Teen Idol: Emotions ran high for two families

By Chip Dombrowski, Entertainment Editor
Thursday, September 18, 2008 | 25 comment(s)

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It’s been a rough summer for a lot of people involved with Bay Area Teen Idol.

Both at the competition’s weekly events and in comments posted by readers on The World’s Web site, insults and accusations have been hurled in every direction: at contestants, judges, parents, organizers and bystanders.

What adults have said to each other is part of the drama, but what’s most troubling, the various parties agree, is the way some of those adults have treated the young contestants.

“There’s been rudeness going on between some of the contestants and their families,” said Gary Brink, a member of the Teen Idol board whose responsibilities include handling the contests’ thorny issues. “It’s common when there’s any kind of competing. Everyone wants their family member to win. People go beyond reason sometimes.”

The contest is intended to provide drug-, alcohol- and tobacco-free activities and a positive environment for teenagers in Coos County during the summer. This year there were 17 contestants, almost all of whom are between 13 and 15 years old.

Though Brink said he didn’t think the problems this year were much different from previous years, others have noticed an uptick.

“It’s been more emotional than I remember it,” said Judy McMakin, a Teen Idol board member representing the Coos County Commission on Children and Families, one of the contest sponsors.

The Teen Idol board met individually with the four finalists and their parents last week to discuss those issues ahead of Saturday’s final.

“I was really encouraged by the positive attitude they had about the final,” Brink said. “We’re not anticipating any need for security.”

While organizers are hopeful the peace they’ve achieved will hold, the stakes will be higher in the final when a winner will be declared. The acrimony started the first week of the competition in mid-July. Nothing was at stake besides a weekly score, but the problems intensified as the contest went on.

Brink and others involved with Teen Idol tend to use vague terms that avoid placing blame, though he acknowledged the conflict has involved the two leading contestants, Alyssa Birrer and Star Moralez, and their mothers, Lisa Boyle and Tammi Hancock, as well as Star’s grandparents.

But spreading the blame equally is unfair, Boyle contends, when some are more to blame than others.

“The truth is that Alyssa has been heckled, insulted, called names, (some vulgar), and otherwise tormented by another contestant’s parents since the first day of the competition and probably before,” Boyle wrote in an e-mail last month.

Around the same time, Moralez also complained in an interview: “I felt some things weren’t fair and some people were really rude.”

Without witnessing each incident, organizers have had a hard time sorting it out.

One incident is not subject to dispute. On Aug. 7, Hancock heckled Birrer during a performance with remarks caught on tape by contest videographer Dennis Guevara. After giving what was widely considered her best performance ever, Birrer left the stage in tears.

The following week contest officials announced the presence of security personnel at the Egyptian Theatre and warned the audience anyone found heckling would be removed.

Hancock could not be reached for comment, and Moralez said her mother didn’t want to be interviewed.

Hancock has since apologized — at least to organizers at the recent meeting, Brink said.

“We have tried our best to address the issues that have been raised,” Brink said.

But because the board’s meetings with the families were separate, there was no direct contact between them.

“They haven’t apologized to us,” Boyle said Wednesday, though she added that she is eager for the issue to drop. “I just want all the girls to do well.”

For her part, Moralez said she’s never understood why there was any bad blood between her and Birrer or their families.

“I hate that they think that I hate them, because I don’t,” she said.

Moralez said she’s occasionally made efforts to be friendly to Birrer but they haven’t worked out, and eventually she gave up.

“I think the best way to prevent any confrontation is to avoid it,” Boyle said.

The conflict has not escaped the attention of the judges.

“This has been such a dramatic year,” judge Kim Handsaker said. ... “I’ve been accused of favoring people on both sides.

“It’s awful when the parents get involved,” she added. “It’s not like they’re competing for a million dollars.”

Judge Barbara Bates said that from her seat in the front row of the theater, she can’t hear a lot of what goes on behind her, but she hears about it later.

“I think it’s sad we can’t focus on the kids and how they’re doing,” Bates said.

Despite the problems, Brink said he doesn’t think the contest has fallen short of its goals.

“This year every single contestant has stuck around and continued to be a part of it after they were eliminated — that speaks to how they feel about it,” he said. “I think if we polled the community, 99 percent would feel it’s one of the most positive things going on, not just in summer, but year-round. It’s a small group that makes issues on the blogs.”

