Voters flunk Coos Bay school bond issue

By Alexander Rich, Staff Writer
Wednesday, November 05, 2008 | 31 comment(s)

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The Coos Bay School District is going back to the drawing board after its $60 million bond measure received a stiff rebuke from voters.

With 97 percent of the ballots counted by early this morning, the no votes nearly doubled the yes votes, 7,372 to 3,862.

School board Chairwoman Kathy Murray said she had a bad feeling about the measure’s prospects when the economy soured.

“I understand the difficult times and putting a bond up in this climate, it’s hard for a lot of people,” she said. “The timing has been unfortunate.”

She said the board and the Schools for the Future Committee, which recommended the $60 million bond measure, would meet in the next week to discuss the district’s alternatives.

“There is definitely a consensus that the need is still there and it’s not going to go away,” she said.

Bob Huggins, who served as the committee co-chairman, said he had been girding himself for a landslide against the measure.

“The financial crisis certainly didn’t help, and with that, I suspected the chances of it passing were not very good,” he said.

He left it to the school board to decide what should happen next, though he agreed something needs to be done about any future bond measures.

“The size and length of it. That’s probably what we need to rethink,” he said.

Superintendent Bob De La Vergne said the bond measure’s defeat won’t affect the district’s focus on education.

“We will continue to improve student learning. That’s what we do,” he said.

“We’re going to continue to do good work.”

The district still has money in its capital fund, he said, though it will be used sparingly.

“We can’t put roofs on our buildings, and there are some pretty bad leaks out at Sunset (Middle School), but we will continue to make repairs as needed,” he said.

Murray said the board knew it was asking for a lot when it put the bond issue on the ballot earlier this year. Board members relied partially on a phone survey that suggested voters would support a $36.6 million bond measure, but not a $75 million one. The board eventually decided on the $59.95 million amount. It wanted to build two new elementary schools and make repairs at other district buildings.

The board decided to stick with that amount despite the worsening economy.

“To turn around didn’t seem like the thing to do,” she said.

Murray was a little disappointed the results were so much against the measure, though she said it would be important to talk with voters to find out an acceptable amount.

“At some point we hope that we can find some common ground that they will support,” she said.

The issue will be discussed at the board’s meeting Monday, De La Vergne said.

“This is an opportunity to learn what the community wants from us,” he said. “We’ll just go back and come up with a better plan.”
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ANTI NORTH BEND wrote on Nov 13, 2008 10:56 AM:

I wouldn't vote on anything N.B. Why whould I want to as I live in Coos Bay. I voted against consolidation. The only reason I would vote for consolidation is that I keep wearing out my watch stems as every time I go north I have to turn my clock back 50 years, and then back again when I get home.

What a Shame wrote on Nov 12, 2008 3:04 PM:

Coos Bay would love to consolidate with North Bend. The problem is, North Bend knows how to use their money to the fullest benifit, and Coos Bay does not. That is why the consolidation measure a few years ago did not pass. People in N.B. know where there tax money is going, and the people in Coos Bay do not. They just want more and more and more. North Bend will never consolidate with Coos Bay as long as they spend money like they do. It doesn't matter if it it the Coos Bay School District or the City of Coos Bay itself, neither know how to manage their money and N.B. does.

Student wrote on Nov 11, 2008 8:09 PM:

I think they should lobby a $100 million bond measure and use the funds to bust parties.

Joe Sixpack wrote on Nov 10, 2008 8:23 PM:

If you all want consolidation call it North Bend

rick wrote on Nov 10, 2008 7:11 PM:

Hey observer.....
why don't you pay my propert taxes for me.Then you will understand why people like me are against this.We are broke and can't afford to pay our propert taxes!We are tired of our property taxes going up every year!
rick

rick wrote on Nov 10, 2008 7:06 PM:

I would have voted no for this.Since I live in north bend I couldn't.Why is it every time the schools want money, the county wants money,and the sherrifs want money, that the home owner gets reamed on there property taxes.I'm paying almost $3,000 a year and it has gone up evey year since i bought this house.Something needs to be done so other citizens pay there fare in taxes(none home owners)!Like renters taxes on renting a home or apartment.This way home owners are not being over burden with property taxes.
rick

LYNDA wrote on Nov 10, 2008 3:32 PM:

I would not have voted "yes" for this before the economic crisis. I believe in paying for schools for our kids, but it is hard to pass a huge bond measure when the schools we have have not been maintained for quite some time.

Also, what's the deal with wanting to tear down Eastside School and build a new one? The last time kids went to school in this building was 2001-2002.

I would vote for money to fix and repair the existing schools especially if the School Board would make some kind of commitment to the voters/taxpayers that they would keep repairs current in the future. I won't vote to build new schools when the district has a proven track record of not repairing our school buildings.

