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Dave from NB wrote on Mar 24, 2009 10:32 AM:
everyman wrote on Mar 20, 2009 12:57 PM:
Comparing the risk of explosion from a newly built LNG pipeline to that of a pipeline built 50 years ago is like comparing surgery from the 50's to surgery now...there has been so much technological advancement and legal regulation that the risks are incredibly reduced...maybe a thousandfold.
Stop cutting and pasting the same old argument (under a whole bunch of different names, BTW) and face the facts...There are risks, and they are manageable.
Jane wrote on Mar 16, 2009 8:25 AM:
Better take a business course on supply & demand economics, because that "Iran signs 3.2 billion dollar gas deal with China" is BAD news because that means LNG prices are going to INCREASE again for the rest of the WORLD including the USA! LNG is already OVER 2 times more expensive then Oregon citizens are paying right now! Thanks for proving my point that this LNG SCAM is not needed or wanted in the USA or Oregon due to it being to expensive & increasing our dependence on foreign Hostile countries like Russia, Iran, Algeria for our future energy needs that most likely lead to some kind of embargo like OPEC did to the USA in the 1970's!
everyman wrote on Mar 15, 2009 2:24 PM:
yes, Jane, lets just sit by twiddling our thumbs while our enemies synergize their resources to obliterate us...
BTW, we have sanctions against Iran right now...did you know that? That means we won't be buying anything from them anytime soon...
everyman wrote on Mar 14, 2009 10:33 AM:
Jane, I only post as everyman...always have, always will.
IF it is 2x more expensive when the terminal opens (and really, who cares how much it costs? It is a BUSINESS...let them suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune) then no one in their right mind would buy it, would they. And then the terminal would shut down...your dream come true. So why the fuss?
Also, you have no idea what develops international relations, do you? The blackmail (it is one word, you know. What you described is a black envelope you get in your mailbox) would end all the US support we supply those countries in aid. Except Iran...but I doubt we would buy anything from them anyways. You really have no idea what you are talking about, do you.
Keep screaming, Jane...keep screaming.
Jane wrote on Mar 13, 2009 6:20 PM:
When you are D E P E N D E N T
on foreign countries especially H O S T I L E countries like Russia, Iran, Algeria, etc., then they can at anytime black mail/embrago & hold back/refuse to sell to you or raise prices! For example, OPEC did an embrago/refused to sell the USA some oil in the 1970's & prices drastically I N C R E A S E D to all USA citizens placing a extreme H A R D S H I P on them! Besides that obvious issue, just the F A C T that LNG is O V E R 2 T I M E S more expensive then the natural gas used today by Oregon citizens, thus anyone would be a F O O L to want to pay M O R E money per month for natural gas! I know everyone gets it besides you & your other IQ's posting in here, because it's pretty basic that this California LNG SCAM is N O T good for the majority of Oregon & USA citizens!
everyman wrote on Mar 13, 2009 3:04 PM:
Dear Jane, exactly which "HUGH prices increases" are you talking about? It really is hard to take your points seriously when they are typed as incorrectly as they are.
Also...you talk about the open market as if you cared. Why? Coffe at Starbucks is expensive, but I don't hear you screaming that S-bux is a BURN ZONE (You are more likely to get burned there than within the hazard area of an LNG tanker)or 2X MORE EXPENSIVE (more than 2x, if we are honest) than other forms of coffee.
Excuse me, Jane. Do you mind if I squeeze by? You need to get out of the road...you are blocking the path.
Ron wrote on Mar 10, 2009 9:04 AM:
Has anyone at The World ever actually seen an LNG ship up close? From, say, less than 2 miles or so? Imagining one of those carriers coming into Coos Bay, past Charleston, then Empire - Across from the Airport - or seen from the Safeway parking lot..... Really, just imagine it. Then research it and write about it as if you were an even handed member of this community - rather than a lacky of the LNG gang.
This issue has nothing at all to do with employment or growth, nothing at all.
Jane wrote on Mar 9, 2009 11:27 AM:
These LNG SCAM con men are funny really since:
A) LNG is 2 TIMES more expensive then natural gas used today by Oregon citizens.
B) LNG increases the USA dependence on foreign countries for the outdated air polluting fossel fuel.
C) LNG comes from unfriendly countries like Russia, Iran, etc. that will black mail the USA in the future that will cause HUGH prices increases that will put a hardship on all USA citizens, just as OPEC did in the 1970's.
Add it up, how anyone can say today's economics won't play a BIG part in tomorrow's market is a con man or just plain ignorant! Open market prices decides profitability & they continue to go UP & demand inside the USA continues to decline, thus you have to be a fool to say that is a good profitable situation! Give it up con man Bob Braddock, Oregon doesn't need or want you PERIOD!
Just Me wrote on Mar 9, 2009 8:40 AM:
Thomas wrote on Mar 9, 2009 7:23 AM:
LNG is a dead horse at Coos Bay now anyway, so I'll abstain further from beating it ......... carry on Dude.
Common Sense wrote on Mar 8, 2009 10:29 AM:
Just a "few" of the MANY stories told by him:
1) His structure at Jordon Cove will withstand a 9.3 Earthquake.
2) His 55ft sand barrier at Jordon Cove will withstand a 100ft Tsunami wave.
3) His Lng is needed, yet it is OVER 2X more expensive then the gas used today by Oregon citizens & it comes from hostile countries like Russia, Iran, Algeria, etc.
4) Claimed a couple of years ago Lng is clean, but now admits it is a air polluter.
5) Claimed a couple of years ago this will produce HUNDREDS of local jobs, then announced ALL construction work will be proformed by people outside of Oregon. No local will qualify for any of the ONLY 30-50 full time jobs created due to experience & education requirements also.
Bottomline: Wish I received a $100 for every story Bob has told to this area, because I would be a millionaire already!
Nan wrote on Mar 8, 2009 9:30 AM:
Small towns need more power over their own destinies as communities. Else they all stand to be overrun by companies who aren't allowed to locate in California itself.
This thing shouldn't be over by a long shot. Local politicians who line up behind these conglomerates need to be pushed out of office as a routine matter of course. Future candidates need to know the risk of turning over our communities to entities who do not have our local interests in mind at all.
Interesting wrote on Mar 7, 2009 9:16 PM:
everyman wrote on Mar 7, 2009 8:46 PM:
Like clockwork they will roll out the same, tired cut-and-paste arguments.
They won't give facts. They will give fear. Reader beware.
RB wrote on Mar 7, 2009 4:59 PM:
Yep, yessir, closer than say Oakland, or wherever in San Francisco Bay Area where most of this gas is destined to go. The Californians simply want those awful ships full of LNG to dock in Oregon, that's all. It just not so much to ask, is it?
Yea, yea, oh yea. We get to take the risk for products whose vast majority will be consumed in clean and safe Northern California. We ought to quit complaining. Let's just sit here and take it on the chin when California Lawyers threaten us too much.
Ain't this just great!!




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