Cannabis at work? Resident, agencies cite pros and cons

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For Coos Bay resident Jude Isaacson, obtaining a medical marijuana card was a dramatic turning point in her life. 

Isaacson had back surgery in 2000, and consequently developed a severe staph infection in her spine. As a result, Isaacson now has neurological damage, and in medical marijuana, said she has found a way to cope with each day.

“Two years ago, I was mostly in a wheelchair, had no energy and was very depressed. Not anymore,” Isaacson said.

Isaacson also suffers from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder she believes is the result of working 16 years as a 911 Dispatcher for the Coos Bay Police Department. She bowed out from her position, unable to take any more of the drama that clouded each day on the job.

 “Cannabis has brought me back. I can focus now,” she said.

She is one of the 755 Oregon Medical Marijuana Program patients in Coos County and is concerned about an effort to curtail medical marijuana rights. A business lobbying group is pushing a bill in the Oregon Legislature (Senate Bill 2497) to exempt employers from having to accommodate medical marijuana patients.

Plainly put, if an employee, who is legally authorized to medicate himself with marijuana, tests positive, it would be grounds for termination.

Advocates for The Drugfree Workplace Legislative Work Group are also working to banish some conditions that qualify patients, restrict approval of new conditions and require employers notification when a worker applies for a marijuana card.

Opposition

J.L. Wilson, vice president of government affairs for Associated Oregon Industries, sees medical marijuana as a liability for employers.

“Cardholders bring up a whole host of issues. None of which are good for business,” he said.

Wilson says that AOI has a council of about 30 companies, and many employers have horror stories about employing medical marijuana users and impairment on the job.

“In Oregon, employers are forced to accommodate something that’s federally illegal,”  Wilson says. “It’s a tough situation.”

Mimi Bushman, director of WorkDrugFree Oregon, said drugs are a tremendous social problem.

“It’s not just about safety. It’s a productivity issue,” Bushman said. “ Six billion dollars is the annual cost to Oregon for substance abuse. Four billion of those dollars is just in lost productivity. If you think about it, that’s what we’re paying for the entire kindergarten through twelfth grade education system in the state.”

Wayne Haythorn, associate of Mother Against Misuse and Abuse, contends all of the changes the group is proposing are designed to stir up fear, cripple the program and punish patients.

“I do not believe this bill is going to pass. It failed last time and it will fail again,” Haythorn said.

Bushman said Oregon is ranked higher than most states in indicators of substance abuse in the nation for workers. She said when her organization held forums around the state, most employers showed sympathy about patients needing pain relief, but ultimately, they were concerned about compassion conflicting with their employee drug policies.

Statistics

The Oregon Occupational Safety & Health Administration statistics seem to conflict, too. The administration’s findings show a decrease in workplace accident rates every year since the Oregon Medical Marijuana Program went into effect. From 2000-06, the leading cause of workplace fatalities was heart attack and cardiac arrest. OR-OSHA’s list does not reflect any findings of workplace fatalities due to impairment.

Health care providers can find it tough to straddle the line between the law and providing the relief patients need. Dr. Michelle Petrofes of Dunes Family Medical Clinic in Reedsport treats six medical marijuana patients now through strict criteria. She said she has to have an active care relationship with patients and that they have to have tried every other medication available first.

“I don’t just sign forms. It’s not my first line of treatment by any means,” Petrofes said. “Some patients I took care of between 15 and 20 years before I would sign their cards for them.”

Dr. Daniel Rusu, physical medicine and pain management expert at North Bend Medical Center, said a huge population of his patients request to be prescribed medical marijuana, but most don’t qualify.

Still, “more than 70 percent of my patients test positive for marijuana. Most of them don’t have cards,” he said. 

Rusu believes the battle over marijuana will continue, whether for medical or recreational purposes.

“There’s a contradiction between the Drug Enforcement Agency and Oregon law right now,” he said. “I do respect the law, so I advocate for it if patients have tried other medications that haven’t worked for them.”
Details

What: The Drugfree Workplace Legislative group is pushing for House Bill 2497 to pass. It would clarify that employers are not required to accommodate medical marijuana in the workplace under the Oregon Medical Marijuana Program.

The program: Allows more than 3,000 Oregon doctors to approve prescriptions for cardholders aiming to alleviate chronic pain.

Statistically: Voters approved the Medical Marijuana Program in 1998. There are 20,000 cardholders in the state, with more than 750 in Coos County, 295 in Curry County and 1,258 in Douglas County.



Oregon OSHA

http://www.cbs.state.or.us/osha

Associate Oregon Industries

http://www.aoi.org

Mothers Against Misuse and Abuse

http://www.mamas.org
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Regulations wrote on Mar 3, 2009 10:54 AM:

How de we have people with medical marijauna cards getting busted for selling? You know these people only lose their permit for 6 months and then get it back. Where are the regulations. Medical marijauna should be treated like any other over the counter drug. You get a prescription and fill it. Doctors should be aware if these people are abusing drugs. Example, using it for something other then pain. Doctors don't give you a vicodin card and say "Oh, just fill it whenever you need to." We need to regulate all drugs, to make sure people don't become dependent.

Madness wrote on Mar 3, 2009 10:39 AM:

You people have gotten way of subject. This article is not about the benefits or whether marijauna is dangerous or not. The fact is Employers have a right to know if you are under the influence of intoxicants. You wouldn't want some guy high on vicodin or cough medicine driving a fork lift, or operating a chainsaw. Would you want your doctor performing surgery while he was under the influence? How about your dentist? Even with a medical marijauna card, you can't smoke a bowl and go drive your car. Just try it, I'm sure you'll be arrested. I wonder how many medical marijauna users have DUIIs for marijauna? If you Have one you have to be responsible about it. Which means not smoking and driving and not using it, if your employer does UAs. If don't like it get a new job.

coos citizen wrote on Mar 3, 2009 10:26 AM:

REEFER MADNESS is and old saying that people used way back when no tests or research had been done. The government was afraid of marijauna and the only way they could control it was to make it look so dangerous that people wouldn't go near the stuff. Now we have thousands of independent labs doing their own research and giving people the truth. Probability is not something I want to play with when my health is in jeopardy.

coos citizen wrote on Mar 3, 2009 10:18 AM:

How many sources do you need. If you have the internet, google it and a list of numerous resources are at your finger tips. Is true that those tests in 1974 also used words like may and probably. Fact is cannabis MAY have reduced the size of these peoples tumors. But, what other factors are there to look at. Example, diet and exercise are huge factors in controling cancer and preventing it. There is no drug on the market that has no side effects that aren't damaging. Don't give me that "it's natural" bull. Opium is natural. Why don't you start smoking that!

fredamae wrote on Mar 3, 2009 5:18 AM:

"coos citizen wrote on Feb 27, 2009 8:09 PM:
Old research. Don't cite some test done back in 1974. Science is constantly getting better. Try searching "marijuana and testicular cancer" on google. In Feb. 2009 Scientists discovered Young males between the ages of 25-35. Who started smoking marijuana at an early age, and continued to smoke regularly. Are twice as likely to develope testicular cancer. Not normal testicular cancer but an aggressive form that is usually only seen in older males. I do my research."

