CB schools contemplate mid-year budget cuts

By Alexander Rich, Staff Writer
Thursday, December 04, 2008 | 45 comment(s)

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COOS BAY — The faltering economy is forcing Oregon schools to cut their budgets midstream this year. Local school officials say it’s only going to get worse next year.

Coos Bay schools expect to lose $400,000 in revenue this year, after Gov. Ted Kulongoski ordered across-the-board cuts of 1.2 percent last month.

Initial projections from the Oregon Department of Education suggest schools will get a 2.3 percent increase in general and lottery funds next year. Schools usually receive between 5 and 6 percent increases, if not more, said Rod Danielson, Coos Bay schools’ business manager. Coos Bay, however, may not even get a 2.3 percent increase because other schools are seeing their enrollments grow faster.

“The next biennium is going to be nasty,” he said Wednesday.

Danielson said the problem is the economy. As people lose jobs, the state gets fewer tax dollars, which means less for school districts.

Even before the governor’s announcement, the Coos Bay district had a very tight budget this year. Declining enrollment forced the district to leave positions vacant and exhaust almost all the money it had carried over from previous years, about $1 million. Danielson said the district has about $180,000 in its contingency fund, but otherwise, there isn’t much cushion left.

“With no carryover, that means for next year’s budget we would be $1 million in the hole because this budget used $1 million in carryover,” he said.

Superintendent Bob De La Vergne said the district hasn’t decided to make any cuts yet, though he has encouraged principals and managers to be frugal with discretionary funds. He also said he would limit his own travel.

“We are trying to stay away from impacts to the classrooms,” he said.

District officials will meet again Dec. 17 to discuss how to proceed the rest of the year. Danielson said it is hard to make any decisions at this point because questions remain about enrollment figures and district expenses, including electricity and fuel.

He noted the district may actually save money on gasoline, because it budgeted when the price was much higher.

 Other districts have proposed cutting school days and limiting sports team travel. De La Vergne noted that he taught some classes to help make the budget work at his previous job, though it was a smaller district with a smaller budget.

Whatever the district decides to do, it will need to be done knowing that funding will continue to be a problem for the foreseeable future, Danielson said.

“We need to save as much as we possibly can because we’ll need it,” he said.
Immediate cuts


What: Oregon Gov. Ted Kulongoski tells school districts they’ll get 1.2 percent less money from the state than they expected this year.


Impacts: South Coast districts are pondering how to cut spending. The World will have stories about effects on other school districts as they make that information available.
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Very Saddened wrote on Dec 26, 2008 5:36 PM:

I am very sad that the community has such bad feelings towards a school that many have children at. I am very certain that MHS staff cares about all of the students, and all activities are just as important to keep students in school. I think the community would be surprised at all the fabulous people that work there!

It was Read First wrote on Dec 11, 2008 12:26 PM:

To the person who commented on MHS suspended employee. You actually appear to not have read the article. The World does use the word "teacher" when they referred to driving the student to their house.

Other Schools wrote on Dec 11, 2008 10:42 AM:

Many of you keep talking only about MHS and its sports program. Do many of you realize that this would affect many more students at, lets say...BunkerHill, Blossum Gulch, Madison, Millicoma and Sunset.
I have a child who is in sports and we pay lots of money to do so. He also is a straight A student.
MHS does not just focus on sports. If you are in high school, you are old enough to take responsibility for your own education. I did when I was a MHS student and so did my brothers.

commonsense wrote on Dec 11, 2008 9:44 AM:

It is time for a paradym shift in the State of Oregon. Coos County could easily have only one school district. At the least CB/NB could have one district. The sports rivalry would continue just fine.

To READ it First wrote on Dec 11, 2008 7:39 AM:

If you are commenting on the story about the MHS employee on leave for trying to get Rx drugs from a student here is the sentence from the story..
"When the student said the drugs were at home, the teacher drove both of them there, only to be offered over-the-counter ibuprofen instead, police said in a press release."

