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Major Beef wrote on Sep 14, 2008 9:32 PM:
By effective leadership you must mean the board allowing Dr. Hansen so much "freedom" that SWOCC is now borrowing from actual lending institutions every month to make payroll. A feat that has never happened in the history of the institution, and all the while SWOCC is coming off a year in which more money has been brought in than ever before. Record revenue, and yet the college is broke. For someone who works at the college you seem to know very little of the situation Dr. Hansen has put it in. However, you need only look to many of the vendors who provide their products or services to the college, and then ask how many of them are more than 30 days in arrears. You will find they are many.
SOCC Employee wrote on Sep 9, 2008 6:29 PM:
It is also the practice of most large companies for the board of directors to allow a CEO to effectively lead without interference from middle management. Furthermore, common business practice also dictates the elimination or appropriate assimilation of former middle management because they are typically part of the problem in most business paradigms because they WON”T be led or inspired. Qualifications and experience do count in a real-world experience as well. In business, when a middle manager or employee becomes a problem, they are fired. Trump style. This is why employees do not dictate whom their manager or president is in the world of corporate reality. Do you really think that you and the rest of your rabble would survive the business practices you alluded to in your post?
Interested Observer wrote on Sep 9, 2008 10:57 AM:
wow, this is not a gender issue, or an employee whining issue. This is a issue about a president that is mismanaging funds, lying to the public, practicing unethical accounting, and for the first time at the college, received a vote of no confidence from all three employee groups.
The faculty and staff are doing the right thing by trying to protect and serve the students, something Dr. Hansen has failed miserably at just as she failed at her last position.
The board needs to step up and relieve Dr. Hansen of her duties as president. Unfortunately, I don't believe this board has the courage to make that difficult decision.
The faculty and staff are doing the right thing by trying to protect and serve the students, something Dr. Hansen has failed miserably at just as she failed at her last position.
The board needs to step up and relieve Dr. Hansen of her duties as president. Unfortunately, I don't believe this board has the courage to make that difficult decision.
Major Beef wrote on Sep 9, 2008 8:47 AM:
To "SOCC EMPLOYEE" or should I say Hansen plant? Either way, it is the practice of a number of large businesses to include in the evaluation of the manager or president of a company, the employees "opinions and perceptions" for purposes of establishing an opinion on their effectiveness to lead. It does not matter how qualified you are, how good you are at your job, or how well you believe you are doing, if you can't effectively lead or inspire those who you are charged with, then you have failed as a leader and should be replaced.
Youre Wrong wrote on Sep 9, 2008 8:16 AM:
Major Beef, or Clucking Chicken, whatever. You're right I dropped an apostrophe not once, but twice. I never said I had a problem learning, but being challenged and having some sort of a problem are two different things. I would hope you'd know that. Is this what I get for trying to take the high road? You're classy.
two cents wrote on Sep 8, 2008 12:10 PM:
"With the exception of a single person (the outgoing VP of Administrative Services), the upper echelon entirely consists of females. This trend seems to be endemic in community colleges across the country."
Same goes for the Coquille School District. ALL upper level echelon are females except the middle school principals and the dean at the HS. And the HS principal' brother is on the school board and is the current Mayor. No men in the main office.
Maybe Judy and Diann are getting together to plot the demise of their relative schools..........
Same goes for the Coquille School District. ALL upper level echelon are females except the middle school principals and the dean at the HS. And the HS principal' brother is on the school board and is the current Mayor. No men in the main office.
Maybe Judy and Diann are getting together to plot the demise of their relative schools..........
SOCC Employee wrote on Sep 6, 2008 10:39 AM:
to Concerned Community Member: The board is not taking action because there is no proof of any wrong doing by the President. Wouldn't you be more concerned if the board let her go for no reason other than employees opinions and perceptions of wrong doing?
Maybe we should put our thinking caps on and try to figure out why these employees would be upset with her. Could it be some of them bought into others opinions and perceptions without proof?
I am wondering how you would feel if this happened to you at your job. Would you be okay with being dismissed because other employees had complaints about you that they never bothered to speak with you about?
Although your concern is appreciated, it is misdirected.
Maybe we should put our thinking caps on and try to figure out why these employees would be upset with her. Could it be some of them bought into others opinions and perceptions without proof?
I am wondering how you would feel if this happened to you at your job. Would you be okay with being dismissed because other employees had complaints about you that they never bothered to speak with you about?
Although your concern is appreciated, it is misdirected.
