VA, veteran still battling over benefits

By Alexander Rich, Staff Writer
Tuesday, April 15, 2008 | 10 comment(s)

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In more than a decade with the Department of Veterans Affairs, Jason McClelland, director of the Portland VA office, has never seen a case like James Loveless’.

Its complexities are familiar to The World’s readers, but it took several years before VA staff concluded their report on the matter.

The case features a review triggered by a presidential proclamation, corresponding congressional action and a fair amount of miscommunication.

And, for now, Loveless is being denied VA benefits despite a discharge that was upgraded to honorable.

The confusing twists and turns of his case began in 1968, when Loveless completed his service in the U.S. Navy.

The Vietnam veteran received an undesirable discharge due to repeated flights from duty he attributes to post traumatic stress disorder. He later obtained an upgrade — or so he thought.

In 2004, he was told his discharge was “under dishonorable conditions” and he would not be eligible for benefits. A year later, the VA recognized his upgrade and told him he could apply for services including medical treatment.

Then, in 2006, Loveless was simply told he was not entitled to benefits.

Needless to say, Loveless was confused.

He was not alone.

McClelland said the first two correspondences were sent by staff who hadn’t performed a complete review of Loveless’ record.

“It was premature for them to release that,” he said.

McClelland would not fault VA personnel for the untimely mailings because of the unusual nature of the case.

“I’ve been doing this for 10 or 12 years,” he said. “(Loveless’ case) is the first of this kind I’ve seen.”

The three conflicting letters stem from a series of decisions from the 1970s, centered around efforts to forgive draft dodgers and military deserters following the Vietnam war.

In 1974, President Gerald Ford issued a proclamation to “afford reconciliation to Vietnam era draft evaders and military deserters.” One provision called for the creation of a clemency board to review the records of veterans with undesirable discharges due to unsanctioned absences.

Few veterans applied, so when he came to office, President Jimmy Carter created a discharge review program. Loveless was one of about 16,000 veterans who applied and received an upgraded discharge.

A New York Times article from 1977 said it was rare for a veteran to have his discharge upgraded from undesirable to honorable, but Loveless’ records indicate his was one of the few that was.

But in October 1977, Carter signed a bill requiring veterans to undergo another review before receiving benefits from such an upgrade.

Loveless had his case reviewed again, but this time he was not as fortunate. He was denied benefits.

McClelland said he reviewed Loveless’ case, and noted a series of absences without leave that probably led to the decision to deny benefits.

“That was the key pattern I saw referenced,” he said.

Loveless disagrees with the decision and submitted an appeal April 3. He argues his absences were a result of post-traumatic stress disorder, which led to depression and an inability to serve.

“My discharge from the service was not due to willful and persistent misconduct,” he writes in his appeal. “It was due to the fact that my superiors ... had no idea what I had been through, nor did they have any idea of the horrendous effect it would have on myself and other veterans.”

McClelland said Loveless may not be able to qualify for VA benefits, but he can receive treatment for service-related medical conditions. In order to qualify, Loveless must complete paperwork that was sent to him March 20, McClelland said.

Loveless has been seen at a VA clinic, though he said he was snuck in by a counselor.

“It was under the table,” he said.

According to medical records obtained by The World, Loveless has received a preliminary diagnosis for PTSD as well as a diagnosis of chronic lymphocytic leukemia that may be connected to his exposure to Agent Orange.

Loveless said he filed his appeal not out of need but to make a point. He is not lacking for help, with access to the Oregon Health Plan and Supplemental  Security Income. But he wants the military to acknowledge its role in his failing health.

“It wasn’t the Oregon Health Plan or SSI that hit me with radiation or sprayed me with poison,” he said. “I think the VA should stand responsible for what they have done.”
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Samuel wrote on Apr 16, 2008 8:20 AM:

You know most of those idiots who working in the Bandon VA Clinic did not even serve in the military and yet they are doing that job. How can they be a judge if any. Even the Hospital in Roseburg is a complete joke. If Mr. Loveless got his discharge upgraded and the law says he is entitled to benefits, then give it to him! That War like this one that we are in is so unpopular among the American people that nobody can agree on what is right and wrong. We are a divided country and probably always will be. So who is to say anymore who is right and who is wrong. Who is this supposed Judge to make those decisions? Our Government is so hard to follow on what they are deciding for all of us that half of what they do makes not sense at all. If Mr. Loveless has the benefits coming, then let him have them. We are already spending billions on unecessary BS right now, like illegal immigration. At least this man served and is native born.

