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youth wrote on Mar 11, 2009 4:24 PM:
Ariel Sharp is the victim and she is the sweetest girl and is nnot making this up so u dont even know
First Stone wrote on Dec 21, 2008 10:12 PM:
What sins do you have Nicole Ann??? Who knows... You could illegal be a prostitute, maybe you've told a lie.......Maybe not. A sin is a sin(there is non of this human concept of big bad and little bad), but it's not for me to judge. Maybe you should stop judging too...
Nicole Ann wrote on Dec 17, 2008 11:02 PM:
Youth Pastor or not, what happened was wrong wrong wrong! It doesnt matter who he is, or where he came from. I do not feel sorry for him. He broke the LAW and he knew it so he should pay the price. I do not know about the consent in this case, but it really doesnt matter. Why would a 22 year old want to have sex with a minor anyway? How stupid is he? Dating the girl is one thing, provided that she is no younger than 17, younger than that it just seems very wrong and perverted, but to have sex with her is stupid as he should know that as the adult in the relationship he would bethe one paying the price if they were caught and here he is. Sucks to be him.
Randy Engen wrote on Dec 13, 2008 4:26 PM:
Dear sister of accused, I am really sorry for what you and your family are going through. I got to know your brother playing music together on the worship team at church and I just want you to know that we do love him and are praying for him. I did try to reach Damon on the phone. I spoke with your Mother, who seemed like a very charming lady and loving mom. Damon never returned my call for whatever reason, but I just wanted to let him know that I was available for him and he didn't have to go through this alone. I don't think that our church is judging Damon, or "writing him off". He obviously can't attend our church at this time for legal reasons, but he is in our prayers and we are saddened by the whole unfortunate situation. God is in control.
Sister of Accused wrote on Dec 11, 2008 8:16 AM:
I have a few questions if someone could answer. Is this girl getting help dealing with all this? Second, how can the church be so easy to come down on Damon. We wanted him home when he was discharged but your church had taken him in and made him feel like he was one of you. Now because you are worried about how this will look for the church you treat him like he is a creature. He has fallen, arent you suppose to be there picking him up instead of knocking him down.The youth pastor did make him feel like he held a position. I feel sorry for this young girl and I feel sorry for my brother. Both are victims. What is missing here is accountablity. Damon is to be accountable for his actions. This young lady should be accountable for her part. My understanding is that it was consensual behavior. No one was manipulated or abused. If someone knows more facts please let me know. I am not passing judgement on either party. I just want facts not trash media wants to print.
North Bend Guy wrote on Dec 7, 2008 11:22 PM:
For too long people have been willing to assume that affiliation with a church of any kind means that some people can do no wrong. Churchs are human institutions and they become corrupt just like secular institutions. We always need to use our heads and require accountability from all of our public institutions.
CMillican wrote on Dec 7, 2008 8:25 PM:
Sin exists in our lives. Wether you want to believe it or not. Those of the community that are asking "why would the church let this happen", should first ask themselves why they let this happen as well. God is OBVIOUSLY teaching us a lesson, and the only thing we can do as a community is try to listen.
JH wrote on Dec 7, 2008 9:24 AM:
To ONEOFTHOSEPEOPLE
"God was in the same place. He was watching these people make their own decision as he allows us to do freely."
Sounds like "God" should be in jail too then for watching such a thing!!!!!
"God was in the same place. He was watching these people make their own decision as he allows us to do freely."
Sounds like "God" should be in jail too then for watching such a thing!!!!!
TO sheepdog wrote on Dec 7, 2008 5:42 AM:
Just because they are more likely doesn't mean they all do it..paranoid much? so just because someone was a victim they should never be allowed to work with youth because they are more likely to abuse..get real..a lot of victims rise above and want to help.
Oh Randy E wrote on Dec 6, 2008 4:43 PM:
I promise you we have not taken our eye off the accused for one moment. But recognizing and acknowledging responsibility in this situation may help prevent further issues.
ripples wrote on Dec 6, 2008 3:25 PM:
The reason this is gaining popularity is that is what happens in Cali. Without the Cali's: no sex crimes.
Completely Ridiculous wrote on Dec 6, 2008 1:08 PM:
This kind of situation could have happened ANYWHERE! Many of you say how unfit our churches are and how common these "perverted" actions take place. When's the last time you went to high school?...(or ANY public school) I know for me it wasn't that many years ago. I also know that it is a breeding ground for underage/perverted actions.
If you think about the age gap referenced in a previous comment (nearly 18 and 22) and age differences between a freshman and senior and high school...it's pretty similar. When I was in school there were over a handful of relationships that were between freshmen and seniors. You definately didn't see those in the news though.
Try to stop making such a big deal out of something you don't know the details of. It's completely ridiculous.
Also...maybe that "little girl" wasn't completely innocent. I mean come on!
You just really don't know the situation by reading this extremely vague (and apparently incorrect) article and should stop judging until you do your own research to evaluate the situation yourself.
If you think about the age gap referenced in a previous comment (nearly 18 and 22) and age differences between a freshman and senior and high school...it's pretty similar. When I was in school there were over a handful of relationships that were between freshmen and seniors. You definately didn't see those in the news though.
Try to stop making such a big deal out of something you don't know the details of. It's completely ridiculous.
Also...maybe that "little girl" wasn't completely innocent. I mean come on!
You just really don't know the situation by reading this extremely vague (and apparently incorrect) article and should stop judging until you do your own research to evaluate the situation yourself.
Randy E wrote on Dec 5, 2008 2:11 PM:
Why do people want to take the focus off of the accused and blame the church? This "armchair Christian bashing" is becoming quite a popular sport!
