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Response to Justin North wrote on Feb 13, 2009 3:05 PM:
Come live on Seven Devils, Humphreys, Whiskey Run or Beaver Hill Roads. Let your children catch the bus by competing with dump trucks. Worry about your water supply. Then tell me your opinion isn't wanted.
Shallow Al wrote on Feb 12, 2009 1:47 PM:
Deep Breath:
How about their water supply? Has that been addressed?
DEQ has jurisdiction over water quality only.
How about their water supply? Has that been addressed?
DEQ has jurisdiction over water quality only.
steve wrote on Feb 12, 2009 12:21 PM:
I moved from Coos Bay in the 80's. I found a good life in Wisconsin and its pretty darn nice here. I plan to move back to Coos County to retire in a few short years and i plan to spend money in the area. Please give me reasons I should move back. Im looking for a safe clean place to live out my years and begin a new life during retirement.
thanks
thanks
BANDON SPEAKS wrote on Feb 11, 2009 8:23 PM:
KEVIN IS THE MAIN BACKER OF THIS FIASCO.HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT BANDON TAX PAYERS, OR OUR CHILDREN,OR OUR HEALTH.I FOR ONE WILL GO OUT OF MY WAY SIGN THE RECALL
Deep Breath wrote on Feb 11, 2009 8:21 PM:
I think everyone needs to take a deep breath and realize that, first, The World for sure isn't the pinnacle of accurate reporting, second, that ORC has to meet very stringent requirements to obtain permits from DEQ, DSL, ACOE, DOGAMI, etc, and, third, ORC is weathering an extreme recession (how many other local businesses haven't!). Perhaps its time to welcome a business and trust in the regulators to do their jobs. As for The World? I think most people believe exactly the opposite of what they write anyway!
Thomas wrote on Feb 11, 2009 4:16 PM:
If valuable people coming to Coos county are looked upon by the empowered-by-history loud mouths to have less than a 100% equal voice in what happens here, then why should they bother?
"We become what we pretend to be"
"We become what we pretend to be"
Justin North wrote on Feb 11, 2009 12:35 PM:
"You anti-business people on this message blog make me sick to my stomach. I hope that you never EVER come near my family. ...You should be ashamed of yourselves... Go live in another country. Get Out. Your kind isn't wanted her anymore!!"
By who? You? At least we can spell.
By who? You? At least we can spell.
Ted Walker wrote on Feb 11, 2009 12:31 PM:
Well put, Joy...I sat down to write the exact same thing!
"Just who do these corporate people think they are? How dare they come into our county and threaten that if we don't give them what they want then they will go elsewhere. Well, I say they can take their bullying corporate attitudes and hit the road. Don't let the door hit ya! Shame on you 70 jobs---please don't insult us and definitely don't threaten us!!!!"
"Just who do these corporate people think they are? How dare they come into our county and threaten that if we don't give them what they want then they will go elsewhere. Well, I say they can take their bullying corporate attitudes and hit the road. Don't let the door hit ya! Shame on you 70 jobs---please don't insult us and definitely don't threaten us!!!!"
Ask Kevin wrote on Feb 11, 2009 12:06 PM:
Joy wrote on Feb 10, 2009 12:24 PM:
Just who do these corporate people think they are? How dare they come into our county and threaten that if we don't give them what they want then they will go elsewhere. Well, I say they can take their bullying corporate attitudes and hit the road. Don't let the door hit ya! Shame on you 70 jobs---please don't insult us and definitely don't threaten us!!!!
WELL JOY, YOU CAN CALL AND ASK KEVIN STUFFLEBEAN THOSE QUESTIONS, HE IS AFTERALL -----THEIR GODFATHER.
Just who do these corporate people think they are? How dare they come into our county and threaten that if we don't give them what they want then they will go elsewhere. Well, I say they can take their bullying corporate attitudes and hit the road. Don't let the door hit ya! Shame on you 70 jobs---please don't insult us and definitely don't threaten us!!!!
WELL JOY, YOU CAN CALL AND ASK KEVIN STUFFLEBEAN THOSE QUESTIONS, HE IS AFTERALL -----THEIR GODFATHER.
to Good Grief wrote on Feb 11, 2009 11:43 AM:
My home is NOT undesireable brush and weeds. My neighbors homes (200+) are NOT undesireable. My children's bus stops are NOT safe with so many trucks rumbling past, as is being proposed for the Shepard site.
Not Retired Not Californian wrote on Feb 11, 2009 11:27 AM:
I am a young professional in Bandon with a very new family. If you think that I can afford to stand by while my water may be contaminated or eliminated, you should think again. I have asked, and will continue to ask ORC to please prove that my water will not be contaminated or depleted by their operations.