Concerned Community Member wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:15 PM:
Maybe the board needs to be replaced since they can not seem to make a decision. If all three groups vote and ask for help what else does the board need? A note from the president? Come on what are you waiting for??? I think the board is poorly mismanaging this situation and should not be allowed to continue to act in this fashion without recourse.
SOCC STUDENT wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:51 AM:
I feel it's unfair that programs are cut, teachers are cut and we still end up paying more for class's and lab fees. Yes there is a new softball feild and soccer field off OAK ST. to give our athelet'smore place to practice and allow the public a place to play.And whats with public safty or as i heard other students call them "2.5" lol. Treating those of legal drinking age and are responsable,like childran? But i understand about the suplying to minors but their is some that just want to relax and have a cold beer before having to dive into six hours of homework and hit a night class in-between that.GIve me a break! It's crazy and they wonder why so many kids or legal age students trying to save money by living in the dorms move out. Thank about that one!Don't some of you like to come home and sit back and have an " ICE COLD ONE!" I know I do..
What wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:41 AM:
Some of these comments indicate to me that some people aren't even veiling the sexist root of the anti-Hansen movement. What's worse yet for them is she's a woman they can't bully or snow into doing what they want her to do. As for the "good old girls" club, I have every confidence the most qualified people were chosen for their jobs. This isn't the 1950s so you need to dump that mindset and, yes, there are women out there who can do the job as well as or better than any man.
I'm a man who's not intimidated by strong, capable women.
How about you?
I'm a man who's not intimidated by strong, capable women.
How about you?
SOCC Employee wrote on Sep 4, 2008 7:27 PM:
To Facts, Objective Observer, Outside Observer, and the other SOCC EMPLOYEE:
Or should I say Patty, Patty, Patty, tsk. If you are so interested in merit over gender, then why are you saying "girls club"? Are you insinuating that all of the members of the so called "girls club" are in their positions because of their gender? And what about your own position? Gender or merit?
Seems to me you not only want Judith gone but anyone who supports her to be gone also. Thanks for proving my point. We need a review of conduct of those who are complaining.
Or should I say Patty, Patty, Patty, tsk. If you are so interested in merit over gender, then why are you saying "girls club"? Are you insinuating that all of the members of the so called "girls club" are in their positions because of their gender? And what about your own position? Gender or merit?
Seems to me you not only want Judith gone but anyone who supports her to be gone also. Thanks for proving my point. We need a review of conduct of those who are complaining.
SOCC Employee wrote on Sep 4, 2008 7:04 PM:
It appears that another person is posting under SOCC employee. I did the first post but I must have hit a nerve with someone because there are 3 additional posts under SOCC employee that are not from me. Wow, just another example of the character of those who are against Dr. Hansen. Twist the info, silence anyone who would speak out against their plot to get Dr. Hansen out of the college.
I am not turning a blind eye but there is nothing behind these claims made about Dr. Hansen. After 7 months not one person has brought anything to the table but psycho babble.
I am not turning a blind eye but there is nothing behind these claims made about Dr. Hansen. After 7 months not one person has brought anything to the table but psycho babble.
Outside Observer wrote on Sep 4, 2008 3:42 PM:
SOCC Employee is making an assumption that the college was a mess when
Dr. Hansen arrived. The only one who is claiming this are Dr. Hansen and her club of girls. She has successfully railroaded (restructured) all of the financial staff and advisors that stood up to her out of their jobs when she arbitrarily made decisions. I have no respect for the woman.
Dr. Hansen arrived. The only one who is claiming this are Dr. Hansen and her club of girls. She has successfully railroaded (restructured) all of the financial staff and advisors that stood up to her out of their jobs when she arbitrarily made decisions. I have no respect for the woman.
outside observer wrote on Sep 4, 2008 3:39 PM:
The question I want answered is why Dr. Hansen is not removed by the board when all three bodies on campus have given a no confidence vote. I do believe it's a "girls club" environment and Mr. Meyers is a yes man. I am a woman who feels jobs should be awarded by merit not by gender.
SOCC EMPLOYEE wrote on Sep 3, 2008 6:57 PM:
We spoke up for the SAKE OF THE STUDENTS, if the board doesn't step up and help us out the college won't be around much longer. This is not a case of personality conflicts or the good ol' days I wasn't an employee then.
