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freedom to choose wrote on Dec 14, 2008 7:27 PM:
we all have the right to choose to smoke. hooray to you if you never started smoking, i choose to smoke because i enjoy it. i can hear the comments now, I have always tried to be polite around non-smokers, and go as far away as possible, For me it relieves stress, Many people choose to drink alcohol. I don't, but i could make a comment about drinking, Have you ever been waiting in line and the person in front of you or behind you reeks of alcohol, it is sickening, enough to make you gag, no one complains about alcohol. pick on the drinkers once in awhile!!Leave the smokers alone, We all have habits.so get over it!! We all have the right to choose our habits. Except it and get on with your life, You high and mighty do-gooders make me sick!!
more from RADICAL wrote on Dec 14, 2008 6:28 PM:
As for the fat comments, I'm overweight myself (surprise surprise) and I think the next step is a fabulous idea! Lets offer free membership to the athletic club! That would be sweet. We'll have to push for that one too! I think that if they are going to be damn late from leaving to have a cigarette the job should go to someone who is punctual. They'll find a way to make it work and everyone (even the smokers) will be better off in the long run. As for a "right to smoke", you are right wow that's a wonderful right to have isn't it. I wasted how much money and how many years on my life to stink, have bad breath, and not do valuable things with my time! Geez everyone should be blessed with that right.
Radical wrote on Dec 14, 2008 6:27 PM:
I think it is great and as a fairly recently smoker who's quit smoking it'll be nice not to go to the hospital (HEALTH care facility) and walk through smoke. It sucks. As a health care professional, it also sucks for the patients who smoke and just had an MI (heart attack) or stroke and they can't smoke, decide they want to quit to prolong life and their families come in reeking of a cigarette box and they are joansing how about that.
Just Me wrote on Dec 6, 2008 4:55 PM:
What does fat have to do with smoking beside the fact that people say they gain weight after they quit smoking because they tend to eat more? If I were to eat donuts in the workplace and blow in your face you would not fall over dead in a few years from second hand donut-smell. Besides that when I walk into a place that has smokers hanging around doors, I often think to myself, "I wish all these people that are smoking in this area would die right now from their own smoking problems instead of taking innocent people with them". Statistics don't matter whether obesity is a number 1 killer or number 10 killer, fat people are everywhere and if someone fat blew on you, you wouldn't die. I wish cigarette's and all inhaled products were illegal, unless prescribed by a physician.
NON-SMOKERETTE wrote on Dec 5, 2008 1:20 PM:
I AM A NON SMOKER AND I HAVE SEEN THE PLACE ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THEY HAVE BUILT FOR SMOKERS....IT IS OUT OF THE WAY AND DISCRETE. I THINK THAT THE EMPLOYEES HAVE THE RIGHT TO SMOKE OVER THERE AND I THINK THEY ARE POLITE ENOUGH TO DO IT AWAY FROM THE ENTRANCE AND IN THEIR OWN SECTION. THEY AREN'T BLOWING IT IN YOUR FACES OR ANYTHING. WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO IT BEING A FREE COUNTRY?
Jim wrote on Dec 3, 2008 7:49 AM:
Smoking is a filthy habit....it isn't anyone's "right" to expose me to this nasty smelly obtrusive behavior. Smokers for the most part are so self centered they really believe it is their right to light up, even if it affects others (which it absolutely does). I am glad to see it gone. Keep your habit in your own sty.
What a Shame wrote on Nov 24, 2008 2:46 PM:
TO FACTS ARE IN: You are right,,,The so called Govenor has been blowing smoke ever since he has been in office.
smoker wrote on Nov 24, 2008 3:49 AM:
I use to work at BAH and moved away two years ago. I now work at a hospital in Washington. To let you know I am a smoker. The hospital I work at went smoke-free back in 2007 and Jan. 2008 they made it that we cant even smoke on our breaks so smoking in our cars is out too and it seems to be working just fine, and we're 12hour shifts. I think it's fair for them to do this as it's the non-smokers right NOT to smell smoke on me. Yes, smokers should have the right to smoke but do it on your own time. And as far as picking on the overwieght stop it! That's a different issue then the No Smoking. You smokers will live through not smoking on BAH grounds, come on your living with smoking... And again I am a smoker!!!
stevef wrote on Nov 23, 2008 4:19 PM:
I'M a quitter. Smokers should butt out and abide by the rules like anyone else.