The FACT they Knew the Cancer Fighting Benefits of Cannabis in 1974 is the Point! Yes, There ARE many more Modern State of the Art Studies Concluding Cannabis Kills Tumors. Testicular Cancer Is Not Rising Faster Than The Population. They use words like "may" and "possible"...They ADMIT these findings are Not conclusive.

Give me your resource! Until then, I Confidently advise that You Are Wrong! You use REEFER MADNESS to make people fear something that is Beneficial.

coos citizen wrote on Feb 27, 2009 8:09 PM:

Old research. Don't cite some test done back in 1974. Science is constantly getting better. Try searching "marijuana and testicular cancer" on google. In Feb. 2009 Scientists discovered Young males between the ages of 25-35. Who started smoking marijuana at an early age, and continued to smoke regularly. Are twice as likely to develope testicular cancer. Not normal testicular cancer but an aggressive form that is usually only seen in older males. I do my research.

fredamae wrote on Feb 26, 2009 8:05 AM:

Directly From the ONCDP Website re: UA's!

I wish I had found this earlier....
Hope some get to see this.

"What Does Each Test Measure?

Each type of test has different applications and is used to detect a specific drug or group of drugs. The Federal Drug-Free Workplace program, which serves as a model for accuracy and quality assurance in drug testing, relies on a urine test designed to detect the use of marijuana, opiates, cocaine, amphetamines, and phencyclidine (PCP). Urine tests can also be used to detect alcohol, LSD, and cotenine, the major metabolite of nicotine.

Following are summaries of the most commonly used tests:

Urine

Results of a urine test show the presence or absence of specific drugs or drug metabolites in the urine.Metabolites are drug residues that remain in the system for some time after the effects of the drug have worn off. A positive urine test does not necessarily mean the subject was under the influence of drugs at the time of the test. Rather, it detects and measures use of a particular drug within the previous few days."

fredamae wrote on Feb 25, 2009 6:01 AM:

coos citizen, I do Sincerely wish you and folks Like You would research Science before posting.
In 1974, the US Gov't HID Scientific Findings of the Cancer Fighting Qualities of Cannabis. Look up "Phoenix Tears; Rune From The Cure, Cannabis Oil Cancer CURE."

A couple years ago, UCSF completed a Study that Proves Cancer Cells are Starved because Cannabis Blocks Oxygen Rich Blood from Feeding Tumors and they Shrank.

No one Has to Smoke Cannabis, there are Many Alternatives for Medicating; however, Regardless Cannabis REDUCES And PREVENTS Cancer.
Cannabis Does NOT Increase Incidence Of Cancer. PERIOD!
This Myth was a Lie before And Now WE Have Scientific Proof! You, on the other hand, Do Not!

There is NO PROOF That Testicular Cancer Is Increasing At A Rate Higher Than Population Growth. REEFER MADNESS, again.

Research, Before spewing "REEFER MADNESS"!
Those words give us all a good laugh though. Most people do research and have therefore learned Common Sense and Scientific Realities of Cannabis Consumption.
To Truly Improve Workplace Safety! Use Impairment Testing In The Workplace!
UA's Are A Waste Of Business And Corporate Dollars because They Do Not, Cannot Measure Impairment!

coos citizen wrote on Feb 23, 2009 3:54 PM:

This debate will go on indefinetly. People will never agree on wether we should legalize marijuana. More traffic accidents are caused by alcohol. More cancer related deaths are caused by cigarettes. So..should we ban these drugs. Paint it anyway you want, they are all drugs and not good for your body. For those of you who say "marijuana helped me cope. I don't want to be addicted to some pill." You are still trading one drug for another. Yes, you are addicted if you need to use it to cope with pain and stress. And furthermore, to those who say marijuana isn't dangerous. Do your research. One marijuana joint has 4 times more tar than one cigarette.(what do you think that black resin is built up on your pipe. It's in your lungs too.) Listen up guyz! Marijuana has also been linked to testicular cancer. Check it out. Be informed.

fredamae wrote on Feb 21, 2009 8:06 AM:

"But I also know, that some of those people that grow their own pot are selling to their friends and friends of friends. The one's that are legally doing what they are supposed to and are not going against the law should be left alone. I get irked when people cannot go on live their lives and be left alone."

Where is the Harm? When people say "they break the law"...Well, since No harm is surfacing by their acts, then why not Recognize it is the Laws, Rules and Policies that are causing public harm, Not Cannabis? Course of Action? Change the Laws!
Were it Not for the Laws, No one would know Most even use this herb, for pleasure Or Medical.

No one is safer for having a Cannabis consumer Locked up, but Law Enforcement keeps their budgets as does the Prison Industrial Complex.
Who Profits from Prohibition?
$10Billion Tax Dollars Annually for Just Cannabis Eradication, Oregon's Share is about 1% of that. We should be spending this on Treatment for Dangerous Drugs! Are You, the Tax Payer getting Any ROI?
Impairment Testing in the Workplace, End Prohibition. Lets get Sensible about this issue.

I have an idea wrote on Feb 20, 2009 11:08 PM:

Hey guys.. Let's figure out where what a shame lives and all get together for a little smoke out at 4:20 sound like a plan?

Concerned wrote on Feb 20, 2009 10:37 PM:

Honestly people!! Alcohol should be illegal!!! The thing is the government can tax alcohol and cannot figure out how to do that with pot.... More people are damaged by alcohol than have ever been by this herb.!!!

AnneofOregon wrote on Feb 20, 2009 4:45 PM:

Make me laugh, "What a shame."
We should be more afraid of lunatics with guns than we should of medicinal marijuana users.
You gonna shoot people on Vicodin, too? Hope you got a good lawyer!

What a Shame wrote on Feb 20, 2009 1:25 PM:

I have a sign up around my property that says "If you are reading this sign, you are within range". That especially includes all you so called "legal medical" tweekers. You are no better than the meth, or coke user and I will not tolarate you being around me or my family or on my property.

2 the christians wrote on Feb 20, 2009 11:51 AM:

If god created earth.. That means he created marijuana.. So...what's the big deal then?