Joy wrote on Feb 10, 2009 12:24 PM:
Just who do these corporate people think they are? How dare they come into our county and threaten that if we don't give them what they want then they will go elsewhere. Well, I say they can take their bullying corporate attitudes and hit the road. Don't let the door hit ya! Shame on you 70 jobs---please don't insult us and definitely don't threaten us!!!!
GET A GRIP wrote on Feb 10, 2009 11:02 AM:
If YOU RETIRED Californians who moved to the West Coast Would like to stay in the GHOST towns OF the Oregon coast OK.. Now DIG DEEPER into your Seemingly endless and bottomless pockets Cause if you dont there will be nobody not even you cause eventually all businesses wont have any reason to stay think about that
Steve wrote on Feb 10, 2009 10:51 AM:
WOW someone from CA not happy! What a shame, thanks for makin my day. Wish i could help you pack.
GET REAL PEOPLE wrote on Feb 10, 2009 10:44 AM:
Get real people, if you are not allowing this kind of "industry" in to the area then you wont allow anything.. Try this put your hand in front of your face, tell someone to hit your hand, as they swing to hit your hand move it away, "are you or are you not going to get hit in the face""??????
Get real people the more you tell companies NO that means the next company that might think about comming to Coos County or the area will think twice. They said NO to them well they will probibly say no again. GET REAL people no Industry NOOOOO JOBS NO MONEY people move out no tax YOU CAN ONLY SURVIVE SO LONG with NOTHING
Get real people the more you tell companies NO that means the next company that might think about comming to Coos County or the area will think twice. They said NO to them well they will probibly say no again. GET REAL people no Industry NOOOOO JOBS NO MONEY people move out no tax YOU CAN ONLY SURVIVE SO LONG with NOTHING
good grief wrote on Feb 9, 2009 7:36 PM:
Its just SAND people, thats all they are mining is just SAND!!! there are already existing Chromite mines on the Seven Devils Road, they have been there since WW2. I have been in them, seen them, the Chromite is just Black sand. those mines are there right now, TODAY, covered by brush and gorst, scotchbroom etc. No forests, no environmental catastrophe, no muddy run off, just clean sand. No chemicals, no cancer, no nothing, just SAND!! In todays economic situation, we can ill afford to lose any jobs in this county, especially something as clean as this is. that area can use a good land clearing project, it is virtually all undesireable brush and weeds.
TAX PAYER CITIZEN wrote on Feb 9, 2009 12:23 PM:
This is another good reason to get out there and RECALL STUFFLEBEAN.Lets all of us stand up for our rights.He hasn't made a good decision since being in office.
Local Lady wrote on Feb 9, 2009 9:19 AM:
There are two definite sides to this issue and both carry frightening consequences. Say we allow this company in to survey for mining. Once mining begins, they will be tearing up our valuable forests, tearing up our already hurting roads, and leeching harmful chemicals into the water that goes into our wells. Not to mention they seem to be expecting US to pay for their way in. I'm afraid they will only bring in outside labor and that doesn't help us one bit in our current position. We would only continue to lose money. We need a better strategy
And on the other hand, what if they did pay for the repairs necessary to make their job doable? What if they compensated us with a plan to replant and renew what they will ultimately destroy? What if they worked with us to create the smallest "footprint" possible? And maybe, just maybe, what if they actually hired locally??? The only bad thing I see with this is that they certainly aren't going to be that accomodating. So unfortunately it's just not going to happen for us. Time for new options!
And on the other hand, what if they did pay for the repairs necessary to make their job doable? What if they compensated us with a plan to replant and renew what they will ultimately destroy? What if they worked with us to create the smallest "footprint" possible? And maybe, just maybe, what if they actually hired locally??? The only bad thing I see with this is that they certainly aren't going to be that accomodating. So unfortunately it's just not going to happen for us. Time for new options!
Californian wrote on Feb 9, 2009 4:50 AM:
I'm not impressed with "Not Impressed" and others who would blindly support his position. These are matters that derserve investigation and deliberation, for the consequences of mismanagement concerning extraction of natural resources will last a very long time. Just travel thought Eastern Europe sometime and take a look for yourselves. The mess from poor mining practices is still there. Seem once the ore was extracted, the mine shut down and the surrounding communities died a slow death. I'm not against mining, per se... I just want to see that it's done in a responsible way. If the profits cannot cover the clean-up costs, then don't do it for the short-term gain. The message is, take your time and make sure the process is viable for everyone.... including your children's children. Why would anyone want to pee in their own pool?
steve wrote on Feb 8, 2009 8:20 PM:
I just read some more of the posts here and you mention GOLD. The mine site i mentioned before contains a large amount of copper and gold. Hunters, indians, tree huggers, urban/rural people from all over Wisconsin came together to stop this mine. Rio Algom is a multi national who LIES and takes advantage of Native people and tries to divide all of us so they can rape our land. They were shocked when so many people came together. We love the Wolf River, its so clean and wild. There are wolves, eagles, osprey, bear, bobcat, mountain lions, occasional moose and elk. Its starts in the Nicolet national forest and is the heart of the menomonee reservation. We are relieved the tribes now own the land. They have tougher pollution laws than the Dept of Natural resoures which worked against the people and wanted to approve the project. Crooks even at the state level and they are supposed to be "protecting" the environment. Look up "Crandon Mine".