School Board please do a better job of getting out your message as to why things need to be repaired or rebuilt. Just hearing that they decided to put a $60+ million bond measure up for a vote because a survey indicated that voters didn't have an appetite for a $70+ million bond, but would likely approve a $30 million bond. What?

What a Shame wrote on Nov 10, 2008 1:19 PM:

If the school board members would have maintained their building like they should have, the buildings would not be in the condition they are in now. The normal old game is to put a lot of money into the maintenance budget and let the public know that all this money they are asking for will fix this and this and this. But in reality, the School Board has no intention of using that money for what they are telling the public, it is just a ploy to get the budget passed. The money is there after the budget is passed, then the School Board pulled it out of the maintenance budget and uses it elsewhere, like paving parking lots, sports, and even worse teachers pay raised and their own pay raised. If you don't believe me, just ask the head of maintenance for the Coos Bay School District and ask him where all of his money went that he put in for, and got passed. But now most of it is gone and the maintenance problems with the different schools are put on hold AGAIN and are still a major problem.

what wrote on Nov 6, 2008 1:47 PM:

Where do you find the information that the state and feds would cough up more money for the schools if they consolidated? In fact, the money sent by the state and feds depends on ADM. So, even if the two schools would consolidate, the ADM would be combined and would be the same as the two gross amounts that they are already getting. Why does Coos Bay think consolidation is the answer to all things? North Bend will simply tell Coos Bay to go fly a kite. What rock do you live under?

Glenn wrote on Nov 6, 2008 11:08 AM:

I voted no on this bond for a variety of reasons. The main reason is that just a couple of years ago the school district closed 2 schools because they weren't "needed." The district needed those 2 schools when I went and they now need them again. What about when the schools were closed? Why weren't they needed then? In order for the the broke taxpayers to pony up a large amount of money for new schools the district needs to get its priorities straight and start spending the money we already give them wisely. I don't mean close schools to save costs or fire teachers and custodians. Maybe they should trim back on the people making over 100k a year...

coos bay native wrote on Nov 6, 2008 10:38 AM:

I have faith in the School Board, and the current Superintendent, that they will continue to do an excellent job and what's best for our kids and community. The Superintendent had good quotes in their continuing efforts to improve our local education. Keep up the dilligent and hard work! We all appreciate it.

Heather wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:57 AM:

CONSOLIDATION. THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

Why do we have TWO school districts??? If the PAIN is REALLY that bad, then they will find the OBVIOUS solution.

It is not in the students best interest to have two districts. . .it is in the administrators!

Until, then, I'm voting no.

Ric wrote on Nov 6, 2008 9:00 AM:

What isn't being said is that there were at least two proposals for board to consider before putting out a levy request. This is probably only really a rumor status, but as I understand it, there was a second proposal for the levy that was substancially less. Seems that they decided to go for the big one to see if they could get it through, which also has the effect of softening the voters up for a second try with a lesser, but hopefully more realistic value.

I went to the CB schools and sent my kids through also. I have seen what they have not done in the way of maintenance over the last several years. I am not impressed. There are leaks in the roof at the Highschool that have been there at least off and on since I went there in the 70's.

That, in itself, is not the only problem, but I do know we need to support the school administration. But that does not mean we need to blindly go forward when they don't make the soundest of choices.

R

Need I say the word wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:48 AM:

Consolidation!

We need to consolidate the two school districts into one. The infrastructure is already in place between the two districts, enough class room space to help alleviate some of the crowding, enough teachers to handle all of the students, and it would get more funding from the State and the Feds based on the larger population of students.

It would also lessen the administrative costs of running two school districts that would allow for more money to the schools. It is time to get away from the old mentality, we have to stick together if we want this community to survive.

Kari wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:02 AM:

What's all the griping about, Ron Opitz got paid to push this on us, as usual.

Once again, he takes our money and gives us jobs, HIS and his ASSISTANTS.

How many times?

Mark Smith wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:49 AM:

I think it was stupid that they ever put 60 million on this measure. By their estimates they needed 36.5 minimum. Had they put 40 on the measure it might have passed, but that big a number too many people think it would be wasted, and many people are right here, too much uncertainty these days, who can afford to add more taxes.

beebsie wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:41 AM:

Just an observer: HOME SCHOOLING!

Kim wrote on Nov 6, 2008 7:13 AM:

I think this community needs to understand we are not Orange County or Beverly Hills here. Residents just don't have thousands of extra dollars just sitting in their wallets! Most everyone in this town is living paycheck to paycheck or living off a credit card and making the minimal payments. Yes it would be nice to have new schools, I agree. But this community does not have high paying jobs to let people have extra money to donate or to pay for these things!

