to face the fact that some things just can't be paid for with the economy and the tax base in our area the way it is. Do you think the schools during the Great Depression could afford what the District wants today? If the unemployment rate was adjusted for the changes made a few years ago in the way it was calculated, we would be having the same numbers as then. It is presently around 13 percent and if not for the changes it would be about 18 to 20 percent.

School Districts need to get back to the Basics until the economy improves.

Gene wrote on Apr 29, 2009 12:49 PM:

Dan, consolidate, Yes. Sales tax? Not in Oregon. There are plenty of ways to make the existing dollars do the job of educating the children of Coos County. Sports need to be self-sustaining. Coaches need to volunteer their time if it is so important to them. I am willing to bet that most will not volunteer once the extra pay is cut off. Busing from one district to another needs to be stopped unless the sport program can pay for it without costing the taxpayer a dime.

Tanner Hamlett wrote on Apr 29, 2009 11:59 AM:

It is insane that NB and Marshfield have not consolidated. There are fully functional, and quality schools all over the country that are bigger than these two school would be combined.

The only people against it are those who benefit from the inane redundancy (i.e. two superintendants, admin staff, etc.).

I bet De La Vergne and Hollensteiner both make significantly more than a typical teacher or school nurse. Just a guess.

Thank your local public employees' union representative for this exercise in idiocy.

dan wrote on Apr 29, 2009 11:40 AM:

Two solutions need to be applied. First consolidate North Bend and Coos Bay and annex Coquille. RE: organize the local government. If you dont know how -visit a Eugene city councel meeting. Second you need to toss Sizemore a lead parachute and adopt a sales tax. A family living on a small income would not have to pay state tax on their rent and utilities and a small amount on groceries.The rest pay as you go.

Local Lady wrote on Apr 29, 2009 11:30 AM:

I agree whole heartedly that the jumbotron screen is a complete slap in the face. Whoever donated that money should be ashamed of themselves for not donating the funds to a worthy cause. They could have saved jobs but instead we'll be watching instant replays of a non-existent football team.


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