LNG supporters catch up in making presence seen

By Alexander Rich, Staff Writer
Saturday, October 11, 2008 | 49 comment(s)

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It’s a loaded question. What do Coos County residents think about building a liquefied natural gas terminal on Coos Bay’s North Spit?

No one knows for sure. There has never been a countywide poll or vote, in part because siting authority now rests with the federal government.

But that doesn’t stop people from guessing.

Tim Bishop thinks supporters outweigh the naysayers. Now he’s trying to turn them into a not-so-quiet majority.

A lifelong Coos County resident, Bishop has seen a lot of families leave with the loss of timber and fishing jobs.

“I happen to be one of the crazy ones,” he said. “I think this area will turn the corner.”

In his opinion, an LNG terminal can make the difference.

“It can be kind of an anchor tenant on the North Spit,” he said.

Bishop has supported the project all along, though his support increased substantially over the past month.

When Jordan Cove Energy Project and Pacific Connector Gas Pipeline held a joint town-hall meeting last month, Bishop took action. He sent out e-mails. Lots of e-mails, imploring them to show up.

“Just shy of 1,000,” he said.

The result? Supporters, many sporting “LNG Yes!” pins, outnumbered opponents at the meeting.

When the Oregon International Port of Coos Bay held a special meeting to extend its agreements with Jordan Cove and Weyerhaeuser, he sent out more e-mails. Fewer supporters turned out, but still they made their presence known.

When the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission holds a public meeting Oct. 27, Bishop plans to crank up his public relations machine.

“I’m very happy with what we’ve done so far,” he said.

In addition to the e-mails, Bishop and two fellow LNG supporters have created a Web site, http://www.friendsoflng.com. It is designed as a forum for people to post topics of discussion about LNG and related issues.

Some of the posts talk about how various political leaders view LNG while others talk about how to undermine opposition to the LNG project.

Jody McCaffree, leader of the local Citizens Against LNG group, said she has noticed the increase in the numbers of supporters, though she hasn’t been impressed.

“I see it as uninformed people coming to meetings because they want jobs,” she said. “I think it’s a reaction to our success.”

She suggested supporters of the project haven’t investigated the implications of the project and if they did, wouldn’t support LNG in the area.

Jon Barton argues just the opposite.

As president of Friends of New and Sustainable Industries, he has provided his support to Bishop and the Web site. He too has been trying to get more support behind the LNG terminal and sees the Web site as an opportunity to educate the public.

“The thing that becomes blatantly obvious as we talk to people is that they are only hearing one side of the story,” he said.

Barton said the biggest misconception is the safety risk.

“The terrorist talk is rubbish,” he said, suggesting the actual risk of an accident is much overblown by opponents..

He also downplays the environmental impact, noting that most will occur during construction of the terminal and pipeline.

“In a few years, you won’t even know it is there,” he said.

Bishop points to the potential of new jobs, millions of dollars in tax revenues and the possibility for additional industries moving in on the tailcoats of LNG.

“No other company is sitting at our doorstep,” he said.

For a while, Bishop figured the energy companies didn’t need any help. But that opinion changed with the business community in Astoria lobbying for the Bradwood Landing project and the possibility only one terminal will be built in Oregon. He figured now was a good time to make a push.

That isn’t to say he has no concerns about the project. Although he sees little cause for safety worries, he is bothered about the prospect that the pipeline company will use eminent domain to gain access to property.

“I hate to see eminent domain used at any time, but it was put in place so one can’t stand in the way of many,” he said.

McCaffree thinks it is the eminent domain issue that most people area against.

“I don’t think the silent majority supports the use of eminent domain,” she said.

Some residents asked the Coos County Commissioners to put the issue to a vote in May 2007. Commissioners Nikki Whitty and John Griffith both opposed the idea, suggesting it would be a meaningless exercise since the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission has the final say. Commissioner Kevin Stufflebean said he wouldn’t oppose a vote, as long as it comes at no cost to the county.

“If people just want an advisory vote, I don’t think taxpayers should have to pay for it,” he said.

