Damon Noel, plead guilty
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Cheesecake is Delicious wrote on Jan 22, 2009 4:40 PM:
Ignorance is Bliss. Oregon = Ignorant
There will be Peace in the Valley for me.
There will be Peace in the Valley for me.
Sorry wrote on Jan 22, 2009 2:31 PM:
Consentual or not. You ARE incorrect. It is NOT illegal in every state (far from it) for minors to have sexual relations with adults. Oregon has a +3 year law (ORS 163.345) concerning it's age of consent (18) law. This doesn't make make it legal for a 19 year old to have relations with a 16 year old. It's considered a defense though, thus greatly reducing sentences that are given. So if a victim is only considered a "victim" by the state, said 19 year old would come away with a slap on the wrist. Cases like that would likely be dropped (unless responsible parents step in to push for prosecution) to save tax payer dollars because of the two parties wanting to egage in those activities. Still, perp would likely only see up to 1 year maxium sentence.
Mixing Paint wrote on Jan 22, 2009 1:49 PM:
Seems there is a lot of confusion concerning the difference between what a minor is (person not yet of legal age to enter a binding contract) versus what the age of consent is. In Mr. Noel's case this is moot due to no state in our union currently having a consent law below 16 (in relation to adults). For the moral soap box people, it should be known that no less than 32 states have the consent law set at 16(some with age range limitations). For the "Many of our moral standards are derived from beliefs of the church", I present this. The Vatican City currently has the lowest age of consent in Europe (set at 12). Pretty creepy for the second largest Christian denomination is the US. It should also be known that 14 was the age of consent for many US states until very late in the the 20th century. Oregon's voting majority got the age of consent correct unlike the majority of the US.
CONSENTUAL OR NOT wrote on Jan 22, 2009 12:44 PM:
Although we ALL know that it is IS a fact that persons under 18 are MINORS, and those that have reached that age are ADULTS, the Missisippi statute does say that it COULD be consentual. BUT it also states that 16 year olds are still MINORS. It is ILLEGAL to have sexual relations with a MINOR by an ADULT in every state. If this was a censentual act, as thought by authors of various comments, why would the victim come forward? If they were in such "love" together why would the victim lie? People in love, in my experience, don't hide thier "relationship" and have others on the side.
Wavemaker wrote on Jan 21, 2009 11:55 PM:
Sinppy, you're absolutely correct. We as a naiton not only do not have sex with minors but also do not tolerate those who wish to do so. Many of our moral standards are derived from beleifs of the church therefore I find it absurd that anyone would think that to have sex with a minor would be okay, anywhere. I also beieve that it is highly possible that he does not have "other victims" but rather this was a chance thing. He too is young but is still over 18, he knew better yet I am certain he hoped no one would find out. I also doubt that they are "in love," If they were, we would know nothing of the encounter(s).
sorry facts snippy wrote on Jan 21, 2009 3:04 PM:
I just read ยง 97-3-95 of the Mississippi statutes and to "avoid any confusion" the age of consent is 16. There is no nation wide age of consent is 18. There are majority fall between 16-17. Facts has no mastery of google afterall and snippy is well, I'm not sure what they're trying to say "for the Nation". Thankfully we do live in a state where the age of consent is 18. Thank you Snippy and Facts for trying to blow smoke.
Snippy wrote on Jan 21, 2009 1:32 PM:
Sounds like someone doesn't like it when thier flaws in reasoning, defenses, and logic are pointed out. I agree with FACTS writings, and have read the documents myself. I also agree with the author of To Everyone. This comment made sense. We, as a NATION, do not have sex with MINORS (no matter what state you're in or from). I would also like to point out that I know both the victim and Damon. I have been told by Damon himself that he did not do this, and proclaimed his innocents. I pray for him and everyone involved. Especially Damon and the victim.
Finnally wrote on Jan 18, 2009 2:46 PM:
I am sooo happy he is convicted. I am good friends with the girl he did this to. I am disgusted by him!!! Happy the truth has finally came through! I am so sorry for all you have gone through because of this horrible man. He is an ADULT!!! He should know better.