SAnd o what if someone is alittle
To the BAH employee who is a smoker: Are you kidding? Smokers have no rights
as a minority. Just make the choice to quit. It really is mind over matter! I
quit smoking after 30 years of it.
overweight.
SAnd o what if someone is alittle
To the BAH employee who is a smoker: Are you kidding? Smokers have no rights
as a minority. Just make the choice to quit. It really is mind over matter! I
quit smoking after 30 years of it.
overweight.
james wrote on Nov 21, 2008 11:43 PM:
OMG is a moron. I have yet to suffer from second hand blond....
smoking is an obtrusive, offensive, smelly, unhealthy habit that is foisted up on others because smokers think it is their right to screw up someone else's health..
smoking is an obtrusive, offensive, smelly, unhealthy habit that is foisted up on others because smokers think it is their right to screw up someone else's health..
STOPPED wrote on Nov 21, 2008 8:56 PM:
Hooray for Oregon going non-smoke in many places starting June 2009 especially the hospitals. I was a smoker and am very thankful I had enough sense to quit smoking in my 20's, hey that was when a carton of cigs was 1.69. To this day it makes me half way sick to have some one smoke close by and darn smokers are so rude they blow it right your way or hold the cig right next to you instill of in the other hand. Those who want their health to improve give the cigs up and your lungs with recover in time. They have a pill now which works wonderful no craving for a cig. Take the bull by the horns and just do it, later you will be glad and much richer money wise.
To -The World- wrote on Nov 21, 2008 6:55 PM:
In all my years I have never seen a group in the community attack another group so viciously. Can you tell us how many of these postings are comming from the same IP addresses ? Or even, how may are being posted from out of state ?
Just curious. (please dont attack, Im only curious)
Just curious. (please dont attack, Im only curious)
oh yes wrote on Nov 21, 2008 2:32 PM:
Yes, someone finally said it. Smokers... you smoke and stink up the air around us - not our choice.
Then when you are at your desk - or taking my pulse - YOU STINK! I have to gag at the smell that lingers to your clothing. It is a dirty stinky habit - and it is not fair that we have to live with it. I go to the hospital to get better - and i have to wade through the stink so i dont gag. Think of others - not just yourself. We dont fart in your face!
Then when you are at your desk - or taking my pulse - YOU STINK! I have to gag at the smell that lingers to your clothing. It is a dirty stinky habit - and it is not fair that we have to live with it. I go to the hospital to get better - and i have to wade through the stink so i dont gag. Think of others - not just yourself. We dont fart in your face!
Asthma Sufferer wrote on Nov 21, 2008 1:21 PM:
For those of you who have asthma [myself included], it was great news to hear that there will be no more smoking at BAH. It is so difficult to go through the cloud of smoke to get to the ER. Although it is a person's right to smoke, I prefer it not to be around me or anyone else.
To BAH employee wrote on Nov 21, 2008 11:23 AM:
I doubt it will take away business since all public places are going smoke free and this is a hospital people have to come here when they need your services..where else they going out of state? Also you seem like an angry person maybe your attitude will be a reason people stop coming? And you still stink when you smoke outdoors cause the wind blows it back on you, I have friends that smoke and when I went to school they would all come back in from lunch reeking of cigarette smoke but at east that don't kill you, if you want to stink fine your choice but it's non-smokers right not to die from your habit!!
A QUITER wrote on Nov 21, 2008 10:28 AM:
KATHI...don't even go there. If you wore a perfume that caused problems for your co-workers you company would ban that too. Except it, smokers have an offensive odor and we should not have to endure it. BTW: Even perfume doesn't cover the odor of smoke.
