Smoking ban deadline nears

By Jo Rafferty, Staff Writer
Sunday, December 28, 2008 | 70 comment(s)

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Tick. Tock. Puff. Puff.

The countdown to the new year has begun and bar patrons are lighting up all over town — while they still can.

Another deadline is looming. Oregon’s new Smoke-free Workplace Law will go into effect at 12:01 a.m. for bars starting on New Year’s Day.

“Will I stand outside? I guess so,” said Jim Luther, a smoker who was hanging out at Gooney’s Sports Bar in Coos Bay. “I worry about it, but I can’t fight politics.”

Luther, like many smokers, isn’t looking forward to the new law, but he plans to abide by it.

At local bars, most smokers are preparing mostly with reluctant submissiveness, but not all.

Blue Moon Restaurant & Lounge bartender Kathleen Barko said she has been against the law since she first heard about it.

“I think the president should veto it,” Barko said angrily. “We didn’t get to vote on it.”

Canon Lingreen, a 10-year Blue Moon customer, echoed the sentiment, saying he enjoys smoking when sitting at a bar.

“Now it will be the same no matter where I go.” Lingreen said.

As to the law’s impacts on business, bar owners don’t seem too worried. There may be a slowdown in the beginning, but in the long run it may increase business, said Lori Ross, who owns Gooney’s with her husband, Ron Ross.

“We have food here,” Lori said. “I’m looking forward to getting more people in to eat.”

Both former smokers, Ron and Lori say they’re thankful they already have an outdoor beer garden. It will allow their customers to stand at least 10 feet away from the building’s doors or windows, as is specified by Senate Bill 571. But the Rosses feel bad for their smoking customers.

“Who’s going to sit out there in the middle of January?” asked Ron.

They’re also not sure they like the government telling them what they can allow in their own business, but have resigned themselves to it.

Enforcement will be complaint-driven. Once a complaint comes in, Stephen Brown, Coos County’s tobacco prevention program coordinator, will send a letter to the bar owner making sure the individual knows the law. If a second complaint is filed, Brown will visit the site and the owner will have to complete a remediation plan.

“We’re not going to be going out patrolling,” Brown said.

If the bar owner still doesn’t comply, the case will be turned over to the state, which can charge $500 a day while a bar is in violation, but not more than $2,000 in a month.

There’s a catch in the law, though. It doesn’t mandate smokeless casinos, which are run by Indian tribes. Lori said she worries she may lose customers to The Mill Casino-Hotel in North Bend.

“Oh, I’m sure we’ll see an increase of guests, but I think our main draw is still gaming, not whether someone can smoke here,” said Ray Doering, The Mill’s communications coordinator. “In fact, we have a very large facility where people can game that’s completely non-smoking.”

Like the Rosses, some tavern owners are looking at ways to put outdoor smoking areas on their properties, but far enough away from their buildings to meet the law. The biggest obstacle is expense.

“I don’t have the space or the money to build an enclosure,” said Blue Moon Restaurant & Lounge owner Natalie-Monique Ocampo. “Right now my plan is to put up an awning with a heater and call it a day.”

With that she might be faced with providing security personnel outdoors and dealing with noise complaints from neighbors, she said.

There are some businesses around town that went smoke free years ago.

Roger Scott, the owner of Roger’s Zoo in North Bend, hasn’t allowed smoking since he re-opened his bar and pizzeria in 1996.

When he first announced his smokeless policies he took a lot of flak from customers.

“People told me they would picket,” Scott said. “I told them I’d give them the paint and the buckets to make the signs.”

The impetus for Oregon’s law is to protect people’s health. Luther prefers to smoke while drinking, but he thinks the law might influence him to take up that healthier lifestyle.

“Do you think maybe I’ll quit smoking?” Luther asked himself. “I wonder.”

“I’d like to quit it,” said Kevin Ansboro, who joined in the conversation.

For nonsmokers, it’s annoying having to endure other people’s smoke.

“In smoky bars, you walk out and you stink all night long,” said former bartender Carla Mobley.