Randy wrote on Dec 5, 2008 2:07 PM:
If this man met the girl at the library and he abused her at the park, would you blame the librarian? A pastor of a church cannot control what anyone does off of the church property. Our church is filled with good, loving, responsible people. We did not advertise for anyone to come in and pose as an upstanding member of our congregation and decieve everyone. Damon had only been attending for a couple of months and was never given any kind of a position in leadership at our church. But now, because he obviously thought it would help to lie to the police and say he was an "assistant youth pastor", our pastor, church, and congregation is being bashed by alot of misinformed people. Let the blame be put on the offender and stop this melodramatic witch hunt!
wrote on Dec 4, 2008 9:36 PM:
Young people screwing and lives being ruined...
Nothing has changed in Coos Bay and probably never will.
GET OUT OF THE STONE AGE ALREADY COOS COUNTY, THE WORLD IS WAITING FOR YOU...
Nothing has changed in Coos Bay and probably never will.
GET OUT OF THE STONE AGE ALREADY COOS COUNTY, THE WORLD IS WAITING FOR YOU...
A Youth from the church wrote on Dec 4, 2008 5:34 PM:
I can not believe half the things I'm hearing from you people......I am a youth in that same youth group and was friends with both Noel and the victim.....Some of you talk like you know the story so well just from reading a couple articles in the paper.....This story wouldn't be even half as popular with the media if it didn't have to do with the church....If you all really care about the victim then maybe you should stop blowing this out of proportion because the law is more than capable of handling this without rumors(half of which aren't true) getting spread around everywhere.....Don't you think this girls been through enough without having to hear people talk about it non-stop....Also how can any of you feel you have the right to bash on the Pastor (Damon had no background other than getting kicked out of the Coast Guard) Don't you think the Pastor has feelings It disgusts me that you all can be so vindictive towards him...I'll be praying for him, his family, the youth group, and the entire church for that matter....maybe you should do the same.
COME ON wrote on Dec 4, 2008 4:03 PM:
just because it happens all the time does not mean it is okay. I can't believe you would suggest condoning this behavior.
OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE wrote on Dec 4, 2008 3:19 PM:
THIS IS NOT A NEW ISSUE THAT PLAGUES OUR COMMUNITY. THERE ARE MANY MANY CASES EVERY DAY IN WHICH ADULT AND PRE-TEENS HAVE CONSENSUAL INTERCOURSE; NOT ONLY IN THE YOUTH GROUP ORGANIZATIONS. WHY IS IT SO ASTOUNDING THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED IN THE CHURCH??? THESE ARE REAL PEOPLE IN REAL SITUATIONS THAT OCCUR IN EVERY DAY LIFE. WHO IS TO SAY THAT THIS 15 YEAR OLD GIRL WAS TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF? MAYBE THEY HAD A RELATIONSHIP, SHE GOT MAD AND SET THIS GUY UP? I JUST FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS TOP HEADLINE NEWS WHEN IT HAPPENS ALL OF THE TIME.
Sheep Dog wrote on Dec 4, 2008 3:08 PM:
About "Youth Worker" who said he had been a youth worker for 10 years, and had also once been a victim...
People who have been abused as children are 10 times more likely to abuse children when they become an adult.
How many times have you heard that the perpetrator of child abuse was abused themselves. Check the statistics, they are alarming.
Whoever is allowing "Youth Worker" to "work" with youth had better check him out, quick. 10 years, a lot of damage he could have done.
Should have kept quiet, "Youth Worker", you draw attention to yourself and now you have set off red flags all over the place.
People who have been abused as children are 10 times more likely to abuse children when they become an adult.
How many times have you heard that the perpetrator of child abuse was abused themselves. Check the statistics, they are alarming.
Whoever is allowing "Youth Worker" to "work" with youth had better check him out, quick. 10 years, a lot of damage he could have done.
Should have kept quiet, "Youth Worker", you draw attention to yourself and now you have set off red flags all over the place.
Editor wrote on Dec 4, 2008 2:27 PM:
For more detailed information, see the follow-up story:
http://www.theworldlink.com/articles/2008/12/02/news/doc493577e6605e0001100193.txt
http://www.theworldlink.com/articles/2008/12/02/news/doc493577e6605e0001100193.txt
Advocate wrote on Dec 4, 2008 12:30 PM:
"CB/NB Residents" I too am highly concerned that the efforts I have made in terms of educating the community on the topic of sex offenders, as well as encouraging our youth that it is ok to tell, has taken a dramatic step backwards as a result of the negative responses, and lack of trust on behalf of the victims. There have been numerous sex offenses in our community, not just this one, and the numbers continue to grow. As a community we need to come tegether to protect our children with a no tolerance, and not in our community frame of mind. Let the kids be kids. Adults it's time to get educated on how we can keep them safe.
To the writer of wrote on Dec 4, 2008 9:39 AM:
Dear writer of "Wolf in Sheep's Clothes"
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for calling my daughter a hero. I am keeping her away from these posts, but her dad and I are reading them, and you have given me hope that someone cares about her. The truth will come out as the justice system progresses and then all interested parties can know what is fact. I assure everyone that most of you don't know right now.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for calling my daughter a hero. I am keeping her away from these posts, but her dad and I are reading them, and you have given me hope that someone cares about her. The truth will come out as the justice system progresses and then all interested parties can know what is fact. I assure everyone that most of you don't know right now.