BAH employee wrote on Nov 21, 2008 10:08 AM:
I am a BAH employee and a smoker. I am so sick of non-smokers and there high and mighty attitudes. We already smoke outside. People who smoke close to the entry ways, if you notice, are visitors, not employees. We go to the designated smoking areas to smoke. Forcing us to smoke in our cars will cause us to surely smell verses smoking outside in the open air. You are taking away our rights. The hospital will loose business. When people are here with a sick family member and cannot go outside to smoke when they are stressed, wait and see how well that goes over. And where did being fat come into any of this? BAH is the "Bariatric center of excellence" now, and that is why we get all of the obese patients! Take away all of you non smokers caffeine, alchol, and fast food, and see how you like it. Lay off! You people make me sick.
to al the pal wrote on Nov 21, 2008 9:44 AM:
Good point. If the tobacco tax decreases with Jan 2009 ban where will the money come from. Now before you all chew me out I don't think there should be smoking allowed at BAH, but I am just curious about what the state will tax to make up the loss in tabacco tax
to Kathie wrote on Nov 21, 2008 3:24 AM:
Respiratory failure..not likely unless you have severe allergies. And if you do you can complain to your place of employment and they will ask that employees not wear it. So millions are asking you not to smoke because it kills them so deal with it. To try and liken smoking and perfume wearing is pretty ignorant.
Had it wrote on Nov 20, 2008 7:15 PM:
If BAH would quit accepting medicaid, most of this problem would go someplace else.
Al the Pal wrote on Nov 20, 2008 5:16 PM:
OK.
I stop smoking and the next thing to happen will be my tax dollars going to bail out the big tobacco companies. And...
How is the Oregon Health Plan going to be funded? Tobacco taxes pay for a sizable portion of this health plan.
I see one or both of two things happen:
More bail out money for the Oregon Health Plan. Or other taxes put in place to fund it.
Neither of which benefits me, I make too much money to qualify for coverage under the plan. I just get to pay for it.
Pay me now or pay me later. If I had any brains, I'd stop working and live off the tax payers like most of my neighbors do.
Meanwhile, I'll just keep taking it in the rear end.
I stop smoking and the next thing to happen will be my tax dollars going to bail out the big tobacco companies. And...
How is the Oregon Health Plan going to be funded? Tobacco taxes pay for a sizable portion of this health plan.
I see one or both of two things happen:
More bail out money for the Oregon Health Plan. Or other taxes put in place to fund it.
Neither of which benefits me, I make too much money to qualify for coverage under the plan. I just get to pay for it.
Pay me now or pay me later. If I had any brains, I'd stop working and live off the tax payers like most of my neighbors do.
Meanwhile, I'll just keep taking it in the rear end.
Kathie wrote on Nov 20, 2008 4:29 PM:
It is amazeing to me the people who want to complain about the smell of the cigs, yet don't give it a secind though when you are pouring on your,perfume. Is so bad its sends people into resp, failure frequenly. if the smell is getting to you. pouring on your crap it stinks to us and makes it so we cant breathe. maybe you could think about that a lille.
A quiter wrote on Nov 20, 2008 11:47 AM:
I wonder if the smokers understand how bad they smell after they have been on their smoke breaks...(if you are a smoker and would like to know what you smell like after smoking, pick up an ash tray and smell that...there ya go) I don't want to have breathe that in either.
JUST ME wrote on Nov 20, 2008 8:56 AM:
This is no different than not being able to smoke any where else. You cant smoke in stores,schools,post offices,libraries. There are alot of places that are smoke free. Big deal just stay at home if you want to smoke. I am glad that the hospital is doing this. Cuz i get tired of having to walk through the smoke clouds everytime i have to visit someone in the hospital. Not everyone likes to smoke your cigarettes with you !!! I for one do not like to have to inhale the second hand smoke.
NON-SMOKER wrote on Nov 20, 2008 8:24 AM:
What is it with the food issue? I can understand wanting healthier food in the hospital, but One person having a bag of chips does not in any way effect another person! And one persons bag of chips is not the same to anothers. Not all people are created equally.
duh wrote on Nov 20, 2008 6:00 AM:
"Exposure to second-hand smoke has been confirmed to be the cause of about 800 deaths a year in Oregon."