Commissioner-elect Bob Main was unavailable for comment Friday.

While Bishop doesn’t have any solid facts to support his insistence that most people like the idea, he said he has spoken with a many business owners and citizens who share his views.

“It is hard to take a stand on an issue when it can cause your business harm,” he said.

So far he hasn’t seen any of that backlash. When he attended the port meeting last month, someone wanted to know more about him, but otherwise he has only had positive feedback.

“Most people are calling and thanking me for keeping them informed,” he said.

(Staff Writer Alexander Rich covers LNG issues for The World. He can be reached by calling 269-1222, ext. 234; or by e-mailing to arich@theworldlink.com.)
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Supportive wrote on Nov 7, 2008 11:28 AM:

The people who are against anything obviously have been fueling the opposition. Do they have any industry they are trying to lure here so our kids don't have to move away?

For It wrote on Nov 7, 2008 11:27 AM:

Why can't people support change that will bring jobs. They complain all the time about jobs leaving but do nothing to promote industry that would provide them.

Jane wrote on Oct 24, 2008 8:49 AM:

Read again...it will be appealed again all the way to Oregon's Supreme court at least (Federal Supreme court not out of the question due to this obvious safety factor...sorry

Citizen Jerry wrote on Oct 23, 2008 12:10 PM:

Jane,

Trumped again!

AP - October 23, 2008 12:45 PM ET COOS BAY, Ore. (AP) - The Oregon Court of Appeals has sided with Jordan Cove Energy Project

Not sure whats the worse scam LNG or Ferc dictatorship wrote on Oct 20, 2008 12:02 PM:

Notice how the Republican party had to pass a law in 2005 by passing individual state rights of placement of this expensive Lng the USA! Probably due to the fact that ONLY 6 of these useless Lng storage units have been successfully put in vs the many more places that have rejected it! Instead of getting less dependent on fossel fuels from foreign countries we are doing the opposite! There's plently of natural gas in the Rockies to supply Oregon's future needs & plently of other ways to produce clean energy (Wave, Wind, Solar, etc. etc.), but here we are with this useless Lng at Jordan Cove! Again, not sure what's the worse SCAM (Lng at Jordan Cove or FERC's dictatorship), because it's a coin toss up for a lose lose situation for Oregon citizens & the entire USA!

every poll taken in newspapers and radio shows majority against this lng wrote on Oct 20, 2008 11:06 AM:

Couldn't agree more, Oregon takes all the risks, gets air pollution & 400 tax paying Oregon citizens get 80 foot wide section of land FORCED from them by foreign investors....just so Northern California can get this expensive gas! No vote on this does mean a Oregon citizens are getting SCAMMED in the worse way!

Arnold wrote on Oct 20, 2008 10:03 AM:

Quoting the Fort Chicago website (http://tinyurl.com/6amat8):

“Jordan Cove is being jointly developed with Energy Projects Development, LLC. Fort Chicago controls the project through a limited partnership formed to hold the project, and holds a preferential economic ownership interest in excess of 90 percent.”

“Pacific Connector is being developed in a limited partnership owned equally by subsidiaries of Fort Chicago, The Williams Companies Inc. and Pacific Gas and Electric Company.”

This states that Fort Chicago is a third owner of the pipeline and is the only ‘foreign’ entity involved in the project. FC is a Canadian company with origins in Illinois. They currently sell great amounts of natural gas to the United States. I’m not sure when Canada became an untrustworthy destabilizing outside interloper.

To respond to the incessant desire to have a vote I have stated a few times that you have direct legislative control in your hands. A petition with 6% of the last general vote total will allow a vote in the next election. 82,769 valid signatures are required to get a ballot measure in the current election. I have heard you have 4,000 so get collecting.

Jane wrote on Oct 20, 2008 9:00 AM:

You said it all, "Anytime an issue isn't voted on that effects safety, air quality & eminent domain" it is a SCAM to tax paying Oregon citizens!!!

