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COOS BAY - James Moore has a sense for what the Coos Bay School District is going through. A lumber mill worker with Georgia-Pacific, Moore has seen companies shutter their operations over the years, leaving employees uncertain about their futures.

There aren't any plans to close down Marshfield High School, though it's possible some teachers will find themselves without jobs this fall.

School officials sought ideas from the public Tuesday night to balance a nearly $4 million shortfall, but there weren't too many suggestions to consider.

Moore and local businessman Steve Schneiderman were about the only people without an affiliation to the district who spoke. Schneiderman suggested the district sell the property it owns near Wal-Mart to avoid cutting teachers.

That's not something Board Member Wally Hazen wants to do, he said Tuesday. He noted that the real estate market is not favorable and the district has planned to allow the high school carpentry class to build homes on the approximately three acres of property.

Moore, who had several children go through Coos Bay schools, said the district should consider cutting wages before laying off teachers. He also suggested that principals should teach classes in addition to their administrative duties.

Instituting salary cuts is something to think about, said Superintendent Bob De La Vergne, but that can't happen without union approval.

"The only unilateral authority we have is to lay off staff," he said.

One proposal presented by De La Vergne has the district shedding 16 teaching positions next fall, including seven at Marshfield High School.

That's going to raise the average class size to 37 students, said teacher Kathy Danielson, chairwoman of the science department at Marshfield High School.

"That's a nightmare for science," she said.

Danielson said there will be lab assignments that will be eliminated because there will be too many students to do them safely.

The projected staff cuts have already gotten several teachers searching for jobs elsewhere, said Jonathan Hill, a Marshfield science teacher. He said teachers want to know the district's plans for next year so they can make plans of their own if they find themselves unemployed.

Business manager Rod Danielson said the problem is that the district won't know how much money it will get next year until the May forecast comes out. 

"They don't know much more than we do," he said.

The worst-case scenario the district is considering would leave the district with a $3.7 million budget shortfall, not including $300,000 in carryover from this year.

De La Vergne said district administrators would meet today to discuss layoffs and program cuts. That includes a proposal to cut $250,000 from the athletic department budget.

Athletic Director Greg Mulkey said he wants to avoid eliminating programs, though he hasn't finalized plans to reach De La Vergne's goal.

One idea is to cut coaches or ask them to take pay cuts. Other cost-saving measures include reducing the length of sports seasons, only sending varsity teams for road games and playing multiple games per trip.

"The ultimate goal is to try to maintain as many programs as possible," he said, referring to both sports and elective classes.

He said he would like to keep the Sunset Middle School athletic program, though other schools, including Coquille and Siuslaw, are talking about eliminating those programs entirely.
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What: Coos Bay school managers want the public's suggestions on dealing with budget cuts.


When: 5:30 p.m. Thursday.


Where: The gym at Millicoma Intermediate School.
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Alan Pettit wrote on Apr 28, 2009 3:10 PM:

The Feds are going to pay out $1.3B (billion) in employee bonuses this year while running a trillion dollars in the red. Congress gave seven (7) AIG execs bonuses of $4m dollars OR MORE of taxpayer money. Our elected officials just spent $63 BILLION on earmarks. Federal employees receive over $900 per month in benefits alone. Oregon employees receive over $800 per month in benefits. All things considered, this budget shortfall should be handed to our elected officials with a simple message - get the money.

teacher wrote on Apr 28, 2009 6:02 AM:

CB Mom: I agree that freezing salaries and cutting our health benefits would be a way to save money.

So what you're saying is that it's more important to have OSAA sports than pay teachers what their EDUCATION LEVEL deserves? What kind of teachers do you think you might retain and attract?

These cuts aren't just for awhile, the funding issues are not going to get better soon.

If teachers cannot see that it is financially worth the expense of 6 years of education, the costs we cover out of pocket that is never documented and putting ourselves on the firing range of the public and bad parents, they will not go into teaching.

And if some of you critics of what I've said think it's so easy and should be done out of love, quit your jobs, pay for 6 years of school and face these kids day in and day out for what you're suggesting we pay the teachers. I'll bet you won't do it.