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Concerned. wrote on Feb 8, 2009 2:56 PM:
Those who don't want this mining company to come are asking for the North Bend/Coos Bay area to disappear. Without NEW jobs, people will leave. With those people gone, current jobs will disappear with them because there will be less and less people to support the local community. All I've seen from this area is recession. Sure it may "only" be 70 jobs, but at least it's a start. Get something, anything, done to turn these cities around.
E wrote on Feb 8, 2009 1:46 PM:
So, we're supposed to just go "Hey yeah come on in and give us cancer!!" because we are in a recession and can't find other jobs? And are they really going to give any Coos County people jobs? Or are they just going to do what LNG will do and bring in THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES who don't need to be trained? Think about it.. This is why capitalism is failing the rape and pillage of our resources all for a quick buck and in the end all we'll be left with is a desolate toxic wasteland..
2 not impressed wrote on Feb 8, 2009 1:42 PM:
We're not anti -business we're anti cancer/pollution of our environment.. Sorry that we like clean air and clean streams.. Guess you must not have children? See I've got a 6 year old son that I'd like to see live to a ripe old age.. Not dead from all the garbage that big companies like this pump out into our environment.. You do realize we're not made for this right? Do you think 200 years ago humans had this level of toxicity in their environment?
Just The Facts wrote on Feb 8, 2009 1:28 PM:
Mr. Roaring Crab,
If you had come to any of the previous meetings regarding the conditional use permit for ORC mining activities you would know that all of your questions have been asked and answered. Stop your complaining and find out for yourself - get off your duff, get involved, and go to a meeting!
If you had come to any of the previous meetings regarding the conditional use permit for ORC mining activities you would know that all of your questions have been asked and answered. Stop your complaining and find out for yourself - get off your duff, get involved, and go to a meeting!
ROARING CRAB wrote on Feb 8, 2009 12:52 PM:
Some important questions need to be asked and answered.
Oregon Resources Corp. will be running a 24 hour a day processing plant.
What is the methods and chemicals used?
ORC stated they would need to go no deeper than 60 feet for mining.
County commission members debated whether to limit depth to 60 feet but decided not to do so. Why?
How will rainwater runoff be contained?
67 thousand truck loads a year.
What about dust? Will loads be covered or enclosed?
Where is the environmental health and safety report and what does it say?
Is that Feb. 24th 10:00 AM meeting with ORC open and where is it?
Google Oregon Resources Corp.
Oregon Resources Corp. will be running a 24 hour a day processing plant.
What is the methods and chemicals used?
ORC stated they would need to go no deeper than 60 feet for mining.
County commission members debated whether to limit depth to 60 feet but decided not to do so. Why?
How will rainwater runoff be contained?
67 thousand truck loads a year.
What about dust? Will loads be covered or enclosed?
Where is the environmental health and safety report and what does it say?
Is that Feb. 24th 10:00 AM meeting with ORC open and where is it?
Google Oregon Resources Corp.
Not-Impressed wrote on Feb 8, 2009 11:48 AM:
You anti-business people on this message blog make me sick to my stomach. I hope that you never EVER come near my family. You threaten working peoples' ways of life. How sad are you to bash business in a recession. People are hurting for work and money to pay for basic services. You should be ashamed of yourselves... Go live in another country. Get Out. Your kind isn't wanted her anymore!!
steve wrote on Feb 8, 2009 7:45 AM:
How important is clean drinking water from your well? How important is a toxic free environement? I live in Wisconsin and we have some of the toughest mining laws in the nation. Rio Algom of australia/south africa wanted to open a mine in a pristine water rich area of northern wisconsin. They "promised" there would be no side effects even though they would use arsenic to obtain the copper and gold out of the ore. the tailings pile would have been 100 football fields in size and basicly covered with a tarp. They said it would never leak even there are numerous pristine lakes, wetlands, and rivers in the IMMEDIATE area. Thankfully the mine was defeated. The Native Tribes bought them out with casino dollars. All walks of life sent Rio away. We saw that our clean water was more imporant than temporary jobs and a mess to clean up. The toxic runoff would last forever and drain into our beautiful Wolf River which drains all the way to Lake Winnebago. It supports one of the largest Sturgeion populations in the world. Think about it.....