Why don't YOU read it first!!

Read it first wrote on Dec 10, 2008 7:51 PM:

Does anybody (or some of the illiterates) ever read the article before posting? Do they read all the comments before spouting off?

Nowhere has it been said this was a teacher. It was said the employee tried to get prescription drugs from a student. How does that resolve to a teacher selling drugs to a student?

Read it all first, then comment.

mhs grad wrote on Dec 10, 2008 9:27 AM:

They will never join the school districts. How would we be able to survive without the town rivalries and the Civil War game betweeen the dogs and the pirates.

Hmmm. . . . wrote on Dec 9, 2008 7:41 PM:

Paid leave for a teacher who is under investigation for selling drugs to a student. Have problems with that, then contact the local teachers union which mandates PAID leave while staff are under investigation. In the rest of the world, you just get fired.

A YOUNG MOM wrote on Dec 9, 2008 5:25 PM:

This is to "GIVE ME A BREAK" do you have children in this school district? And if so do you help at their schools?
As a parent of child in this district,I would love to help at his school, But like most families in this town I have to work to have food, clothing, and a place to live.Cutting sports and zafterschool programs would only cause more trouble, and don't the kids have to pay to play?? Start from the top and work to the bottom.

COQUILLE PERSON wrote on Dec 9, 2008 5:04 PM:

Every district will have to cut back in the future, mainly due to declining enrollment, simple as that. Less kids, less dollars from the state budget. Coquille will be cutting some things this year, and for several years to come. Not as a result of overspending, our district has cut everywhere. 10 years ago we had 5 schools, and 5 principals + 2 vice principals. We now are down to three schools/principals, and only one vice principal. The #1 priority should be EDUCATION not sports. Cut one teacher, no one complains, but cut money for sports and EVERYONE is up in arms. The idea that someone has "already paid for their kids education" is idiotic. Someone else paid for theirs, and not just their parents.

Website Note wrote on Dec 9, 2008 3:48 PM:

For the person stating the budget is not on the new website...I found it without a problem. It is under the business office (gee, that makes sense). Also, under Superintendent you can find the board meeting notes (up to date by the way).

MHS allumni wrote on Dec 9, 2008 2:16 PM:

maybe you should not put your teachers on PAID LEAVE when they try to buy drugs from kids!
I will not ever support this school again!

past student wrote on Dec 9, 2008 11:39 AM:

If you take away the sports that will not save the budget.Every player pays a large sum to buy a gold card.
The high school is not the only school in this district. I lived through the hardship of not having busses to save money.
Is you cut some administration costs. it seems that every time a school closes the administration grows A county wide disrtict is a good idea. this district has a spending problem.

Concerned Parent wrote on Dec 8, 2008 8:24 PM:

Why would the Coos Bay schools (okay, Marshfield) need to cut sports. Didn't they just get a big wad of money from the Nike corporation? A lot of you should attend a school board meeting or two, then maybe you will understand what is going on. Until then, you should quit stirring the pot and keep your uneducated comments to yourselves.

to MHS Mom wrote on Dec 8, 2008 9:32 AM:

I wish you hadn't had such a bad experience at MHS. I used to be a good school with good teachers. Teachers like Mr. Sebesta, Mr. Kotsovos, Mr. Allen, Mr. Fewer and Mr. Mohr. These teachers either retired or got pushed out. They were fair, tough, and expected the kids to do their best. They always had time for kids and their parents. Say what you want about superintendants, but the place has gone downhill since Giles Parker left.

Hmmm. . . . wrote on Dec 8, 2008 8:47 AM:

The full budget is not on the NEW and IMPROVED district website.

In fact, the meeting notes from the past few months of board meetings are also NOT on the website.

What a Shame wrote on Dec 8, 2008 7:07 AM:

To Citizen;;;;I want to buy a new car so I will go around and ask my neighbors to donate money so I can have it. Makes NO sence does it. Why don't the schools just live within their budget like everyone else does and quit their whinning and complaining about not having any money.