Concerned CB resident wrote on Dec 4, 2008 9:32 AM:
I agree NB resident! My concern is should there be other victims PRIOR to this 15 yr old, would they even want to disclose in this type of environment that seems to have emerged from all the "blame the victim" assumptions and flat out misinformationa, not to mention the transparent trying to run from liability?
disbeliever wrote on Dec 4, 2008 7:11 AM:
My daughter used to go to this youth group. I stopped letting her go because the kids were allowed to run wild. They are NOT watched all the time. When I would pick her up after the group they would be running all around the parking lot and yelling. One of the 'assistants' then was a young woman who hurt my daughter's back in a 'playful' tackle. The youth pastor was the worst. He was constantly harping on how the devil is trying to get at them through Disney and other innocuous entertainment- note the posts here from kids about the devil engineering this story.
snickers wrote on Dec 3, 2008 10:58 PM:
Don't judge me Connie. Girls these days? Girls these days are just as bad as they always had been. Society, in general, is willing to discuss such issues which, in turn, brings to light that which we would not have known in years past. The most common age for a girl to lose her virginity is 12. The most common for a guy is 15. Your kids are out there doing it and talking about it. Have a talk with your kids and give them some morals instead of letting them wander where they wish.
Concerned NB Resident wrote on Dec 3, 2008 6:30 PM:
It concerns me that someone can be released on thier own promise to return back to court especially after having committed sex crimes such as what he was arrested for.
It seems that this guy might be a threat to our community. I pray that this young man does not have any victims, especially after he was released.
And to Connie, you must watch too much C.S.I. I think that only in the best case scenarios will D.N.A. evidence still exist. As for spermatosis, as you were probably referring to, this usually only lasts for 3 to 4 days after the act.
It seems that this guy might be a threat to our community. I pray that this young man does not have any victims, especially after he was released.
And to Connie, you must watch too much C.S.I. I think that only in the best case scenarios will D.N.A. evidence still exist. As for spermatosis, as you were probably referring to, this usually only lasts for 3 to 4 days after the act.
a wolf in sheeps clothing wrote on Dec 3, 2008 6:00 PM:
I personally kept my teenage child from returning to services at this same church after we discovered that she had been alone in a room with an adult male. At that time, we got a "ho hum" response from church leaders. We had explained very clearly that she was welcome to explore her faith there, but was never to be alone with a man under any circumstances.
If there was an official church policy in place last summer, it's only getting lip service now.
LaMar may be surprised, but I wish I were.
What DOES surprise me is the victim. While our daughter attended at College Park, this bright young girl went out of her way to make sure our daughter had an escort whenever she could. She even stood up to an adult who asked her to leave our daughter's side. What a hero! I wish there had been someone to stand up for her with the strength she stood up for my daughter.
It's a complicated world, and we all unfortunately have to ask ourselves "who do we trust."
I trust the girl. You can, too.
If there was an official church policy in place last summer, it's only getting lip service now.
LaMar may be surprised, but I wish I were.
What DOES surprise me is the victim. While our daughter attended at College Park, this bright young girl went out of her way to make sure our daughter had an escort whenever she could. She even stood up to an adult who asked her to leave our daughter's side. What a hero! I wish there had been someone to stand up for her with the strength she stood up for my daughter.
It's a complicated world, and we all unfortunately have to ask ourselves "who do we trust."
I trust the girl. You can, too.
a wolf in sheeps clothing wrote on Dec 3, 2008 5:57 PM:
Hmmm... Sounds to me like LaMar is doing a pretty thorough job of covering his church's liabilities.
That's funny. I thought the job of a pastor was to protect his flock, not his own --- (donkey).
That's funny. I thought the job of a pastor was to protect his flock, not his own --- (donkey).
Randy E wrote on Dec 3, 2008 3:23 PM:
Listen carefully, He is not, and never has been a "youth pastor" or held any kind of position in our church. This is a very bad thing for all parties involved. Let the court decide the outcome and quit the silly, imature, "pastoral witch hunt!!!"
Youth Worker wrote on Dec 3, 2008 2:58 PM:
I have been a youth worker for over 10 years. It sickens me when the kids we are trying to help get taken advantage of by individuals such as this man. I have also been on the other end as a victim.
These kids look to us for guidance. We are to be held to a higher standard than a Taco Bell worker.
These kids look to us for guidance. We are to be held to a higher standard than a Taco Bell worker.
To Hope wrote on Dec 3, 2008 11:43 AM:
The way girls are 'these days'....do you know history? Girls used to be married off at 13 to older men. Now we say it is illegal....but that is the way it used to be. To also say "girls" that is just stupid. Girls and boys both are sexually active, not just girls these days.
willlllooooow wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:58 AM:
Dang,look at all the rants.This stuff happens all the time.People should be just as outraged if a taco bell employee did this.
CONNIE wrote on Dec 3, 2008 12:48 AM:
for anyone of you to judge what happened. and for those of you, who don't read the bible, it states Matthew 7:1-5 "Do not judge so that you will not be judged. ... Romans 2:1-4 Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment,
CONNIE wrote on Dec 3, 2008 12:47 AM:
i do not know either party, but myself, being 38, was a teen once, as well as all of you. i grew up in a church, been to many church functions. met alot of "older" men in my church in my teen years. alot of the times, we would do things.go to the beach, bowling, park.doesn't mean anything happened. just because he met her at a park, does not necessarily mean those acts happened. nowhere once in the article did it mention her going to the hospital to get checked, in order for the law to stick, she HAS to go to the hospital and be tested to see if she had sex, if she had, they would do a dna test to prove it was him. you can not just charge someone for those such crimes, because he said she said, it has to be proven. i don't see anywhere where that has been done. innocent until proven guilty, just because he was charged, doesn't mean he was guilty, there are NO facts in this article whatsoever,
to butterfinger wrote on Dec 2, 2008 8:42 PM:
You're obviously uninformed, do you get all your info from the paper alone? Noel went to court yesterday, and again today. Today the court released from the jail on his own promise that he would return to court as scheduled. Maybe you should pay a little more attention to other things so you know. If you don't beleive me that he is free for now, call the jail and ask, like i did!