To Everyone wrote on Jan 17, 2009 7:04 AM:
I am sorry but to me not having sex with a minor is common sense. He is a preditor, he went to that church looking for a victim. He knew what he was doing was wrong. He thought that if he had "consesual sex" he could later use it as a defense which alot of preditors due. Blame the victim.
fyi, I do not know the guy but I know preditors and phycology
I bet he has victims in Mississippi
fyi, I do not know the guy but I know preditors and phycology
I bet he has victims in Mississippi
To Broken wrote on Jan 16, 2009 1:07 PM:
You would be amazed at how many people truly knew that, and are not fooled.
Broken wrote on Jan 16, 2009 12:50 PM:
Yes, he did. Damon has broken a number of things. And consentual is not part of the facts, it is part of the defense.
to healing and facts wrote on Jan 16, 2009 11:09 AM:
I really don't know how I could more clearly put it? The point of my comment is spelled out. Healing is quoted saying, "even when the perp said (apparently making healing "in-the-know"?) he didn't do it". This was incorrect. Pretty simple, you following me? Facts, your mastery of google IS truly impressive. Sorry for any confusion that was caused, but I clearly stated that ignorance is not a defense. In your perfect world, everyone MUST have memorized the statutes of every state they've been in. People reading between the lines causes confusion. By all means, please stop confusing yourself. Damon broke the law and will be punished.
Facts wrote on Jan 15, 2009 8:43 PM:
According to Mississippi Department of Public Safety, Sex with a minor, anyone under the age of 18 (as defined by the Mississippi Age of Majority Law), is prohibited by law. The same guidelines as Oregon and multiple other states. There should be no confusion on Mr. Noel's behalf. Perhaps he should leave the country and go where this behavior would be tolerated. It defenetly is not here in Oregon or Mississippi!
Reguarding the author of To Healing wrote on Jan 15, 2009 8:29 PM:
The author of this comment is obviously "in-the-know" of Mr. Noel's thoughts and actions. Otherwise I hope they are not speaking for him. It seems to me that sex with a MINOR is illegal in all states. Each state defining minor as anyone under the age of 18. By this, dear author, I am confused as to the point of your comment. Are you stating that the artical was wrong and that Damon lived out of country? Did he plead Not Guilty at one point?
scared wrote on Jan 15, 2009 6:14 PM:
What scares me is the paper said this guy is living in NB. How many other victims has he been "building for quite some time"? Does he have to register as a se offender? How soon? How do we know if our young daughters are safe? Does he still go to this church, or is he maybe going to show up at mine?
to Healing wrote on Jan 15, 2009 12:52 PM:
The "perp" never stated he didn't do it. He just didn't think he was guilty for a consensual act. After being educated by the court that acts with a person under the age of 18 is illegal in Oregon, he changed his plea to guilty. Laws vary state to state & country to country. Ignorance is not a defense. I personally agree with our laws concerning minors. Americans are always appalled to discover the way people do things (their laws) in other places are different when it causes them to go to jail. Watch out if you leave the country, don't be ignorant.
To Chris wrote on Jan 15, 2009 11:34 AM:
How true! It seems rather simple doesn't it? Trust=responsibility.
Concerned and Confused wrote on Jan 15, 2009 9:01 AM:
The artical states that Mr. Noel is from Mississippi. Is there different boundaries surrounding sexual relations with a minor in that state?
Agreement wrote on Jan 15, 2009 8:58 AM:
I noticed that EVERYONE on this thread has one thing in common, we ALL agree that we are glad that this MAN has faced his legal battle with honesty and cooperation. By stating he is guilty of the charges and taking ownership of his wrongdoing. I hope that we can applaud him on owning his actions and the honesty he portrayed in doing so. I think we should also give the victim credit as well. It must have taken a lot of courage to come forward to stand up and create a voice for herself.