I 3 trees wrote on Feb 8, 2009 12:51 AM:
How many more years do you think this great Earth of ares is going to be able to take before it's too toxic to even the cockroaches? You wonder why the cancer rates are so high everywhere. Maybe it's because we aren't meant to be around the toxins that our cars spew, the pesticides and herbicides sprayed in our forests/food that in turn run into our rivers and cause MASSIVE dead zones our oceans.I pity any Human that isn't an evironmentalist.Have fun with the cancer clusters.
taxpayer wrote on Feb 7, 2009 12:11 PM:
We need to tell the tax dept. that we
are tired of paying higher property taxes so they can give tax relief or no
taxes at all to new companies coming in
here.
We need the taxes from any company
or business that wants to do business
here.
And if they tear up our roads, THEY fix them at their expense. Why should
we pay to fix them ?
You read about all the companies that
get tax breaks, especially in Eugene and Portland, that when the tax exempt
years are over so is the company. They close up. Open your eyes commissioners.
are tired of paying higher property taxes so they can give tax relief or no
taxes at all to new companies coming in
here.
We need the taxes from any company
or business that wants to do business
here.
And if they tear up our roads, THEY fix them at their expense. Why should
we pay to fix them ?
You read about all the companies that
get tax breaks, especially in Eugene and Portland, that when the tax exempt
years are over so is the company. They close up. Open your eyes commissioners.
Why Why Why wrote on Feb 7, 2009 12:04 PM:
Why is the only companies that want to come here are dangerous, dirty, smelly, etc. etc. Can't we get any
decent clean, safe jobs or companies coming here. Are we so down and out that every company that nobody else wants, seem to be welcomed here by our
wonderful officials running this county.
I wonder if any of the officials that
welcome these companies, live by or near
or would work for them, in any position
other than in the private offices ???
Also it seems like no matter how bad or
rich the companies are, our officials
want to give them TAX BREAKS !!!!! Why?
decent clean, safe jobs or companies coming here. Are we so down and out that every company that nobody else wants, seem to be welcomed here by our
wonderful officials running this county.
I wonder if any of the officials that
welcome these companies, live by or near
or would work for them, in any position
other than in the private offices ???
Also it seems like no matter how bad or
rich the companies are, our officials
want to give them TAX BREAKS !!!!! Why?
Toothless Cajun wrote on Feb 7, 2009 11:06 AM:
Continued...And you wonder why someone is trying to lockup the natural resources? Using strong arm techniques? It is desperation! Time is running out & you will be the last to know. You think I don't know what I'm talking about? How about "Sub Prime Is Contained"? Try this on for size. We are only 1/3 of the way through this. If you choose to sit back & be fat, dumb & happy, then you get what you deserve & the unscrupulous politicians deserve to have the rights to your first born as well. Create accountability of the ones who make the decisions. Stop standing by doing nothing. make yourself heard. Start speaking out in the public meetings. Put them on the spot with direct questions. Do not accept side stepping of the issues. We are being taken advantage of and it is time to stop them or you can say good bye to the American way of life.
Toothless Cajun wrote on Feb 7, 2009 10:59 AM:
Concerned resident...It doesn't add up? You are right, as I stated, they are after something else. They are looking for gold. Why worry about any of this. None of it matters. We are a corrupt society that is no better than the impoverished third world countries in this world. We as a nation are headed to join them. The behind the scenes back door deals are only going to increase and become more blatant. That is what you people should be concerned about. Who cares about your "environmental save our trees keep our land clean agenda"! You all are being snowballed with these trivial acts of diversion, meanwhile your elected officials raid the coffers and fill their pockets as well as the bank accounts of their constituents. You people are a joke, you may as well be door mats. If you do not create accountability of our elected officials, starting at the top, extending to the house and senate and eventually to our local elected officials, you may as well forget about your "Utopian" style dreams. If you think this economy is bad just wait...You Aint Seen Nothin Yet!
To the Good Ole Boys Club wrote on Feb 7, 2009 7:29 AM:
It is a sad day indeed when the 'Good Ole' Boys Club' make the decisions for us. My husband and I are scraping the barrel the make our basic monthly bills. We had talked about moving to another area, but we cannot afford the moving expenses. And it sad when there are families worse off than us. Coos County: Put aside politics and think about those citizens you represent. (Like that will ever happen!)
