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want to know wrote on Sep 30, 2008 9:52 PM:
Former Musician wrote on Sep 27, 2008 3:18 PM:
Brett Howard wrote on Sep 24, 2008 10:13 PM:
Becca wrote on Sep 20, 2008 11:01 PM:
I have not heard of any of that before. I highly doubt everything you say to be true.
However, if that is the case, and it is true, then I think that the Board of Directors are at fault as well. Should they not be responsible for the programs finances? Why didn't they know what had been going on for years? Are they not the ones running the program also?
How quickly people point the finger at only my parents. I think the board should be investigated.
John 8:7
".... Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone..."
Romans 3:23
"For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.."
:)
Becca
Former musician wrote on Sep 19, 2008 10:29 PM:
Patti Norman wrote on Sep 19, 2008 11:45 AM:
You and all of us are very proud of your parents and I am sure because of lab bands beginnings you showed up with mom and dad for 99% of the meetings we had, that you too have been blessed with music. People who truly do know Gregg and Patti are the ones whose lives have been greatly changed. Being or having a child in lab band taught us to inner act with other people, respect individuals who have different opinions on music, things can happen when everyone is involved and of course structure and committment in our lives.
I will always love you guys for what you have done with the community..
God Bless
Becca Young wrote on Sep 18, 2008 6:20 PM:
Just so you know, my parents DID want the board of directors to help them out, and in fact it was brought up months ago. And in case there is any confusion on the "non-profit" theory, just so you know, Pastor's and other church staff get paid and churches are also 501C3 non-profit organizations. I know this because I work for a church. So, don't think that because it's a 501C3 that there can't be paid positions.
Just to clear up any confusion, Lab Band was originally started at the old Southbound Sound downtown Coos Bay when the store used to be across from the Fire Station. The store then moved to North Bend where Lab Band continued, then a short while later moved to the Harding Building at Marshfield.
Mrs. Norman is right when she said that my parents gave SO much out of their pocket to make this program work.
Thank you all so much for your support. We know who you are :)
another person wrote on Sep 18, 2008 9:26 AM:
A person wrote on Sep 18, 2008 4:06 AM:
It's too bad the public is kept in the dark about what happened...I think a lot of people's opinions would be different...
Patti Norman wrote on Sep 17, 2008 2:47 PM:
My son was one of the first band members and this was the opportunity of a life time. Greg and his wife struggled to get things off the ground. Greg and his wife wanted a board of members to keep track and to help with the organization of this wonderful band.
Greg and Patti were the ones who put their hard earned money into this program for kids. It kept my son off the streets. They needed money? I came from their pockets. I, as a board member,
knew where every nickel and dime went to.
When Lab-band started going to venues that offered to pay for the kids. Everyone knew it..No secrets. No hidden Ccosts and no "cover up" expenses for anythingl. They do not steal from their own pockets.
Apparently someone has a issue with this wonderful organization that maybe their child didn't qualify?..didn't meet the expections of the program?..
Brett Howard wrote on Sep 17, 2008 1:55 AM:
Lad rippen wrote on Sep 15, 2008 9:24 PM:
interested Party wrote on Sep 15, 2008 9:19 PM:
Becca Young wrote on Sep 13, 2008 12:47 AM:
Please, PLEASE stop saying negative, hurtful things about MY family. It sucks and it hurts. Enough is enough. Do you not realize that your rude opinions hurt more than Greg and Patti? Have you no respect for them or the rest of my family?
I sincerely ask that you keep anything that will cause more pain to my family, to yourselves.
This entire situation could have easily stayed between the Lab Band board of directors, and my parents.
Your opinions are in no way needed to determine an outcome of the situation. So PLEASE, get the facts and keep your mouth shut!!!
Please :)
-Becca
musician wrote on Aug 31, 2008 8:36 PM:
a new label for yourself. No one feels worse than the person with the gambling problem. We
cannot do or say anything that will change the facts. All the opinions that may show up on this site are really of no value.
Greg had a huge ego ..the lab band fed that ego.
The Casino is one of the worst things to happen to this community. Because we let this happen we can all share the blame.,, What did you think would happen..flowers and sunshine???
JUST WAITING wrote on Aug 30, 2008 12:05 PM:
moonpenny wrote on Aug 28, 2008 8:27 AM:
God Bless you Patti and Greg. It's going to be okay.
coos bay native wrote on Aug 27, 2008 11:54 AM:
Sandman wrote on Aug 26, 2008 11:43 PM:
Koree wrote on Aug 26, 2008 7:08 PM:
Charlotte wrote on Aug 26, 2008 9:24 AM:
The slap in the face is to all of those who donated their time and money to the program.
Sandman wrote on Aug 25, 2008 11:46 PM:
Not News wrote on Aug 25, 2008 5:28 PM:
A lawsuit alleging breach of fiduciary duty could be brought by a donor, a concerned citizen, or the Attorney General. In short, this type of lawsuit alleges that the board of directors is not appropriately using and protecting the assets and resources of the nonprofit organization.