These days she stops in across town at the newer Walt’s Pourhouse, which has been a non-smoking tavern since it opened in June. Owner Natalie Speidel is a little worried about the new law. Her business caters to customers who come specifically to eat and drink in a smoke-free establishment.

“I think it’s one of the main reasons we’ve done so well,” Speidel said.

Now, she’ll have more competition, as her customers have more options come Thursday.

— Reedsport reporter Jack Carrerow contributed to this story.
The details


What: Oregon’s Smoke-free Workplace Law expands the law regarding smoking in public places.


• All businesses and public agencies must enforce a new rule that smoking is not allowed within 10 feet of any doors, windows that can be opened, or ventilation intakes.


• All businesses must post stickers on all doors, explaining the 10-foot restriction. Door stickers will be available for free at local city halls, at the local chambers of commerce, at the health department in the North Bend Annex or at the county commissioner’s office at the courthouse in Coquille.


When: The law takes effect at 12 a.m. on Jan. 1.


Where: The rules apply to businesses including bars, bowling alleys and bingo halls.


For more information: call (866) 621-6107, or contact the Coos County Tobacco Program coordinator at 756-2020 ext. 546.


On the Net: http://www.health-oregon.org/smokefree.
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miss G wrote on Jan 19, 2009 8:26 AM:

Has anyone noticed that now we have groups of people standing outside bars and other drinking establisments so that they may smoke.For some reason this concerns me on a personal safety level.Driving through Coos Bay the other night i saw groups of people standing outside several places.Besides it being unattractive it is going to make me think twice about going places in these vicinities especially at night.I am female and often am alone and always felt safe before but this new law will sure make me feel a little less independant. On another note I am a smoker and I totally oppose this law. I find it hard to believe that non-smokers are so desperate to frequent these establishments.

To who are you wrote on Jan 6, 2009 2:47 PM:

WE the smokers are telling you if you can't stand the smoke, get out of the bar. If you don't like it go somewhere else!!

TO SOME FACTS... wrote on Jan 5, 2009 10:47 PM:

Every five minutes, someone in the United States is killed by an accident, according to new research from The National Safety Council (NSC).Yet, for people between the ages of 1 and 41, accidental deaths are the leading cause of death in the nation, and they're increasing at a greater rate than any of the other top causes of death.Accidental death in America is a silent epidemic. With one person dying from an accident every five minutes, unintentional injury is one of the most serious public health issues facing the country," said NSC President and CEO Alan McMillan.

Ignorance is Bliss wrote on Jan 5, 2009 2:01 AM:

I don't smoke, I don't really care for the smell but I hang out with people who do smoke. My problem is when the government (law makers) tell you that you cannot do something in your own business. Alot of people here are talking about smoking bars and non-smoking bars. That is the way it should be. People have a right to do as they wish. It's called free will! People who don't smoke have a right to go to a bar that does not allow it. People applying for jobs have a right to apply at a bar that allows or does not allow it. To all you bar owners out there, I say I am sorry, You should have the right to choose as you see fit.

Some facts wrote on Jan 4, 2009 8:14 PM:

Good Grief get the facts before spouting off. The top 4 causes of death are all affected by smoking or inhaling second hand smoke:

Cause %
heart attack 28.50%
cancer 22.80%
stroke 6.70%
emphysema, chronic bronchitis 5.10%
accidents 4.40%

future non-smoker wrote on Jan 4, 2009 7:06 PM:

Being,a bartender. I'm glad the law went through for my own sake. I have tried to quit smoking before with no luck. I figured why bother if im going to smell like a cigarette. Last time I tried to quit, customers blew smoke in my face constantly with no concerns and lack of respect knowing that I was trying to quit. I look forward to my quitting date. I know that not having the smoke around me will make my venture a successful one, and I'll be saving a heck of alot of money in the future.