No state vote for lng equals scam to Oregon citizens wrote on Oct 20, 2008 7:23 AM:

Anytime an issue isn't voted on that effects safety, air quality & eminent domain! I don't consider 80 foot wide section of land by eminent domain something minor to any tax paying Oregon citizen especially when they don't get a say in it by vote prior to those foreign investors FORCING the sale of it! I agree this Lng at Jordan Cove is a SCAM to Oregon citizens!

Arnold wrote on Oct 18, 2008 5:11 PM:

“2 mile hazard burn zone”? Your mixing a lot of talking point words on that one. There are designated areas of concern where measured precautions are prescribed. There are similar 'zones' with the airport and with any well planned endeavor.

I'm not aware of anyone being forced to sell their land. The pipeline company is seeking an easement to gain a right of way.

Only 6 residences are within 100 feet of the pipeline and an accommodation has been made when land owners have communicated concerns. One instance is the Oregon Women's Land Trust.

The compensation must be good since I have observed one timber owner working to ensure the pipeline was routed on his property

The price that has been quoted twice in these comments as being twice the price of domestics gas was a deal struck between Indonesia and Japan. The Oregon Department of Energy has stated that LNG shipped to our port would likely be 8-9% higher then domestic gas, but domestic gas production will be tapering of in the future.

Which part is the scam? How many times do you have to say scam to make it the truth?

Citizen wrote on Oct 18, 2008 8:17 AM:

I am so sick and tired of people trying to shut down any idea that brings jobs to this area. You all love tourism. What's the difference job wise? Even if they bring in peple from outside the area those folks will still spend money here. Just like the precious tourists. As for all the doom and gloom predictions. I moved back here 10 years ago. What is going to happen is this community will continue to die out. It will become ghost town compared to what it once was.

This LNG at Jordan Cove is a scam wrote on Oct 17, 2008 4:35 PM:

400 Oregon citizens being FORCED to sell their land so a 36 inch pipeline can go through it on it's 230 mile journey to Northern California, so this expensive gas (2 times more expensive then natural gas used today by Oregon citizens) can be used! Oregon get's all the risks (2 mile hazard burn zone risk from every Lng ship that travels here, being less then a 1/2 mile distance from populated area here). Oregon get's outsiders taking the few jobs created by this, because Oregon locals won't meet the educational & experience requirements! Oregon get's an air polluter! Oregon get's 230 miles of possible ruptured pipe that could cause a explosion as happened in Appomattox County, VA, causing out of control forest fires! I'd call all these negatives for a few extra tax dollars without having the right to vote on this, a classic SCAM on every Oregon citizen!

arnold wrote on Oct 17, 2008 12:40 PM:

I did read it and it said things that support your point and things that support my point like:

“2. Oregon imports 100 percent of its natural gas, mainly from Canada and the Rocky Mountain states.



4. A new pipeline from the Rocky Mountains or one LNG terminal could more than meet Oregon’s increasing natural gas needs. “

And

“The U.S. Department of Energy’s Energy Information Administration (EIA10) anticipates that world LNG prices will decline as more liquefaction capacity comes online and that the U.S. will begin to import more LNG.”

And finally

“Prices from 2001-2006 for LNG delivered to the U.S. were nine percent higher than domestically produced natural gas and eight percent higher than natural gas imported by pipeline.”

So we are both served by the document you brought up. I did fail to find the word SCAM though. Perhaps you were paraphrasing.?

I still encourage you to use those signatures to initiate a ballot measure as lists of names are mailed to the capitol regularly with little effect.

To Arnold wrote on Oct 17, 2008 11:46 AM:

View the 4,000 signatures by contacting the Governor's office.

The Dept. of Energy letter that you supplied...did YOU read it?
"....it is unlikely that
LNG terminals in Oregon would result in lower prices because of LNG market dynamics.
Pacific Basin LNG is not currently competitive from a price standpoint with U.S. and
Canadian-produced natural gas.

5. There is significant unused LNG terminal capacity on the Gulf and East coasts, raising
further questions about the need for LNG terminals in Oregon....A recent LNG contract between Indonesia & Japan priced LNG at over TWICE the price of North American natural gas."

wow odooter wrote on Oct 16, 2008 5:17 PM:

you almost make everyman look reasonable. you two should get together and start your own country, somewhere else.