Bandon Guy wrote on Feb 20, 2009 11:30 AM:

If the U.S government would legalize, regulate, and tax the use of Marijuana, the economy would turn around in a matter of months, and every american citizen would not have to pay anywhere near the amount of taxes they are now. Here's an idea: Make tabacco illegal,(since it kills people) and the big tabacco companies can start producing mary jane packaged for sale. But the U.S government is not smart enough to do that. Oh yeah and you wouldnt have the millions of people in prison for crimes associated to the herb. It's a win-win situation.

fredamae wrote on Feb 20, 2009 6:05 AM:

All "What A Shame" can produce are Police records that demonstrate, Possibly, someone under the influence of Hard Drugs who May Also test Positive for Cannabis Metabolites. W.A.S. Cannot SCIENTIFICALLY Prove Cannabis Causes Violence. Even Withdrawals (if experienced at all) are Not As Bad As "kicking the drug, Caffeine".
...and "they" really depend upon Our ignorance and Willingness to "just go along" and believe Everything we are told.
WOW.

Impairment Testing Belongs In The Workplace, Not U.A.'s
UA's Do Nothing To Improve Workplace Safety! But They Do Cost Employers A Lot Of Money.

fredamae wrote on Feb 20, 2009 5:46 AM:

Now for te rest, Look at these Initiatives coming up in 2010
Ini 31, Ini 32 and Ini 33
http://egov.sos.state.or.us/elec/web_irr_search.search_form
They Want the Oregon Medical Marijuana Act REPEALED and EVERYONE to be forced to use a Synthetic, INEFFECTIVE BIGPharma Replacement Drug that Will cost Oregon Taxpayers A LOT of money. Marinol etc costs about $1800.00 per month per patient.

Not a Mary User wrote on Feb 19, 2009 7:15 PM:

I wasn't going to put in my 2 cents here, but, here goes. I know that having a card that says you are legal to grow your own pot and only to a limit. But I also know, that some of those people that grow their own pot are selling to their friends and friends of friends. I think it is sad that those people do not get caught. The one's that are legally doing what they are supposed to and are not going against the law should be left alone. I get irked when people cannot go on live their lives and be left alone. I also get very irked when the DEA don't do their jobs when some of this dealing is right under your noses.

AnneofOregon wrote on Feb 19, 2009 3:26 PM:

To What A Shame:
Those of us that have a prescription for medical marijuana generally GROW OUR OWN so we don't need to steal. And no, we don't NEED dope to kill the pain, we have found that the use of marijuana is a better alleviate of the pain than other, more traditional forms of medicine, like Percocet or Vicodin. Ever heard of alternative medicine? Marijuana has been used medically for hundred if not thousands of years by many cultures. Read a little ~ you might learn something.

Medicated wrote on Feb 19, 2009 2:43 PM:

To What A Shame...
please show me a police report where it states that someone under the influence of 'M' has been caught stealing or doing a crime for that matter.
you are thinking of a tweeker. Tweekers are the ones who rob and steal. Please do some research.
And do you take pills for stuff like headaches or muscle aches? I cant - im allergic and the medical card has helped me live and function. I am not a dope head or stoner - in fact i have probably seen you around town.

why not wrote on Feb 19, 2009 12:42 PM:

Legalize it. Tax it. Control it just like liquor. Use the money to keep our schools open.

TO WHAT A SHAME wrote on Feb 19, 2009 10:40 AM:

Are you sure you aren't talking about the "Crack Heads of Coos County"?

Robbing, stealing and breaking and entering - I hate to tell you - is not the M.O. of someone stoned on pot. Now - go check out WalMart at 2 or 3am and you'll find the culprits...

Have you ever met an angry "pothead"? I haven't. Although, I've met angry people who were angry before they smoked a doobie!

Educate yourself about the cannibis culture before you go bashing it and comparing it to the "dope" game - which btw - in Coos County usually refers to METH.

420 wrote on Feb 19, 2009 10:30 AM:

To What A Shame: I've smoked Marijuana for 15 years and have never robbed,stolen,lied or cheated.I pay my taxes and I graduated from college.Stop clumping marijuana users in the same category as the rest of the drug users.. You have no clue what you are talking about and that is very APPARENT in not only your lack of intelligence but your lack of a valid argument against why marijuana is bad. Get a life and leave the rest of us to live ours freely to do what we want to our bodies. As long as there is no harm towards our fellow man I see nothing wrong in the use of Marijuana..

Coos Bayanian wrote on Feb 19, 2009 10:06 AM:

I do not think people realize the rules involved with a Medical MJ Card...The Main one is...You cannot "toke" up whenever where ever you feel like it. You can only use it in the privacy of YOUR OWN HOUSE...not in you car while on your lunch break. My mother works for the postal service and has allergies. She went through ALOT of medications before she found one that did not list DROWINESS as a side effect before she was able to drive for them. And I agree UAs are not a reasonable test to see if someone is "high" at the time of the test. It can take upto a month for MJ to work through a bod's system

New-to-Area wrote on Feb 19, 2009 8:41 AM:

I figure if you have end-stage cancer or some other affliction where you're in constant pain, it's fine. But I think people would lie to potential employers to be able to get high anytime they want. The world is too swept up in drugs, and having only lived here for a few months, I notice this area is HEAVILY into drug use. It's a frightening notion.

What a Shame wrote on Feb 19, 2009 8:24 AM:

TO ALL YOU LEGAL DOPERS: The only reason this medical dope law passed was that all of you dopers got together and passed the measure. If you need dope to deal with the pain, you should be put in a protected enviorment, like jail, where you cannot bother anyone else in the public while you are taking "your pain killer". You may have a "pain" problem, but you dopers are causing the non users more pain than you have by robbing, stealing, breaking into our homes and vehicles, just to get the money to purchase your "medical leagal dope". And I will say it again, "DOPE IS DOPE NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT".

It is hard to get our political people to get laws passed reguarding dope and booze because they don't want any of their relatives put in jail.

Legalize It wrote on Feb 19, 2009 6:30 AM:

Dope is Dope???!!!

So you don't approve of morphine or oxycontin or Valium or Xanax, either.

I hope you never get any painful disease to test your resolve.

Vern Detmueller wrote on Feb 18, 2009 5:38 PM:

Essentially what I see here is: If you want to use any type of medication to ease your suffering, then do like the rest of the Bay Area does- get hooked on Prescription Pain meds, which, incidentally, have a list of side effects far worse than anything pot can do. I've tried most of the drugs you will find out there, even illegal ones, and of them all, Marijuana had less of a negative effect on me. If you prefer not to use Marijuana, then don't, but don't come at someone with experience and tell them nonsense about what Marijuana is about, especially when you have never even tried it.

Currently, I refuse Pharmaceutical Candy and for good reason: There's a good reason why most of them are habit forming- MONEY. Pharms won't keep making money if you don't come back. Pharms even profit from illicit sales of their meds. Pharmaceuticals care nothing about you beyond the green in your pocket.

Take a close look at "The Drugfree Workplace Legislative group" and House Bill 2497. The biggest backers of this bill are the Pharmaceuticals, as it always is when Medical Marijuana comes up on the ballots.

fredamae wrote on Feb 18, 2009 4:30 PM:

"Is it so hard to stick to main issue? The issue concerns THC and it's various efffects on the central nervous system. People who use marijuana, for medicinal or recreational purposes, should not be at work and should not be driving around. If someone has THC in their system and is at work, they shold be terminated, regardless of when they toked."

