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Excessive Force wrote on Feb 24, 2009 11:29 PM:
Coos County... there is no JUSTICE, Just Us
I know this is off this subject but recently I was traveling through MP, stopped by the local police and my rights were violated. My life was even threatened at one point. This was on a routine traffic stop. I am looking now for persons who have been stopped and had their rights violated, had excessive force used against them etc. email me at excessive.force@hotmail.com There is still corruption going on at this time. I do not plan on stopping at this level. There is always a higher up. United we stand, divided we fall!
I know this is off this subject but recently I was traveling through MP, stopped by the local police and my rights were violated. My life was even threatened at one point. This was on a routine traffic stop. I am looking now for persons who have been stopped and had their rights violated, had excessive force used against them etc. email me at excessive.force@hotmail.com There is still corruption going on at this time. I do not plan on stopping at this level. There is always a higher up. United we stand, divided we fall!
Shut Up wrote on Feb 12, 2009 9:39 AM:
Get a life and stop running the man, down. I don't even know the man nor am I from the same town. Odds are with a first time offense he will get, somthing better than if it would have been is 2nd, 3rd or 4th. Offense! So it won't be because he was a cop but because that the way our system works, and frankly you would be happy with that if he was your husband, dad, friend, or even if it was you. You know remember that Family members probably do read these things and take the time to put yourself in there shoes for a moment. I am not saying it was right at, all but we have all done wrong! It is not our job to judge!
higher standard wrote on Jan 15, 2009 2:08 PM:
To those saying he should be held to a higher standard, first off, let me say I wholeheartedly agree. Second, he IS being held to a higher standard, hence the misconduct charge. Personally I'd like to see the max on both.
Hey VETCOP wrote on Jan 15, 2009 9:43 AM:
Instead of the code of silence, why not police your own? You have NO say in the matter until you and your colleagues clean your own house. Who's side are you on? I know the answer.
fishslayer wrote on Jan 14, 2009 4:45 PM:
to not perfect...your name says it all,
why are you whining over the mention of using the road crew for policing the city. i was suggesting a possible job for these hard working souls. this guy
should not have got bail. plea bargin. i've got lots of stones but prefer a moving target. send him to myrtle point he'll fit right in.
why are you whining over the mention of using the road crew for policing the city. i was suggesting a possible job for these hard working souls. this guy
should not have got bail. plea bargin. i've got lots of stones but prefer a moving target. send him to myrtle point he'll fit right in.
So sick of... wrote on Jan 14, 2009 4:30 AM:
Hearing about our city police maiming people. How many of you witnessed this incident. I wasn't there to know if excess force was used or not, but I do know regardless of what happened, too many of you that are so ready to find fault with our law enforcement officers that you'd slam them no matter what they facts are.They have a job to do, and often only have a split second to make a decision on how to handle each situation to the best of their ability.Instead of judging, put yourself in their position, from what I've read about the actual facts, they did their jobs in the manner in which they were trained.
Donny wrote on Jan 13, 2009 1:17 PM:
I don't see anyone trying to deny the officer a fair trial. I'd just like to see the penalties harsher for him, as an officer of the law, if he is found guilty. A message should be sent: "Break a law under the color of authority, and suffer." People will never respect the law around here if the courts don't hold Police Officers to tighter standards, plain and simple. The comments about this topic have shown that officers in Coos County are not respected for this reason.
Poke in the eye.. wrote on Jan 12, 2009 8:08 PM:
It is unfortunate for those of us who are good cops, take pride in our choosen and rewarding career's. Most of us enjoy helping others and fighting crime, only to be thought of as thugs, bullies and criminal's ourselves because of garbage like this man. He is a disgrace to us all. No excuses....
Bad Cop No Donut wrote on Jan 12, 2009 7:34 PM:
Why are there so many people excusing his behavior as a mistake?
A mistake is an error, blunder, misconception or misunderstanding. Stealing money from the evidence room was not a "mistake". It was an act of selfishness and stupidity. I could accept that he might feel remorse for getting caught but if you are trying to get me to believe he's a good guy, sorry but I'm not buying it! There is no way he could have mistakenly thought this money was his.
Somehow, we have to stop this cylce of bad law enforcement. Stronger punishment for law enforcement who commit crimes is one way this could do this.
A mistake is an error, blunder, misconception or misunderstanding. Stealing money from the evidence room was not a "mistake". It was an act of selfishness and stupidity. I could accept that he might feel remorse for getting caught but if you are trying to get me to believe he's a good guy, sorry but I'm not buying it! There is no way he could have mistakenly thought this money was his.
Somehow, we have to stop this cylce of bad law enforcement. Stronger punishment for law enforcement who commit crimes is one way this could do this.
good cop bad cop wrote on Jan 12, 2009 7:20 PM:
The comments in this thread, and the legal circumstances of this case are indicators that so many police organizations have enjoyed "secret society" status for way too long. There should be better accountability and transparency in how they conduct their affairs. I'm sure Ulmer was cast out as an easy target, a scapegoat that will take the blame for all police corruption, though his offenses are probably minor in comparison with those perpetrated by others and still unpunished.