SOCC EMPLOYEE wrote on Sep 3, 2008 6:57 PM:
We spoke up for the SAKE OF THE STUDENTS, if the board doesn't step up and help us out the college won't be around much longer. This is not a case of personality conflicts or the good ol' days I wasn't an employee then. This is about the actions Dr. Hansen preformed anyone who is unwilling to see the truth is turning a blind eye on purpose.
SOCC EMPLOYEE wrote on Sep 3, 2008 6:56 PM:
We spoke up for the SAKE OF THE STUDENTS, if the board doesn't step up and help us out the college won't be around much longer. This is not a case of personality conflicts or the good ol' days I wasn't an employee then. This is about the actions Dr. Hansen performed anyone who is unwilling to see the truth is turning a blind eye on purpose.
SOCC EMPLOYEE wrote on Sep 3, 2008 6:49 PM:
I was not here in the good ol' boy days I would just like this college to be back to a place that stands for the high level of excellence it used to be. Anyone who is unwilling to see that is blindly turning there back on an instition that deserves so much more. I can not ethically pretend like the devistation around campus has not taken place. It is not a matter of everyone just getting along peaceable or personality conflicts, the college needs help and the board needs to step up and provide it. If not the college will not be here for the students much longer, the employees of the college have been speaking up for the SAKE OF THE STUDENTS. To be honest it really hurts to be criticized for that.
Facts wrote on Sep 3, 2008 3:18 PM:
158 negative complaints out of roughly 200 employees? Judy, Judy, Judy Shame on you! How do you look people in the eyes? The school is too fractured to get well untill yoiu get her and her good ol girls club out of there!
Objective Observer wrote on Sep 3, 2008 12:55 PM:
Interestingly, the situation at SOCC is quite far from the "good ol' boys days".
With the exception of a single person (the outgoing VP of Administrative Services), the upper echelon entirely consists of females. This trend seems to be endemic in community colleges across the country.
Personally, I would prefer to see more gender balance in the leadership. Of course, someone is likely to argue that the Board of Education is currently dominated by males. I suppose that we will have to wait to see if that make-up persists.
With the exception of a single person (the outgoing VP of Administrative Services), the upper echelon entirely consists of females. This trend seems to be endemic in community colleges across the country.
Personally, I would prefer to see more gender balance in the leadership. Of course, someone is likely to argue that the Board of Education is currently dominated by males. I suppose that we will have to wait to see if that make-up persists.
C wrote on Sep 3, 2008 11:45 AM:
Sharri,
I entirely agree but as a recent graduate from SOCC, I can tell you that I never once felt that the college was about me or my education. I had some great, encouraging instructors but when it came to dealing with anyone administrative, I never got the feeling that I was a priority. Sure, they project that image but when it comes down to it, it's more about the money than it is about the students. I had to guide myself a lot of the time because it seemed like half the staff there just didn't seem to care.
I entirely agree but as a recent graduate from SOCC, I can tell you that I never once felt that the college was about me or my education. I had some great, encouraging instructors but when it came to dealing with anyone administrative, I never got the feeling that I was a priority. Sure, they project that image but when it comes down to it, it's more about the money than it is about the students. I had to guide myself a lot of the time because it seemed like half the staff there just didn't seem to care.
Sharri wrote on Sep 2, 2008 8:12 PM:
The people at the college need to get over all this. Fall term is starting and all the students are relying on you to guide them towards their hopes and dreams. Do not make this about Dr. Hansen or the people for or against her. This college exists for the students and community it serves. Please show us some respect by working your differences out peacefully. Anyone one who is unwilling to do this should leave for the sake of the students.
SOCC Employee wrote on Sep 2, 2008 6:54 PM:
Board Member Lonny Anderson sent an e-mail out about the OSBA "review of college operations" and The World Newspaper and some bad employees twisted this until it became a focus about the College President
Maybe this "review" should have focused on the conduct of some board members who crossed boundaries, about managers who have little or no ethics, about why this college was such a mess when Dr. Hansen arrived here and who allowed it to become that way?
Dr. Hansen did what the community, the SOCC Board of Ed, the staff and students expected of her. Some want it back the way it was in the good ol' boy days. Gee, I wonder why?
Maybe this "review" should have focused on the conduct of some board members who crossed boundaries, about managers who have little or no ethics, about why this college was such a mess when Dr. Hansen arrived here and who allowed it to become that way?
Dr. Hansen did what the community, the SOCC Board of Ed, the staff and students expected of her. Some want it back the way it was in the good ol' boy days. Gee, I wonder why?
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