You are Wrong, try using Science as your guide instead of Outdated Mis-information/Propaganda!
My statement IS on subject! LOL, We are talking about Workplace Safety. If that is the concern...Then Lets get Serious and Include ALL causes of Impairment since You seem to believe (mis-informed) that Cannabis Patients are Impaired because of UA results.

Pure and Simple, Employers are getting fleeced by Drug Testing services and UA Manufacturers...They Believe their employees are Not impaired, but that is Just a False Sense of Security.
I think you already know that, however.

fredamae wrote on Feb 18, 2009 4:20 PM:

"DOPE IS DOPE NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT AND ALL OF IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL."

You only believe that because of "REEFER MADNESS".
Cannabis is Still Medicine and Was Medicine Before Prohibition.
You drank the Same Kool-Aid I did, the difference Is; I threw mine away to choose Compassion and Common Sense.

What a Shame wrote on Feb 18, 2009 2:00 PM:

DOPE IS DOPE NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT AND ALL OF IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL.

OReally wrote on Feb 18, 2009 1:52 PM:

To Kaye wrote on Feb 18, 2009 11:36 AM:

"I've smoked pot since I was a freshman in high school and I've managed to hold down a great job.. A great family and well just a great life.. ALL WHILE SMOKING MARIJUANA.."

This guy must be in a UNION!!!!

To Kaye wrote on Feb 18, 2009 11:36 AM:

So.. If pot is legalized people will just start showing up to the operatory lit like a christmas tree? really? Come on now.. I'm more concerned with a doctor who got trashed the night before on vodka than I am a doctor who smoked a joint the day before AFTER he was off work.. See when you wake up in the morning after a day of pot smoking you feel no different.. Sure some times if you hit the bong really hard you might get a little mild "hangover" mild headache kinda just a sense of blahness .. That wears off in a few hours.. Alcohol well.. WE all know what alcohol does to you.. SO give it a rest.. I've smoked pot since I was a freshman in high school and I've managed to hold down a great job.. A great family and well just a great life.. ALL WHILE SMOKING MARIJUANA.. Something most alcholics can't do..

Yes we can nabis wrote on Feb 18, 2009 11:17 AM:

Marijuana prohibition needlessly destroys the lives and careers of literally hundreds of thousands of good, hard-working, productive citizens each year in this country.
More than 700,000 Americans were arrested on marijuana charges last year, and more than 5 million Americans have been arrested for marijuana offenses in the past decade.
Almost 90 percent of these arrests are for simple possession, not trafficking or sale.
This is a misapplication of the criminal sanction that invites government into areas of our private lives that are inappropriate and wastes valuable law enforcement resources that should be focused on serious and violent crime.

Jethro McConnegal wrote on Feb 18, 2009 10:30 AM:

I see this as a battle between the pill poppers and the pot smokers.

reader wrote on Feb 18, 2009 9:42 AM:

To Kaye... have you ever been in such pain that you wanted to die? YOu may smoke to get high, but some of us do it in order to live another day without wanting to die because of the pain we have. I can not take medications that are made in a laboratory. I am allergic to many of the pain medications. I have a college degree and i am a card holder. Being a card holder has allowed me to work again and to function in this world. Not sit at home and be stoned. I also do not use ANY state assistance. My needs are all met by my working for it. Before i needed state assistance for everything. I would rather go to work and allow someone else to use the assistance who really needs it.

Shallow Al wrote on Feb 18, 2009 8:18 AM:

Kaye:

It's illegal to drive while under the influence of alcohol. A Dr. doing something wrong with a patient and being sued for alcohol use on the job is a no-no.

Once, in this country, it was illegal to use, consume or be in possesion of alcohol. Now they advertise it in front of your kids on TV.

How is your double standard today?

fredamae wrote on Feb 18, 2009 8:09 AM:

Holding onto a "non-reality" bit of information because you have Not educated Yourself is one thing, but when you Hold onto that Same information After you are given a different Opinion that disagrees with your own AND then you maintain Mis-Information that is Untrue, the Buck for ignorance stops at your doors.

Cannabis Consumers Are Not Impaired 2-4 Hours Post Titration! Testing Positive For Cannabis Metabolites Does Not Infer, Indicate, Substantiate, Confirm and other wise in Any for VERIFY IMPAIRMENT! From The Science Comes Verification That UA Results Do Not Measure Impairment!

If Any Of You Want Safety Increased Then You Must Measure Impairment Levels and Not Substance Consumption!

Take this Demo Test!
http://www.bowles-langley.com/ACAccess.pdf

geez wrote on Feb 18, 2009 8:07 AM:

Ya know what lady? I'm more worried about slipping and falling in my bathtub!

Legalize It wrote on Feb 18, 2009 7:44 AM:

"...Nicotine, Caffeine, Sugar and OTC Allergy and Flu Preparations... All can impair and ALL affect our Bodily function."

Is it so hard to stick to main issue? The issue concerns THC and it's various efffects on the central nervous system. People who use marijuana, for medicinal or recreational purposes, should not be at work and should not be driving around. If someone has THC in their system and is at work, they shold be terminated, regardless of when they toked. If someone is at home dying of cancer, why should anyone else care if they toke to ease the pain. By the way, I am also in favor of assisted suicide in the case of terminal illness or intractable coma, if a living directive is signed in front of a notary and witnesses. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

someone who cares for others wrote on Feb 18, 2009 7:42 AM:

to kaye. do you think that being high is really going to effect someone that much. you have no idea what the heck you are talking about!! pot improves concentration and motor skills.it's people like you who are holding people back from funcioning and being happy.you only care about yourself and your an uneducated hypocric!!!!what are you a nazi too!?
GOOD LUCK TO YOU!

Kaye wrote on Feb 18, 2009 7:15 AM:

to all the potheads out there:
good luck when you are killed by someone driving stoned or your cab driver is high.
Good luck when you have surgery and your doctor is high in the workplace.
Good luck with a stoned dentist.
you expect people working sober, if you could be affected, right?
isn't this a double standard?