HUH wrote on Feb 7, 2009 6:14 AM:
Why doesn't OREGON mine the Chromite themselves. Instead of 3 perceent and 40 jobs, they could take control of the whole thing. HAHAHA
Get real wrote on Feb 7, 2009 5:51 AM:
Stufflebean fired the 22 people that would be doing the repair work to W. Beaver Hill Rd. in order to come up with the $450,000 the county needs for this for ORC's mining project. That is 22 less jobs. Now ORC wants to mine an additional 6,000+ acres. How many more roads will that tear up, how many more people will loose their jobs in order for the county to come up with the $$ to pay for maintnenance to those roads? Devalue property = property taxes go down = less in property taxes to the county. Ya this just what this area needs.
Al the Pal wrote on Feb 6, 2009 5:39 PM:
Chromite facts:
If Chromite is in some (not every) wells, it is because it was DRILLED into. Chromite in the sands on the beaches?
Hmmm.
Why is Chromium listed as a HEAVY Metal?If you, and you alone, find it on the surface, why would Oregon Resources propose to mine for it?
Why not just pick it up off the surface? The mining operation proposed has had to go through a DOGAMI permit process, which covers MINING, meaning, digging into the strata where chromite has been deposited.
Maybe you should Google: Comprehension.
If Chromite is in some (not every) wells, it is because it was DRILLED into. Chromite in the sands on the beaches?
Hmmm.
Why is Chromium listed as a HEAVY Metal?If you, and you alone, find it on the surface, why would Oregon Resources propose to mine for it?
Why not just pick it up off the surface? The mining operation proposed has had to go through a DOGAMI permit process, which covers MINING, meaning, digging into the strata where chromite has been deposited.
Maybe you should Google: Comprehension.
CalifviaOre wrote on Feb 6, 2009 1:01 PM:
How many of the complainers have stainless steel front appliances! Chromite did that!
Coos Bayanian wrote on Feb 6, 2009 10:34 AM:
I am sad. I am sad because it seems those that scream the loudest seem to get their way. I grew up here in Coos Bay. My dad was a millwright for Weyerhauser. I have seen our community's economy shrink and shrink. My husband works for a local company that once had three stores. They now have one. I work a minimum paying job even though I have plenty of experience and should be paid more. We are barely surviving right now in this area. Everyone is saying let things stay them same and we are losing everyone to bigger cities. I would like to own a home but I doubt that will ever happen here. If we don't get jobs, no one will buy homes here. And then where will we be?
moonpenny wrote on Feb 6, 2009 10:33 AM:
My concerns are major erosion. We already have the rain to help that along, all we need now is something to disturb the dirt. Nuh uh, I want new jobs coming here, but not at the chance of erosion.
Chromite Facts wrote on Feb 6, 2009 10:11 AM:
To all of those that say we are going to get cancer...perhaps you should take a stroll to the beach. See that black sand? Guess what...CHROMITE. Take a look at EVERY water well from here to Port Orford. Guess what...CHROMITE. Guess what they grow the cranberries in....old beach sand containing CHROMITE. Get real and stop relying on Wikipedia to become an "expert".
Retired Californian wrote on Feb 6, 2009 10:05 AM:
Wow. I thought I was liked here. The real estate agents sure liked my money, and the local businesses seem to like it, too. Also, the county tax assessor. All I wanted was a clean and quiet place to live, like you lucky Oregonians. Which one of you will buy my land when the mining trucks go rolling by? I thought so.
Concerned resident wrote on Feb 6, 2009 7:48 AM:
This article states: "The price of chromite has risen from $280 per ton a year and a half ago to $600 a ton. Smith said that’s because the only other chromite sources in Africa are drying up." However, in the 1/22/09 article, "Economy puts crunch on chromite mining funding" Niemcor Africa Pty retracted its $48.5 million funding package to Industrial Minerals Corporation (ORC's parent company) citing one of the reasons as "significant falls in the price of chrome." This contradicts CEO Dan Smith's unsubstantiated claim of chromite rising to $600/ton. If that truly were the case, wouldn't that African company jump aboard the gravy train? Please think about what ORC is telling the good citizens of Coos County and how it just doesn't add up.
ROARING CRAB wrote on Feb 5, 2009 5:49 PM:
Please please just google CHROMITE MINING POLLUTION and have a nice read. You won't be hugging trees but cancer patients, what a high price to pay for a couple of jobs.
Onceler wrote on Feb 5, 2009 5:45 PM:
"Mining group threatens pullout"
I know you won't run this comment, but your headline really does say it all about what is being done to us.
We should just lay back and enjoy it, right non-Californians?
I know you won't run this comment, but your headline really does say it all about what is being done to us.
We should just lay back and enjoy it, right non-Californians?
Fact Check wrote on Feb 5, 2009 4:21 PM:
Every anti-mining, anti-industry post on this page has ZERO facts and 100% fluff. I'd recommend you to go speak to a represenative of the company, but you wouldn't understand (OR WON'T!). God forbid you learn something and realize that industry, jobs, and progress can co-exist with your "precious" environment. By the way, stop running around in the forests naked and hugging trees...they don't appreciate the view!!!