Citizen wrote on Dec 7, 2008 11:23 PM:

What about corporate sponsorship of our sports programs? Why not ask Walmart to help out? Why not ask around. Perhaps there is somebody around that would like a gym named after them. All these big corporations that say they give back so much... Let's hit 'em up! Instead of flying company jets around maybe we could convince a CEO that a child playing football in his senior year might make a big difference in the world. Contrary to the belief of some, athletics and other extra ciricular activities help the child develop as much as or even more than what they learn in school.

Citizen wrote on Dec 7, 2008 11:16 PM:

Like I have been saying all along... We need family wage jobs in this area. We need industry to make a home here again and that will plant the seed which will sprout into a wonderful community where we do not have these concerns. It's time for all those with their own agendas to either put up or shut up! The timber, lumber, and fishing industries have all been gutted. I do not want my child to have to leave her home town to find a job that will allow her to live comfortably.

just look wrote on Dec 7, 2008 1:02 PM:

the yearly budget is on the district website.

High school mom wrote on Dec 7, 2008 11:24 AM:

RE:MHS MOM
I know whatcha mean! My son went to MHS his freshman year. I made the chose to pull him out for this year cause when I had called to talk to a teacher the first thing that came out of their mouths were what sports do they play? I was really distrub by this and when I told them no he doesnt play they couldnt talk to me..they just didnt have time. I am so glad with the chose I made by sending him to NBH. The teacher focus more on respondibilty such as getting to class on time ect.. and education. When they notice a child is having a hard time they keep the child after school. as a matter of fact there was one time when my child was there until 8 at night but came home happy that he finaly got his math...I will say Mr. Hill was the only teacher @ MHS who took the time out with my child even though he wasnt in sports.

Combine Districts wrote on Dec 7, 2008 11:08 AM:

Why doesn't Coos County form ONE school district and save the money on 4 Superintendents and some staff? That makes alot of sense to me.

LOL wrote on Dec 5, 2008 1:37 PM:

I had to laugh when HMMM said the district office might be grumpy...I have never been in contact with them when they WEREN'T grumpy. Perhaps the economy is not the only reason CB school enrollment is down...

Hmmm. . . . wrote on Dec 5, 2008 1:19 PM:

Athletics are a red herring. The athletic programs do not have a cost which would bridge the gap in the loss of revenue.

The the largest portion of the budget goes to staff salaries and benefits. Determine a way to better utilize and reduce staff. . .and then you solve the budget crunch.

The salaries of all school district employees is available to the public. Call the district office and ask to see the detailed budget for EACH of the past few years.

The district office may be grumpy, but they are required by law to provide the information.

You can also ask to see a break down of the cost of the athletics program.

What a Shame wrote on Dec 5, 2008 11:15 AM:

If the Coos Bay School District is having trouble trying to fix their budget, why don't you ask the North Bend School District for help. They don't seem like they are having any trouble.

What a Shame wrote on Dec 5, 2008 11:10 AM:

You know people, it seems to me that in the "modern world", it is more important for the student to be able to throw or catch a football, or dribble a basketball and make a basket than it is to be able to spell football, or basketball, etc. And whether or not a parent will admit it or not, they are the ones pushing the student to go out for sports. Some schools around here even had to lower their standard requirements for being eligable for sports and demanding that the student keep a certain grade or they would have to leave the team. That is really teaching them something, "When you cannot meet with, or keep up with a standard or rule, just change the rules so you can meet the standard". Simple solution huh, and THAT is a real shame for the public and expecially for the students and their futures.

Al the Pal wrote on Dec 5, 2008 10:38 AM:

To get informed:

What would kids in sports be doing if sports programs were cut back?

How about they concentrate on their home work and learing the course objectives? That will go far beyond preparing them for their lives than any sports program EVER would.