Families wrote on Feb 17, 2009 7:35 PM:

Does anyone care about the families who have lost thier job because of a dirty UA? I think not they are worried about the company.(the big wigs) Not the family that now has no income to pay the house,keep the car going and feed the family. I do not support lazy pot smokers who abuse others, don't work and are self centered. I support those that are trying to be a functioning part of society trying to work, be a family member, take care of thier family and are responsible to do so while paying taxes.

on the job wrote on Feb 17, 2009 7:24 PM:

If anyone is impaired from any sort of drug, smoking etc. they should not be at work. Random urine test do not tell the true story. There are ways to tell if one is high, the cops do it every day. Why has our society gave up affordable treatment centers, counseling when our lives are more stressed everyday. We are going to end up in a country that know one is working, I can not tell you how many people work at odd jobs, or not at all that are cabable to work but can't pass a urine test because they smoked on the week-end. what is this world coming to? Know wonder our youth feel there is no future. Doesnt anyone think Doctors who have went to school for 8 or more years know anything about approving medical marijuana cards. Please I would think they would know.Oh, yeah opps! we wouldn't want to take any money from the pill pushers the Drug Companies. My desire would be that doctors require counseling with a medical card also.

Please wrote on Feb 17, 2009 6:59 PM:

This is about companies or industries,insurance companies,and society not wanting to deal with the issues that they might have to rewrite some of thier policies around medical card holders. And how about some counseling,pain management, bio-feed back, accupunture, what ever it takes.

what wrote on Feb 17, 2009 6:49 PM:

I can not believe the ignorance around the use of medical marijuana. If you DO NOT SMOKE DURING WORK HOURS you are not high. A police officer can check you out and tell if you are high. The goverment and alot of other people are making bucks off the whole mess. If it was regulated, along with counseling and pain management the use would lessen and our society might just start to get healthy. What about all the veitnam Vets there are alot with cards did they ask to end up with Post-Traumatic Stress? I will agree it can be abused as anything, shopping, drinking,over eating, pain pill,gambling, etc. But when a person is responsible, working STRAIGHT(smoking on off hours) it is not anyones business. What year are we in?

Shallow Al wrote on Feb 17, 2009 5:13 PM:

To those who oppose the medical uses, and for that matter, the recreational use of cannabis, ever have a drink to unwind with?

Tax it and allow those who choose to use it deal with any side affects

Cigarettes are legal!

I think we have a real dope problem in this are. There are far too many dopes!

Joe Bad wrote on Feb 17, 2009 11:55 AM:

Dr. Rusu states that more than 70 percent of his patients test positive for marijuana.
I would like to know why is Dr. Rusu testing his paients for marijuana?

Anywhere but here wrote on Feb 17, 2009 11:04 AM:

Mr E

Could you be ANY MORE stereotypical? Open your mind for chrissakes and allow yourself to think outside the crap that programmed your thinking.

Yes we cannabis wrote on Feb 17, 2009 10:29 AM:

*By ending marijuana prohibition, not only would we create new tax revenue streams, but our communities would be able to redirect the $10-15 billion dollars of criminal justice resources annually wasted chasing, arresting and jailing marijuana users and re-dedicate those precious dollars to finding lost children, tracking sex offenders or to catching and convicting rapists and murderers.

*The re-legalization of marijuana in America would prevent the arrest of at least 900,000 people next year from their adding to the more than 20-million already arrested for pot since 1965.

*The re-legalization of cannabis would also allow America’s farmers to grow industrial hemp so that Detroit’s bail-out cars could be produced with domestically grown hemp fibers in their door panels, not foreign-grown, and that goes double for all the hemp in the hundreds of beauty and health food products that line the shelves of our nation’s stores.
NORML.ORG

NORML wrote on Feb 17, 2009 10:27 AM:

"Drug prohibition is America’s most tragically failed social policy since slavery,” said Jeffery Steinborn, a Yale-educated lawyer who has practiced criminal defense law for over 40-years in Seattle.
The human and personal costs to the 20-million Americans who have been arrested on marijuana charges are so high they are near impossible to calculate.
Are we too stupid to collect taxes on America’s multi-billion dollar marijuana business?? Our government has listed marijuana as one America’s most valuable agricultural crops every year for over the last quarter of a century—as marijuana will be again, next year. So, when is America going to WAKE UP AND TAX IT!!!??

fredamae wrote on Feb 17, 2009 9:56 AM:

"Decriminalize pot first. Write your workplace policies to state that urinalysis will occur at random times and have your employees sign a discosure agreement, that if they choose to smoke pot and it shows up in their pee, they lose the job. It's all about informed consent and informed choices. As for me, I prefer my bus drivers, teachers, and crane operators to be drug free. IF they should choose to use, then they need to agree to be fired if THC shows up in their urine, whether or not they are stoned at work. Anyone fired from a job for THC must not be eligible for unemployment or other taxpayer assistance. As for sick folks using pot, the issue should be moot; if they need to smoke weed to function or manange pain, they should not be at work, period."

Is this Consideration/Policy of Drugs ONLY for Cannabis or ALL drugs to include Nicotine, Caffeine, Sugar and OTC Allergy and Flu Preparations?
All can impair and ALL affect our Bodily function.

JUGGERNAUT wrote on Feb 17, 2009 8:15 AM:

Is not this country in enough of a depression.You test everyone, then most people will be positive. It's your lawyer, judge, policeman, doctor, senator, const. worker. More than half of everybody in this country would be out of a job ! You all just don't understand. What kind of a crisis would our nation be in then !
Just legalize it ! People are going to use it anyway.
You just can't stop it !!
FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO TOKE !!!

to Mr. E wrote on Feb 17, 2009 6:38 AM:

"Most people who use pot (legally or not) do so without your knowledge."

You must be one of those parents that when your kids came home smashed on alcohol you couldn' tell either I'll bet.

Myself, not living under a rock with blinders on, can tell a mile away. Some not so subtle clues you might open your eyes to include the stuporous dazed look, lethargy, confusion, many others, as well as the ever present stench emanating from them. Some verbal clues include randomly exclaiming "huh," "whoa," and "dude!" while searching for the nearest bag of Frito's.

Legalize It wrote on Feb 17, 2009 1:41 AM:

Decriminalize pot first. Write your workplace policies to state that urinalysis will occur at random times and have your employees sign a discosure agreement, that if they choose to smoke pot and it shows up in their pee, they lose the job. It's all about informed consent and informed choices. As for me, I prefer my bus drivers, teachers, and crane operators to be drug free. IF they should choose to use, then they need to agree to be fired if THC shows up in their urine, whether or not they are stoned at work. Anyone fired from a job for THC must not be eligible for unemployment or other taxpayer assistance. As for sick folks using pot, the issue should be moot; if they need to smoke weed to function or manange pain, they should not be at work, period.

GOOD LUCK wrote on Feb 16, 2009 10:04 PM:

There is no way this bill will ever pass in Oregon. Take this crap to the south. And for you people worrying whether someone decides to use marijuana for medicine OR recreation in their own homes, live your own lives. The fact is that you don't have to use marijuana AT work for you to be fired because of it. It is actually the only drug they are looking for, because other, harder drugs are out of you system in a day or two.

I agree that people who work heavy, deadly machinery should not be intoxicated while at work. But what if he wants to partake in a puff on the weekend? That will get him fired. Heroin or meth would be fine, out of your system much quicker.