good grief wrote on Jan 3, 2009 5:37 PM:

car accidents and drunk drivers kill more people each year than smoking, so do guns... so lets ban people from driving, from now on, everyone should have to WALK everywhere they go, not only will it prevent deaths, it will give cleaner air to breathe from all that carbon monoxide... for all of oregon bars.. sorry, guess you didnt want my money bad enough i'll stay home, buy 10 times the alcohol you sell 1 for, and smoke my cigarettes, so guess what, im saving gas and money... whoo hooo

Didnt Stop The Fun wrote on Jan 3, 2009 1:18 PM:

Wow....first weekend in a bar where it's usually so smokey you can't see who's around you. No smoke, it was clear as a bell, smelled clean and not ONE person trying to smoke. They went outside (even the bartender) and sure, it was cold, but they smoked and came back in and life went on. The bar was busy, good money-making night and we had a blast. And I can breathe today! Whoo Hoo!!!

Who Are You wrote on Jan 3, 2009 12:40 PM:

I don't give a flying fig if anyone smokes or not, as long as they don't pollute the air I have to breathe. If they can figure out how to keep it to themselves, go for it! For the people who don't want the government telling them where they can and cannot smoke, thereby limiting where they can go, the flip side is: your smoke limits where non-smokers can and cannot go. If non-smokers have to sit next to smokers, they have it worse than the smokers because the crap coming from the lit end of the cigarette isn't filtered like the crap the smokers are sucking into their mouth and lungs. And I'm sick of hearing "if you don't like it, go somewhere else". Why should I? I'm not polluting YOUR air or endangering YOUR life. If more smokers were considerate of others, it wouldn't have come to this.

Shawn wrote on Jan 2, 2009 8:15 PM:

Tobacco Ban: Because Prohibition worked so well the first time around.

Exquisite wrote on Jan 2, 2009 5:23 PM:

“A cigarette is the perfect type of a perfect pleasure. It is exquisite, and it leaves one unsatisfied. What more can one want?”
... Oscar Wilde

Burned Up wrote on Jan 2, 2009 4:26 PM:

George Burns, famed for his love of fine cigars, was a longtime member of L.A.'s exclusive Hillcrest Country Club. When Burns complained one day about the club's new ban on smoking, a special sign was posted for Burns' benefit:
"Cigar smoking prohibited for anyone under 95."
Sounds reasonable enough to me.

Germany wrote on Jan 2, 2009 4:19 PM:

In Germany, cigarette machines now verify age: The purchaser must inserting a debit or credit card. Since the introduction of this measure, sales from vending machines on the street are reported to have dropped sharply. Not foolproof, but one way to inhibit access for children.

Hacker wrote on Jan 2, 2009 4:05 PM:

Smoke stinks. It's unhealthy. It's a foul habit. It kills people early. There's absolutely nothing good about smoking. If you are really worried about lost tax revenues, donate 2 dollars to the county tax collector for every pack you would have smoked for the next year and both the county and you will come out ahead. Stub out the butts!

R E S P E C T wrote on Jan 2, 2009 3:09 PM:

What is all of this trash talk for? Smokers vs Non-Smokers gives you another reason to hate.

I am a non-smoker but some of my best friends smoke. We hang at Walt's Pour House which is a non-smoking bar. We also hang out at other bars that used to allow smoking. My smoker friends are always respectful of others rights. Before this law, I also had the choice as a non-smoker to not go to a smoking bar.

If you don't like the laws, quit posting hateful comments against eachother and learn how to spell. Then maybe you could write to your representatives about your concerns.

Instead of worrying about smoking rights in the bars maybe we should focus on the group of under age teenagers who hang on the corner of 7th and Golden(between MHS and the Coos Bay Post Office)and chain smoke while on recess or lunch break.

Socialism Anyone wrote on Jan 2, 2009 2:34 PM:

Won't be long now! We are getting laws that aren't voted on. The government is in the ownership business for the auto industry, the financial industry and the housing industry. Obama is touting 2.5 millions jobs working on infrastructure. Smoking is just one little piece of the pie. Sorry folks

Joe Camel wrote on Jan 2, 2009 2:30 PM:

The real issue here is what we should do with the smokers. I contend that we should take anyone who smokes and chain that to a stockade and throw rocks at their face. We should all put cigarettes out on their face. How about just don't go to smoking bars if you don't like it. Or I suppose you could just shut up.

