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Dave wrote on Dec 11, 2008 10:35 PM:
at the age of 55 fisical and mental with PTSD, I filed a claim for agent orange and never hear nothing but ways for the VA to buy time until we are all
dead so I know what you mean, god bless
take it this way, if were not in Vietnam we would just be somewere else?
hmmm wrote on Apr 9, 2008 11:09 AM:
CC wrote on Apr 8, 2008 7:47 AM:
Melissa wrote on Apr 1, 2008 5:55 PM:
sympathetic wrote on Apr 1, 2008 1:25 PM:
CB Mom wrote on Apr 1, 2008 11:21 AM:
"Seagull" wrote on Mar 31, 2008 10:45 PM:
I too was aboard ship, offshore (barely).
Our vessel went to Pearl Harbor and while there the crew was sent to assist in a work-party loading barrels of the stuff aboard an aircraft carrier. Those carrier based aircraft are the ones who "delivered" the stuff. A lot of people at a lot of duty stations handled those agents.
No-one can honestly say that 2B never handled the stuff...but him.
vet's daughter wrote on Mar 30, 2008 4:53 AM:
MarDivPhoto wrote on Mar 25, 2008 11:37 AM:
To those who sympathize with this man's plight and say that since he was a vet he deserves help no matter what, I have to point out that by that rule we'd bankrupt the VA in no time and the vets whose injuries and conditions are truly service-related would suffer thereby. We have too many non-related and even phony vets collecting off the system now (see the book Stolen Valor by Burkett) and enforcing reasonable rules is critical. (And yes, the VA can also be difficult, bureaucratic, and unfair at times, I have been there and don't defend that at all.) Again, this man probably believes it all by now and so is totally sincere in his claims; but that by itself can't be enough.
kk wrote on Mar 20, 2008 9:31 AM:
breaks my heart wrote on Mar 20, 2008 8:31 AM:
I believe you. I am aware of project SHAD and Operation RANCH HAND.
I want you to know that when I said "Why should I care..." I was being sarcastic. I do care about you and hope you will be able to get the assistance you need to get the medical care you need.
twobear wrote on Mar 19, 2008 5:33 PM:
two bear wrote on Mar 19, 2008 5:25 PM:
Samuel wrote on Mar 19, 2008 3:51 PM:
PS. thank you to all of you who responded to this story for your service. I do appreciate it! God Bless!
breaks my heart wrote on Mar 18, 2008 8:22 PM:
What I was interested in was the facts of his case. Was he on the U.S.S. Princeton in April 1966? The same ship listed by the Blue Water Veterans? The group that claims there were various ways their ships were contaminated by Agent Orange, and it was not the only contaminant they claim. If those two were facts then it doesn't really matter if he remembers the details accurately does it? The last fact would be if he was given an upgrade from dishonorable to honorable. Those are the important elements of his claim I think.
You know what, maybe you are right. Why should I care about an old broken down Vietnam Veteran who is a liar and a dysfunctional human being. And maybe we should all be ashamed at how some veterans have been treated.
MarDivPhoto wrote on Mar 18, 2008 12:46 PM:
Wow, I am impressed by your passionate need to sympathize with this man and believe he suffered some kind of chemical effect while in the Navy that caused his cancer.
But the devil is in the details, as the saying goes. No, he could not have been exposed to defoliants on his ship, there were never any on ships, all mixing/spraying was land based. And the low (under 150 feet, sometimes 75 feet) spray mist could not carry out to sea, the breezes always blow landward.
The man has a very bad service record, years of alcoholism and dysfunctionality, and tells stories that are way off base. His credibility gap makes the Grand Canyon look small. I still am sorry for him, as I am for the various other unfortunate people in the world, but that has no demonstrable connection to his time on a ship off the coast of Viet Nam.
breaks my heart wrote on Mar 18, 2008 10:28 AM:
The U.S.S. Apprentice is included in The Blue Water Veterans list of ships.
So his details are wrong, it doesn't mean he wasn't exposed.
MarDivPhoto wrote on Mar 18, 2008 4:22 AM:
And yes, I am a Nam vet, and a part-time historian of the war.
breaks my heart wrote on Mar 17, 2008 1:44 PM:
Are you factually stating that Mr. Loveless was not on the U.S.S. Princeton in April 1966 on the coastline north of the DMZ? Or is it your opinion that he wasn't. Do you think it is just coincidence or perhaps a quirk of fate that he now has been diagnosed with chronic lymphocytic leukemia?