Bewildered wrote on Feb 16, 2009 9:57 PM:

Maybe I am missing something here, but shouldn't employment be based on job performance? If you go to work stoned, drunk,hung over, or wired on meth, of course your productivity will suffer. I happen to think random drug testing is akin to random traffic stops, random searches and so forth. Is this any worse than gun control because you MIGHT murder someone? How about just giving everyone at work a lie detector test in case they may have stolen something? What else is next, a brain scan for mental disorders? Isn't this the sort of thing a free society should take a stand against? And what about the small chance of an innocent person testing falsly positive? I think we need to base judgemnents on charachter, and past work history. We don't need employers and insurance companies using drug tests as an excuse to find out other things beyond a persons control such as diabetes, for example. Citizens, wake up!

Former Resident wrote on Feb 16, 2009 4:44 PM:

I have two words for you all: Michael Phelps.

So before you get on your tangent about "potheads" being lazy, worthless and good for nothing...

Just remember that one of the most famous US Athletes who won FOURTEEN gold medals at the OLYMPICS is... gasp!... a "pothead". And chances are - so are your neighbors - your doctors - your children's teacher - childs' best friend's parent - the list goes on and on.

Over half of the American population admits to smoking marajuana - regularly. And guest what? Not all of them are on welfare!

We'll save that for the meth heads and teen parents. Get a grip.

And in the words of Ben Harper -'before you knock it - try it first'. All things in moderation my friends. 'Nuff said.

so true wrote on Feb 16, 2009 3:31 PM:

Sequkid has it....right on the money. Its all about the $$$.

Mr E wrote on Feb 16, 2009 3:28 PM:

Some of you advocate a removal of the rights of citizens, because your rights as an employee are taken away? Okay then. That's rational.

Also, nearly killed because of a marijuana user? No person working with machinery should be allowed to be inebriated from ANY drug (legal or not), so if that took place with you, then your grievance should be with your employer, as well as the lunatic who should never have been in that position.

Most jobs do not require that level of caution. Most people who use pot (legally or not) do so without your knowledge.

CB wrote on Feb 16, 2009 3:08 PM:

I am mostly against drugs, but for a person in pain, why shouldn't they be able to do whatever it takes to make the pain less.
People not in pain seem able to get and take all kinds of drugs, so why make it illegal for a person in pain to smoke pot.
Just don't put them in a job that could hurt anyone else on the job.
I am in pain all the time, and can't take anything that don't make me sick, and I wish I could take something. I don't smoke tho and don't want to start with pot...

Kaye wrote on Feb 16, 2009 2:59 PM:

it's funny you can tell the pot heads from the way they spell.
goes to show how it "does not affect you". No drunks, no pill poppers, no drug users in the workplace please. How would you like if you had surgery and your doctor had smoked some weed before?
It's all or nothing. If drunk driving is dangerous, driving high is the same. Are the pot smokers going to walk to work?

sisqkid wrote on Feb 16, 2009 2:30 PM:

The only reason pot is not legal is because of the kickbacks given to the politicians by the drug companies. Have you peole listened to any of the pill commercials on tv? the list of possible side effects is about two thirds of the commercial. No one in their right mind can say that kickbacks dont control this country. Its the golden rule. He who has the gold, makes the rules.

Rick wrote on Feb 16, 2009 2:19 PM:

Why do all pot smokers think it has no affect on them? My wife's ex husband is a pot smoker. She said he went from a great guy before he started toking to a lazy worthless bum after he had been smoking pot for a few years. Wake up people. Pot smoking does affect you. We do not need it in the work force or in our homes.

zool wrote on Feb 16, 2009 1:15 PM:

I have to agree with both Coos Bayanian and Anne of Oregon. I'd like to know what CA does for workers with Medical Cards.
And it is private... I totally disagree with notifying your employer of a Medical Card!

affected but clean wrote on Feb 16, 2009 1:09 PM:

I am a hard working tax payer who married a medical card holder, who also payes taxes. The sad part is he never used before work, during work and held a job for over 20 years. Now due to a urine test during work hours he has lost his job, pot stays in urine for at least 6-8 weeks. He has no unemployment and will probably lose his home, car. He had never had accident on work time and came to work everyday. His doctor prescribed his card for muscle spasm's which occur during the night in his back, muscle relaxers were to strong and made him sick. I do not understand how alcoholics are allowed to go to work hung over or still drunk and everyone turns there head, because it is considered legal? There are innocent family members who are effected by the results of the gray laws and industries policies around medical card holders. Maybe society sound look at the big picture who are they hurting? Children and families are still effected and have NO say in the whole matter. They also become homeless and hungry

pills wrote on Feb 16, 2009 1:02 PM:

Many of you are missing the point entirely of the OMMP. This program is not full of drug abusers.. People are using marijuana as a natural means to deadly addictive alternatives such as opiates.. The whole point of the marinol debate is it does not provide pain relief on the same level as marijuana does, marinol has it's own list of adverse side affects entirely different from just the basic flower off the marijuana plant, as with every synthetic. Please remember these people are using marijuana as a medicine, stereotypes in the lazy stoner are very typical of the ignorant people who have not been educated about the medicinal properties.

Jethro wrote on Feb 16, 2009 11:45 AM:

If we are going to discriminate against one form of medicine, then discriminate against them all. Employers should demand that their employees be free of ALL pain medications. You can get killed just as easily by Judy who takes Norco for her rheumatoid arthritis just as fast as you can by Joe who takes cannabis for his arthritis. Just because federal law says a drug can be prescribed doesn't mean it is safe.

BAN ALL MEDS FROM THE WORKPLACE.

fredamae wrote on Feb 16, 2009 10:16 AM:

Dear "a email I once had",

As Long As Every Type of Drug use is Included, Legal and etc. Booze, Caffeine, Nicotine, Tylenol and etc.

Is this Not what DrugFree Oregon is All about?
In Addition, How about INCLUDING Doctors,Law Enforcement (Currently Exempt from Drug Testing), Judges, Lawmakers, OLCC workers, The Governor, EVERY PERSON who Makes their LIVING From the Expenditure of My Tax Dollars, they too Must pass a UA.
Oh, What do you ask a UA to tell us?

a email I once had wrote on Feb 16, 2009 8:55 AM:

Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay
my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order
to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test with which I
have no problem. What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my
taxes to=20 people who don't have to pass a urine test.
Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I
have to pass one to earn it for them? Please understand, I have no
problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, have
a problem with helping someone sitting on their rump - --,doing drugs,
while I work. . . . Can you imagine how much money the state would save if
people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check?
I guess we could title that program, 'Urine or You're Out'.
Hope you all
will pass it along, though. Something has to change in this country --
and soon!!!!!!!

absurd wrote on Feb 16, 2009 8:30 AM:

It is easy to point the finger at pot while the big problem here is meth. What the heck is the matter with you people ! I've known alot of people with serious pain problems that took their doctors advice and become addicted to pills and it killed them slow and horrible. There is no difference between oxycontin and heroin. Oxys are even stronger than most street heroin. As far as work related accidents that is absurd!
How many people come to work on an alcohol hangover sick as a dog or even miss alot of work.But alcohol is the biggest killer in the nation and that is ok! you people are hypocrits and you should be educating yourselves. Pot never hurt anyone. If there was an accident at your work it was because that person was naturally an idiot not because they smoked a joint you redneck!