Since when does someone being overweight kill other people? BTW get used to it it's happening all over the country pretty soon the government will have banned it in 50 states don't like it why don't all you whiners move to Mexico?
Since when does someone being overweight kill other people? BTW get used to it it's happening all over the country pretty soon the government will have banned it in 50 states don't like it why don't all you whiners move to Mexico?
Cindy wrote on Nov 19, 2008 7:07 PM:
I had surgery at the brand new Sacred Heart in Eugene this summer. Their campus is TOBACCO FREE. They even expect patients and visitors to skip the dip. By the way, the tobacco industry is trying to develop new products to keep your addiction under control even when you can't light up.
Reality check smokers - you are paying a fortune to hasten your death and destroy your health. It is a disgusting stinky and ugly habit - wake up and kick your addiction. It costs us all in higher health insurance costs. There's nothing like seeing a person slowly shrivel up and die from lung cancer - my grandfather checked out wieghing like 86 pounds and was almost unrecognizable.
Reality check smokers - you are paying a fortune to hasten your death and destroy your health. It is a disgusting stinky and ugly habit - wake up and kick your addiction. It costs us all in higher health insurance costs. There's nothing like seeing a person slowly shrivel up and die from lung cancer - my grandfather checked out wieghing like 86 pounds and was almost unrecognizable.
wellness wrote on Nov 19, 2008 6:42 PM:
I agree. It is disgusting. Most of the people I know who took up smoking did it in the military. Dont they have special hospitals for those types of people ? Why smoke at BAH !
puff wrote on Nov 19, 2008 5:23 PM:
I'm a smoker and can understand non smokers offense to it. I also understand BAH wanting to go smoke free. However, they better remove the candy, chip and soda machines just inside the top floor and start serving cafeteria food with less fat, less carbohydrates and less salt,etc.,etc.
WOW wrote on Nov 19, 2008 5:07 PM:
First of all they are protecting the needs of the PATIENTS in the hospital. Keeping smoke away from them is their primary concern. I have seen many people have asthma attacks just from inhaling the smoke. This is a HOSPITAL, not just any business. This is a place where they need to nurse sick people back to health. If they banned smoking at a gas station (oh wait, it already is) I am sure there would be a lot less complaining. Not only is it promoting better health in the community, it is keeping the patients safe from having more problems. Oh and how did obesity get involved? It is nice to know how people REALLY feel about things going on in this community.
Fedup wrote on Nov 19, 2008 4:12 PM:
To "Good Grief" ya actually I was at BAH on Friday and I DID have to go through nasty smoke! Just because there is a designated area does NOT mean that all people use it! There are still people smoking in front of ER!!! Hello just because the speed limit is 55 does not mean everyone obeys it! By the way not all "fat" people get fatter just because they can't smoke seriously wake up and get a clue!!
NON-SMOKER wrote on Nov 19, 2008 2:29 PM:
I have an aunt who has a near asthma attack everytime I use scented soap! What do you know??? You are not allowed to were perfume at work. Or latex. Or anything harmful to a persons health. Its not like smoke stays in one area and if you were a non-smoker you would understand how it affects others. I grew up in a house as a second-hand smoker and until my parents quit smoking, I had no idea how bad I must of smelled everyday I went to school. When I get into the elevator at work the cigarette smoke is soooo strong left behind from a smoker. I guess its a good thing cigarettes dont swell like fish or underarms. There would be alot less smokers smoking at work!!
NON-SMOKER wrote on Nov 19, 2008 2:29 PM:
Lets see, is there a thing such as second hand obesity? Do people have an asthma attack from contact with a fat person? Maybe the hospital should put in a bar too, cause there are people here who could really use a drink. Maybe even turn the designated smoking places into "hot-boxes", after all, there are sure to be alot of cancer patients needing their home-made nausea and pain relief. Get real!! BAH is like one of the last hospitals to be smoke-free. And it should be. If a person cannot go with ANYTHING for an 8 hour period, its addictive and they should see a physician. Next thing were gonna hear is people wanting disability cause they cant smoke at work!