R E S P E C T wrote on Jan 2, 2009 12:33 PM:

What is all of this trash talk for? Smokers vs Non-Smokers gives you another reason to hate.

I am a non-smoker but some of my best friends smoke. We hang at Walt's Pour House which is a non-smoking bar. We also hang out at other bars that used to allow smoking. My smoker friends are always respectful of others rights. Before this law, I also had the choice as a non-smoker to not go to a smoking bar.

If you don't like the laws, quit posting hateful comments against eachother and learn how to spell. Then maybe you could write to your representatives about your concerns.

Instead of worrying about smoking rights in the bars maybe we should focus on the group of under age teenagers who hang on the corner of 7th and Golden(between MHS and the Coos Bay Post Office)and chain smoke while on recess or lunch break.

smokeless white house wrote on Jan 2, 2009 9:39 AM:

Barack Obama is a smoker!!
Do you think they will make him stay 10 feet away from the Oval Office?

To Just Deal wrote on Jan 2, 2009 8:08 AM:

You are Naive to think that the Young people are the money makers in Coos County!!!
How much do you think the retirees are making on thier pensions?
How about the California folks who sold their places and bought here for 1/2 the Price?
HA HA, live and learn... you are not so important!!

As Benjamin Franklin put it wrote on Jan 2, 2009 8:04 AM:

'Be always at war with your vices,
at peace with your neighbors,
and let each new year find you a better man.'
HAPPY 2009!!

Smirking... wrote on Jan 1, 2009 8:07 PM:

Smoking in Bars isn't Oregon's problem, but I guess the voters have no civic pride and dance around the real issues, such as meth. No, you won't be able to smoke in bars, but you will still be able to buy meth from a bar patron.
Distressing to me is the likely fact that more enforcement will be directed at busting smokers than busting dopers.

Nelson Muntz wrote on Jan 1, 2009 6:10 PM:

MAMA SMOKER... did you know poor spelling causes more deaths than smoking and drinking combined?

Oh wait, I better spell it in a language you can actually understand.

MAMA SMOKER... dyd yu knoh poure spelink cahzez moor deths thahn smokink ahnd drinkink cumbynd?

HA! HA! YOU CAN'T SMOKE ANYMORE IN BARS!!!

Mop wrote on Jan 1, 2009 3:44 PM:

The Mill Casino does not have a bar that is as relaxing as Goonies, Gussies, Tinys, etc........... So in my own opinion, the local bars have nothing to worry about.

navy man wrote on Dec 31, 2008 5:30 PM:

I'm a smoker, and maybe I should be dumb and start talking about how unattractive non smokers are and how they don't smell like smoke makes me sick and all kinds of stuff that would feed fuel to the fire of the belief that all smokers want to give everyone cancer and make the world bad. Thank God I live in Texas now where if I want to go to a bar that allows smoking I can go, but wait, there's bars that don't allow it and if my friends want to go there thats cool too because I won't smoke when I go there. If the bartender at the place with smoking can't handle working there all she needs to is write to Obama and he'll give her a new job because things are going to change, yes we can.

To Get a Grip wrote on Dec 31, 2008 5:24 PM:

Guess what? I am an ex-smoker and I support this law. Yes, I go the bar (because I work a karaoke show), and guess what else? I DRINK ALCOHOL. Not water, not soda (ok, soda is mixed with my alcohol), but I do drink. And I'll bet I spend just as much as you do on drinking (minus what you spend on cancer sticks). When I get up the next morning, it takes a good 1/2 hour of coughing to clear your cigarette residue out of my lungs. So don't say you're the only ones that make the bar money. Just because we don't smoke, we still drink.

To No Smoke wrote on Dec 31, 2008 3:20 PM:

You made a comment about seeing a beautiful woman lighting a cigarette and it was a turn off. If you're looking to pick up chicks that don't light up,try a church instead.