Leave others to their own business and mind your own.
Pot needs to be legal for those with all kinds of problems. Welcome to the 21st century.
You all need to go to the library and get some brains!!!

fredamae wrote on Feb 16, 2009 8:28 AM:

Cannabis Prohibition Does Nothing to Increase Safety for the Public, I am NO Safer for having a Cannabis Consumer behind bars! Furthermore, it Only seems to serve the Budgets of Law Enforcement Agencies, Drug Rehab Facilities, Drug Testing Companies/Services (UA's), The Prison Industrial Complex and etc.

Prohibitionists are Clearly the Minority And OUR Own Lawmakers Generally Support Them!

Where Does Your State Senator, State Representative, US Senator's and US Congress person(s)stand on this issue?

fredamae wrote on Feb 16, 2009 8:28 AM:

Speaking of Feds: Currently WE Tax Payers are spending $10 BILLION EVERY Year on JUST Cannabis Eradication Programs....PLUS another $1 Billion for Incarceration costs to Keep Cannabis Consumers Locked Up!
This Costs Oregonians about 1% (Percent) of the Total $11,000,000,000.00($11 Billion)
How is it that the "Opposing views" here share No proof there Is a Problem with OMMP Cardholders in the Work Place, No Science, No Argument to the Gov't Findings that workplace Accident rates are Falling in Spite of the OMMP Program?
How Can They? OMMP Cardholders Are Not Increasing Workplace Harzards/Dangers!
600,000 Will die this year from Adverse reactions to Legal Drug Use, not abuse.

All Illegal Drug use Combined with take 17,000 lives by comparison.
Cannabis= Zero Fatalities.
The Most Dangerous Element Surrounding Cannabis Consumption Are The Laws, Rules and Policies Governing It's Use, and YOU Know it!

To Pills wrote on Feb 16, 2009 5:16 AM:

Pills wrote: "marinol has many adverse side affects in it's synthesized, pure state such as "feeling "high," drowsiness, dizziness, confusion, anxiety, changes in mood, muddled thinking, perceptual difficulties, coordination impairment, irritability, and depression""

And those "adverse" side affects differ in what way from smoking a joint? LOL. Those are all classic "side effects" of smoking mj, many of which are DESIRED "side effects."

The feds need to sweep Oregon and California and clean house. I'd love nothing more than to see them threaten, and follow through if needed, to deny any and all federal funds to these states that choose to disregard federal drug laws. I'd be moving to another state, laughing throughout the whole drive.

is this for real wrote on Feb 16, 2009 5:10 AM:

I'd be curious how one of these potheads would explain how a drunk person at work would be wrong, but someone stoned poses no problems whatsoever.

Anyone that says there is no comparison between the two needs to have their head examined. I'm sorry, but if you wanna get stoned, sit in your own home and suck down some Obama benefits while you toke up, but don't make me work next to you and pick up your slack.

Californian wrote on Feb 16, 2009 1:38 AM:

BAN IT lives in the dark ages. I hope he never gets cancer like my hard-working mom who raised 4 of us on a grocerly clerk's income and never abused any drug. It was a little herb that made her passing so much easier.

fredamae wrote on Feb 15, 2009 9:55 AM:

This issue Must be Put To Rest.
Cannabis, as contentious an issue as it is, is Still Medicine.
It is Not a Moral Dilemma, It Is A Consideration of Compassion towards our Sick and Hurting. At What Point does the Comfort and Wellbeing of our Friends and Family sink Below Compassion and Become a Moral Crusade Driven by People Who Are Not Using Science As Their Guide to rational Thinking? This Issue Is No Longer About Getting “Stoned”…Tho, “they” will tell you it is. It is about Health Care. Period.
Are you as disconnected as those who Create Solutions to Problems that Do Not exist?
Is Your Lawmaker Disconnected from reality as well?
Who Profits From Cannabis Prohibition?
When Will Cannabis Become A Matter Of Health Care And Not A Political Issue?
Talk to your Local Senator and Representatives!
Enough Discrimination Towards OMMP Participants.

fredamae wrote on Feb 15, 2009 9:54 AM:

If you Check the State of Oregon Website, you Will discover the Workplace Accident and Incident And Fatality Rates Have Steadily DECLINED Since The OMMA became Law in 1998!
The Burden upon Social Services Has Declined because people are seeing doctors Less and Need Prescriptions Less!

fredamae wrote on Feb 15, 2009 9:53 AM:

To: “justaguy wrote on Feb 13, 2009 3:24 PM:
“I was nearly killed on a construction site by a marijuana user. What makes a "medical" user think they have the right to endanger others while they alleviate their own pain?”

Just because the UA resulted Positive Does Not Mean He/She was Impaired From It At The Time Of The Accident!

Any OMMP cardholder who is still Physically Capable of Working Does not Want to Work in An Unsafe Work Environ Either!
So you see, Cannabis Patients Do Not Pose Any Threat That Is Unique to Cannabis Therapy.
Medical Cannabis Patients Do Not Ask To Have Use At Work Accommodated! Period

fredamae wrote on Feb 15, 2009 9:52 AM:

Impairment can be caused from a myriad of Non-Substance related sources. Back Pain, Migraines, Financial Stress, Emotional Distress caused from a death in the family, money worries, divorce, pending marriages and births etc. Physical Illness, Medical Treatments such as Chemo (causes cognitive impairment) and anyone suffering from Sleep Deprivation can only function at a Level equal to a Person testing 0.05 BAC.
We can all understand how impaired a person suffering an Alcohol Induced hangover is, or Legal Prescribed drug use and etc.

fredamae wrote on Feb 15, 2009 9:49 AM:

What we All should be focusing on is Impairment, Actual impairment. There is No evidence proving that OMMP Cardholders carry an increased and unique danger to the public, co-workers and the public by virtue of participating in this Health Care Program.
If Employers are truly concerned about workplace safety then Impairment Testing will be implemented and the UA will be dismissed. UA's do Nothing to improve Workplace Safety, period. . They are Not designed to demonstrate impairment only evident of a substance consumed. Employers waste their money and are left with a False Sense of Security by relying upon them.
Impairment Testing: http://www.bowles-langley.com/

rancher wrote on Feb 15, 2009 8:22 AM:

The legislature should reject this bill that discriminates against workers who happen to benefit from using marijuana under their doctor's care. If employers are concerned about workplace safety they should adopt impairment testing that will identify dangerous workers regardless of why they are impaired and dangerous.