In need of a vision for the future wrote on Feb 5, 2009 3:20 PM:
If the Coos County residents are truly interested in generating jobs for their commmunity, I would suggest simply looking at other communities in Oregon that have grown in the past ten to twenty years and see how they did it. What you'll see is there was a plan put in place to allow for the growth. Agricultural land and forest land was re-zoned for environmentally conscious residential development(not mining) that encouraged people to buy homes there (and, yes, many of them were from California). You have a beautiful coastline to take advantage of. Build well-planned communities with parks, schools, etc. DO NOT destroy thousands of acres of OCEAN VIEW land and destroy your highways for 40 jobs that will only last till the chromite is gone (2 years).
Other Issues wrote on Feb 5, 2009 2:27 PM:
The article states,"And there are other issues Oregon Resources is up against." There certainly are. Take for instance, the noise issue near the mining sites and along the haul route. Two state laws exist that limit the days/hours that a new industrial source can operate if the generated noise levels exceed 10dBA above the ambient noise range in a given hour and there are noise sensitive areas (residences) within 1/2 mile to the operations, including the transportation route. Look up OAR 340-035-0035 and ORS 467.120. Members of our community have repeatedly pointed out these laws to ORC, but have received no substantive reply as to how ORC will comply with them. Coos County citizens deserve to know more about ORC, not just rely upon infomercials and promises. Just because a company does great P.R. doesn't mean it will be responsible with its performance, including complying with all applicable laws. Oh, and I am not hippy, meth addict/dealer, or CA retiree. I happen to be a proud 1976 graduate of Rainer H.S. in OREGON, as well as a responsible homeowner and taxpayer. Sorry to disappoint some of you.
Barbara wrote on Feb 5, 2009 12:34 PM:
Can't say that this surprises me. What happened to ORC's agreement with the county not to use 7 Devils road except the north end of it. In the Pacific Rivera area, which is where I live there are more than 80 homes. I drive Whiskey Run Rd. every day to and from work. Just a few of the roads that are accssable from Whiskey Run are Jackie, Drew, Ken and Clifford. There are school buses, pedestrians, bicylist (this part of the Oregon Coast bicycle path)horseback riders. Whiskey Run Beach is within walking distance of my home. It is also a popular place among locals as well as tourists. It won't be if this happens. I can forget about selling my property to get away from this as the only party that would be interested in it will be ORC and they don't want to buy, they want to lease destroy the ground and then give it back to you. Is ORC going to pay the homeowners here for devaluating the property, destroying Whiskey Run Rd. and beach? The Beach is accessable to the Public from Whiskey Run Rd. how accessable will it be if this happens.
CalifviaOre wrote on Feb 5, 2009 11:59 AM:
You guys gripe up there as much as Humboldt Co. folks gripe about the southern Calif Folks who want to keep Humboldt a back woods slum. We don't even have a doctor who can cast and set a broken arm in less than a week, let alone reliable(dead) railroads. The Chrome mines in Coos County have been there for a hundred years. So have the coal mines. Reclamation is a wonderful thing, too. What you folks gotta do is get off your collective duffs and do more than golf, cause from down herem it looks like that's all you do.
High Minded wrote on Feb 5, 2009 10:41 AM:
It's sad to see that many of you, along with the County Commissioners, are so desperate for any economic growth in Coos County that the only option in your minds is to allow a big company to come in, destroy the land, destroy roads (which the county will then have to pay for), and as a result make living in our county less attractive. We need growth, but this mining operation will not create local jobs. It will only cause harm, and it's sad that we're willing to bend over backwards to the whims and threats of outside corporation who only see dollar signs.
George wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:22 AM:
Hurry up that Stufflebean recall and add Whitty to it before they can sell our future down the drain with another really bad contract like the coal bed methane one.
Let's hope Main has some sense about this, but he can be out voted.
Let's hope Main has some sense about this, but he can be out voted.
Not a retired cfalifornia leech wrote on Feb 5, 2009 8:27 AM:
I am a retired Oregonian by birth. Until such time that this community finds a true leader and the politicians are not afraid to ask the people what they want here; and as long as the people with cosntipated brains keep posting to this site about unwelcome ousiders from California and elsewhere; those retired leeches in this posting; forget any new industry that would be welcome by all.
Just a thought wrote on Feb 5, 2009 6:47 AM:
Reclamation mining;refilling the pits with the same material they mined without the chromium,garnets and zircons.24hr operation,7days a week.That is definatly going to create some problems but I think they should get it worked out. Weyehauser used to pay for the roads so why cant the mining group.9000 acres sounds like alot but how much of that is usable timber?Get the true facts out to the public.
