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Shaun wrote on Nov 15, 2008 12:55 PM:
I realize it's not always parents that are the problem. But parents with multiple children that this organization tried to help coming on here with lynch mob mentality like this is offensive to me.
And I stand by that!
And I stand by that!
Coos Bay Alum wrote on Nov 14, 2008 7:22 PM:
A lot of those kids would be in jail if it weren't for Belloni Boys Ranch and the Wyneva Johnson Center for Girls. Those programs not only try to help delinquent kids but they also take in kids rather than putting them into the foster system. A lot of those kids go on to live productive successful lives.
To Shaun wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:24 AM:
I've seen some excellent parents have problems with their kids. So that's not always the problem.
Linda wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:17 AM:
Not once did I say I blamed the Ranch, I said it needs to be investigated or at least evaluated. And I stand by that. And so far "one" success story. Can someone give us a number on how many have been there?
Shaun wrote on Nov 12, 2008 6:54 PM:
.... But the fact that you've had MULTIPLE kids there, is curious to me. No the shelters aren't perfect, but you know what? It's hard work that they do, for very little pay. Dealing with kids that are in crisis is NOT something you leave at your desk at the end of the day, and maybe if more parents could be supportive of those trying to help, things could be better.
Instead you're blaming everyone except the one family where your problems originated, and I find that a tad disgusting, personally.
Instead you're blaming everyone except the one family where your problems originated, and I find that a tad disgusting, personally.
Provider wrote on Nov 12, 2008 3:19 PM:
Exactly Cora, it is up to the PARENTS to hold their child accountable. As I have seen first hand, too many parents are being raised by their children or the schools, agencies, etc. are raising them. Too many parents say, "I can't control them" or are too busy with their own social life to be a parent.
Success wrote on Nov 12, 2008 2:12 PM:
I know a young man who went through the Belloni treatment program. I sincerely believe he would not be here today but for that program. I sympathize with the woman who had a bad experience (my son had a bad experience at a facility in Roseburg), but please know there are success stories out there.
Cora wrote on Nov 12, 2008 10:14 AM:
To provider: I disagree, we need to go back to when the kid does something wrong whoever tells the parent, and the parent isn't afraid to bust the kids ass. The kid needs to be held accountable. People see parents in public spanking there out of control kid and they get on there cell phone and turn them in. Well there is big diffence between spanking your kids bottom and abuse. It's part of the reason we have the problems with kids today is because they know, my kid told me once I'll call 911, I replied, let me dial the number for you!
Linda wrote on Nov 12, 2008 9:41 AM:
I had a 10 month experience with the ranch and my son ( who went there for hitting someone one time) and a couple of times with my teen age daughter at the shelter. So "anonymous" ther was no confidentiality with the licensed psychologist there. As a matter of fact we knew more about the other boys lives than they did probably. As a matter of fact we'd comment when left a session, I wonder what she's telling the other parents about us. And further more we paid over $500.00 a month when he was there. And the shelter, well they evaluated my daughter in 30 minutes and said she was just a normal teen and she took off from there that night. And on your iniatial meeting at the Ranch, they tell the boys, or they told my son anyway, that one of the key things was to tell on each other. Boy that's key. 100's of success stories, bull. That program needs restructuring big time!
Provider wrote on Nov 12, 2008 8:06 AM:
The bottom line is this...we continually give money to the state to care for these children. Until we as a culture hold parents accountable, there will be no end to this. 90% of the children incarcerated are there because of their parents.
What a Shame wrote on Nov 10, 2008 1:37 PM:
Belloni's Ranch is nothing but another tax give away. I worked there for a while, and I for one know what goes on there. I actually got in trouble for chewing out a kid, in private, and what I was hired to do. I was told that a person does not talk negative to these kids because it might give them the wrong idea about athority and about the adult population. Most of these "innocent little devils" need to be up North and locked up, not being treated like they are at Belloni's. By the way, after two weeks trying to do my job and ME getting in trouble for it,.......I quit. Belloni's is a total joke
ANONYMOUS wrote on Nov 7, 2008 9:40 PM:
Linda, I am personally aware of countless success stories of youth who have gone though the shelter/evaluation program, as well as those who went through the Girls' or Boys' Ranch treatment programs. Belloni has an excellent reputation throughout the state for providing quality services to troubled youth and their families. It seems as though you have some type of personal experience with the agency, and your personal expereinces have nothing to do w/ the situation at hand. Believe me, there are 100's of success stories! But those employed in the field respect the confidentiality of residents--past and present. So that's all I can say. The focus here should be on the victim, as well as the 15 year old perpetrator, who is obviously a disturbed young individual.
sherry wrote on Nov 7, 2008 12:19 PM:
I HAVE WORKED IN THIS KIND OF FIELD MOST OF MY LIFE AND I DO FEEL FOR THE CHILDREN THAT HAVE TO BE IN ANY PLACE LIKE THIS,BUT PLEASE KNOW THAT WHEN YOUR CHILDREN DO GO INTO THE SYSTEM THAT THERE ARE POSSIBLIETIES OFANYTHING HAPPINING TO THEM.BUT THERE ARE ONLY SO MUCH THAT THE STAFF CAN DO TO HELP ALL WHO WALK THROUGH THE FRONT DOORS.GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
observer wrote on Nov 7, 2008 11:20 AM:
This did not occur at Belloni Ranch. The boys and girls ranches are long-term treatment programs. This unfortunate incident happened at Belloni Shelter, a holding facility for troubled kids. Kids are only supposed to be there for up to 30 days until an appropriate treatment plan and placement can be found in a more long-term program. It shouldn't be compared to Belloni Ranch.
Linda wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:16 AM:
To Anonymous, success stories? When my son left the ranch they told me specifically that there are no success stories. So show me some. Let's hear it.
ANONYMOUS wrote on Nov 7, 2008 9:06 AM:
With regard to previous comments, respectfully, if you haven't worked in this field, you have no idea what the dedicated staff of trained professionals deals with on a daily basis. For this one unfortunate event, there are also 100's of major success stories that don't "make the newspaper." While this event is tragic, my guess is the staff did everything they could legally do in this situation. Please don't chastise people who do excellent work for little pay. They deserve your respect and support, as does the Shelter program and the agency as a whole! Judging without knowing the whole story is an ignorant, futile act.
Wow wrote on Nov 7, 2008 8:12 AM:
These are people who are doing the best they can withthe funds and rules they have.. know the facts before you judge..
Seriously wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:07 PM:
Without any idea of what happened we're casting blame on the care givers? Yikes. That's a really tough job they are doing and they deserve our support and the benefit of the doubt, unless there are clear facts to the contrary.
reedsgirl wrote on Nov 6, 2008 5:46 PM:
this is a huge part of my life (the victim) and i think the bolony ranch needs to be a little better staffed. if there was better staff this would have not of accured..
Chelsea wrote on Nov 6, 2008 2:01 PM:
How could this have happened if there was enough staff? Sounds like someone isn't doing their job! Where is the protection?
just me wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:59 PM:
If she was in so called "CRISIS" that day doesn't that seem to mean that she may have been a threat to the other kids and maybe should have been separated from the others? Maybe then this would not have happened to this little girl!!!
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