Concerned NB Resident wrote on Dec 2, 2008 6:12 PM:
I will be praying for the victim, and her family, for strength, courage, and wisdom as this case moves forward. It is sad that the people we least expect, and should be able to trust, are the ones usually to commit crimes such as this.
It may have been this young mans skills of "grooming" that he got the people around him to trust and like him. In so many of these type of cases, this is the "norm" and we need to be aware of it.
Great job N.B.P.D. with getting another criminal off of our streets. May he have a fair trial and be held accountable for his actions.
It may have been this young mans skills of "grooming" that he got the people around him to trust and like him. In so many of these type of cases, this is the "norm" and we need to be aware of it.
Great job N.B.P.D. with getting another criminal off of our streets. May he have a fair trial and be held accountable for his actions.
What a Shame wrote on Dec 2, 2008 1:54 PM:
I sent in a comment and mispelled Mr. Noel's name and I did want to correct myself. Everyone should know EXACTLY who this guy is.
What a Shame wrote on Dec 2, 2008 1:50 PM:
The bottom line is that MR. Noes is off the street and cannot harm any more of the little people. And to all of you that are trying to feel sorry for Noel, what if it was your daughter....hits home huh. Anyone that would feel sorry for a pervert like Noel is no better than he is.
read the register guard wrote on Dec 2, 2008 1:13 PM:
now i know why i subscribe to the register guard and not our local paper
everyman wrote on Dec 2, 2008 1:12 PM:
"Play it Safe" by Jack Crabtree...excellent book dealing with issues like this very one, as well as practical things like insurance matters and release forms...just an fyi to those who want to prevent this happening to thier child/group/pastor.
Fact wrote on Dec 2, 2008 11:19 AM:
I do not know anything regarding his involvment in the church.
I will only speak about the things that I know as fact.
I will only speak about the things that I know as fact.
Fact wrote on Dec 2, 2008 10:42 AM:
FACT is very adament at pointing out that this guy is not in the coast guard anymore. Why isn't fact just as adament to point out that he didn't work for the church? I suppose then it wouldn't be a juicy enough story. All hail the american media, mediocracy at it's most inept.
Say What... wrote on Dec 2, 2008 10:26 AM:
To Some chick, I don't think it will help your friends case by saying he had a relationship with an immature girl.. I mean, hello, that is why it is illegal.
Its time to fix this story wrote on Dec 2, 2008 9:56 AM:
According to "The Church Pastor" post:
The incident isn't more than a man arrested on charges alleging he had attempted to meet a minor, at about 2:15 p.m. Friday. They arrested Damon J. Noel, 22, on charges of third-degree rape, contributing to the sexual delinquency of a minor, third-degree sex abuse, endangering the welfare of a minor and sexual misconduct.
These kinds of incidences normally only get a few comments, so it is time that this story gets rewritten. This story is blown so out of wack it has ended up going national.
The incident isn't more than a man arrested on charges alleging he had attempted to meet a minor, at about 2:15 p.m. Friday. They arrested Damon J. Noel, 22, on charges of third-degree rape, contributing to the sexual delinquency of a minor, third-degree sex abuse, endangering the welfare of a minor and sexual misconduct.
These kinds of incidences normally only get a few comments, so it is time that this story gets rewritten. This story is blown so out of wack it has ended up going national.
response to tobutterfinger wrote on Dec 2, 2008 9:26 AM:
Exactly where in this article did it state that the young girl in charge was forced into this? A funny thing happens when you actually READ the article. It never says it was a non consentual act. Maybe it was, I don't know. Mr. Rich apparently doesn't feel that facts are needed before "reporting" a story, as the many comments have pointed out, this guy didn't even work for a church, he was in the Coast Guard. Do you people ever tire of looking like imbacils?
Fact wrote on Dec 2, 2008 9:24 AM:
Once again, He is NOT in the Coast Guard! He was discharged for criminal activities.
A voice of reason wrote on Dec 2, 2008 8:37 AM:
All of this nastyness has compelled me to comment. I attend this church, I know the young man in question, and the young lady. First, this young man is not and never has been employed by any church. He is , in fact, in the Coast Guard, stationed at North Bend. So that means all of you can now stp harping on the church. He is not a "youth leader". He is a young man who has attended and helped with the youth. Before you jump up and down and claim that no policies are in place to protect youth, there is. Obviously, a young man, with no criminal history, in the military, is going to check out fine. Please, THINK before you respond to stories like this. Make yourself look intellegent, not the other way around.
Fact wrote on Dec 2, 2008 8:32 AM:
He WAS in the Coast Guard, but was discharged several weeks prior to this incident for misconnduct.
tobutterfinger wrote on Dec 2, 2008 7:26 AM:
Fact is he is 22 and she is 15/16, it was not her desire and he should be a sex offender. FOREVER. If you turn your cheek to these types of activities then it happens more often. That is why laws are in place, to caese undesirable and immoral activities.
Death Penalty wrote on Dec 2, 2008 5:53 AM:
Molesters and rapists, like this pastor, should be belt whipped for 24 hours then sentenced to a lopping off.
MrButterbur wrote on Dec 2, 2008 2:15 AM:
Oh Brother.
This is blown way out of proportion. Why are so many of you ready to tag some kid for live as a "sex offender" and the girl as a "victim"? YOU are creating the problem and probably, the material for some daytime talkshow to offend your tender sensibilities even futher. Turn off the TV. Think for yourselves.
This is blown way out of proportion. Why are so many of you ready to tag some kid for live as a "sex offender" and the girl as a "victim"? YOU are creating the problem and probably, the material for some daytime talkshow to offend your tender sensibilities even futher. Turn off the TV. Think for yourselves.
