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Airport leaders answer questions about Horizon pullout, pledge to bring back service to NB

Coos County Airport District board members Mike Lehman, left, and Joe Benetti, along with Airport Director Gary LeTellier talk about the challenges facing the airport.-World Photo by Alex Powers

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The first hint came in February.

Mike Lehman, chairman of the Coos County Airport District Commission, attended a conference where Horizon Air executives indicated North Bend’s air service was at risk of a cutback or even elimination.

“By then we were starting to get an inkling that the industry was scrambling, that a switch to bigger planes was coming,” he said. He sent a letter to Gov. Ted Kulongoski in March, urging state intervention.

The effort was in vain: On June 27, Horizon announced it would end service to the North Bend airport in October. The airline blamed rising fuel costs and its new, larger Q400 airplanes.

Reporter Jo Rafferty interviewed Lehman this week, along with Airport Commissioner Joe Benetti and Executive Director Gary LeTellier.

Key excerpts from that interview follow.

Question: Did you have any idea that switching to a larger aircraft could be a factor in continuing service at the airport?

Lehman: I thought they might cut a couple of flights out of here. It was never on my radar that they were going to pull out of here. In the last eight or nine years we’ve doubled the amount of passengers here.

LeTellier: Even Horizon indicated that up until the early part of June, they were still with us with the Q400s, but the price of fuel just overtook them.

Lehman: Horizon also said they were going to leave some Q200s in place until the fall 2009.

LeTellier: It’s the price of fuel that changed things.

Q: In hindsight, what do you think you might have done differently after you found out about the changes in aircraft?

Benetti: ... If Horizon would have stepped up and said, “You know, this may not work out,” this may have ended up differently.

LeTellier: This isn’t necessarily anybody’s fault. We’ve had a preponderance of events coming together here. The thing is not to wring our hands and say we should have done this, or we should have done that. Horizon’s business plan has failed, but it’s out of their control.

Q: Everyone keeps asking if there was a substantial increase in rent that could have caused Horizon Air to pull out. What was Horizon’s rent before and after the new terminal opened?

LeTellier: In the old terminal, we had hold room space and baggage space that Horizon didn’t pay for. We were going to start charging them in the old terminal but decided to let them wait until we got into the new terminal. But it’s more square footage here. The old terminal, we had about 2,000 square feet. Now we have common space here in the hold room that’s 2,920 square feet and a baggage room that’s 2,225 square feet, also at $12 per square foot.

Horizon and SkyWest pay 20 percent equally and the rest is paid based on the number of passengers that go through. Horizon’s share would be about $30,870. That would be new money for them, but money they were going to have to pay anyway.

For terminal space, Horizon was paying for the same, $12 per square foot for 923 square feet:  $11,076 a year in the old terminal. When Horizon moved over here, they had 974 square foot of space: $11,788 a year. A $600 difference.

Lehman: It’s probably double or triple what they were paying at the old terminal. Their rent went from $1,000 a month to about $2,500 to $3,000, depending on what SkyWest did. If they would have stayed in the old terminal, their rent would have gone from about $1,000 to $2,000.

Q: Was Horizon Air ever asked if it could provide the southbound service? If so, what was the answer?

LeTellier: Yes. They didn’t have a southbound hub. We were interested in San Francisco, but they don’t go to San Francisco. They may have one or two flights there. San Francisco is a United hub. Alaska competes with United. ...

Q: Have you asked SkyWest Airlines if it could provide flights to Portland? If so, what was the answer? What other options have you explored?

Lehman: We have explored every option. SkyWest, other airlines, non-scheduled flights like quasi-charter flights to see what’s out there to provide service to Portland. SkyWest was very clear they’re focused on getting southbound service in and doing it right. State partners, federal partners, we’re exploring everything.

LeTellier: There’s a huge agenda being worked right now behind the scenes. This isn’t going to end badly for us, we’re going to work this issue and end up better than when we started. I can’t tell you when.

Q: How much of the new terminal did taxpayers pay for? How were the costs broken down?

Lehman: No local property tax dollars and no state income tax dollars went into the terminal.