Why wrote on Dec 31, 2008 3:14 PM:

Why are you non-smokers hanging out in bars in the first place? You obviously feel that you're too good to socialize with someone who smokes. Most non-smokers don't drink alcohol anyway, everyone knows alcohol and cigarettes go together. I'm not looking forward to leaving my drink behind to go out and smoke.We have to hope no one puts in a mickey or god knows what! Thanks a lot you non-smokers! I agree with Tats, non-smokers should have their own bar, Maybe then they will quit whining and sniveling about every little thing. And I also agree the bar should have a say so about smoking or not smoking, It is their livlihood here at stake. You non-smokers stay at your little tea parties and stay far away from the bars. I think you'll be happier.Happy New Year!

No Smoke wrote on Dec 31, 2008 12:56 PM:

Wow, now maybe I can go and play some of Oregon Lottery machines, without putting up with smoke and especially the people working in the restaurants coming into the lottery room to smoke on their breaks, and filling the room with their smoke. How disgusting to see a beautiful woman and see her ruin it by pulling out a cigarette and lighting up, does she know what a turn off that is ?

NON wrote on Dec 31, 2008 12:50 PM:

Isn't it nice to go out on a date with someone who smells like a dirty ashtray??????? I have had women and men go by me in stores or whereever and I think, my gosh, how can anyone put up with someone smelling so bad. Do they even know how bad they smell?? I guess not if they smoke. Some of you smokers wonder why you can't get a date, well this might be the reason.

To TATS wrote on Dec 31, 2008 12:43 PM:

Duhhhhhh, of course there are more smokers than non smokers in bars, BECAUSE the non smokers can't take the smoke and stay home instead. Now maybe the non smokers can leave home once in a while and go socialize in a bar with a friend for a couple drinks and some pool or whatever. THERE ARE MORE NON SMOKERS THAN SMOKERS YOU SHOULD KNOW. Its just the smokers are the loudest voices heard when they cannot smoke.
I like the new law, maybe I can be one of the people getting out of my house now and go someplace.

MAMA SMOKER wrote on Dec 31, 2008 12:40 PM:

i HAVE SMOKED FOR MANY YEARS AND I KNOW MORE PEOPLE THAT DIE FROM DRUNK DRIVING THEN SMOKEING. iF IT BOTHERS EMPLOYEE'S GET ANOTHER JOB, YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT. NEXT THNING WE KNOW WE WILL HAVE TO TELL THE GOVERNER HOE MUCH TOILET PAPER WE USE, FOR GREEN PURPUCES.

TATS wrote on Dec 31, 2008 6:18 AM:

I smoke and have been a bartender in a few bars in North Bend & Coos Bay. There are way more many smokers then NONE smokers that go to the bars. Besides if they want a NONE smoking bar... maybe they should open one up.. and leave the rest of us alone. Besides we as SMOKERS have no rights anymore...but everyone want the taxes raised so they can have health care. COME ON PEOPLE WE can't have it both ways. I think it should be left up to the BAR owners if they want Smoking or None. I think we need to get rid of our Government and all these Special Interest Groups and start over.

SMOKIN MAD wrote on Dec 30, 2008 10:02 PM:

God Bless all of us ex-smokers for having the courage to quit. God Bless the lawmakers for taking away the right of private business to have no choice. God Bless the nonsmoker that thinks the smell of a snootful of booze is worse than cigs. God Bless the Bar Owners, bartenders and wait staff for putting up with all this. EAT, DRINK, AND BE MERRY IN 2009

Just Deal wrote on Dec 30, 2008 9:12 PM:

Most of the money makers in this area are the young people. And a great majority of the young people that go out go to Walts or end up at Maks. Guess what...both are nonsmoking, and guess what else? They deal with and are not complaining. The chainsmoking people that visit establishments like Goonies, "Gussies" and the Silverdollar, yes you may have to give up your assigned barstool to go smoke. May be good for you, consider it cardio. This law will have NO impact on people going out.