Thank You wrote on Nov 19, 2008 12:16 PM:
Thank God, Its about time, can we start it now and not June PLEASE!! Fat may kill, but it only kills the one eating the food, Not everyone AROUND THEM!! DUH!!
Employee at Bandon Hospital wrote on Nov 19, 2008 11:40 AM:
Bandon Hospital has had a smoke free campus for several months now. sorry to spoil that idea for some of you..
Check the Facts wrote on Nov 19, 2008 11:21 AM:
Also includes within so many feet of the entryways and buildings..to prevent cigarette butts all over property businesses are expanding the bill to include all their property. Plus easier to enforce.
good grief... wrote on Nov 19, 2008 10:33 AM:
being smoke free is one thing, but prohibiting it from the property is another. i dont see anyone complaining they have to smoke outside, its the fact they have to leave to do it. as far as the non smokers, have u been to bah within the last few years? u dont go through smoke to get in, they spent millions already, making a specific smoking area away from the front doors, where it is not even visible to the public. what happens when you cant smoke? you eat... so therefore, all the fat people that smoke, will get fatter, cuz they will always be munching on something to keep them occupied. so much for bettering your health. u may not be able to smoke in a bar, but they dont say you have to leave town to do it.
facts are in wrote on Nov 19, 2008 8:57 AM:
Senate Bill 571-C expands the indoor smoking ban to include bingo halls, bars, taverns and restaurants. Extending the smoking ban will reduce the unnecessary exposure of workers to secondhand smoke.
Please note that this is for inside not outside. But hopefully this will encourage people to quit.
Please note that this is for inside not outside. But hopefully this will encourage people to quit.
Facts are IN wrote on Nov 19, 2008 8:13 AM:
This is a STATE wide no smoking ban..take it to your governor. It is not only the hospital that is going smoke free but all the bars, casinos, stores (property) everywhere is going SMOKE FREE only I thought it was Jan 1, so the hopital is not to blame.
Local Lady wrote on Nov 19, 2008 8:11 AM:
Thanks but I don't need help. I'm not a child anyway. I'm just one of many people in this town tired of having to put up with your smell and your litter. Your habit offends me.
Non-Smoker wrote on Nov 18, 2008 9:46 PM:
If you need to smoke you have options:
1. Walk off the property to smoke.
2. Get in your car and drive off the property and smoke.
3. Quit Smoking.
Life is really all about choices....
1. Walk off the property to smoke.
2. Get in your car and drive off the property and smoke.
3. Quit Smoking.
Life is really all about choices....
Geez Local Lady wrote on Nov 18, 2008 7:29 PM:
Local Lady
Maybe you should go to the new facilty by your families home and get some help for your hostility.
Maybe you should go to the new facilty by your families home and get some help for your hostility.
shocked wrote on Nov 18, 2008 6:29 PM:
wow!!!!!!! whether you smoke or not that is your choice. in my personal opinion if you are outside and want to smoke go for just be polite to the people around you and keep your distance.
Fedup wrote on Nov 18, 2008 4:52 PM:
Get a life not all people are Obese by choice...there is truly genetic problems that stop you from losing weight! I am working my butt off trying to shed a pound it works but slowly! The last thing I want to do is be working to get healthy only to go in and pay my bill at BAH through your nast smoke go to your car or home deal with your own BUTTS!!!
High School Student wrote on Nov 18, 2008 2:59 PM:
Obviously you don't want to smoke that bad if you are going to complain about where you can't smoke. Why would you want smokers in front of a Hospital - it looks bad AND people are affected by it. Smokers are promoting bad health to children, and some kids go in and out of hospitals everyday...