LeTellier: It was paid for with federal entitlement grants through ticket fees. I think it’s an 8- or 9-percent fee now. Congress sets the ticket fees. Some of our money came from that. Ten million came from the state lottery as a grant. We got a Connect Oregon I lottery funds grant. The Mill (Casino-Hotel) gave us a $100,000 grant. We borrowed $5.9 million from the state. But that’s a debt. We’re basically paying $1 million a year back. That will be paid with grants from our federal entitlement funds. In the end, probably within five years, the building will be free and clear.

LeTellier: We’ve put a huge amount of money back into the local economy.

Benetti: To local contractors.

LeTellier: And local suppliers, a lot of the construction supplies, much of it was bought locally.

Lehman: Bottom line is, yeah this was a lot of money, but it’s not property tax dollars that supported it. It probably brought more into the area than it took out.

Q: If you could go back in time, you said you would try to involve the public more than you did. Can you expand on that?

Lehman: Government bodies operate in this little cone of silence. Sometimes you lose sight of the fact that the public doesn’t understand why you have to buy $1,000 garbage cans. We lose sight of the fact that the public wouldn’t spend $1,000 on their garbage cans, so why would we? In their house, they don’t have security issues, you don’t want to have janitorial service emptying it four times a day and they don’t have to last for 20 years.

LeTellier: And you don’t have to meet fire codes.

Benetti: The point is just informing the public and trying to explain to them. Since this new board was elected, we have expanded to two meetings a month. I would really encourage people to step up and ask us a question there. ...

Q: What was the reason for holding an invitation-only party for the new terminal?

Lehman: We were strapped that night with parking, food and space. All but a couple of thousand dollars was funded by the people who built the building who wanted to show it off. It would have been hard to fit more in. In hindsight, we probably should have held the grand opening at 2 o’clock in the afternoon and had the party afterwards.

Benetti: The following days we had cookies and beverages out that we provided. I think we went through 1,200 cookies that first day. To the initial opening, the public wasn’t invited, but they were encouraged to come the next few days. And they did.

Q: In hindsight, would you have held a party if you knew what was coming?

Benetti: If we knew that Horizon wasn’t going to be here a month before, we wouldn’t have had the party. But by the time we knew Horizon was pulling out, all the vendors were committed, they bought products. You couldn’t stop it at that point. ...

Q: What is your work day like since Horizon Air made its announcement? Your off time?

LeTellier: We’ve all been pretty darn busy. We’ve been working pretty hard on this.

Lehman: ... I don’t see a lot of people sitting around feeling sorry for themselves, with their heads down. We’re going to figure this out. We’re going to find a way to bring back service.
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Steve P. wrote on Jul 26, 2008 10:56 AM:

It would be nice to see a few more citizens at the meetings.

IGNORED PUBLIC wrote on Jul 25, 2008 7:49 AM:

CHECK YOUR FACTS wrote on Jul 22, 2008 9:05 AM:
First... the Airport Board of Directors are not paid.

Second.. the Coos County Airport District is not "Coos County" The county commissioners don't have anything to do with the airport.

People really shouldn't speak when they don't know what they are saying.

I was asking The World to look into why our Coos County commissioners don't post their meeting notices in The World. Just wondering why they would only post a notice of their meetings in the Coquille paper. Seems like posting a notice in The World would reach a greater number of people. I know exactly what I am say. Just looking for The World to ask these important questions. Anything wrong with that?

Maw wrote on Jul 24, 2008 3:58 PM:

Went and saw the new aiport the other day and I just want to congratulate all the people who put their hearts into the building. Its beautiful!! The tiles on the front of the building are stunning. I hope everything going on with the flights can be worked out soon so the new airport can be enjoyed like it it suppose to be.

RECALL wrote on Jul 24, 2008 10:50 AM:

TO WAHOO''''''''''''You sound like it's areal complicated situation at the airport.I agree it is .But the complication comes from the mess these certain people created.You don't sound like you have much confidence in your self.We for sure don't need someone of your caliper there either.They need to be relieved of there duties.

Steve P. wrote on Jul 24, 2008 9:43 AM:

Board Meeting 5:30pm Thursday July 24th 2008 at the airport

Not my fault wrote on Jul 24, 2008 9:39 AM:

This reminds me of the scene in the old Blues Brothers movie where
John Belushi is on his knees pleading with Carrie Fischer to forgive him. "There was a flood, he whined, locusts came, it was the end of the world, it REALLY wasn't his fault, he swore to God."

wahoo wrote on Jul 23, 2008 3:35 PM:

First, Check Your Facts - don't confuse these moron bloggers with facts, only confuses them.