Interesting wrote on Feb 4, 2009 9:50 PM:
Seems as though someone set it up to lose 22 road worker jobs, just when they would be needed the most, and with the mine operation to fund them. Then appearing from thin air is the $450,000 for asphalt overlay, a saving from firing 22 COUNTY, road employees. Oh, Stufflebean; factored that in in the road department reorganization. Where was South Coast Development Council, the champion of jobs, when our own Coos County lost them, Same place when the airport Horizon jobs were lost, batting for out of County corporations to come in here and bring jobs and personnel. Wise up folks, who is SCDC batting for.
McGillicuddy wrote on Feb 4, 2009 9:16 PM:
Some facts about this meeting that Jo Rafferty missed or misunderstood: ORC didn't threaten to pull their business out of Coos County. What they said was if they couldn't renew leases with Coos County they would seek additional leases in Curry Couny to meet their businss plan. To Think: Yes, ORC has reached a tentative settlement with the County to repair ailing roads. They estimate two trucks an hour on our roads. You have many times more than that in logs trucks for the past 50 years or more and you have received nothing in reimbursement from Truckers. This is a much better deal than you've ever received in your lifetime. ORC wants to lease 6k+ acres on which to conduct exploration. Once exploration identifies key areas, mining would take place on perhaps 5% of that land.
Naysayers Be Quiet wrote on Feb 4, 2009 8:43 PM:
There is a small group of retired hippies who love to say "NO" to everything new that happens in our county? They don't care if we have adults with working wage jobs & benefits b/c they are retired. They don't think that new company growth in our community is great for the economy, other businesses, & our schools... Why do they care, they don't have kids who attend Coos County Schools! I am so tired of these folks.
I am very interested in new businesses coming into our community. I think we should support it, not be nasty to the businesses taking an interest in our County. From reading this article you are led to believe the "evil outsiders" from Portland are coming to rape our lands, but I don't think that is the case.
PS - Ms. Rafferty I have noticed a negative slant on this article, not very professional, aren't you supposed to be unbiased?
I am very interested in new businesses coming into our community. I think we should support it, not be nasty to the businesses taking an interest in our County. From reading this article you are led to believe the "evil outsiders" from Portland are coming to rape our lands, but I don't think that is the case.
PS - Ms. Rafferty I have noticed a negative slant on this article, not very professional, aren't you supposed to be unbiased?
ChuckO wrote on Feb 4, 2009 8:13 PM:
WOW! Along comes Opitz with another pie in the sky promise. And Kevin strikes again. $450,000 gift to a company that could make a billion? How many road workers could that cover? What happened to the $9 million that the county got from Mastec? Will the deep pockets people of Bandon welcome a truck through their town every few minutes en route to the Coos Bay chromium factory? Don't bet on it.
Not a CAVE wrote on Feb 4, 2009 7:48 PM:
Why dont we just kick out all the retired California leeches instead .
Ron wrote on Feb 4, 2009 7:20 PM:
It involves a whole lot more than 9,000 acres of land, perhaps five times that.
Its a little too early for Oregon Resources to begin threatening us.
The 100 plus trucks each day running 24 hours a day over the 19 mile run from the mining area to South Coos Bay will also increase.
We here are not situated where your average corporation wants to do business. We are remote, without rail or truckable roadways. We are so desperate that we court whatever bottom-feeder companies surface to just get some growth going. Courting these businesses is like sleeping with the devil's bishops who really cannot deal with more built up areas which are better represented legally.
Lastly, no growth is better than bad growth that will not create jobs for locals, but who will bring in their own people to do the family wage jobs.
Ship breaking, LNG for California, Chromite mining, come on. These are things that have been unable to site elsewhere and are trying to succeed here by bullying their way through the local POL's and Oregon's permitting process. Heaven help us.
Its a little too early for Oregon Resources to begin threatening us.
The 100 plus trucks each day running 24 hours a day over the 19 mile run from the mining area to South Coos Bay will also increase.
We here are not situated where your average corporation wants to do business. We are remote, without rail or truckable roadways. We are so desperate that we court whatever bottom-feeder companies surface to just get some growth going. Courting these businesses is like sleeping with the devil's bishops who really cannot deal with more built up areas which are better represented legally.
Lastly, no growth is better than bad growth that will not create jobs for locals, but who will bring in their own people to do the family wage jobs.
Ship breaking, LNG for California, Chromite mining, come on. These are things that have been unable to site elsewhere and are trying to succeed here by bullying their way through the local POL's and Oregon's permitting process. Heaven help us.
LOGIC wrote on Feb 4, 2009 7:05 PM:
Use Logic. It seems Stufflebean has fired a mass amount of people just so he has a Half Million dollars to Asphalt a Road. I see how Kevin and Nikki both work now. Read the Coquille Sentinel for Feb 4th. You will be surprised.