CBMom30 wrote on Apr 27, 2009 2:05 PM:

I realize that I didn't go to school here but my family has been here since the 50's. I still don't understand why joining CB and NB school districts is such a problem. Couldn't there still be a Marshfield as well as a NB high school? The difference would be the elimination of a complete set of administration. It would certainly save the jobs in Coos Bay as well as the 17, I believe was the number, in North Bend.

The Brutal Truth wrote on Apr 23, 2009 2:14 PM:

Remember, usually any time you see a school employee's pay listed, that is with their benefits INCLUDED in that dollar amount.

just saying wrote on Apr 23, 2009 12:44 PM:

MHS MOM - Your suggestion seems very reasonable. More suggestions like that are what's needed in order to solve the problems.

TANNER HAMLET - You ask if I have first hand knowledge of others' motive and yet you question mine w/o knowing me. Facts are facts. State revenues don't meet the needs of well-established educational models. Salaries within schools are readily available online.

http://www.openbooksproject.org/ is just one source.

The only "special interests" that the citizens of Coos Bay should consider are those of our kids' education. The implication that special interests are driving educators, staff, administrators, and others instead of their love of kids, their work in education and a feeling of satisfaction for a job well done may make you feel better, but it's not the truth and it's unnecessary, divisive, and (as I said before) unproductive.

The Brutal Truth wrote on Apr 23, 2009 12:21 PM:

Here here, Just Saying!!!!

MHS MOM wrote on Apr 23, 2009 10:50 AM:

Here's a thought!!!Instead of starting with cutting teachers in the district, why don't we take a look at the benefits they all receive. Why not raise the deductible on their health insurance to a level like everyone else has to pay, say $1000.00, freeze the cost of living increases and then cut a few days off of the school year.. They did this in Eugene and saved 3.5 million dollars, Just seems sensible.

just saying wrote on Apr 23, 2009 9:54 AM:

CBREZIDENT -
I absolutely believe that principals deserve that amount. CBSD has (slightly) lower than average salaries accross the board for schools its size in Oregon. Principals manage entire campuses, dozens of employees (many who make 60+% of their salary), and deal with a variety of issues. They have to know education models and business practices. All of this while helping kids and parents, and dealing with a smaller segment of the local community (such as yourself) that don't understand the scope and functions of their duties.

Just saying...

CommonSense wrote on Apr 23, 2009 9:28 AM:

To Gene,

The district has posted each years budget online for quite some time. I don't believe that the budget is too difficult to read; there is just a lot to go through for the people out there who really want to know how the money is spent. I don't think that we want them to "dumb it down" for us. It should be posted the way it is without any manipulation.

http://www.admin.cbd9.net/Business/

CommonSense...

Tanner Hamlett wrote on Apr 23, 2009 9:05 AM:

To 'just saying'

I keep reading your quote: "no one, including the staff, the union, the adminstration, and/or the board, is overpaid or greedy."

Huh?

Do you have first-hand knowledge of everyone's motives? Or is this a blanket statement about the 'awesomeness' of any and all special interests involved?

And, FYI, this is NOT just a revenue problem, it is a DEFICIT problem. This means that the revenue is too little to cover the SPENDING.

Don't let your own special interest blind the issue.

CBRezident wrote on Apr 23, 2009 8:17 AM:

To Just saying;what do you mean that No one is overpaid or greedy?Do you really think that a position of principal in this area deserves a salary of 88,000+ benefits.For that kind of money they should have other duties,Teaching coaching,Nursing whatever.What really irks me is the scare tactics that the administrators use to get the public to go along with what the board says they need.This community was founded on some major industry,which brought in major amounts of taxes which funded our schools and since those industries are gone, Now the district should admend those salaries that can no longer be afforded in this area.