Second,what is their own agenda I keep hearing this Board had.

Finally, they may be idiots but so are the people they deal with - on CH 14 saw some bozo in complaing about parking fees and then said the "voters are all idiots". Thank god the "idiots" on the board are their - you could not pay me to do that job. But, Steve P keeps threatening he will recall - bet he has not even started it - just likes the power he has anonymously threatening it.

Bottom line - not sure I Know what this airport district is trying to do but pretty sure I don't want to try and do it my self

Steve P. wrote on Jul 22, 2008 10:09 AM:

Ignored Public,

I was just down to the World office Monday and asked the same question in person and in writing. I asked the same question about the Airport meetings also. The answer was they don't submit them. The Port does post on their website. (At least they posted when they canceled their meeting for July).The Airport website is incomplete and rarely updated.

Check your facts wrote on Jul 22, 2008 9:05 AM:

First... the Airport Board of Directors are not paid.

Second.. the Coos County Airport District is not "Coos County" The county commissioners don't have anything to do with the airport.

People really shouldn't speak when they don't know what they are saying.

Ignored Public wrote on Jul 21, 2008 6:11 PM:

To World Editor,
While you are taking questions from the public, I would like to know why Coos County commissioners will only publicize their meeting notices in the Coquille newspaper. By not putting their meeting notices in The World it gives the impression that they don't want the public to attend their meetings, know what is going on or have input into the process.

Please ask them this question. Thank you.

Kay wrote on Jul 21, 2008 4:10 PM:

Second try:Local Folks says:
local folks wrote on Jul 21, 2008 9:16 AM:
They DIDN'T hire a local marketing company, why not?
Any questions regarding advertising, promotions etc are referred to their new out of the area marketing company.

Who decided the locals weren't good enough? And who decided that out-of-state marketers know better/more that those who live right here?

That would be Ronnie Opitz, who has been paid almost $100,000.00 to "advertise" Sky West Flights. Why? I don't know since the airport already paid for all the seats for the whole summer, right Ronnie? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Steve P. wrote on Jul 21, 2008 1:13 PM:

The only touchy question asked was if the private party was a good idea.

Resident asked

1. Did they check into the fact that bringing another airline here could give Horizon a loophole to leave before contracting with Skywest?

2. Why was the old terminal remodeled if a new terminal was in the planning process?

3. Have these officials considered having an open question and answer session with the public?

I made a written request to be made aware of meeting times and dates and I requested a list of the invited to the private party. No answer.

Because Horizon may be required by DOT to continue service as the EAS clearly states "Two Portland trips per day, seven days a week", this may not be a good time for a recall, although LeTellier needs dismissed immediately due to gross incompetence, and a recall is a certainty at a later date for part of the board.

New question. "What travel agency does the board use for it's trips?"

Also "Why is the Board website not up to date and why isn't there a meeting notice in the World Online?"

Kay wrote on Jul 21, 2008 1:08 PM:

From Taxpayer:

Very Dissatified Taxpayer wrote on Jul 21, 2008 10:34 AM:
Finger pointing? We're way past that now. The questions asked were not very probative... if this articel was an attempt at investigative journalism it didn't work... it follws in the best traditions of The World... We don't want to tick anybody off who might be a potential advertiser... You might want to dig into the Skywest contract a little and how about those sweet heart deals with some of the contractors and good 'ole boys...

Or the Board of the SCDC, on which sits a member of darn near every industry and business in town. Quite handy in keeping criticism to a minimum.

Local Folks wrote on Jul 21, 2008 12:52 PM:

Dear Editor: here are a couple of questions that we would like to know the answers to.
- Did they attempt to hire or contract locally? What about their marketing company? (they're NOT from Oregon) And what is their policy for such hires and contracts? Do they just hire or contract with anyone they wish or is it put to bid?
- What are the plans for the old, newly remodeled terminal? (we haven't been able to get anyone to answer this one yet either)

Kay wrote on Jul 21, 2008 10:50 AM:

Local Folks says:local folks wrote on Jul 21, 2008 9:16 AM:
They DIDN'T hire a local marketing company, why not?
Any questions regarding advertising, promotions etc are referred to their new out of the area marketing company.