Brink said he quit reading the blogs because it bothered him to see such negative comments directed at 13-, 14- and 15-year-old kids.

Boyle agreed that the overall impact of the contest has been positive, at least for her daughter.

Despite his optimistic outlook, Brink said the board plans to take a more proactive stance next year, holding regular meetings with contestants and parents to prevent problems from developing.

As for this year’s final, Brink said board members would be on hand at the Bay Area Fun Festival to make sure things are running smoothly.

One thing is certain, Handsaker said: “Whoever wins, we’re gonna hear it was the wrong decision.”
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LISTENER wrote on Sep 22, 2008 12:33 PM:

WE WENT TO THE TEEN IDOL COMPITITION ON SAT. AND LISTENED TO THE SINGER AND STARR WAS THE BEST SINGER BY FAR.
THE WINNER HAD A GOOD COUNTRY WESTERN SOUND BUT WAS NOT THE BEST SINGER.
STARR REMINDED ME OF CHER WITH HER ABILITY TO HIT THE LOW AND HIGH NOTES. SHE IS GOOD.

Blah Blah Blah wrote on Sep 22, 2008 8:49 AM:

I am glad this teen idol is over! I am glad Alyssa won... Now next year i don't have to hear her perform every week. She has a good voice bet when she hits her loud long notes she yells them. I believe star has a much better voice

Aaron Johnson wrote on Sep 21, 2008 3:50 PM:

This is ridiculous. As a musician, I can honestly say that there will always be "downers" around. I read someone on here refer to this as "sportsmanship". I think that stuff like that fosters a competitive attitude. Really, how can you get mad and compete over art? I understand it's a competition, but competing over art is so subjective. Who is a better painter, Picasso or Jackson Pollack? Louis Armstrong or Miles Davis? Mozart or Bach? The Beatles or the Grateful Dead? Martha Graham or Mikhail Barishnykov? Stop being negative and enjoy what these young people have to offer!

I feel sorry for girls wrote on Sep 19, 2008 6:08 PM:

These comments about the contestants and their families doing this and that to each other must be very embarassing to these girls. This is too bad for them and they are just young girls, don't keep this up naming names and making this whole thing a bad experience for them.
They cannot help what the parents do.

for geez wrote on Sep 19, 2008 5:10 PM:

There is one here. The World has a forum. Poke around for it. Join it. Start a thread about the Teen Idol competition.

geez wrote on Sep 19, 2008 4:17 PM:

know what i am tired of comments not being approved..everyone on here is adults at least i think so why cant we say what we feel or is freedom of speech no longer an option? i said earlier heckling and meanness happen during a competition its only a natural part of life kids might as well get used to it and prepare for adulthood. if this message even gets approved huh..last one didn't maybe there should be an opinion blog somewhere that people can say what they really feel without it being not posted.

REALLY wrote on Sep 19, 2008 2:24 PM:

"ANOTHER CONCERNED FAN" is no doubt a part of Lisa's minions of robotic followers.

It was not Star's family that was doing the heckling it was another contestants family. I was there, I saw it.

Star tried to talk to Alyssa at the fair and was snubbed. I saw that too.

I also know that Lisa has tried more than once to get other parents to say that Star was rude. Which she never was. Star has been nice, Alyssa has been snooty.

Lava Lamp wrote on Sep 19, 2008 1:53 PM:

The World link may not post this, if they do great, if they dont, you will never know anyway.

Don't just come down on Star's family, you need to look at Alyssa's family and friends too. They were just as rude to other contestants and parents.

Proud Mom is almost as big a problem as they (Proud Mom) claim the other family is.

Proud Mom is a bad apple no matter what sugar coating she puts on it in here, she is just as responsible for this mess.

Just a thought wrote on Sep 19, 2008 10:00 AM:

I have an idea that would probably work for parents and grandparents that 'want so bad for their child to win that they show BAD sportmanship and down other contestants"...it would be to eliminate any child that belongs to these people. I know, I know, that would not be fair to the child, BUT these people probably would not do anything bad if they thought their child would be eliminated, so it would probably solve the problem.
I DO HAVE TO ADD THAT I PERSONALLY DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN THIS SITUATION, ONLY WHAT I READ IN THE PAPER.
If this article is true, how embarassing it must be to the children whose parents and grandparents did these things. I really feel sorry for them.

