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Alan Pettit wrote on Apr 28, 2009 3:10 PM:
teacher wrote on Apr 28, 2009 6:02 AM:
So what you're saying is that it's more important to have OSAA sports than pay teachers what their EDUCATION LEVEL deserves? What kind of teachers do you think you might retain and attract?
These cuts aren't just for awhile, the funding issues are not going to get better soon.
If teachers cannot see that it is financially worth the expense of 6 years of education, the costs we cover out of pocket that is never documented and putting ourselves on the firing range of the public and bad parents, they will not go into teaching.
And if some of you critics of what I've said think it's so easy and should be done out of love, quit your jobs, pay for 6 years of school and face these kids day in and day out for what you're suggesting we pay the teachers. I'll bet you won't do it.
CBMom30 wrote on Apr 27, 2009 2:05 PM:
The Brutal Truth wrote on Apr 23, 2009 2:14 PM:
just saying wrote on Apr 23, 2009 12:44 PM:
TANNER HAMLET - You ask if I have first hand knowledge of others' motive and yet you question mine w/o knowing me. Facts are facts. State revenues don't meet the needs of well-established educational models. Salaries within schools are readily available online.
http://www.openbooksproject.org/ is just one source.
The only "special interests" that the citizens of Coos Bay should consider are those of our kids' education. The implication that special interests are driving educators, staff, administrators, and others instead of their love of kids, their work in education and a feeling of satisfaction for a job well done may make you feel better, but it's not the truth and it's unnecessary, divisive, and (as I said before) unproductive.
MHS MOM wrote on Apr 23, 2009 10:50 AM:
just saying wrote on Apr 23, 2009 9:54 AM:
I absolutely believe that principals deserve that amount. CBSD has (slightly) lower than average salaries accross the board for schools its size in Oregon. Principals manage entire campuses, dozens of employees (many who make 60+% of their salary), and deal with a variety of issues. They have to know education models and business practices. All of this while helping kids and parents, and dealing with a smaller segment of the local community (such as yourself) that don't understand the scope and functions of their duties.
Just saying...
CommonSense wrote on Apr 23, 2009 9:28 AM:
The district has posted each years budget online for quite some time. I don't believe that the budget is too difficult to read; there is just a lot to go through for the people out there who really want to know how the money is spent. I don't think that we want them to "dumb it down" for us. It should be posted the way it is without any manipulation.
http://www.admin.cbd9.net/Business/
CommonSense...
Tanner Hamlett wrote on Apr 23, 2009 9:05 AM:
I keep reading your quote: "no one, including the staff, the union, the adminstration, and/or the board, is overpaid or greedy."
Huh?
Do you have first-hand knowledge of everyone's motives? Or is this a blanket statement about the 'awesomeness' of any and all special interests involved?
And, FYI, this is NOT just a revenue problem, it is a DEFICIT problem. This means that the revenue is too little to cover the SPENDING.
Don't let your own special interest blind the issue.
CBRezident wrote on Apr 23, 2009 8:17 AM:
Gene wrote on Apr 22, 2009 4:13 PM:
just saying wrote on Apr 22, 2009 3:45 PM:
* No amount of pay cuts will actually guarantee that staff won't be cut. It MAY prevent cuts but the only guarantee is that it will help lessen the impact on classrooms.
* The budget problem is not isolated to Coos Bay; it is state-wide. However the cuts to staff, programs, supplies and services works out: that WILL be the working model. And it is happening everywhere, not just here.
No one, including the staff, the union, the adminstration, and/or the board, is overpaid or greedy. Accusations to that effect are unproductive. It is the state of the economy we are in and we all need to deal with it together.
Just saying...
just another mother wrote on Apr 22, 2009 3:24 PM:
Here is an idea: Restructure Oregon's tax system and (dare I say it) implement a Sales Tax. I challenge you to do some research and really weigh the pros and cons of each system. Sales Tax pays for education! And in places such as Coos County were we rely so heavily on tourism, think of the possibilities...
IWanttoknow wrote on Apr 22, 2009 2:31 PM:
tsunami wrote on Apr 22, 2009 1:06 PM:
bfrazier wrote on Apr 22, 2009 12:18 PM:
teacher wrote on Apr 22, 2009 11:16 AM:
I have heard that in the past the teachers agreed to a salary freeze, but then the district went ahead with cutting teachers anyway.
This would make an interesting historical article.
The way it sounds in this article is that if only the teachers would give up some money, then all problems would be solved.
Could the World please be as neutral as possible in THIS debate instead of stirring the pot?
One example of this phenomenom is when the point/counterpoint in the Stufflebean debate was published. The World just had to interject whether the reporter had heard something in a meeting or not. How about just publishing the meeting minutes and quit making trouble??? Be neutral local newspaper!
Steve Pickering wrote on Apr 22, 2009 10:58 AM:
Why doesn’t everyone give up a little, so some don’t have to give up all? You who have, need to take care of your union brothers and sisters, who have not. That is what the real spirit of unionism is. Not just what I can get for myself. Do the right thing. Take a little less so everyone keeps working.
And administrators, you need to look at your salaries also. There you wanted answers, this makes sense to me.






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