HEY NOW wrote on Nov 5, 2008 10:26 PM:

Coos Bay isn't "pushing" anything away. People voted down a 60 million dollar bond. Simple, ECONOMY!! If everyone had a great job with benefits and no layoffs they probably would have voted differently. And how arrogant of the school board to pay for a survey they didn't even listen to. How much did that cost? Pare down the bond, and learn to do with what you have. New buildings are nice, but the teachers we have in this area are great. And remember, education is what YOU put into it. Don't expect everyone else to do it for you.

Mr E wrote on Nov 5, 2008 8:26 PM:

If you're leaving the community, it is because you have a better potential for a job. If you are leaving the community because you don't like the facilities, even though you love the teachers, staff, and educations... well, dare I say, I think Coos Bay's collective intelligence will soon increase.

Please, get out. We don't need more whiny anti-business (yet pro-tax) citizens around here. We have enough of them already.

IF you want better schools, by all means, use some of the cash that's sitting around your home to help fund increased business opportunities in the area. DONATE FUNDS TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. Do SOMETHING. Nah, it's easier to cry like a spoiled child, then take your ball and go home.

Resident wrote on Nov 5, 2008 7:27 PM:

The items that were to be fixed with new schools can be fixed on the existing schools. Sloping floors, leaking roofs, and heating systems can be fixed and updated. Isn't this what we do at home? Maybe those who have children in the system can donate toward building repairs.

Coos Bay Kid wrote on Nov 5, 2008 7:22 PM:

It's not that people don't want to support the schools financially, it's the fact that our taxes are already too high. The funds are mismanaged. Administrator's are overpaid. The general population of homeowners can't afford the increase in property taxes. I moved to the Salem/Keizer area 3 years ago. There is no comparison in the quality of education my kids are getting now compared to when they were in Coos Bay. Hold on though, change is coming.

bob1 wrote on Nov 5, 2008 5:59 PM:

to the commentors who say they are moving you know the old saying....Don't let the door hit you in...
Have any of you read the newspaper lately? Layoffs at the Mill Casino and 30 more at GP? What do you expect people to pay this bond with? Good Grief the economy just went to hell.
I suspect many of you are employees of D-9. I am not a senior but when my kids went to these schools everybody had a job if they wanted one.
Now that we have a president that seems to care about all of us Americans maybe things will get better...eventually.

Does not matter wrote on Nov 5, 2008 4:19 PM:

Peggy Sue
It does not matter, our community would not have passed a bond regardless.

We are moving after this school year, for the mere fact for better schools. I love our children's teachers, prinicpals and staff. I cannot believe that people do not support their community and the future generation. Good Job Coos Bay. You have pushed away jobs, Drs...and now children. Feel proud! Tax payers...shame on you.

DLG wrote on Nov 5, 2008 3:45 PM:

The voters have spoken. Quit crying about it and move on (or out). No one, repeat, no one should whine about the voter's decision. No one.

Parent wrote on Nov 5, 2008 2:45 PM:

I'm very disappointed this didn't pass. We need to put more money into the schools...whether its repairing or building new. I see that Lane County passed a few school bonds. It's just very discouraging to see that our area didn't do the same.

RJ wrote on Nov 5, 2008 2:05 PM:

Peggy Sue brings up interesting points, but I think they're flawed. I seem to remember the bond measure had to do with repairing and upgrading existing schools. The school districts have done an exemplary job of living within their means. When the means are too small, there's nothing to live with.
And "Just an Observer Too" is right, this is one reason I'm really glad to be moving out of here and to somewhere that wants to give their children a future.

PEGGY SUE wrote on Nov 5, 2008 1:27 PM:

What I dont understand is why dont they ask for money to repair the existing schools. It would be more cost effective than to build 2 new schools. That is what North Bend had to do with Hilcrest. We need to start living within our means, and rebuilding what we already have. That shouldnt just include all of us middle class folk but our county budgeting and school districts as well. Neither would need as much money if they lived within thier means. They have already cut back services to reflect thier budget.

Just An Observer Too wrote on Nov 5, 2008 12:38 PM:

Too many seniors on fixed incomes living here... they don't see it as "their" responsibility to help pay for new schools...I bet they weren't saying that when their kids went to these schools...PS this is a message to all parents with school age children... leave the area for better schools or better yet DO NOT MOVE HERE... leave all those who voted against this measure looking for doctors in Eugene, Portland and in other "real cities" that see the importance of replacing our ancient and falling down schools.

Just An Observer wrote on Nov 5, 2008 11:56 AM:

Now we will wait until the school buildings get so bad that they are condemened as unsafe for occupancy. The people here don't want schools apparently. Welcome to the Third World!

m. hoffman wrote on Nov 5, 2008 7:15 AM:

You said this article was about the school tax. story doesn't fit the tittle. what about the schools.


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