Proud Mom wrote on Sep 19, 2008 8:38 AM:

Don't forget that Destyni is an excellent little actress who also plays soccer...

I have said it time and again...It's not about winning! Alyssa did not win last year, we have never said anything about it! I really don't expect her to win this year, either.

All I ask for is fairness and respect. If that makes me an idiot parent, so be it. My "conflict" and /or "squabbling" has only been about trying to stop the harassment of my daughter, nothing more.

Honestly, neither Alyssa or I even want to go on Saturday. We have both wanted her to quit many times this summer, it is clear that we should have done so...that might have gotten the point across that it has nothing to do with whether she wins or not.

Coos Bay Kid wrote on Sep 19, 2008 8:15 AM:

This whole situation is a joke. Hire security to control the crowd/hecklers. Throw their butt out of the auditorium if they continue this ridiculous behavior. If people can't conduct themselves in an appropriate manner then they have no place in society. What is wrong with you people? Parents HAVE to be examples of good sportsmanship. Take a look in the mirror and apologize to your community. This whole situation sends a horrible message to our kids. Grow up or stay home.

pril wrote on Sep 19, 2008 7:48 AM:

hey dad if your girl loves to sing I'm pretty sure the heckling that goes on at Teen Idol is tame compared to what happens to everyone else who goes on stage for a living. May as well get used to it now. Think of it as building immunity to an allergy... The world (not the paper) is unkind to artists of all stripes.

ohhh waaaaaaaaaa wrote on Sep 19, 2008 7:36 AM:

honestly i havent seen the idols so i am not affiliated with anyon. i am sick of everyone protecting todays kids are way to sheltered from life i have taught my children that life isnt always fair. so someone heckles you while on stage not everyone will always like you.ignore it. also maybe the ones doing it should be kicked out as it could ruin the shows for people seeing it.yes competitions do get ugly thats what happens when you compete, if you can't take it quit. thats how it was when i was in school. i think today too many parents want to step in and not let their kids deal with it how do you think this will help out in the real world. an example is giving all kids trophies for competing even if they lose..please lets all be fair so kids can grow up and not know how to deal with life. . grow up. and while i disagree with families doing so(behaving rudely), i disagree with the mom saying the world should censor comments this is an opinion blog and everyone is entitled to theirs..at least i think we are still a free speech country.

Opie wrote on Sep 19, 2008 6:48 AM:

oops I think I said Tammi's mom, but I meant Star's mom. Anyway, carry on.

Opie wrote on Sep 19, 2008 6:45 AM:

Tammi's mom apologized. Why don't you all just kick her a little harder. Jeez. What a bunch of pit bulls.

marty crouse wrote on Sep 18, 2008 10:37 PM:

I can hardly believe what's been said in tonights paper about the 'Teen Idol' competition! Are you folks at the World talking about the same function I've been a part of since June when 'Teen Idol' contestants began rehearsals?

Each of "our" young people bring a wonderful, unique energy to the program. Did you know that Star is an honor student, Alyssa is a dancer at the Opry and a soccer player, Meriah is singing for the first time this year...I choose to enjoy their uniqueness and praise their efforts!

Most of the committee are folks who have decided to take the "high road" by not giving energy to the "bad stuff". They listen to complaints, criticism and occasionaly compliments in the hope of making this a a more positive experience for those who choose to participate in the future..


Parents, grandparents family and friends...put aside differences and be
a part of the lives of some very special young people who have invested many hours of time and energy to entertain YOU this Saturday at the Bay Area Fun Festival

Reality Check wrote on Sep 18, 2008 10:21 PM:

We need to remember that these teens are supposed to be role models, and that is part of the package. Obviously, the parents (and other family/community members) should model good behavior as well. Either way, the kids lose. How humiliating for them! Arrogance at any point of a singer's career can end it, and arrogant parents can have just as devastating an effect.
Everybody likes to win, and yes, that's part of competition. But again, this isn't for a million dollars!! At this stage of the game, they need to be grateful that they have a stage to learn on, and feedback to help them along the way. If it hurts their feelings sometimes, good! That's reality. If more people were honest, people would learn much sooner, and wouldn't have to wait for the Simon Cowell's of the world to tell them. Let the kids be responsible for their own successes and failures. It's part of life. Personally, I think that if the kids were involved in it, they should be disqualified. It ruins the environment for everyone else involved, and that defeats the purpose of the whole endeavor. They could be jeopardizing the future of the program!!