Are you denying that drug addiction and alchohol abuse was a problem for many many Vietnam Veterans? Why do you think that your physical injury which medically retired you is so different than his mental injury that left him in the condition he was in?
I agree that you earned the benefits you have. So did he.
I don't understand why you are so against him getting help when he has only two months to live. That is cold.
Dale Lemmons wrote on Mar 17, 2008 10:58 AM:
KC Coquille wrote on Mar 17, 2008 8:03 AM:
Dale Lemmons wrote on Mar 17, 2008 12:23 AM:
I was on the Princton during operation Sarelight Aug 1965 and I remember Officers and crew did all they could for us Marines.This Marine would like to say thank you to real crew members.
EAGLES PERCH wrote on Mar 16, 2008 11:33 PM:
breaks my heart wrote on Mar 16, 2008 11:23 AM:
I am so angry that the government did this to their own soldiers and have not taken care of them. How many others were killed in Vietnam and are just now
leaving this world?
Big Roy Sanchez wrote on Mar 16, 2008 10:44 AM:
This statement makes no sense. Because you are currently in Iraq, you happen to know murders did not happen in Vietnam, almost 40 years ago?
What sort of qualifications make you able to make this sort of historically based statement? Were you also a Vietnam veteran? Were you there? Did you see it?
In Iraq wrote on Mar 16, 2008 5:41 AM:
This guy is a discrace to those who wore and wear the uniform. "The mass murder of civilians" is something that he probably read in a book. Stationed aboard an evacuating medical ship carrying injured soldiers to sick bay tells me that he probably didn't see actual land combat in Vietnam.
The heroes and fallen brothers of WWII saw much worse and rarely complained or demanded a life of comfort via the US Government.
I am currently serving in Iraq and have seen the lies from various groups claiming "mass murder" and such. Folks, it just didn't happen that way. The mass murder did take place, but not by US serviceman. It happened AFTER we left Vietnam to the tune of over a million innocents in the killing fields at the hands of the communist north.
Perhaps people should take personal responsibility for their own health and own lives before they put their hand out and expect gratuity.
The willful slandering of his country 40 years after his dishonorable discharge brings extreme discredit to his plea for help.
Dale Lemmons wrote on Mar 15, 2008 11:38 PM:
Terry Keenan wrote on Mar 15, 2008 8:40 PM:
Please go here: www.terrykeenan.com and click on the "Chemoboy" logo to read my short story.
Becky Childers wrote on Mar 15, 2008 8:30 PM:
I am including some information on Vietnam Veterans and the connection with CLL/Agent Orange.
Please contact your congressman to help expediate the process of your claim. I have had to do this with many of the Veterans I have worked with (Cold Injury/Korean War). Take Care and Thank you for your service to our country.
Becky
VA To Grant Benefits To More Vietnam Veterans (CLL)
January 23, 2003........NEW UPDATE....SEE 2006 INFO....BELOW...
WASHINGTON – Based upon a recently released review of scientific studies, Secretary of Veterans Affairs Anthony J. Principi has decided to extend benefits to Vietnam veterans with chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL).
“Compelling evidence has emerged within the scientific community that exposure to herbicides such as Agent Orange is associated with CLL,” Principi said. “I’m exercising my legal authority to ensure the full range of VA benefits is available to Vietnam veterans with CLL.”
The ruling means that veterans with CLL who served in Vietnam during the Vietnam War don’t have to prove that illness is related to their military service to qualify for Department of Veterans Affairs disability compensation. Additionally, for more than 20 years, VA has offered special access to medical care to Vietnam veterans with any health problems that may have resulted from Agent Orange exposure, and this decision will ensure higher-priority access to care in the future.
Concerned wrote on Mar 15, 2008 5:03 PM:
Help him! wrote on Mar 15, 2008 11:23 AM:
Please read the following article that was printed in The World Newspaper and help this man. It is despicable to me that the Vietnam Veterans are having to fight another war.
Vietnam vet fighting leukemia and the VA
http://www.theworldlink.com/articles/2008/03/15/news/doc47db6f4a05dc2710022797.txt
TB wrote on Mar 15, 2008 10:27 AM:




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