NON-WORD wrote on Jan 15, 2009 8:46 AM:
NANAREV-
I am glad you pointed out that the "WORD" sees this injustice as wrong. As a person of faith, I see that the "WORD" has taught you to believe the wrongdoing in Mr. Noel's actions. I can only hope that the bible teaches more lessons on such injustices. Thank you for bringing that point forward.
I am glad you pointed out that the "WORD" sees this injustice as wrong. As a person of faith, I see that the "WORD" has taught you to believe the wrongdoing in Mr. Noel's actions. I can only hope that the bible teaches more lessons on such injustices. Thank you for bringing that point forward.
Chris wrote on Jan 15, 2009 8:41 AM:
Two words--Youth Pastor. This guy was trusted with children and exploited it. sorry girl, you're really nice and I like you but you are too young and I would be violating the trust of your parents, the church and most importantly, you.
Pastor wrote on Jan 15, 2009 8:38 AM:
Pastor Rich posted so much on the other blogs trying to protect himself and his church. I hope that he is going through some training to learn about coersive predators, and how to support victims.
admission of guilt wrote on Jan 15, 2009 8:28 AM:
Nanrev states that she is in the know about what happened between these two. She must have watched their interactions. Why didn't she intervene? Perhaps we have more then one guilty party.
no trial wrote on Jan 15, 2009 8:16 AM:
I am happy to hear that this will not be going through trial. I'm sure that the victim has been through enough trama and hardship. I have followed this story, as many have, and was shocked by some of the posts on the other blogs. My heart truly goes out to this girl. May she be able to begin the healing process now.
Reed---banjo enthusiast wrote on Jan 15, 2009 8:01 AM:
let me guess, you also think the "poe-lease" are after all the good guys.
Healing wrote on Jan 15, 2009 7:56 AM:
our hearts are with this victim so that she can move on and begin to see that not all people you trust will take advantage of that trust. We are here and have always supported you, even when the perp said he didn't do it.
yuck wrote on Jan 15, 2009 7:46 AM:
It's dispicable that you would blame this girl. Ya she might have payed a part but he is the adult.
To Nanarev wrote on Jan 15, 2009 7:38 AM:
Tslk about going back to your trailer, this takes the cake. A boy-girl relationship?? There are groups calling inappropriate adult-child sexual relationships "love". Perhaps you have been visiting too many of them.
to reed wrote on Jan 14, 2009 11:04 PM:
You my friend are the reason there are laws against it, for the ADULTS, who have the inability to realize that THEY are the ADULTS, and that it is up to them to make the right decision. Whether the KID wants it or not is a moot point.
How anyone can blame it on the kid, when the ADULT, who has the responsibility to make the right decision, and should be more than painfully aware of the consequences, is beyond me.
Go back to your trailer, turn the internet off, and practice your banjo.
How anyone can blame it on the kid, when the ADULT, who has the responsibility to make the right decision, and should be more than painfully aware of the consequences, is beyond me.
Go back to your trailer, turn the internet off, and practice your banjo.
nanarev wrote on Jan 14, 2009 8:31 PM:
Now we really know or do we? If he slept with the girl, it was wrong, but to my knowledge it was a two way street that had been building for quite some time in a boy-girl relationship. Of Course only those two know the real story. Too bad the news only tells one side of the story. Stay strong Damon, She'll be 18 one day and then you can get married and make it legal.
" Whatsoever is sowed shall surly be reaped." According to the WORD.
" Whatsoever is sowed shall surly be reaped." According to the WORD.
reed wrote on Jan 14, 2009 5:52 PM:
thanks for admitting your crime but in my opinion too many younger girls have sex with older guys and then get them for rape its so sad!!!!
Best move you could have made wrote on Jan 14, 2009 4:05 PM:
Admitting and facing your crime is the beginning of healing and possibly even forgiveness.
comment wrote on Jan 14, 2009 1:51 PM:
I DO NOT approve of what this 'person' did - but i do have to say - THANK YOU for admitting your crime and not wasting our time or tax dollars trying to fool people into believing you are innocent.
Please take the time to read through your bible... i think you will have time to do that now.
Please take the time to read through your bible... i think you will have time to do that now.
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