Big brother. . . wrote on Dec 30, 2008 7:40 PM:

You are all correct big brother should get out of our lives.

Smoke and you should become ineligible for medicare and medicaid. The tax payers shouldn't have to pay for your poor health decisions.

Don't want to wear a motorcycle helmet or a seatbelt. Well, then give up the public service and social security disability checks when you are permanently injured in an accident from a preventable injury.

And so on and so forth. . .

You smoke and complain that government is encroaching on your rights. Well, I have a right to NOT pay for your chemo when your lungs give up. . .

Bar Owner wrote on Dec 30, 2008 7:23 PM:

If you don't like it, don't work their or patronize that establishment. I resent the fact that I as a smoker and a business owner, am being told that I cannot allow smoking in MY business!

SJ wrote on Dec 30, 2008 6:39 PM:

I saw this in Corvallis where smoking is banned from bars.

Children picking up dozens of half-smoked cigarettes in the parking lots and porches at the bars in the morning on the way to school, because bar patrons are in such a hurry to get out of the cold and back to thier drinks.

I think most patrons that frequent bars are smokers and local bar owners will lose big to the Mill Casino where you can drink and smoke at the same time.

A Stupid Law wrote on Dec 30, 2008 4:07 PM:

Hey,right on to Get a A Grip!! You are so right. Good points you made, I know for a fact that most bartenders are smokers. I can't imagine a nonsmoker wanting to be working around smoke. Most bars that i have been in,
the bartenders are so busy trying to keep everyone happy,they don't get many breaks, so they smoke while they work. That is their break.So now, they will be out there smoking with us. And everyone will complain where is the bartender? So, you nonsmokers had better not complain. Another situation; i'm sure there are a few doctors that smoke, if they are craving a cigarette (at the hospital where it is no longer allowed) would you want them to perform an operation on you or a loved one? I don't think so. Things to think about.

about time wrote on Dec 30, 2008 3:35 PM:

the bars are not the only places enforcing this law, alot of companies are not allowing their employees to smoke on the property at all. smokers choose to smoke. the people that come into contact with them and their cancer stick do not ask to breathe in second hand smoke. so if u can't get your fix in your car or in your home that is not the publics problem. we have a right to go into any establishment and breathe clean smoke free air.

where will taxes come from wrote on Dec 30, 2008 8:01 AM:

Does anyone see the irony?
Cigarette tax revenue has been a big part of state budgets.
Now, governments will have to cover the lost revenue. Where will the money come from?

smoke em if ya got em wrote on Dec 30, 2008 7:50 AM:

Once again, Big brother telling us how to live our lives. Come on Sheep, follow the sheppherd. And a reminder to all the liberals for this law, your commander in chief who gets sworn in on Jan. 20th is a SMOKER!!

What a Shame wrote on Dec 30, 2008 6:57 AM:

TO POOL: YOU are one of the people that I am talking about. Couple of beers then you get in your car and drive. I hope that you are caught someday BEFORE you are involved in a accident. If people like you would only injure themselves in a accident that would be different, but usually the one that gets hurt is the innocent bistander or some little child, just becaust you had to have a "COUPLE OF BEERS".

A Stupid Law wrote on Dec 30, 2008 12:02 AM:

Well here are..another stupid law. All of us who smoke are being discriminated
against over and over. When does it stop? OK..picture this..we are standing 10 feet from the door, whether it be a bar or other stores. happily smoking our cigarettes {with an umbrella to stay dry if raining}you prissy non-smokers STILL have to walk past us to get inside! One whiff of smoke will not give you cancer, i promise! so what if tou get a little smoke on your clothes, you have heard of washers and dryers. This law is going way too far. I feel we have just as much right to sit in a bar and enjoy our smoke. we are paying customers too. And if you don't like it then move!! this method has worked for years, so why the big fuss? And another thing. buisnesses had better put out alot of ashtrays 10 feet from the store. Just think of the lovely butts you get to walk through!!At least most smokers were using the ashtrays close to the storefront. I always have. you non smokers are way too uptight. Get a life and let us smoke in peace.