Arnold wrote on Oct 16, 2008 5:01 PM:

Where can we see the 4,000 signatures?

Yelling LNG SCAM doesn’t get any point across other then you are portraying yourselves as angry people, please calmly explain what you mean by this.

A lot is being made about a vote. Oregon is one of the best states to initiate a ballot measure and this might be a good use for the 4,000 signatures and then we could have a vote.

The Port commissioners and staff are good people like you and I. It is not unreasonable to expect the ‘International’ Port to engage in business with people from foreign countries, this is kind of their mission.

Common Sense would you please post some references to the gas prices you mentioned? I’m sure the crowd here would like to know some actual facts please. I’m sure that anything the Oregon Department of Energy ‘says’ should be a matter of public record. We would all like to benefit from your homework. Here I’ll get you started http://tinyurl.com/4c85uq is what the the ODE did actually say.

Daniel L. Baumann wrote on Oct 16, 2008 3:22 PM:

Why not build an auto manafactering plant to build cars on the North Spit? Just a thought !!!

Common Sense wrote on Oct 16, 2008 2:12 PM:

Odotter,

Where you been the last 8 years? Bush got us in the IRAQ war where he claimed WMD (Weapons of Mass Destruction) were there & later all of us found out they had NONE! Then oil prices went from around $20-$30 a barrel to $130, thus gasoline went OVER $4 a gallon which has created our present economic hardship!

Back to the subject of this LNG SCAM, Oregon's Dept of Energy says this LNG is 2X more expensive then natural gas used today by Oregon citizens! Any future needs, natural gas coming from the Rockies would be cheaper then importing this LNG & finally said Oregon doesn't need it!

Do you homework next time before blaming the wrong people...

everyman wrote on Oct 16, 2008 1:14 PM:

Hey odotter...I actually think it's a little more selfish than just wanting to destroy our society...I think it's just plain laziness...

The anti's want all the benefits of living in a free market republic without any of the sacrifices..."I want the beautiful beaches, the moderate climate, the zero-risk lifestyle...oh, and all the stuff a slightly larger city has...but no industry, no growth, and by all means, NO inconvenience!"

..."It's the world that has been pulled over thier eyes to blind them from the truth..."

They will keep yelling "BURN ZONE, LNG SCAM, FORIEGN INVESTORS" and other bitter superlatives, as long as they think it will get them what they want...

A grey existence that knows neither the agony of defeat nor the thrill of victory. They will end up in the twilight years alone with the trees...

Odotter wrote on Oct 16, 2008 11:29 AM:

The anti-LNG gang wants one thing, the total destruction of the American economy.

It's the same crowd that backs ACORN, its the same crowd that resists any intelligent effort to produce energy on American soil or water.

State leaders where is the vote on this lng wrote on Oct 16, 2008 10:03 AM:

Pathetic how Gov Ted & his port clowns support unAmerican (Foreign investors, Federal Government take over of individual state rights of Oregon)! Where's the democratic process, like having a Oregon state vote on this Lng? If you (Gov Ted) allow this project at Jordon Cove to blindly go in, then you should QUIT (letting someone else that cares about their citizens & Oregon take your job)!!!

Hey Arnold n Mr.Bishop wrote on Oct 16, 2008 9:32 AM:

There are over 4,000 signatures against this LNG "SCAM". You say there are just over 1,000 signatures for this LNG "SCAM" do the math. WE DO NOT WANT BOBBY BOY AND THIS LNG IN OUR BACKYARD!!! The city of Canyonville,Or.(Resolution #504) and Douglas County Commisionors say "NO" to this project.

wayne wrote on Oct 15, 2008 12:35 PM:

You're welcome, ARNOLD.

Unelected people have almost all the say over this LNG and pipeline, and our elected officials haved chosen not to exercise even their minimal role.

So, where does the citizen get a vote that matters on this?