The purpose of education is to prepare the younger generation to exist on their own, earn a good living and contribute to society. Not become some overpaid, pampered prima donna who needs a red carpet laid out for him every time he graces the masses with his appearance.

I will gladly pay for their education, they can learn to play games on their own.

yeah right............ wrote on Dec 5, 2008 10:21 AM:

To: Good idea...
Books from the 1990's? With your kind of thinking, let's also take away any current world maps, computers, any kind of multi media, whiteboards and any kind of teaching aid other than a chalkboard and pointer. Ooooh, let's also take away all advanced math too. Last time I checked, it's almost 2009.......A.D.

Education First wrote on Dec 5, 2008 10:11 AM:

TO: Rebecca Anderson:
And just who are the 'people who don't belong here'? Who should we exile? The elderly who have already paid for their kids education? The renters becasue they can't afford to own a home and pay property taxes? The unemployed who have lost their jobs due to the economy?
Fishermen, loggers...... the working poor?
Who is 'not worthy' to live here? You?

Get Informed wrote on Dec 5, 2008 9:52 AM:

If Coos Bay is all about athletics, then why did they make their student-athlete academic policy more stringent than required by the OSAA? Why were there severe budget cuts to the athletic department last year? Why is the Athletic Director also the Dean of Students?

Extracurricular activities go far beyond sports. What do you think many of these young people would be doing if not for these after school activities?

The real problem here is that we have seven school districts, from Reedsport to Powers, for less than 30 schools. Portland manages over 150 schools in ONE district.

Hmmm. . . . wrote on Dec 5, 2008 8:08 AM:

And when has consolidation of the school districts been tried? Trying to jog my memory. . . .I can recall consolidation efforts for the cities. . .but not the schools. . .

Rebecca Anderson wrote on Dec 4, 2008 9:42 PM:

Hey, now we will get rid of all of those that don't belong here, now they will go back to where it is better than here!!!!

And, by the way, there is nothing wrong with having good atheletics!! We all need to know how to compete in the RIGHT Way!! Remember the Olympics!!?

Good Idea wrote on Dec 4, 2008 8:40 PM:

"no new textbooks - the kid's will just keep on using the 1994 edition they are using now..."

And the kids would be much better off, as the text books then didn't have nearly as much of the liberal b.s. Better yet, find some from 1986. They weren't nearly as watered down, and you actually learned things.

Resident wrote on Dec 4, 2008 6:38 PM:

How can you consolidate a district with one that doesn't want to consolidate?

GIVE ME A BREAK wrote on Dec 4, 2008 5:10 PM:

Consolidating of NB and CB School Districts has been tried and the past, but NB was not in favor of the idea. We can not afford to cut teachers from our schools, but how about recruiting volunteers. Instead of paid aids why don't some of the parents with children in the schools take on the teacher aid position and help the district cut the cost. After all they are your children and you want the best education possible for them so why not help?

Hmmm. . . . wrote on Dec 4, 2008 4:37 PM:

I also agree. CB school district does an excellent job of manipulating the voters. And then when it gets bad, it is like crying wolf.

A STUDENT FOCUS district would consolidate and eliminate the duplication of top paid and top level administrators. Reopen Milner Crest and serve the student of Coos Bay and North Bend in that neighborhood!

ULTIMATELY, YOU NEED AN ADVANCED BUSINESS DEGREE TO RUN THE FINANCING/OPERATIONS OF A SCHOOL DISTRICT!

I agree wrote on Dec 4, 2008 3:28 PM:

Well said, what a shame. You hit it right on the head.
CB is all about athletics, and falls short when it comes to truly putting education first. This is nothing more than a bluff and, as usual for CB, is all about money and spending it how they please.