The Church Pastor wrote on Dec 2, 2008 2:11 AM:
Part 3—
Nevertheless, because we are always concerned about the safety and integrity of our church and youth, we are reevaluating all of our policies, and will make any changes we can to strengthen the ministry and security of our programs.
We are greatly saddened by this crime and all the negative church-talk it has inspired. It is a shame that there is not less energy spent critiquing the various parties involved, and more energy spent encouraging those who have been hurt through this tragic set of events.
We are focusing our efforts now, not on defending our ministry, which continues to serve our community well, but on sharing love and support to the young girl and her family, on ministering to the youth and adults of our church who have been devastated by the loss of a good friend through his bad decisions, and on reminding the church that it is only through grace that any of us are saved.
I hope many of you will consider praying for those directly affected by this heartbreaking situation, and that those who must make legal decisions would be filled with wisdom.
Nevertheless, because we are always concerned about the safety and integrity of our church and youth, we are reevaluating all of our policies, and will make any changes we can to strengthen the ministry and security of our programs.
We are greatly saddened by this crime and all the negative church-talk it has inspired. It is a shame that there is not less energy spent critiquing the various parties involved, and more energy spent encouraging those who have been hurt through this tragic set of events.
We are focusing our efforts now, not on defending our ministry, which continues to serve our community well, but on sharing love and support to the young girl and her family, on ministering to the youth and adults of our church who have been devastated by the loss of a good friend through his bad decisions, and on reminding the church that it is only through grace that any of us are saved.
I hope many of you will consider praying for those directly affected by this heartbreaking situation, and that those who must make legal decisions would be filled with wisdom.
The Church Pastor wrote on Dec 2, 2008 2:09 AM:
Part 2—
We do have well-trained, mature, responsible leaders, with no evidence of past criminal behavior, who have been graciously serving our church and community for many years. Each week they spend hours planning and preparing so that our youth can learn important lessons about handling life’s struggles, making better decisions, self-worth, the importance of good friends, and serving others better. Our youth leaders do this solely out of their love for youth—and they do it without any pay at all.
Also, none of the activities for which he was arrested happened at the church or at a church function. In fact nothing immoral, illegal, unethical, or inappropriate took place between these two while in our care. Neither the church nor our leaders are involved in any way with the police investigation.
One of the reasons for this is because, like many other churches, we have policies in place to protect kids and leaders at church. One of these policies is that no leader or helper will ever be alone with a child. We have been faithfully following these policies for years to avoid any crime or accusation.
We do have well-trained, mature, responsible leaders, with no evidence of past criminal behavior, who have been graciously serving our church and community for many years. Each week they spend hours planning and preparing so that our youth can learn important lessons about handling life’s struggles, making better decisions, self-worth, the importance of good friends, and serving others better. Our youth leaders do this solely out of their love for youth—and they do it without any pay at all.
Also, none of the activities for which he was arrested happened at the church or at a church function. In fact nothing immoral, illegal, unethical, or inappropriate took place between these two while in our care. Neither the church nor our leaders are involved in any way with the police investigation.
One of the reasons for this is because, like many other churches, we have policies in place to protect kids and leaders at church. One of these policies is that no leader or helper will ever be alone with a child. We have been faithfully following these policies for years to avoid any crime or accusation.
The Church Pastor wrote on Dec 2, 2008 2:08 AM:
Part 1—
I am the Pastor of the church mentioned in this article. Though The World is printing a follow-up article on Tuesday that I hope will help clarify some of the concerns, I will post this set of comments in advance.
In the news articles Damon was referred to as a “youth pastor” and “assistant youth pastor.” This is not the least bit accurate. Damon has never been considered a pastor in our church—nor has that relationship ever been discussed among any of our church leaders. Damon’s role regarding our youth program has been extremely limited. Never has he had any direct supervision of any of the youth or been alone with any of them at a youth function. Never has he been authorized even to transport them. He has simply been one of several fairly regular adult helpers, coming to assist with such aspects as crowd management, or support when youth are overly active or talkative.
After talking with the reporter and officer, I believe this was incorrectly reported due to mischaracterizations and assumptions from statements given by Damon and others that he “helped lead the youth.”
I am the Pastor of the church mentioned in this article. Though The World is printing a follow-up article on Tuesday that I hope will help clarify some of the concerns, I will post this set of comments in advance.
In the news articles Damon was referred to as a “youth pastor” and “assistant youth pastor.” This is not the least bit accurate. Damon has never been considered a pastor in our church—nor has that relationship ever been discussed among any of our church leaders. Damon’s role regarding our youth program has been extremely limited. Never has he had any direct supervision of any of the youth or been alone with any of them at a youth function. Never has he been authorized even to transport them. He has simply been one of several fairly regular adult helpers, coming to assist with such aspects as crowd management, or support when youth are overly active or talkative.
After talking with the reporter and officer, I believe this was incorrectly reported due to mischaracterizations and assumptions from statements given by Damon and others that he “helped lead the youth.”
seen it happen before wrote on Dec 1, 2008 10:20 PM:
I have found most of these cases to be a mutual thing between both parties. Some of these kids are allowed to dress to look much older and they lie about their age. In some cases one gets caught by the parents and yells "rape" to avoid punishment and shame. As far as the victim? If she is a victim, then he should be punished. I've seen lives ruined over a crush or obsession which is a shame for the real victims. Articles like this shouldn't be published until a Judge and Jury decides the verdict as it may very well ruin this young mans life. If he is found guilty, then publish the article, and shame on him.
seen it happen before wrote on Dec 1, 2008 10:14 PM:
After reading the article, I have found most of these cases to be a mutual thing between both parties. Some of these kids are allowed to dress to look much older and they lie about their age. In some cases one gets caught by the parents and yells "rape" to avoid punishment and shame. As far as the victim? If she is a victim, then he should be punished. I've seen lives ruined over a crush or obsession which is a shame for the real victims. Articles like this shouldn't be published until a Judge and Jury decided the verdict as it may very well ruin this young mans life. If he is found guilty, then publish the article, and shame on him.