What is wrong with this community wrote on Nov 18, 2008 1:37 PM:
Its not about profit or discrimination. Its about promoting a healthier environment for our community. We should all be glad that our community hospital cares about a healthier community by assisting us to quit smoking. I have been a smoker and a non smoker. If you go out of the area there are bars that do not allow smoking. Is that considered discrimination? Why wouldnt we want to have a hospital that cares about us? We should all be thankful to have the people who work at BAH. Overweight or not, they are all there to help us when we need help. They put in crazy hours and have to take care of things most people could not even stomach! So lay off BAH. Stop being so mean and hurtful. It is for your own good.
To Susieq wrote on Nov 18, 2008 1:32 PM:
What smoking and obesity have in common is the effect on health. They are both huge draws on public and private health costs. The January 2009 Oregon smoking ban effects Bars and Taverns. It will ban smoking INSIDE, it has nothing to do with outdoor smoking areas.
Local Lady wrote on Nov 18, 2008 1:24 PM:
All you smokers throwing your little poor us pity party can go away. When it comes down to it, you can just go on killing yourselves with you death sticks, and for me personally, it has nothing to do with any sort of second-hand cancer risk. It's the fact that your habit is disgusting and you stink. You are offensive to people that are just trying to get through their day without smelling your butt!
SusieQ wrote on Nov 18, 2008 12:36 PM:
Smoke, fat? What's one got to do with the other? Isn't there a law going into effect that bans smoking in public places in OR in Jan 2009? Yes there is, so what's the big deal with BAH?
If they want to help me wrote on Nov 18, 2008 11:54 AM:
If they want to help people stop smoking and eating, work to relieve stress. Most jobs these days offer very little to the employee in the way of stability. There is almost 0 loyalty towards workers and so many are living paycheck to paycheck. Our 401ks are under assault, our healthcare rates, you name it
FYI wrote on Nov 18, 2008 11:50 AM:
I thought I would throw this into the mix. I have been in HR & Health Ins. Law for 25 years. There is a national trend starting in employee benefits - for over weight AND smoking clients to now be surcharged. The state courts are upholding these charges as long as the insurance company offers assistance with weight loss and stop smoking. As the trend goes eventually medicare.medicaid and the other government sponsered coverages will follow.
non-smoker wrote on Nov 18, 2008 10:05 AM:
Its about time!!! I hated going anywhere near the BAH cause of all the 2hand smoke you got to blaze through. The thought of looking at someone whos on oxygen sitting outside and smoking, I strongly feel that they should have a choice of smoking or their oxygen tanks..
Kara wrote on Nov 18, 2008 8:27 AM:
I think you need to quit picking on fat people. You don't know their history. Some people are large by heredity. I am a large person and eat very little. I am still a productive member of society - working full time - and not on any State assistance - so lay off me.
what a hoot wrote on Nov 17, 2008 8:29 PM:
Anyone who is stupid enough to pick a hospital based on smoking/non-smoking gets what they deserve. How about picking a hospital that provides good care? And you who said that Coquille is a "vet hospital". Did you go up there demanding drugs for your "headache?" Are you one of the ones that are banned because you always have a "tooth ache, headache or back pain" and want your drugs? Our hospitals put up with a lot of crap from people acting like customers.
Cruel wrote on Nov 17, 2008 6:16 PM:
"Come On" you are not being truthful. Please return to California.
Hmmm.. wrote on Nov 17, 2008 6:04 PM:
To Come on
Furthermore I guess because I commented on this you presumed that I was a smoker!! I guess I would have to presume that you are overweight and tell you that there is also help for you out there. Did you know that in some states you would have to pay extra for your health insurance because of your weight.
Furthermore I guess because I commented on this you presumed that I was a smoker!! I guess I would have to presume that you are overweight and tell you that there is also help for you out there. Did you know that in some states you would have to pay extra for your health insurance because of your weight.
Hmmm.. wrote on Nov 17, 2008 5:57 PM:
To Come on..
Did you miss the part where I said that I didn't think employees should smoke or be over weight? I also don't think there should be smoking there at all. I am wondering about smokeless tobacco products. You can't get second hand smoke from chew!!! As I said if it is about health they need to address the obesity at BAH..
Did you miss the part where I said that I didn't think employees should smoke or be over weight? I also don't think there should be smoking there at all. I am wondering about smokeless tobacco products. You can't get second hand smoke from chew!!! As I said if it is about health they need to address the obesity at BAH..