Who decided the locals weren't good enough? And who decided that out-of-state marketers know better/more that those who live right here?

Kay says: That would be Ronnie Opitz, The Wizard of Oz, he's behind EVERY curtain, with his hand in everyone's pocket.

Very Dissatified Taxpayer wrote on Jul 21, 2008 10:34 AM:

Finger pointing? We're way past that now. The questions asked were not very probative... if this articel was an attempt at investigative journalism it didn't work... it follws in the best traditions of The World... We don't want to tick anybody off who might be a potential advertiser... You might want to dig into the Skywest contract a little and how about those sweet heart deals with some of the contractors and good 'ole boys...

Resident wrote on Jul 21, 2008 10:23 AM:

Awesome...we'll ask the questions.
1. Did they check into the fact that bringing another airline here could give Horizon a loophole to leave before contracting with Skywest?

2. Why was the old terminal remodeled if a new terminal was in the planning process?

3. Have these officials considered having an open question and answer session with the public?

Editor...the article didn't tell us anything new.

RECALL wrote on Jul 21, 2008 10:16 AM:

TO LOCAL FOLKS::::::Perhaps the board members are with the program in regards to out of town help.Maybe the only qualified people are only at of town ,including board members.At any point they need to be replaced,immediately.

Editor wrote on Jul 21, 2008 10:05 AM:

Jeesh: If you thought our questions were softballs, you're welcome to post some questions of your own. We welcome any and all suggestions. -- Editor

local folks wrote on Jul 21, 2008 9:16 AM:

They DIDN'T hire a local marketing company, why not?
Any questions regarding advertising, promotions etc are referred to their new out of the area marketing company.

Who decided the locals weren't good enough? And who decided that out-of-state marketers know better/more that those who live right here?

George B wrote on Jul 20, 2008 9:03 PM:

United is on the brink of disaster and Skywest is only the sub-contractor. They are not an airline. Horizon's the only other game in town. It's a raw deal.

Timbo wrote on Jul 20, 2008 3:31 PM:

Yakima was serviced by SkyWest, however it was a Delta flight, headed to SLC. The United Express flight services out of SFO are top-notch, if you ask me.

Brad wrote on Jul 20, 2008 2:58 PM:

Recall election: the futile expenditure of public funds to go out on the field after the battle and shoot the wounded.

bob wrote on Jul 20, 2008 10:09 AM:

I read in The World a while back about a local contractor who said Jesus was coming to North Bend to drive out the poverty. Any updates on His arrival or how He may be able to help with flights to Portland in the future? TIA

Ronop wrote on Jul 20, 2008 7:31 AM:

When last interviewed by the World these fellows said they were caught by surprise. Now they knew everything. And they want us to trust them everything will be OK. See you at the next ballot box fellows!

Airport Heights wrote on Jul 19, 2008 10:50 PM:

Ho hum...I see three guys scrambling to keep their cushy jobs :/

Jack wrote on Jul 19, 2008 8:50 PM:

It's going to be a difficult sell to get Horizon back into OTH with the larger Q400 aircraft for anything other than seasonal flights. The smaller Dash 8's were only half full in the winter or over flowing with golf clubs in the summer.
Be nice to Skywest. Their service is going to be iffy at best. Just ask Yakima.

Jeesh wrote on Jul 19, 2008 4:48 PM:

Softball questions from an amateur "reporter", non-answers from a defensive clique comprised of naive and untalented locals who were in way over their heads. They're now trying to rationalize the result of their action and inaction. At least Mr Benetti with his chef background pointed out that they had cookies for all, albeit after the private party. I think an airport motto should be added to the shiny new terminal: "WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' AIRLINE, WE GOT COOKIES"

RECALL wrote on Jul 19, 2008 12:25 PM:

It sounds to me like a bunch of double talking excuses.Lehman I'm sure you all haven't been just sitting around,you been trying to figure out how to put a spin on this situation,just what attorneys usually do when their knowingly wrong.I'm confident something good will result out this fiasco,starting with ALL CUSTOMERS being served.Then replacement of all members of airport.RECALL IS THE ONLY SOLUTION AT THIS POINT.

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