The doctors cited in the article are too conservative in only trying medical marijuana after their patients have tried all the other options. Most of the pharmaceutical alternatives to marijuana are far more impairing and dangerous to the patients (and to fellow employees).

3000 Oregon doctors have qualified their patients for marijuana. There is no evidence of medical marijuana causing workplace accidents. Marijuana is a safe effective medicine when used appropriately. Our society can't afford the witch hunt against it any longer.

Pills wrote on Feb 14, 2009 12:10 PM:

To Jessica and others, I assume when you say marro you are referring to marinol. Marinol is synthesized THC suspended in sesame oil, there are around 66 different cannabinoids in the cannabis plant that all do there own part to alleviate pain and many other symptoms. THC is just a minor component in pain relief in the plant, and studies show that marinol has many adverse side affects in it's synthesized, pure state such as "feeling "high," drowsiness, dizziness, confusion, anxiety, changes in mood, muddled thinking, perceptual difficulties, coordination impairment, irritability, and depression" - Cited from Physician’s Desk Reference: 43rd edition. Medical Economics Company. 1989:

Now if this law passes we have to make it fair for the rest of the drugs on the market, meaning your employer should be notified and have the right to terminate you based upon if you take any anti-depressants, or are on some kind of opiate based pill, or any medication at all. Every prescription drug gets abused and being medicated on medical marijuana is no different then going to work on any medication - medical marijuana should be treated as a medicine, and not carry a stigma because it's marijuana..

motherearth wrote on Feb 14, 2009 9:40 AM:

How many people in coos county go to work ( when they can find it ) under the influence of something..
look at coos county it has PLENTY of reasons why its not the place to be. or as the locals say its the Meth captial of oregon..or when I was in HIGH School, the weed captial of oregon..
weed stays in your system for sometimes a month..where meth is a couple of days..EASY to get cleaned up for the urine tests..
But its just not coos county we all know..
but what I do on my time AFTER WORK AND NOT BEFORE WORK IS MINE AND MANY OTHERS BUSINESS..!!
I rather have a employee that smokes weed then come to work with a alcohol or a pain pill hangover..

Careprovider wrote on Feb 14, 2009 7:08 AM:

The people that I know that have the medical MJ card are reponsible users they dont just hang out and toke all day.The fact that some of them can actually perfom the tasks of labor is wonderfull.Not everyone that has a a card smokes,some choose to incorporate it into their foods, some turn it into a topical solution.and for the most they are very descrete about their use.While it is more convienent to pop a pill I beleive that these people would rather have a private place to smoke than in their cars or outside the company they work for.There are already a lot of restrictions placed on the holders already and to deny them the quality of life because society deems them dopers is absurd.

shortie wrote on Feb 13, 2009 6:28 PM:

i understand that some need the marijuana in order to ease the pain...but...if it inhibits job performance and safety there has to be some guidelines in place for protection. I dont want a bus driver or heavy equipment operator under the influence, even if it is just for pain. There has to be a middle road somewhere?

420 wrote on Feb 13, 2009 5:24 PM:

What year is it again?Why do we stil have this conversation?How many of you are in chronic pain? How many of you don't want to be addicted to DEADLY narcotics like Oxycontin or Vicodin?? Now shut up and let them live their life.

Linda wrote on Feb 13, 2009 4:36 PM:

And lots of these people are driving and selling. Heck they have more money than me and I work. Drive Harleys, build big buildings, no job, you'd think law inforcement would catch on to that. Oh I forgot, SCINT needs a payment first.

Chuck Tuna wrote on Feb 13, 2009 3:27 PM:

"Cannabis at work?" Sorry, I'm still laughing. At least we're only talking about weed and not meth here.

justaguy wrote on Feb 13, 2009 3:24 PM:

I was nearly killed on a construction site by a marijuana user. What makes a "medical" user think they have the right to endanger others while they alleviate their own pain?

Ban it wrote on Feb 13, 2009 1:36 PM:

Ban all use of any drug deemed illegal by Federal standards. These medical users are often also abusers. Put a stop to it, and incarcerate anyone using illegal drugs or narcotics. At least it will keep them from stealing to support their habit and will give them a while to get straight.

Totsoc wrote on Feb 13, 2009 1:16 PM:

I have a medical pension from a career in the military. Pain from injuries and surgeries is part of my every day life. I try to avoid any pain medication and only take them as a last resort. I prefer sobriety and exercise.
Every ones pain tolerance is different and fluctuating. Its been my experience that one size pain pill doesnt fit all.

Jethro wrote on Feb 13, 2009 1:10 PM:

I see some idiocy in this case. All over Coos Bay, and the rest of the nation, there are people going to work while under the influence of prescription pain killers, such as Norco, Oxycodone, Hydrocodone, Suboxone, etc. Most of the people taking these have been taking them for long term. Hypocrisy, as well. I've heard people who take prescription opiates criticise medical marijuana, and call those with prescription cards "dopeheads."

Jessica wrote on Feb 13, 2009 12:21 PM:

This is crazy, If she is really in this much pain, take a pill ( they have Marro) wich does the same thing as pot it just doesn't get you high. We have tone of people abuseing the medical marijuana. I am sure dont' want to do my job and have some high at work. Wish the bill would pass.

Coos Bayanian wrote on Feb 13, 2009 11:52 AM:

I would like to see how the State of Californa has dealt with this issue. They also have a medical marijuanna card in place and I am sure they employ people that are using to relieve pain.

AnneofOregon wrote on Feb 13, 2009 11:34 AM:

Requiring notification when a worker applies for a med marijuana card is against everything HIPPA stands for. What would make that different than if a worker was prescribed Vicodin, Oxycontin, Percocet? There is no more legal liability for an employer if their employee maims/injures/kills someone while under the influence of Vicodin, so why make the patient that chooses to medicate with marijuana held to a higher standard? A patient has a right to keep their medical history and prescribed medications PRIVATE.

For Real wrote on Feb 13, 2009 10:52 AM:

Give it up and legalize it. It's not hurting anyone. The continuing want to criminalize something that built the country. Why deny someone who is in need of something that only Marijuana will give them. I myself am disabled and pursuing a medical card due to the fact that have you folks done any research on Pills, they're horrible for you liver and kidneys. Now I can live my life strung out on vicodin or morphine or methadone and not to mention a birage of anti-inflammatories which daily are eating my insides up or I can roll me a joint and relax and maybe put myself at risk for cancer. I prefer to take my chances and live happily without constantly feeling like my insides are falling apart from taking so many pharmaceuticals. I guess all in all my point here is its less harmful than the millions of drug choices at my pharmacy and with all the recalls and side effects I'd rather Smoke a Dubie and say thank you mother earth for the proper herb.


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