Gene wrote on Apr 22, 2009 4:13 PM:

It would be interesting to see the amount of the budget allocated to the sports section. At one time, a number of years ago, I saw those figures and if I was to relate them now, people wouldn't believe me. The best way to keep the public informed, and supportive, is to publish the budget in a simple form for all to see. Then maybe the school district could get some help. Until then, all my votes are going to be "No"..

just saying wrote on Apr 22, 2009 3:45 PM:

The problem is the decreasing state revenues and, consequently, the decreasing amount of money going into the school system from the state. Period. With the state budget forecast looking grimmer from month to month, the district has no choice but to tighten its belt. It has to run on a balanced budget. Among other things, this means:

* No amount of pay cuts will actually guarantee that staff won't be cut. It MAY prevent cuts but the only guarantee is that it will help lessen the impact on classrooms.

* The budget problem is not isolated to Coos Bay; it is state-wide. However the cuts to staff, programs, supplies and services works out: that WILL be the working model. And it is happening everywhere, not just here.

No one, including the staff, the union, the adminstration, and/or the board, is overpaid or greedy. Accusations to that effect are unproductive. It is the state of the economy we are in and we all need to deal with it together.

Just saying...

just another mother wrote on Apr 22, 2009 3:24 PM:

I can only hope that the persons that will be making these crucial decisions are aware of how severely making a wrong move could affect our community. As it is you rarely hear positive feedback in regards to our public school system and. I personally know people who have moved, are currently moving and will be moving specifically because of how important their children's education is. The quality of education in our area is suffering and laying off teachers can only mean that it will continue to get worse.
Here is an idea: Restructure Oregon's tax system and (dare I say it) implement a Sales Tax. I challenge you to do some research and really weigh the pros and cons of each system. Sales Tax pays for education! And in places such as Coos County were we rely so heavily on tourism, think of the possibilities...

IWanttoknow wrote on Apr 22, 2009 2:31 PM:

IWTK is there a 'working model' for a successful school district in Oregon? If there is, why, reinvent the wheel, when you can borrow their budget/teacher ratio/sports, etc. is not Oregon try the United States, is not the USA, try the world! I don't understand how the most educated people on the face of this good earth cannot figure out a working model. I know why you are getting the 'public' involved you, your staff, the school board don't want to be fired, recalled, boycotted, and a Union Strike. Just say, "Its what the public wanted and we did it" or admit, "WE CAN"T DO THE JOB(S)WE WERE..........(Fill in Blank; HIRED;APPOINTED;ELECTED) TO DO" This is my opinion and I'm stickin' to it. Is this type of management what the recall folks want for the county??

tsunami wrote on Apr 22, 2009 1:06 PM:

according to a blogger the school district has proven they cant be trusted. now, if everyone, from the top down took the same pay cuts and it was properly documented in the contract that would be fair and no one would lose their jobs. in the advent of unscruplious behaivor by management the union still has the option to strike. i just hope the union would have the backbone to strike.

bfrazier wrote on Apr 22, 2009 12:18 PM:

Athletic director Greg Mulkey and everyone else should know that OSAA sports is not the only method to impart sportsmanship and other attributes attributed to athletics. Get real - shorten seasons, move toward intermural programs and move away from the OSAA model of "Sports above all else". It simply is not appropriate to ship kids all over the state for athletics in the face of these kinds of budget cuts. Cut teachers instead of sports? You've got to be kidding.

teacher wrote on Apr 22, 2009 11:16 AM:

I am a teacher, on my lunch break. I am fairly new to the district, but not to the area.
I have heard that in the past the teachers agreed to a salary freeze, but then the district went ahead with cutting teachers anyway.
This would make an interesting historical article.
The way it sounds in this article is that if only the teachers would give up some money, then all problems would be solved.
Could the World please be as neutral as possible in THIS debate instead of stirring the pot?
One example of this phenomenom is when the point/counterpoint in the Stufflebean debate was published. The World just had to interject whether the reporter had heard something in a meeting or not. How about just publishing the meeting minutes and quit making trouble??? Be neutral local newspaper!

Steve Pickering wrote on Apr 22, 2009 10:58 AM:

Union,

Why doesn’t everyone give up a little, so some don’t have to give up all? You who have, need to take care of your union brothers and sisters, who have not. That is what the real spirit of unionism is. Not just what I can get for myself. Do the right thing. Take a little less so everyone keeps working.


And administrators, you need to look at your salaries also. There you wanted answers, this makes sense to me.


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