somechick wrote on Dec 1, 2008 7:18 PM:
i doubt this is the full story i dont think anyone should judge him my husband worked with him and doesn't see Damon doing this i think there is more to this story and i bet the girl is to blame for this cause she's immature
annomyous wrote on Dec 1, 2008 7:16 PM:
ok people do any of you really know this guy.i think people should do your research first turns out he was part of the coast guard i highly doubt things happened the way things are said
just another kid on the block wrote on Dec 1, 2008 6:25 PM:
As a friend of the parties involved i would like to say that i am here for you all the time. The 16 year old was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. We ALL make bad judgement calls and we all need a break sometimes. I just wish and pray that this will all soon pass and we can get along with our lives as if this never happen.i will pray for both of you every night. i love you guys.
to concerned grandma wrote on Dec 1, 2008 6:20 PM:
this young man was NOT employed by the church he was simply asked to come help because it was thought that he would be a great deal of influence on the children. And it was felt that he could help them.as a member of this church i will say that he was NEVER EVER alone with the youth. Every one was watched for protection.
Prayer does help wrote on Dec 1, 2008 5:02 PM:
It really doesn't matter whether this man has a "title" at the church or not. He was there, he did an unspeakable thing, and now a life is changed forever. I pray this is not her defining moment, but a shaping moment she can survive.
surviving victim wrote on Dec 1, 2008 4:57 PM:
To the lady friend of Damon... you have a very poor judge of character thats one thing for sure. As a teen child who has gone through similar things pedophiles are some of the nicest people that you will ever meet. Thats how they gain trust. It is extremely hard to tell who a person is behind closed doors. I have been through a lot of things that deal with this kind of thing. At the age of 5,up until I was put into foster care, and even then I was sexually abused. So when you sit there and say things like that, please just save your breath, you don't have a clue!!! Victims don't disclose so they can have fun going through the dirt like this.
Part of youth group wrote on Dec 1, 2008 4:48 PM:
To most of you out there who think that you know what the details are... you are WRONG!!!! she was under age and he was the adult. They are more than 7 years apart. He's supposed to be the Christian adult!! He as the adult choose his fate and in doing so he got in trouble, as he should have!!! For those of you out there who think that he couldn't or wouldn't do such a thing; guess what, you don't have the ugly facts. When you do, you will be able to make a fair judgement. Don't believe me, go to court and sit through a trial and see for your self!!!
A Mom wrote on Dec 1, 2008 4:35 PM:
You know what people this is sad any way you look at it. If its true its sad, if its not its sad. This type of thing happens everywhere not just churches even schools.
Cora wrote on Dec 1, 2008 4:28 PM:
To what a shame - I hope you are not the X-Coquille Police Officer trying to give advice. Sorry, just had to throw that in:)
A Mom wrote on Dec 1, 2008 3:58 PM:
Advocate you are so right. If she is telling the truth then she will be blamed and pretty much ostracized (bad at spelling I admit it) from the church and treated like dirt. So sad.
Advocate wrote on Dec 1, 2008 3:35 PM:
It is sad that there isn't one post in this discussion that accknowledges the feelings of the victim or her family...regardless of what people think is true or false. My prayers go out to the victim and her family through this difficult time.
What a Shame wrote on Dec 1, 2008 3:20 PM:
TO OBVIOUS;;;; Don't be so hard on just "men" doing the sexual abuse thing. As a X police officier, I can assure you and all that all of the sexual abuse cases are not just men doing the abusing, but, yes, also the female gender also are arrested and convicted for the same thing. So please get of the "MEN" thing and get aquainted with the real world.
Linda wrote on Dec 1, 2008 2:34 PM:
To what a shame. Did I say anything about your spelling? I have a life and it would take way more than your babble to blow my mind:) Please don't flatter yourself.
What a Shame wrote on Dec 1, 2008 1:55 PM:
TO LINDA...........I did spell the word pastor wrong on purpose. I was hoping that people would read between the line and catch on to putting the old mule out to pasture. Most of these pastors are at the opposite end of the head on the muele. Sorry I blew your mind, but OH WELL...get a life Linda
The Obvious wrote on Dec 1, 2008 1:03 PM:
It appears to be obvious. Lets break it down. Youth pastor, likely to work with youth 18 and younger! Lying about age at vacation bible school?? Hmmm? Don't believe it for a second. He is a youth pastor working with kids. He is old enough to control his disgusting thoughts. I'm surprised with how things are going with pastors and kids, it wasent a little boy he assulted. That man should be thrown in state where he meets Bubba who prays on him. This disgusts me and men need to control their sexual disires. Shame on you!!!!
Cora wrote on Dec 1, 2008 12:30 PM:
We do have a lot of religious hipocrites. Do what you want and then ask for forgiveness. That's why I don't go to church, I think I'm better off just taking my chances.
Linda wrote on Dec 1, 2008 12:28 PM:
To what a shame. Boy you just sent us down the "Pasture" now didn't ya.
as a parent wrote on Dec 1, 2008 11:43 AM:
Ok you guys!! This young lady most likely lied about her age, most likely got caught so the first thing she said was he raped me...I see and here it all the time...Let take my friend she is allowing here just turned 15 yr old to shack up with a 20 year where the hell is child welfare, and its all because she doesnt want to deal with typical teenage things..