Arnold wrote on Oct 15, 2008 10:42 AM:

Wayne- The Port of Coos Bay (http://www.portofcoosbay.com/commstaff.htm)Oregon International Port of Coos Bay is designated a State Port, consequently members of the
Board of Commissioners are appointed by the Governor and confirmed by the Oregon
Senate for 4-year terms. Commissioners must be residents of the Port District. So they are a governing body appointed by the Democratic Governor of Oregon an elected official.

The Coast Guard and FERC are employees of the federal government headed by elected officials.

Thank you for catching my error that not every hand in the process is a directly elected one.

Hey Arnold wrote on Oct 15, 2008 10:38 AM:

Just let us know where you live, and what specialized LNG education qualifications you have (probably none unless your already on the inside...) and we'll all get right on it to make sure YOUR property is used for this project.

Thanks for volunteering, youre a swell person. You will make the LNG crowd very happy, and very rich!

Wayne wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:55 AM:

ARNOLD - I think most taxpayers/voters would find this a question best answered by the already elected officials.

FERC, the US Coast Guard, and The International Port of Coos Bay are not elected officials.

Arnold wrote on Oct 14, 2008 9:23 PM:

Common Sense- I have located one poll from Clatsop County that was against LNG development. Were they of voting age and were they floods of repeat clickers? Web polls are interesting but not enough to decide an issue. A statewide vote on LNG? A special election can cost $1.5-2 million according to Vote! http://tinyurl.com/54bpqe . I think most taxpayers/voters would find this a question best answered by the already elected officials.

You Can Tell- I have a good job now although I would make a higher wage at the LNG facility and will have to make my current employer aware of pay differential. If you can find a way to route the pipeline through my property I will rent the U-Haul.

Hey Wow- Young people want money and bling. 2/3 of NYU students will trade their vote for a years tuition and 20% will trade out for an IPOD Touch. http://tinyurl.com/396wmh A future with a job and possibility of advancement in a nice community is a good gift to give young people.

HEY WOW... wrote on Oct 14, 2008 3:48 PM:

you can believe that YOUNG people don't want this mess either.

I believe the young are tired of cleaning up AND paying for the mistakes, lies, and broken promises of the past just for the sake of a few making some big bucks!

Wow wrote on Oct 14, 2008 12:43 PM:

I cant beleive all of the blue haired old farts that cant stand for progress.

You can tell wrote on Oct 14, 2008 11:56 AM:

who are lining up for jobs at this plant; Everyman, Arnold, Anticaveman.

Please, PLEASE volunteer your properties for eminent domain (if you own any).

Common Sense wrote on Oct 14, 2008 11:11 AM:

Arnold (There's no fool like an OLD fool),

Check every newspaper that ran polls for or against this LNG SCAM (The World ran one also) & you'll see it ran at least 2 to 1 against this LNG SCAM! Again, have a state vote on this issue if you supporters aren't afraid of the results? I see one or two of Bob's cheerleaders are in here talkin alot, but making little sense as usual...

everyman wrote on Oct 14, 2008 11:02 AM:

If a tree falls in the forrest, and there is no-one there to hear it...will it still cause an LNG plant explosion that leaves a crater where CB/NB used to be?

I guess there are few of us Pro-LNG'ers out here after all, huh?

Keep yelling at us, keep ignoring our questions, and keep trying to scare the masses...

Oh, and BTW, by refusing to answer any REAL questions...aren't you all just doing the same thing you accuse Bob Braddock of doing, and yet he is the devil for it?

Arnold wrote on Oct 14, 2008 9:47 AM:

If they gave me notice that it was time to run the pipe through my property in Coquille then I would cash the check and smile. The opportunity to start a fresh slate is a nice gift. I know moving is hard but if you have been to an estate sale lately then you know we all accumulate too much junk. If we all moved every five years the garage might be a little more tidy. Sacrificing for the good of others is a privilege not shared by everyone.

In response to 'PLEASE' please define the pollution your alluding to, also how specifically will this 'shutdown the fishing'? I think the fishing restrictions that impede fishing are really in the hands of ODFW.

To 'Common Sense' may we see the links to these independent polls? A reference to the ODE position statement on LNG as well. Please provide a list of the counties that have refused LNG, I know Coos must not be one of those since we have an exiting pipeline.