everyday man wrote on Dec 29, 2008 9:03 PM:

If you ban everything but your own personal wants people buy into the garbarge from the bought an paid for talking head SURGEON GENERAL,then ban all car's,coffee,fat food,bad t.v.these things kill more people ever year than smoking.I f smoking kill's as many people each year as these quacks claim,very soon there will be only 100 people left in this country.

get a grip wrote on Dec 29, 2008 3:56 PM:

bigger picture... excuse me, but 90% of the bartenders smoke, so the next time you want a drink, and cant find the bartender, you can wait til hes done huffin and a puffin, because you voted on that one.. and if you dont want to smell like an ashtray, stay home... all the non smokers are the ones not buying drinks anyways... they just drink their water and soda pop, so they are not the money makers here, the smokers are, i cant wait til all the bars are empty, and i will laugh laugh laugh when all the stores sells go up, and revenue goes down, gussies wont be the only one closing.......

Bigger Picture wrote on Dec 29, 2008 12:11 PM:

A factory would not be allowed to expose its workers to a known carcinogen. Workers would find themselves in bunny suits with respirators. So why should we allow bar owners to expose their workers to second hand smoke, something that effectively amounts to an airborne hazardous chemical? If these workers are eventually diagnosed with lung cancer, should the taxpayers then foot the bill for the workers compensation benefits? I have heard the argument that bar workers know the risks and voluntarily accept these risks. If that were the case, why do we bother with any workplace safety regulations at all?

Supportive Smoker wrote on Dec 29, 2008 11:55 AM:

I am a smoker and have been hearing such negative comments from people about this smoking ban. The truth is that these people that don't smoke really DON'T DESERVE to breath our smoke in and smell like it to boot. If anything maybe we will cut down a bit on the puffing, I smoke more when I go out because it's like a social thing but if it's not around me I won't think about it so much. The Mill will still have smoking so there is still somewhere to go if you must puff!

Pool wrote on Dec 29, 2008 11:16 AM:

I Mean Cmon ---- You are way off base. I like to play pool with friends, and have maybe 1 or 2 beers at the most. I don't go out to get promiscuous. You have a one track mind.

What a Shame wrote on Dec 29, 2008 10:03 AM:

To all of you do gooder non smoking complainers who go to the bars to get a few drinks, THEN DRIVE HOME. To me the best thing that the government could do to help everyone would be to make it illegal to drink period. No more beer guzzling family fights, no more drunk drivers running over our children, no more innocent drunks saying, "It wasn't my fault, I was drunk".. Make it better for everyone, outlaw drinking period just like they are in the future outlaw smoking.

I Mean Cmon wrote on Dec 29, 2008 8:55 AM:

Nothing makes feel unhealthier after a night of binge drinking, promiscuous sexual practices and various other reckless behaviors than the smell of cigarette smoke. I mean c'mon it's so gross.

NON SMOKER wrote on Dec 28, 2008 10:04 PM:

I think that it is great that this law was passed. I hate going places and coming home smelling like an ashtray.If you want to smoke at the bar than maybe you should go to the mill casino !!!

smoking is legal or they wouldnt sell them... get over it wrote on Dec 28, 2008 9:54 PM:

well ive got news for you, i now live in california, and i smoke, and i can go to the bar, and guess what, they are all empty... no one goes anymore. they dont have a "section" to go out to, and people dont like to leave their drinks to go out and smoke for fear of someone putting something in it, or taking it... so i feel, oregon, you are at a great loss here. 75% of the population that go out, only smoke when they are out drinking, and therefore, will go to someones house, Smokem if ya got em is gonna be getting alot of people at their house... the backstreet saloon used to have a section, if all the bars did that, they would have better odds..