What a Shame wrote on Dec 4, 2008 2:44 PM:

Schools use very strange thinking. For example: They are talking about cutting sports. Well by doing this, the parents along with the kids both get upset. What the schools do with budget cuts is the same things that Cities do to the taxpayer...If you don't pass my budget we will have to cut school programs and cut this and cut that. All the cuts they (the cities) talk about cutting during the process of trying to get a budget passed is cutting programs that they know that the taxpayer wants to keep. Then when the budget is passed, they spend the money whereever and on whatever they want. They are trying to hit exactly where it hurts, and all is nothing more than a scare tactic. In this case, instead of cutting sports, why don't they eliminate some of the vice-principals, or teachers aids, or things likd what I mentioned and put they rest of the people to work actually earning their high priced wages.

Real Money wrote on Dec 4, 2008 1:27 PM:

Cutting athletic programs is only a symbolic gesture to reducing the budget crisis the district faces... this is chump change in the overall scheme of things... the real money is going to come from cutting teachers - which means bigger classes and fewer classes, opportunites and challenges... then there is deferred maintenance and repair- if it is broken - it will stay broken... no new textbooks - the kid's will just keep on using the 1994 edition they are using now... and how about the closure days... go to the school board meeting and help determine what gets cut... there is no "if" about these cuts - they are a fact of life for the foreseeable future for our districts. Hey here's an idea - consolidate the NB & CB School districts to save money...

who knows wrote on Dec 4, 2008 11:58 AM:

When I was an employee of CBSD, I asked the same questions. I was told that the football and basketball teams are self-sustaining because of ticket sales, ands to mind my own business. Many other sports have become 'club sports', relying on the players 'paying to play' or by subsidies from the football and basketball programs.

Thats our best idea wrote on Dec 4, 2008 11:18 AM:

Do we want our kids to be part of the stats that show that with no PE, Music (and other extras) the autism and ADHD rates, crime and dropout rates skyrocket? Is there no other idea we can come up with at this juncture?

Broken System Wake up Call wrote on Dec 4, 2008 11:12 AM:

The cuts are inevitable when local property tax dollars are pooled at the state level and doled back to the local school districts based on student population... we have a very high unemployment rate which is causing families to leave the area at an increasing rate... the damage from the exodus of families from the district will only excentuate the decline of the areas school system. Rather than investing and building modern and updated schools that people want their kids to attend - we will have run down archaic facilities that will not draw people back into our area... the school systems are a fundamental building block of a healthy and thriving community - without them the area is in BIG trouble. It's too bad our local property taxes for schools can't be kept by the local school districts for them to determine exactly how and where the money should be spent... until the system is changed the districts that are considered to be the "have's" will continue to "have" and the "have not's" will continue to decline.

parent of an athlete wrote on Dec 4, 2008 10:45 AM:

You may be right about the percentages if you only take those two sports, but if you are going to cut sports then you have to do it all the way down... there are other ways to cut spendingl... should start at the top and then the school and activities should be the last thing to be cut... if you take how many kids there are in all the sports, some of these sports times by two because they have it for both girls and boys, football, basketball, volleyball, baseball, softball, wrestling, tennis, swimming, bowling, track... that is alot of students, why should they have to give up things that they work hard at, and most of these atheletes are good students... so dont start cutting things that the kids like to do,and keeps the kids active, start cutting at the the top and work your way down to the schools and activities..

MHS MOM wrote on Dec 4, 2008 10:44 AM:

I think that MHS has the wrong idea when comes to academics. They are supporting athletics more than education. They changed daily schedule to accomodate their athletes. I bet that not ONE athlete has been in trouble for anything even tho they have done something that should have been disciplined. I know several football/basketball players that smoke marijuana and have never been trouble for that. WHAT GIVES? MHS is not about education, it;s all about their athletes and the athletic department.

Drop all non academic activities wrote on Dec 4, 2008 10:19 AM:

How many kids at the High School? How many actually play football/basketball? What percentage of the budget goes to football/basketball?

Are we spending a substantial portion of the budget for a small percentage of the students in a non academic activity?


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