Still Serving wrote on Apr 16, 2008 6:10 AM:

It is very difficult to get a bad conduct or dishonorable discharge. This guy is currently being taken care of by Oregon Health Plan and SSI. Let's see, he's getting all the best health care America can give him and he's getting a paycheck. His military service is checkered by mutinous behavior. I love my fellow comrades here in Iraq, but if any of them conduct themselves like this guy, then they deserve absolutely nothing from the VA.

forrest wrote on Apr 16, 2008 4:10 AM:

Fact is I know the devistation of PTSD. Although I served in Iraq until my last explosion without going awol I am certain that a man who has PTSD could and does do things that are irrational. I think that the one who served proudly is a judgmental person without compassion. I think that Mr. Loveless should have the benefeits awarded to him because the VA recognized that he has PTSD and to recognize that means that the guy went through some hard traumatic combat. Mr. Loveless I hope you get the compensation that is do you. Thank you for serving in the Vietnam war. I sympothize with ya brother. Forrest

vietnam vet wrote on Apr 15, 2008 9:48 PM:

In my Opinion

I know many vets who would leave in a heart beat if they could and would not go back to that mess and to many vets doing drugs to get through the night. After seeing PTSD at the VA Hosp and how it affect people, I want throw a stone, I would request more details and facts to make a judgment.

I went to a QTC exam and they put down my injury happen aboard ship in Vietnam and had a fall in 78 when I was out of service.
The problem is a medical board in 77 shows that I was injured in Athens Greece almost four years later and part of the record shows that my leg gives away and cause me to fall.

The VA changed the exam from a VA Hosp that I have to drive by to QTC to get the results they wanted.
Yes I can understand the down grade, as the VA tries to make their on rules.

If you are right in your facts request another review but know why they denied you so you can answer the findings.
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Don Palmer wrote on Apr 15, 2008 8:10 PM:

Give me a break! Most of you feel sorry for this guy. He dishonored all of who served. I dont care if he had a upgraded discharge, The VA was set up to help vets with service connected disabilities. Vets who served honorable but have an income to take of themselves are not eligibe for care. Stop looking for government handouts.

Truthsayer wrote on Apr 15, 2008 6:59 PM:

It should be noted that our VA health care is one of the worst in the world and ranks near the bottom for medical quality here in the US.

It is simply a disgrace that all Americans are not guaranteed quality health care in so advanced a country as ours, regardless of whether they are a veteran. Many brave and selfless Americans have given the ultimate sacrifice to insure our way of life, yet we deny the simple and basic necessities of a healthy life in this country.

It would probably be more beneficial for Two Bears if he treats himself with homeopathic remedies rather than rely on a bunch of VA quacks who will only put him in an early grave.

Navy Wave wrote on Apr 15, 2008 6:18 PM:

Oh how I love the way people read-or don't read as the case may be. He was discharged before the freedom of info act. So was I(1964) and when I applied for disability in 1973 for seizures, I was told there were none in my med records and IF I wanted copies I had to tell them which pages, they would decided if it was in my best interest and then charge me for each page!!
I gave up until everything can flooding back about five years ago and now I have my medical records and they are denying me because " there is no verifiable in-service stressor in my records to cause PTSD" It has gone to Washington - had a hearing on 3 March 2008. They are noe working on Jan/Feb 2006-my BVA req was 3-2006. Hopefully it will be over soon-but it has been a mess. They still say there is no evidence of seizures or fainting during my time in the military-I have the records and there are 6 HOSPITAL visits that record them. Come on people just READ the information!!
Good Luck

Janice wrote on Apr 15, 2008 4:48 PM:

On the last day, Jesus will say to those on His right hand, "Come, enter the Kingdom. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was sick and you visited me." Then Jesus will turn to those on His left hand and say, "Depart from me because I was hungry and you did not feed me, I was thirsty and you did not give me to drink, I was sick and you did not visit me." These will ask Him, "When did we see You hungry, or thirsty or sick and did not come to Your help?" And Jesus will answer them, "Whatever you neglected to do unto one of these least of these, you neglected to do unto Me!"

Vietnam Combat Vet Vet wrote on Apr 15, 2008 3:55 PM:

In my opinion Loveless doesn't deserve any benefits....

All Gave Some...Some Gave All ...Some like Mr Loveless gave nothing at all.

In reference to his AO claim....Was his exposure due to being on the ground in Vietnam or did he handle Agent Orange aboard ship....

C'mon...the man is trying to get something he doesen't deserve...

One Who Served Proudly

GI JOE wrote on Apr 15, 2008 3:46 PM:

WELCOME BACK WELCOME BACK WELCOME BACK!ISNT THIS A GREAT WELCOME BACK ??? DID THE PEOPLE AT THE VA SERVE A SECOND IN THE MILITARY BEFORE THEY JUDGED YOU? YOUR DISCHARGE WAS UPGRADED THEN DOWN GRADED ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


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