Mr. Butterbur wrote on Dec 28, 2008 7:34 PM:

It's about time this law was passed. The Surgeon General's website states the "Smoking is the single greatest avoidable cause of disease and death." Therefore it's common sense to ban smoking. To those against this law, put that in your pipe and smoke it, but do it at home.

prop me up beside the juke box wrote on Dec 28, 2008 2:45 PM:

Cigarettes will kill but liquor is quicker!

Jim wrote on Dec 28, 2008 2:13 PM:

Nobody goes to a bar to get HEALTHY.....

Common Sense wrote on Dec 28, 2008 10:49 AM:

If only smokers could create only their bad health (along with wasting their $$$) without effectin other's health...this wouldn't be problem or a necessary law....

Bryce wrote on Dec 27, 2008 8:50 PM:

Ask Nevada bars what this has done to them... we voted for it, though.

Rebecca Anderson wrote on Dec 27, 2008 7:26 PM:

Having moved back here recently from Southern California where this type of law has been in effect for a while, I klnow it to be a good thing, it does take adjustment to those who are used to smoking with their drink in a bar, but to us who aren't it's a true blessing.

former resident wrote on Dec 27, 2008 7:16 PM:

just watch they will try to ban smoking in your own home next

Local wrote on Dec 27, 2008 6:52 PM:

I was wondering, will the Casinos be required to be smoke-free as well?

Smokem if ya got em wrote on Dec 27, 2008 6:49 PM:

No biggie to some of us smokers. I decided years ago that rather than go out and have a drink or beer, I chose to stay home and have that beer. Since my family doesn't smoke and I don't smoke in the house, I built myself a nice enclosed patio with beer tapper, comfy chairs, nice table to eat on "outdoors", woodstove when it gets cold, and a brick BBQ, for when I want to BBQ in the dead of winter (like now).
Not only do I save money by not going out and risking a drunk driving tickie, all my friends come over to -=MY=- bar and we can all smoke together

So much for asinine laws

George B. wrote on Dec 27, 2008 4:03 PM:

We're following right behind New York. Next thing to go will be fried food. Then salt will be outlawed. Come along little sheeple....your government knows what's best for you.

Mr E wrote on Dec 27, 2008 2:05 PM:

I am not necessarily a fan of this law (though I would rather frequent a non-smoking establishment as I don't smoke, and I did enjoy the bars in Corvallis because of that), but I think it goes too far when it requires that people be 10 feet or more away from a door.

I'm sorry, but you can smoke outside right next to a door, and blow smoke INTO the bar, and it would hardly be noticed by anyone. If your lungs are that bad that a tiny smoke particle will get you hacking and wheezing, you should probably just not enter a population center or be anywhere near a car... they have far, far more impact on your lungs.

Some people are way, way too afraid of second-hand smoke. They think that even a whiff will give them cancer... the nanny-state and the nannies are getting a bit absurd.

Ill be there wrote on Dec 27, 2008 1:44 PM:

The smoking law is finally near! WooT! I can smell like a woman instead of an ashtray. I can breathe a sigh of relief knowing the air will be cleaner.

Watts yur name wrote on Dec 27, 2008 1:35 PM:

Wow I haven't seen Jimmy Dude since forever. Beach Junction most Likely when I was a teenager. Have a good New Year's

Satsuma wrote on Dec 27, 2008 12:13 PM:

I can't wait! I hate going to the Mill, even just to walk through to the resteraunt. The smell of old smoke is disgusting.

Coos Bay Resident wrote on Dec 27, 2008 11:11 AM:

I Can not wait till there is no smoking in Bars. Im Not a smoker and I hate smelling like smoke when I come Home. That one thing why I do not go out on the weekends anymore.

Coos Bay Resident wrote on Dec 27, 2008 10:12 AM:

I think this new law will attract new customers to these bars. Like myself, I am a non-smoker but never went to bars but once or twice a year due to the fact of smoke. I think this will give bar owners a new set of customers to add to the smoking ones and in return, the owners may see an increase in profit. I think they should have had this law long ago.

Mikey wrote on Dec 27, 2008 9:20 AM:

Yippeee!! NO more smelling like an ashtray after a night out!


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