Just An Observer wrote on Sep 18, 2008 7:50 PM:

In my day we had no Teen Idol. Some kids got drunk and stoned. Some others played sports. Yet others worked at jobs. It was "just life" and somehow the vast majority of us survived without a bunch of emotional scars coming our way like today's kids have to face. I'm very sorry to see how far things have degenerated despite the "no drugs, alcohol, tobacco" selling point. Maybe the parents should go get smashed at their favorite place and let the kids do their thing wherever for more happiness...LOL!

Coquille wrote on Sep 18, 2008 7:17 PM:

We have followed the contest and find it hard to believe all that has gone on. Each one of the kids has been great and it takes so much to get up there that it is a shame that some of the girls that are quiet and sweet get over looked. I guess that the squeak gets the grease. What a shame when you had and have some left that would be a great example for teen idol, but it seems they don't have a chance. It has to be Alyssa or Star because we don't know what would happen with their parents. A shame!

Another concerned fan wrote on Sep 18, 2008 6:49 PM:

I have been there...I changed seats because of Star's family heckling Alyssa and others onstage. It happened MORE than once.
The only conflict I have seen is that Alyssa's family begged, week after week, for someone to make the insults stop.
Alyssa's family has also had to report truly nasty stuff written about Alyssa in this comment forum.
I saw them congratulate Star and her mom...until they began calling Alyssa names.
I hope the organizers WILL have things under control at the finale...it is the least they can do after all that has taken place.

Andrew wrote on Sep 18, 2008 4:10 PM:

In any sport and /or contest where there are kids playing and/or singing,and parents are there, there will be some of those parents who just have to show their 'behind' for all to see. It is amazing to see what they do or say.
Maybe those in charge of such activities need to prohibit some of those parents from being there.
There is NO EXCUSE for it!!!!!

Just a Dads opinion... wrote on Sep 18, 2008 1:16 PM:

How SAD is this? My young daughter loves to sing and has won several talent contests ovet the last few years. After reading this do you think I would subject her this? Do you think she would want to be part of this? How do the organizers let this behavior go unchecked and how do those idiot parents look at themselves in the mirror?

Proud Mom wrote on Sep 18, 2008 1:15 PM:

I wish that we could go into the finale with a more positive tone for these kids... As I have said before, Alyssa competed in Teen Idol when there was no hope of her winning because of a vacation. If she had won last year, she never would have given "the best ever" performance this year. It is not about winning!!!

All I have asked of anyone in this contest is that they treat ALL the kids as if they were their own. Applaud them all, every week, no matter what.

Perhaps next year, the World can try to keep any personal insults directed at a contestant off the blogs?

I don't care if you don't like Alyssa's singing, not everyone will. Just please, do not insult HER.

Youth Supporter wrote on Sep 18, 2008 12:41 PM:

I agree with you A Grandma - these kids have had an especially troublesome year and for them to stand up on stage and perform so well is amazing. There's many adults who couldn't do that! I agree with Gary Brink - the more you read the posted comments on the Worldlink.com the more you realize there is a vocal anonymous minority who like to stir up trouble and make outrageous claims, especially against anyone in our community trying to do something positive. I applaud Dombrowski for covering this issue so impartially and providing a clear picture into a murky situation. At least the contestants won't be dealing with this for much longer.

A Grandma wrote on Sep 18, 2008 11:32 AM:

I sure hope that all of you parents that are involved in this fiasco are really proud of yourselves! I cannot believe that you can be so juvenile that you will conduct yourselves in such a manner that you make a little girl run off stage in tears! To the kids, I am SO,SO proud of you all for standing up there through ALL this adversity and still be able to belt out these beautiful songs! Hang in there you are all winners in my eyes and maybe just maybe your parents can learn a valuable lesson from YOUR actions! Good Luck in the finals!


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