FRED wrote on Nov 17, 2008 5:33 PM:
Hmmm. I thought the W.H.O. did a 20 year study that found no ill effects from secound hand smoke. I would think that if secound hand smoke were as bad as all the alarmist claims then people walking down main street Coos Bay would be falling over dead from car exaust. I must have been mistaken. Thankfull I have some public corperation makeing these disitions for me.
Come On... wrote on Nov 17, 2008 3:33 PM:
Hmmmm.... your statements are very questionable... I mean come on, do you honestly believe that first and second hand smoking is in the same category as obesity? Last time I checked my life span wasn't shortened by standing next to someone who is overweight.... I feel sorry for all of you who are against a smoke0free hospital... I bet you would have a heck of a time in a larger city where smoking in any public place is prohibited.... even in your car! There is help out there for you... I suggest you find a way to save lives and money and quite!
What a Shame wrote on Nov 17, 2008 2:11 PM:
I think that all of you have a lot of guts calling Coquille vet clinic a hospital. I have to go there and I have never been treated so bad. From the floor sweeper to the Doctors all of them were very rude and very unprofessional. From now on, I will only call this hospital nothing more than a vet clinic.
Hmmm... wrote on Nov 17, 2008 1:52 PM:
This rule says no tobacco use of any kind. How does smokeless tobacco affect anybody except the user? If it is for health reasons again I say that the obesity needs to be addressed.
Come On People wrote on Nov 17, 2008 1:31 PM:
I don't feel that BAH should go completely smoke free. I think they should have one designated section for their employees and family members to go to.
I am not a smoker anymore. However, during some very stressful situations with a family members health over the past three years. I have on occasion gone outside to the smoking section to take a couple of drags from a cigarette. This is mainly to calm down. When people are under stress please don't take away their one chance at relief.
I am not a smoker anymore. However, during some very stressful situations with a family members health over the past three years. I have on occasion gone outside to the smoking section to take a couple of drags from a cigarette. This is mainly to calm down. When people are under stress please don't take away their one chance at relief.
crazy people wrote on Nov 17, 2008 11:30 AM:
You know what I find so interesting??? The fact that smokers are complaining about this! Come on you crazy people.... Smoking is bad, it can kill you.... second hand smoke is bad, it can kill you.... don't you think it is a non-smoker's right to breath clean air vs having to walk through your filth to get in and out of a hospital... a place that should promote good health?? To think that you have the right to pollute everyone elses air with your vice is assinign!
Opinions are like noses wrote on Nov 17, 2008 11:00 AM:
For all of you seeking a "smoking" hospital...keep on puffin' and you won't need a doctor. You'll need a mortician. I hear they do not care if you smoke or not.
wowww wrote on Nov 16, 2008 6:25 PM:
HOW many BAH Staff that will be affected in that program . free smoke do you think they can still function!!!
goodluck
goodluck
Pete wrote on Nov 16, 2008 2:49 PM:
It's amazing how many people seem to be in denial. They don't even understand that smoking itself is harmful, so I guess that's why they can't comprehend all of the studies that show the damage done by secondhand smoke.
moonpenny wrote on Nov 15, 2008 11:55 AM:
More than likely, its not the hospitals total decision, I am sure their insurance companies are pushing for this. Or they could be facing a huge increase in premiums. Theres not 1 thing anyone can say "good" about smoking, yet 100's of reasons it is "bad" for you. I was a smoker and yes I do miss it. Smoke free for 4 years now :)
darla wrote on Nov 15, 2008 4:16 AM:
"And how many people die per year from Lung Cancer that have never smoked a day in their life?"
What's your point? Are you of the mind that smoking is somehow good for you and others around you?
What's your point? Are you of the mind that smoking is somehow good for you and others around you?
Joe Sixpack wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:45 PM:
Just stop taking taxes from tobacco. And ban Candy soda pop diet pills cars ATVS florescent lights and my favorite fluoride so get off the soap box and treat ALL people fair no mater how far below you think they are tobacco is steel legal!