I support this LNG effort for no pay and no appreciation only because I think its good for us all.

Anti Caveman wrote on Oct 14, 2008 9:46 AM:

Mr. Please,

eminent domain is something that has been here for many years. We would not have roads or power to anywhere if it did not exist. But I guess that you are not in need of neither of those as a CAVE (citizen against virtually everything) Person. Please decide that you will be part of the answer not part of the problem. Our community has suffered enough. We need a steady workforce. A Doctor who wants to be mayor need to stop living in a fantasy world. For years it has been we deserve better and for years the people saying this have done nothing. We cannot run a community on transfer dollars for retirees. So what is the answer. For those who want to live in a cave and scare the rest of us may I suggest Pakistan.

Wayne wrote on Oct 14, 2008 9:06 AM:

"TSA is there to keep idiots from using a plane loaded with jet fuel to take down vital infastructure around the country whaile killing many thousands"

Yep, and neither they nor the Coast Guard nor anything else around here can stop that very thing from happening to a fully loaded LNG tanker in Coos Bay. The cutter's guns can't even elevate to shoot down an airplane, the copters aren't armed for that, and no other military help can get here quickly enough. Does Jordon Cove or anyone plan to maintain a 24/7 anti-aircraft facility to prevent a terrorist attack, or will we just have pray every day that it won't happen?

Jane wrote on Oct 14, 2008 8:09 AM:

CITIZEN JERRY, I'm NOT amazed on your knowledge & NOT surprised on your ignorance:

1) It's in appeal right now due to that 2002 DLCD requirements!

2) Government study said LNG ship has 2 mile hazard burn zone & would be traveling within 1/2 mile of here!

3) Sealed? Has open fire at storage unit 24/7 & even Bob Braddock says it pollutes!

4) NOPE...LNG is under higher pressure (36 inch pipe vs 12 inch pipe)

5) Eminent domain is real

6) Both would have 36 inch pipes

7) Chip ships don't 2 mile hazard zones!

8) Bob Braddock said in the past outsiders would be brought in!

Been fun, but you just got slaughtered!

Please... wrote on Oct 14, 2008 7:50 AM:

eminent domain on Mr. Bishops property and I will then fully support the plant, even though the bulk of jobs will not go to locals.

Plus you can't say OK to this polluter and then turn around and shut down the fishing in Charleston for the sake of the environment.

You cant have it both ways, it makes no sense.

A Friend Of LNG wrote on Oct 13, 2008 6:16 PM:

Richard Chasm

If I was a lawyer and knew as much as you do I would sue!

No one in town is paid to do anything for YES LNG.

However where does the Sierra Club Money go? Do you or other anti's get some?

Gail wrote on Oct 13, 2008 6:08 PM:

Jay

I have lived here for 66 years. Your Small Town Small Minds statement begs for this reply. Go back to your large town where all your large brained friends live. What's your plan for bringing jobs, or do you care. Retired? Have you always been the pea brain on the block?

CITIZEN KIM wrote on Oct 13, 2008 5:58 PM:

WAYNE, TSA is there to keep idiots from using a plane loaded with jet fuel to take down vital infastructure around the country whaile killing many thousands, or to give you something to talk about in your community scare routine. What will you do for Halloween?

Arnold wrote on Oct 13, 2008 2:46 PM:

I'm glad to read this article and see our local paper report on this important local issue. We are also posting information at http://twitter.com/friendsoflng where supporters can get a quick bite of latestest news. I encourage all supporters to turn out for the big FERC meeting Monday Oct 27, 2008. Let's try hard to water down the Jody McCaffree Fan Club and their misinformed cohorts.

CITIZEN JERRY wrote on Oct 13, 2008 2:32 PM:

JANE! I'm amazed by your knowledge.

1.Why are the County and LUBA ignoring your great mind?

2.Why scare everyone? There never has been an explosion of an LNG Tanker. This is one of the safest industries in the world and 500 meters not 2 miles is just what science shows we need to be prepared for.