What a Shame wrote on Dec 1, 2008 11:21 AM:
To all of you so call church gooers. It does reall hurt when the truth does come out doesn't it. You people should practice what you preach not meet after service down at the local pub. I don't expect this to be allowed but I really do one pasture in town, which is my neighbor, that does drink heavely, yell at his wife and kids all the time, and yes does go to the local pub after his service. And to me this kind of thing is really a Shame.
What a Shame wrote on Dec 1, 2008 10:56 AM:
Seems to me that the entire U.S. is going down the tubes very fast. Even around this area. Coquille cop stealing evidence, youth pastor arrested on sex charges, all the robberies and breakins. What is the world coming to. To bad the law does not start looking into where the problem really is, such as, what the kids are taught at home, what they are taught, if anything, at school, the music they are allowed to listen to and the shows that are on T.V. anymore. I just don't understand where all the morals have gone. I just don't understand.
Coos Bay Kid wrote on Dec 1, 2008 9:59 AM:
A) Don't believe everything you read.
B) Society is sick and so is the church.
C) Parents: know where your kids are at all times.
D) Youth departments are a joke. Always have been. Kids need to be in a regular church service with adults.
E) Wake up Christians and take responsibility for your own family.
B) Society is sick and so is the church.
C) Parents: know where your kids are at all times.
D) Youth departments are a joke. Always have been. Kids need to be in a regular church service with adults.
E) Wake up Christians and take responsibility for your own family.
To North Bend Youth Pastor wrote on Dec 1, 2008 9:26 AM:
Where is the position of youth pastor even mentioned in the Bible? And does your church follow the biblical standards for eldership as a test for leadership? My children are grown, but I never entrusted them to a youth pastor.
Cora wrote on Dec 1, 2008 8:57 AM:
This stuff happens all the time. This is why we have so many registered sex offenders. I know one, 18yr old guy and 16 yr old girl. Guy gives girl a hickey and she tells step Dad a big old lie so she doesn't get in trouble. Guys life ruined for ever and we don't focus on the real predators. I think there's more to the story.
StrongCoffee wrote on Dec 1, 2008 2:42 AM:
Gossipy stories like this one are better traded over neighbor's fences. In my mind this is really petty and beneath journalistic standards to even print. So a 22 year old boy had sex with a younger girl. Wow that's never happened before. Thanks for the heads up.
NB Youth Pastor wrote on Nov 30, 2008 8:21 PM:
16 year old,
I, and many other youth pastors in the area, appreciate your comments and will be praying for you, the persons involved, and your youth group as you deal with the fallout and mistrust that will come in the days ahead.
Mom,
Although for this to happen one time is one time to many, please understand that nearly all the churches I am aware of have stringent "child protection policies" in place and even have background investigations done on anyone in positions of leadership or assist in children's departments.
What this guy is accused of doing is totally intolerable, and churches in our area are very concerned about protecting your child and every child that walks into our youth groups. Your child is valuable to us and will be treated with the utmost respect when at my youth group.
I, and many other youth pastors in the area, appreciate your comments and will be praying for you, the persons involved, and your youth group as you deal with the fallout and mistrust that will come in the days ahead.
Mom,
Although for this to happen one time is one time to many, please understand that nearly all the churches I am aware of have stringent "child protection policies" in place and even have background investigations done on anyone in positions of leadership or assist in children's departments.
What this guy is accused of doing is totally intolerable, and churches in our area are very concerned about protecting your child and every child that walks into our youth groups. Your child is valuable to us and will be treated with the utmost respect when at my youth group.
Hmmm. . . . wrote on Nov 30, 2008 7:35 PM:
The police department won't release her name since she is a juvenile. . .hence, her name and age not showing up in the article.
damons lady freind again wrote on Nov 30, 2008 7:02 PM:
leave damon alone its not his fault some little girl fell head over heals for him damon is a good guy i dont care what any of you have to say about it. i talk to damon everyday. he thinks of all those kids as brothers and sisters. he wouldnt ever do anything to hurt them. he has told me about the girl who likes him. its not his fault she has a crush on him. he has NEVER touched that girl. and i know that for a FACT!
NB Churchgoer wrote on Nov 30, 2008 6:43 PM:
I don't think this story should have been published until all the facts were able to be included. Please remember that the while the church is responsible for proper background check they are not responsible for a persons error in judgement. Each person makes their own choices.
Concerned Citzen wrote on Nov 30, 2008 4:03 PM:
To 16 year old. First of all sorry for all the turmoil your church is now going thru. If he was not a leader then the church needs to look at their policies better. He is a 22 year old man not a kid. If he was hanging around teenagers as a as just another "kid" then the actual leaders need some retraining as to not let adult men or even woman hang out as just another kid and not as an actual leader even if they may have gone to the youth group in their past (if he was a former youth group member I don't know if he was or not). Once you become an adult then you should be treated as another adult leader not a peer that used go to the group.
darla wrote on Nov 30, 2008 3:37 PM:
As usual, not enough details to inform readers or to allow them to make any sort of a judgment -- and it sounds like the details that are here may be wrong anyway. C'mon, get the facts then write the story.
OneofThosePeople wrote on Nov 30, 2008 3:29 PM:
To JH
Tell me... Where was 'God' on THAT one??!!
God was in the same place. He was watching these people make their own decision as he allows us to do freely. They also knew the consequences. This same God also offers forgiveness to them just as he does to you and I.
Tell me... Where was 'God' on THAT one??!!
God was in the same place. He was watching these people make their own decision as he allows us to do freely. They also knew the consequences. This same God also offers forgiveness to them just as he does to you and I.
Resident wrote on Nov 30, 2008 2:11 PM:
The story says he was an "assistant youth pastor"--not really the pastor. But what if we actually went by the biblical standards of having elders for leaders? There would be no 22 year olds in ANY leadership positions. Personally I feel that discernment is lacking in our local churches.