Thomas wrote on Feb 4, 2009 6:14 PM:
They are bluffing to build up the apparent value of the corporation for investors or sale.
Regardless, no good will ever come to Coos from this scam ......... so just say no, and let them go.
Regardless, no good will ever come to Coos from this scam ......... so just say no, and let them go.
Pro industry wrote on Feb 4, 2009 6:13 PM:
I'm very pro industry, but the more I read about this company, the more I dislike them. If Chromite is in such demand, they should be kissing our "tails" and be more than willing to do their share when it comes to mining our area. The way I see it, our elected officials should be looking up another mining company and see what they have to offer. I'd show Daniel Smith and his company the door and send them on their way. Please Coos County, don't cave to them!!! Give another mining company a shot.
resident wrote on Feb 4, 2009 5:50 PM:
Man, people gripe about no growth, no economy, and unemployment. But every company that wants to try and come here is run out of town...
In the 30 years I have lived here, there is 1 constant. Things never change
In the 30 years I have lived here, there is 1 constant. Things never change
OMGosh.... wrote on Feb 4, 2009 4:44 PM:
Please......the bay area needs to get a grip and realize that if you keep sending everyone away.....they might just stop coming all together! Coos County needs industry! Plain and simple! The mines need to stay and the Commissioners need to make it happen! If for no other reason then to show they are will to bring and keep industries in the county! Maybe just maybe, another one might come with a bigger and better resource for the area! If you keep sending them away...then you pretty much just chewed off your own hand! Idiots!
Richard wrote on Feb 4, 2009 4:43 PM:
WAKE UP COOS COUNTY??? The comodity you have that the rest of the country wants is livability. This is a beautiful clean place to live and/or retire. If you want sustainable jobs in Coos County restore the fisheries. Tell the LNG rascals to leave town along with the miners, brain dead county commissioners and above all the crooked Port commission.
George B. wrote on Feb 4, 2009 4:42 PM:
We don't want jobs here. Coos County is about welfare and meth.
Move on wrote on Feb 4, 2009 3:34 PM:
Sounds like that Mining Group needs to just move on down the road!
Gene wrote on Feb 4, 2009 1:09 PM:
Hey Trucker, right on! Let them take the jobs somewhere else, no one here needs one. Our politicians work for us. Another thing, tell the company you drive for that you don't feel like doing that and just want your check delivered like our Commissioners, Bankers and Wall Street crooks. This area gets worse and worse. Nothing left but crooks, drug addicts, unemployed and few hard working people trying to hang on to what they have left.
think wrote on Feb 4, 2009 1:00 PM:
70 jobs?? Thats it. The county gets stuck having to shell out $ for the roads? who get stuck with that bill? Us... Its not worth it. You know the jobs would go to people they company brings in anyhow they already have mentioned that in early statements. I am all for pro growth for this area that brings meaningful real jobs to people. But this is just another opportunistic scam. At the cost of our only real assets.Why give it way??
Linda wrote on Feb 4, 2009 12:27 PM:
To THINK WITH YOUR HEAD: for your info this area is already destroyed. Must be retired or a tree hugger.
TRUCKER wrote on Feb 4, 2009 11:45 AM:
Now why in the world would we want to bring jobs and $$$ to our area? Some of those evil "outsiders" might move here and try to spend money and participate in our comunity!
My money is on our local politicians to put the kybosh on this plan and stop these intruders from setteling in here.
Our guys and gals in office will delay, confuse, confound, and frustrate Oregon Resources Corp. until they cry "uncle" and just move on down the road to an area that wants to do business.
My money is on our local politicians to put the kybosh on this plan and stop these intruders from setteling in here.
Our guys and gals in office will delay, confuse, confound, and frustrate Oregon Resources Corp. until they cry "uncle" and just move on down the road to an area that wants to do business.
SEE YA wrote on Feb 4, 2009 11:36 AM:
Let the whiners leave,and good ridance to them.The county and tax payers will be way ahead money wise.This is a company that wants everything for nothing.Take the LNG bozo's with you.
Linda wrote on Feb 4, 2009 11:16 AM:
We might as well kiss that one good bye too. It might kill a frog so tree huggers going to step in.
think with your head wrote on Feb 4, 2009 10:41 AM:
is it worth destroying almost 9000 acres of timber land, to get a small kick back to the county and yield 70 jobs that most likely will be given to out of the area workers?? and our roads will torn up and a nightmare to drive on with the traffic of the big dirt trucks? Tell these greedy foreign natural resource poucher's, to go and pillage and destroy curry county.There isnt enough incentive for the county to destroy that much land and people property values, and roads. This will destroy this area if this is allowed..
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