VETCOP wrote on Jan 12, 2009 10:58 AM:
I am starting to think that some people do not read these opnions. One example would be vetcopsounds like one. You are right you caught me I am one and I never stated that any cop was above the law, if you had read what I wrote you would have noticed I simply gave my opinion and no one is above the law!! My point was this! When someone gets charged,even cops, they all deserve a fair trial. I am not defending him and I believe he will get what he deserves. In 24 years I have seen a large number of cops go to jail, so I don't know where you get your information.
DAB wrote on Jan 10, 2009 4:02 PM:
I'm all for cops getting double the punishment. We should hold them to a higher standard, being that we are subject to their scrutiny, and can have our liberties curtailed, practically at their whim. I'd rather have honest men behind the badge.
vetcopsounds like one wrote on Jan 9, 2009 9:45 AM:
The public have changed ? Where are you from ? There has ALWAYS been a drug/alcohol problem here. Number 1 in the state for a long time now. I can remember about 15 years ago, 2 coquille officers, quit the force and moved on. We found out later, it was a drug rehab place they were moving on to. Sounds to me you want to be above the laws. I have seen it a lot around here. He will get a handslap. Thats it.
VETCOP wrote on Jan 9, 2009 9:07 AM:
I can't believe what I am hearing: Corruption,higher standard,bad cops,double the punishment? Would you at least wait until the man is sentenced before you assume he is going to get off? I think he should be punished to the extent the law allows just like anyone else. One cop makes a bad choice and we all pay for it, I agree that todays cop has changed, but so has the public! Cops are held to a higher standard for those of you who think they aren't. Therefore they don't deserve any breaks when they get caught.
Curious wrote on Jan 9, 2009 9:03 AM:
Why no word about the MP police sergent that pulled a gun on someone and is on administrative leave. I have heard about him for months around town. Why not do some really news work and find out!!
dave wrote on Jan 9, 2009 7:32 AM:
this poc will go to another small town and be a cop again..it happens all the time...what a disgrace to the badge...Bully boys with badges and guns that have no integrity or pride..And they wonder why they dont get any respect
Tom wrote on Jan 8, 2009 9:02 PM:
yep,,,,there ya go...... casting the first stone. Now there is the Coquille I know.
Bad Cop No Donut wrote on Jan 8, 2009 6:49 PM:
This area seems to attrack bad cops. I wonder why?
It's law enforcements job to know the law. They should be held to a higher standard. I think when law enforcement breaks the law they should be given double the punishment that an regular citizen would get.
It's law enforcements job to know the law. They should be held to a higher standard. I think when law enforcement breaks the law they should be given double the punishment that an regular citizen would get.
CB Lifer wrote on Jan 8, 2009 5:00 PM:
I believe ALL "officers of the law" should be held at a higher standard than we are as citizens. He needs to be sentenced to the full extent, then maybe they'd quit having so many criminals on the police force if they're made to pay for their crimes. Oh yeah, the criminals get off easy too, so why should anyone have to get more than a slap on the wrist?
Not Perfect wrote on Jan 8, 2009 4:13 PM:
LOCK EM UP AND THROW AWAY THE KEY: Sounds like you have a personal issue with ulmer. He's not a bad person, everyone makes mistakes.. I'm sure your not perfect.
fishslayer: Leave the Road crew out of it !!!!!! THEY GOT SCREWED!!!!!!!!!!
ULMER is not a bad person he made a bad judgment and got caught.
fishslayer: Leave the Road crew out of it !!!!!! THEY GOT SCREWED!!!!!!!!!!
ULMER is not a bad person he made a bad judgment and got caught.
less than 2 months wrote on Jan 8, 2009 3:56 PM:
It took our new Police Chief less than 2 months to uncover just part of the coquille coruption. The last chief was here for 7+ years. A lot of coruption happened under his watch. This new chief seems to be pretty sharp. We have needed this for sometime now.
HEY wrote on Jan 8, 2009 3:38 PM:
leave the guy alone,he made a mistake. he doesn't deserve jail. there are two sides to every story.
curious wrote on Jan 8, 2009 3:05 PM:
Who is the MP cop that was suspended? I hadn't heard about that.
Linda wrote on Jan 8, 2009 2:39 PM:
To Interesting, the moral to this story is.... if you want to do illegal stuff and get away with it, be a doctor,cop,attorney, ahhh teachers good too heck maybe even DA.
HELLO wrote on Jan 8, 2009 1:21 PM:
TO INTERESTING::::::::What is it with these cops?There just trying to keep up or be part of the untouchables(drs.,lawyers, and the part of the gang.
Interesting wrote on Jan 8, 2009 12:10 PM:
This has all been interesting to say the least...but there has never been any mention of a Myrtle Point officer that has been suspended since 12-19-08 and is under investagation by the OSP. What is it with all these cops going bad?
LOCK EM UP AND THROW AWAY THE KEY wrote on Jan 8, 2009 12:10 PM:
I hope that he gets what he deserves. He needs to be fined and spend a full prison sentence.
fishslayer wrote on Jan 8, 2009 11:37 AM:
why is this guy already getting a plea deal, coquilledeal... try him and he gets sentenced if we cant trust our cops their is a serious problem, oh yea its in coquille, to protect and serve,cripple,mane,and steal the police evidence. why not hire the road crew that got layed off to police the city. could they do any worse???
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