Mike wrote on Nov 30, 2008 12:58 PM:
He fell off the path of righteousness. As we all know is thin.
Don't judge him, save that for God. Pray for him that he will look to God for guidance instead of falling to the enemy.
"MOM" that is a broad brush stroke you make. Children are safe in their churches. It is not right to think that now all youth pastors in all the churches will do such things. Pray for him.
Don't judge him, save that for God. Pray for him that he will look to God for guidance instead of falling to the enemy.
"MOM" that is a broad brush stroke you make. Children are safe in their churches. It is not right to think that now all youth pastors in all the churches will do such things. Pray for him.
16 year old youth of that church wrote on Nov 30, 2008 9:42 AM:
I am a "Child" yet I have enough brains to actually know that before I publish an article in a public news paper, I would get the facts straight. I am a teen youth at this church and i am so appauled by you printing this article... damon was just some kid who came to youth. He wasn't a pastor or a leader... The devil wants this attack on our church and you have done a very good job publicizing false info! I am 16 and what happened is already going to affect our church enough but to do this... what are you people trying to teach children... do you want them to learn how to judge, gossip and lie!!!
Angrywhiteman wrote on Nov 30, 2008 9:42 AM:
There is a paucity of details here, the age of the victim should have been revealed, it may have thrown a little light on just how "perverted" this crime is. I always wonder if there is an agenda behind these one sided reports.
No I don't condone Noels acts.
No I don't condone Noels acts.
j wrote on Nov 30, 2008 8:00 AM:
Was this girl 17 or 13, both are rape, but one is alot less upsetting, my cousin will be always considered a sex offender because his girlfriends Mother pressed charges with only 2 years different in age. They now have been married for 15 yrs, but everytime something happens he gets rounded up
the rest of the story... wrote on Nov 29, 2008 9:54 PM:
Why mention he is a youth pastor and not tell the name of the church?
CB GAL wrote on Nov 29, 2008 9:10 PM:
This is awful! When will our children be safe from these perverts.
A child of God wrote on Nov 29, 2008 8:34 PM:
This Article is a discrase to our church... I am an active member of this church and I know for a fact that if this news paper had any dignity it would have gotten the facts straight. Damon is not a Youth pastor or a leader... He is just a kid that Decided to come to our church. God loves everyone one but what Damon did was inexcusable. This is what the devil wants... DON'T GIVE IN!!!
~ A very dissapointed Youth...
~ A very dissapointed Youth...
Upset Pastor wrote on Nov 29, 2008 6:53 PM:
At 22 years old, there is no way this man could have received the proper training to be admitted into the Office of the Ministry (normally seven or eight years of post high school education) along with a period of long-term observation of candidates. Unfortunately there are sects which have no professional or academic standards for those they call as ministers.
Coos Bay Resident wrote on Nov 29, 2008 3:32 PM:
Well, maybe things are getting better in the area. At least in wasn't incest and the guy was stepping outside the family. Why are most pople so screwed up here?
concerned grandma wrote on Nov 29, 2008 3:30 PM:
Why isn't the church listed as part of this news item? If a predatory crime takes place in association with a school, church or non-profit organization, citizens have the right to know what groups in their community may have inadequate oversight. Someone employed this man. Who? What type of background checking was part of the hiring process or volunteer recuitment?
more to it wrote on Nov 29, 2008 2:28 PM:
There is more to it then you see here. He was only 22 and she was almost 18.
Bay Area wrote on Nov 29, 2008 1:37 PM:
Jesus. He didn't do anything perverse. This isn't more prevalent in the church. It's just that when sex and religion collide on your street corner you stop for a second and "oh yeah! That's right! Family life isn't about protecting my children! It's about teaching them how to deal with the inevitable threats of existence.
You want to help your children? Stop bringing them to church. Stop teaching them to believe in a benevolent father figure that will punish them for their misdeeds. Teach them about personal accountability and science. Teach them about sex and how to have it safely. Do anything. Just stop thinking that your kids are safe, and do your best to equip them for what lies ahead.
But most of all... don't freak out when your daughters have "consensual" sex with the youth pastor.
You want to help your children? Stop bringing them to church. Stop teaching them to believe in a benevolent father figure that will punish them for their misdeeds. Teach them about personal accountability and science. Teach them about sex and how to have it safely. Do anything. Just stop thinking that your kids are safe, and do your best to equip them for what lies ahead.
But most of all... don't freak out when your daughters have "consensual" sex with the youth pastor.
Laughing Confessor wrote on Nov 29, 2008 1:19 PM:
Huh?
Prevalent? Do you mean more often than not or are you just sticking the spoon in to stir it up?
Perverts exist in *ALL* forms of society but often these cases of abuse outside of religious circles go *UNREPORTED*
Dragging Priests into the topic (your anti-catholic comment) holds no water since nothing was mentioned about -=which=- church this assist. youth pastor was from.
Prevalent? Do you mean more often than not or are you just sticking the spoon in to stir it up?
Perverts exist in *ALL* forms of society but often these cases of abuse outside of religious circles go *UNREPORTED*
Dragging Priests into the topic (your anti-catholic comment) holds no water since nothing was mentioned about -=which=- church this assist. youth pastor was from.
clarence wrote on Nov 29, 2008 9:32 AM:
I dont think that it is prevalent in church I think thet they make it more so because of who they are and what they believe in. By know means am I protecting the priests or pastors if they commit these acts then they deserve the same as any other offender
Coos Bay Kid wrote on Nov 29, 2008 9:19 AM:
People, the churches are sick. The overall church continues to remain stagnant. Sunday christians are the mainstream and it all comes from leadership. No accountability and no substance. This assistant youth pastor has a pastor who is responsible for training and guiding this young man. What a horrible example this is for our youth.
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