Coquille Valley Hospital Employee wrote on Nov 14, 2008 7:32 PM:
Don't plan on going to Coquille Valley Hospital, we are going to be a smoke free campus also as of July 1 2009. Sounds like all the local hospitals are going smoke free...
Cruel wrote on Nov 14, 2008 6:45 PM:
You have found your mother in intensive care she will not make it. A rent-a-cop is dispatched to ask you to leave the parking lot for smoking. Ya, I want to see how that conversation goes..!
I have seen this before. Some bean-counter has decided that since they cannot make money though quality healthcare, they will drive down the employee medical costs by driving out the employee smokers. Good luck keeping them ontime from breaks to walk or drive off campus. Try to find enough non-smokers in Coos Bay to clean up the feces for you.
BAH is spitting in the face of local family members of patients (thier customers). These people are kind enough to keep it outside in the rain and wind already. If your community was not of the smoking variety, you would not need this policy.
Maybe funeral homes should ban tissues for the environment. It is all about profit. Where is your compassion ?
Shame on you.
I have seen this before. Some bean-counter has decided that since they cannot make money though quality healthcare, they will drive down the employee medical costs by driving out the employee smokers. Good luck keeping them ontime from breaks to walk or drive off campus. Try to find enough non-smokers in Coos Bay to clean up the feces for you.
BAH is spitting in the face of local family members of patients (thier customers). These people are kind enough to keep it outside in the rain and wind already. If your community was not of the smoking variety, you would not need this policy.
Maybe funeral homes should ban tissues for the environment. It is all about profit. Where is your compassion ?
Shame on you.
ignorance wrote on Nov 14, 2008 5:02 PM:
To "OMG" Sorry totell you but, smokers are NOT a protected class and therefore it is not discrimination. Get a clue before you mouth off.
Hmmm... wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:49 PM:
Obesity is 100% bad for anyone. Even with the heredity excuse diet and exercise works. If BAH wants to project health they need to work on the propensity of overwieght employees. They employees there shouldn't smoke or be overweight.
Dave A. wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:41 PM:
Anybody ever notice how many hospital employees are tremendously obese? You can find them in the cafeteria all the time. They should set up scales at the entrance and check them like trucks. If they're overweight, turn them around.
Mark Smith wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:21 PM:
I wouldn't go to Bandon as I think they are non-smoking already. Looks like coquille or reedsport. You could go to Medford I suppose, but nope they are non-smoking also. Maybe it's time to kick the habit before you kick the bucket by avoiding hospitals where you can light up.
deke wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:18 PM:
OMG,
Take your smoking and your myopia down the road somewhere else. Calling this policy "discrimination" is breathlessly stupid. I'm sure the hospital will survive without your "revenue."
Take your smoking and your myopia down the road somewhere else. Calling this policy "discrimination" is breathlessly stupid. I'm sure the hospital will survive without your "revenue."
Whatever wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:17 PM:
WTG Bay Area, Cut your nose off despite your face. Another discrimmination work, Doubt you will survive this one.
OMG wrote on Nov 14, 2008 3:30 PM:
thank goodness you are not the only one in the area...guess i will just go to a different hospital,(bandon, coquille, reedsport) whether being a patient, or visitor, as i have the right to smoke, as well as you have the right not to smoke, and that is not only violating my rights, it is discriminating against me for something i do. that is like saying nobody with blonde hair is allowed to work there. discrimination. way to go bay area hospital, you just lost alot of money.
Mark Smith wrote on Nov 14, 2008 3:11 PM:
But obesity isn't something people have a lot of choice in. In many cases sure it is eating bad and not exercising, but heredity also plays a huge roll in it. Adults that are fat are very often kids that were fat. Even thin parents that do eat well have fat kids for no reason. Smoking is 100% bad for anyone who does it or anyone within range of breathing it. It is a choice plain and simple
Hmmm... wrote on Nov 14, 2008 2:40 PM:
Maybe they should look into becoming FAT free also...Obesity kills almost as many people as tobacco.
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