3.Air polution of a sealed system is ridiculous. Get informed.

4.Your statement is silly. Frozen LNG is warmed at Jordon Cove and put into the natural gas pipeline. It's all the same.

5.Scaring people again! Right of ways are purchased all of the time. You use electricity, phone, water, roads,etc., from right of ways. Some probably purchased by your retirement funds.

6. There you go confusing people again! There is no Jordon Cove structure or LNG ship in Appomattox County.

7. I get out of the way for chip ships when I'm fishing. 10 minutes of inconvenience. Same goes for LNG Ships

8.Again you degrade the citizens of this community. Locals qualified for the Carissa removal project. Jordon Cove needs welders. Longshoremen will work the ships.etc..

Arnold wrote on Oct 13, 2008 2:27 PM:

I'm glad to read this article and see our local paper report on this important local issue. The corrected link is http://www.friendsoflng.com and we are also posting information at http://twitter.com/friendsoflng where supporters can get a quick bite of latestest news. I encourage all supporters to turn out for the big FERC meeting Monday Oct 27, 2008. Let's try hard to water down the Jody McCaffree Fan Club and their misinformed cohorts.

Common Sense wrote on Oct 12, 2008 9:07 AM:

How silly of an flawed article of this LNG SCAM because:

1) Every poll taken by Oregon citizens has the majority saying NO to having LNG here!

2) Oregon's Dept of Energy says NO to LNG here!

3) Majority of counties of Oregon have said NO to LNG!

Bottomline is: The Majority says NO & IF you don't believe have a state vote on this issue, but Gov Ted & his Port commission clowns won't because they know....WE (Oregon citizens) know this is a SCAM that Oregon doesn't need!

Wayne wrote on Oct 12, 2008 7:34 AM:

“The terrorist talk is rubbish,” he said ...

In light of what happened on 9/11, that is an astonishing comment for any person to make!

If a relatively easy to do terrorist attack on LNG tankers in Coos Bay, which certainly would result in many deaths and much damage is "rubbish", then why does our airport even bother with TSA security?

Jay wrote on Oct 11, 2008 11:23 PM:

Small Town Small Minds.
How can they state the boats that will deliver the LNG are safe??
They are not built and are NEW and no track record Braddock has not told us the truth. Every meeting is a lie, it is a change in plans. Another energy disaster?
We have lots of Natural gas in a new find in Pennsylvania. We don't need dependence on foreign energy.Check the real job numbers and most of them will be hired out of Coos Bay.

Richard Chasm wrote on Oct 11, 2008 7:57 PM:

I tried to go to this web site, but in several tries I could not get in. This draft EIS is so incomplete and shabby it is bait for a law suit. Why don't the proponants get busy and demand that a EIS of a high enough quality that it will pass muster be done? Are these people getting money from the Port or any development agencies?

Jane wrote on Oct 11, 2008 9:03 AM:

What part of the following don't you understand:

1) Structure at Jordan Cove will NOT meet DLCD 2002 Tsunami zone reqrmts (Appealed decision of county & LUBA of ignoring DLCD 2002 engineering reqrmts).

2) UNSafe situation of LNG ships having a known 2 mile hazard burn zone & traveling within a 1/2 mile of populated area here.

3) California & many areas have rejected LNG for being a air polluter.

4) LNG is 2X more expensive then natural gas used today by Oregon citizens.

5) How Oregon citizens will be FORCED to sell their land to foreign investors.

6) How explosion in Appomattox County, VA could happen here & how explosion at Jordan Cove structure or LNG ship would be MUCH worse (Miles instead yards).

7) How LNG ship will have negative effect on fishing boats & NEW Airport flights.

8) How no local will qualify for any of the jobs at Jordan Cove.

This LNG SCAM is not worth the little tax money collected from vs HUGE risks involved! Every poll taken & even Oregon's Dept of Energy says NO to this SCAM!

Citizen Cane wrote on Oct 11, 2008 8:58 AM:

The link to the web site does not work!

I am in full support of taking back our Rights to vote on the LNG proposal!!

Right on to you Mr. Bishop, you ROCK


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