Don't think for a second that the Board is not aware of this, and if they aren't, they need to get some legal representation on their Board.
music lover wrote on Aug 25, 2008 1:22 PM:
this is a crime - they need to be charged with the crimes - this will show children (and other theives) that this is just WRONG - kids need a future - i am afraid now that i will never allow my kids to join this type of program since the passion that seems to keep this program of Greg's going is a passion of making money from others.
Wrong - just wrong. HOw do you sleep?
Lad Rippen wrote on Aug 25, 2008 7:55 AM:
Frustrated wrote on Aug 23, 2008 7:28 PM:
I know from personal experience that Greg and Patti never had any second agenda to the Lab Band program.... they NEVER would have started this program to help their music store, or to use the kids to make money off of them. From the beginning their only intention was to give to kids and help them through music. I know this because I am their daughter and I have seen the sacrifices my parents have made to make this program work.
For those of you who have something negative to say about MY family, please get the facts and keep your mouth shut!
Swinging wrote on Aug 23, 2008 5:45 PM:
supporting the kids means also grooming them as customers of the store. Do I see a conflict of interest here, or a convenient merger of volunteering and business?
Disqusted Parent wrote on Aug 23, 2008 2:06 PM:
When the Board won't let parents discuss their views; when the Board tries to hide things; when the Board tells The World that meetings didn't happen when the did; when the Board is extremely rude to parents at said meeting; that is the reason things are now being discussed in a public forum.
Devin wrote on Aug 23, 2008 10:47 AM:
Facts Please wrote on Aug 22, 2008 8:09 PM:
Why Bring It Up wrote on Aug 22, 2008 5:25 PM:
Paul Vandervort wrote on Aug 22, 2008 5:23 PM:
Bradbury wrote on Aug 22, 2008 3:36 PM:
Larry Reiber wrote on Aug 22, 2008 10:24 AM:
As It Is wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:06 PM:
KarmaBabyKarma wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:25 PM:
MusicMajor wrote on Aug 21, 2008 7:58 PM:
After the numbers are revealed we will revisit the issue of the Lab Band motto "RESPECT". The Youngs have exploited the talented children in this community for personal financial gain for years. Every child arriving at the doors of Lab Band is already a trained musician, taught in our public school system band programs and private lessons from attentive parents, the Youngs used this for profit. Has anyone seen the new graphic on the Lab Band CD? Two swinging handcuffs and the title is "Caught in the Act" Prophetic!!!
Carol Motts wrote on Aug 21, 2008 6:46 PM:
Lab Band Graduate wrote on Aug 21, 2008 6:38 PM:
2. If the Youngs are found to be innocent by the district attorney, then they should be reinstated as directors and the program will carry on as before.
3. If the Youngs are found to be guilty by the district attorney, then there isn't a parent in the world that would want them teaching their children...what kind of example would that be to young people?
4. The board hasn't had a fun time investigating this situation. Remember, THEIR kids are in the program, too, and they don't want to see it end. They could have just turned their heads the other way, but instead, they started asking questions and found some financial discrepencies. To not do this would have been irresponsible.
5. Even the Dali Lama has an accountant.
Concerned Alumnus wrote on Aug 21, 2008 3:02 PM:
1) Regardless of the Young's enormous hearts, a crime has possibly been commited. There are no circumstances that mitigate the commission of a crime of this nature.
2) Greg Young is one of the best teachers of young people in this country and cannot be simply replaced. Anyone stepping into his position will have gigantic shoes to fill.
3) No organization can succeed (or fail) solely due to one man and one woman; everyone has to do their part. Will this organization suffer from the possible loss of Greg? Yes. Will it fail because of it? Not if those remaining don't lose faith in the ideals that the Young's fostered.
4) This has nothing to do with our school music programs. Period.
I would hope that we as community members can keep the Young's contributions in mind before we make any judgements as to their character. However, if they are held liable for wrong-doing, let's urge fair punishment and a chance at redemption and future success.
Concerned Alumnus wrote on Aug 21, 2008 2:51 PM:
1) This has nothing to do with our school music programs. Period.
2) Regardless of Greg and Patti Young's enormous hearts, an illegal act was possibly commited. This cannot be ignored.
3) Greg Young is one of the best teachers of young people in this country and one that cannot simply be replaced. Anyone stepping into his position for any reason will have gigantic shoes to fill.
4) A program of this nature cannot succeed (or fail) through the efforts of one man and one woman. It takes all involved doing their part. This program can continue if those remaining do not lose faith.
I would hope that we as community members can see that an enormous amount of good has been done in the past 16 years by Greg and Patti Young. If a crime has been commited, consequences must be assigned. In the meantime, let us treat the Youngs as we would want to be treated were we in their position: with dignity and respect.
prudent wrote on Aug 21, 2008 2:31 PM:
Intersted Party wrote on Aug 21, 2008 1:14 PM:
Rebecca C. wrote on Aug 21, 2008 12:18 PM:
concerned wrote on Aug 21, 2008 11:50 AM:
I also find it interesting that noone from the lab band program ever gives the schools any credit for sending Greg these great players in the first place.
Lad Rippen wrote on Aug 21, 2008 10:50 AM:
competitions. Maybe they did make a mistake. But to say they should have charges filed against them. Good grief that sounds like a bitter angry person who doesn't see the good in anyone. They have devoted all of their time and money to this band. They would work full time and spend most of their nights at Lab Band. Do you think you could find anyone one else with that dedication on a volunteer basis? Good luck with that. They are trying to survive literally. I love Greg and Patti very much. Thanks to everyone who supports them and isn't throwing the first stone. Shame on you who are.
Just my twocents wrote on Aug 21, 2008 10:36 AM:
Local band directors do donate their time and money; they have been doing it for decades. They don't get the lauds or the credit because they are 'public servants'.
Sean wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:17 AM:
Tirzah Bauer wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:12 AM:
I implore anyone reading this to stop this atrocity and help the Young’s in any way you can. It’s time to repay all the help that they’ve done for you.
swordblade wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:09 AM:
Tirzah Bauer wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:07 AM:
I know that the Youngs have been going through a difficult time. I expected Lab Band to unite and come to their aid, but instead I hear you accuse them and take them away from what is most precious to them. What kind of example does that set for kids? What kind of example does that set for the community? You can’t put a dollar number to the amount of good they have put into the people’s and community’s lives. Instead of throwing that accusatory stone, take a good look at your own life and it’s mistakes. Forgive and HELP those desperately in need of it.
I implore anyone reading this to stop this atrocity and help the Young’s in any way you can. It’s time to repay all the help that they’ve done for you.
Linda Kissinger wrote on Aug 21, 2008 7:10 AM:
Brenda Salzano wrote on Aug 20, 2008 9:03 PM:
I also know this, I love them both, I love what they have done for my daughter and I when we needed it most, and I will stand by them. Nothing anyone says will darken their hearts for the children and they never asked for a dime.
Band Parent wrote on Aug 20, 2008 8:51 PM:
Ynot wrote on Aug 20, 2008 8:39 PM:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-08-20-hospitals-best-worst_N.htm
Agree with This is the best youve got... wrote on Aug 20, 2008 7:45 PM:
I had high hopes for a regime change at the World; I'm very disappointed. (Editor's note: Perhaps a little explanation is in order. First, the Oregonian's story about the tribe is a good one, and I wish we had reported it first. But the reality is, the Oregonian is a fine newspaper with a large, far-ranging news staff. Those reporters work hard to find stories throughout the state, and sometimes they break some local news before a hometown paper does. No local editor likes seeing that happen, but we can't prevent the Oregonian's talented reporters from doing their jobs. Second, the USA Today story is an excellent piece of national journalism, using the Internet to provide searchable local information to every community in the nation. If you read the story, you'll see that it was made possible by exclusive, advance access to new government data. Again, I would love to have reported that information first, but I can't prevent USA Today from breaking national news stories. The World's small staff hustles every day to cover the news that matters to our local readers. But if your standard for success requires that we prevent other journalists from doing good work, then we'll never be able to satisfy you. As for the New Carissa, I'm not going to apologize for covering an ongoing story that our readers care about. Clark Walworth, publisher/editor)
Bruce wrote on Aug 20, 2008 7:38 PM:
concerned wrote on Aug 20, 2008 7:17 PM:
I have to hand it to the group. They are circling the wagons, locking up the information and then accuse anyone who knows anything of spreading rumors. That's pretty smart.
It's a good organization in many ways; Be upfront with the public that has contributed to your organization.
I want it to all be a big mistake, but the information that's out there needs to either be cleared up or dealt with decidedly.
This is not any issue that everyone saying "We Love Greg" will clear up. If you're going to take money from the public, you have to behave like adults and play by the rules.
moonpenny wrote on Aug 20, 2008 6:04 PM:
Thank you! Perhaps The World "news" staff need to read The Oregonian and USA Today to see "just what is in the news". This is shameful. Tis why I dont have a subscription to The World anymore. It's not worth the cost. When you can read a daily paper in 15 minutes, its not worth it. Not to mention its written at 6th grade english level.
reader wrote on Aug 20, 2008 5:46 PM:
Aaron Johnson wrote on Aug 20, 2008 5:03 PM:
This is the best youve got... wrote on Aug 20, 2008 4:07 PM:
Example 1: Coquille Tribe will sanction same-sex marriage by Bill Graves, The Oregonian
The fact that the Coquille Tribe is the 1st federally recognized tribe to recognize same sex marriages isn't headline news? Am I missing something?
Example 2:"Hospital death rates unveiled for first-time comparison" By Steve Sternberg and Anthony DeBarros, USA TODAY-WORSE THAN THE NATIONAL RATE IN 2006-2007- BAY AREA HOSPITAL COOS BAY OR Heart Failure 15.6 11.6 21 99
- Bay Area Hospital rated the 2nd WORSE hospital in the US in terms of Heart Failure mortality rate isn't headline news in our own homegrown newspaper?
And people wonder why this paper has a hard time selling subscriptions...
Darin wrote on Aug 20, 2008 2:18 PM:




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