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wholeeo wrote on May 23, 2008 5:17 PM:
It's unfortunate the gentleman made the decision to fight the police but it was his decision. Getting injured is his own fault. I would have tazed him relentlessly.
too much wrote on Apr 15, 2008 2:14 AM:
I started reading many of these blogs, and i have to say this thread is absolutely painful. There's so much name calling and jumping on anyone that dares to comment or question anything said. I feel for the pain many of you seem to have, but does it make you feel better to lash out at others that have different points of view?
I'm sure my words will be attacked so I think i'll do myself a favor and not revisit this blog. I don't need to witness anymore of the malice and discontent I read in many of these comments. I hope you all manage to find your joy, it seems like a little of it could be used about now.
I'm sure my words will be attacked so I think i'll do myself a favor and not revisit this blog. I don't need to witness anymore of the malice and discontent I read in many of these comments. I hope you all manage to find your joy, it seems like a little of it could be used about now.
Kay wrote on Apr 6, 2008 10:47 AM:
You got it Blodsinn, small, vocal, and we ain't going away. Thanks for mentioning us.
Blodsinn Reden wrote on Apr 5, 2008 12:46 PM:
Thank you Nancy Keller for your unselfish support of our local police. I was very impressed with the numbers that were able to show up on such short notice. I regret that I was not able to attend.
It seems we have a very vocal tiny minority in Coquille that not only hates the police but all those that support a crime free environment.
I was shocked to see you attacked on this post after organizing the support the police rally.
It seems we have a very vocal tiny minority in Coquille that not only hates the police but all those that support a crime free environment.
I was shocked to see you attacked on this post after organizing the support the police rally.
wave maker wrote on Apr 4, 2008 4:16 PM:
MUSING:
That was just an irrational statement. Don't expect much of a response to it. If you did your homework, you would know that all Police in Oregon are trained at the same place (was monmouth but now is the DPSST training center in Salem.) Come up with something that you can substantiate. Fact is, Foster's arrest was completely legal and done in an acceptable manner. Just because you hate cops does not make you the foremost expert on anything related to them, unless you were the receiver of sorts.
That was just an irrational statement. Don't expect much of a response to it. If you did your homework, you would know that all Police in Oregon are trained at the same place (was monmouth but now is the DPSST training center in Salem.) Come up with something that you can substantiate. Fact is, Foster's arrest was completely legal and done in an acceptable manner. Just because you hate cops does not make you the foremost expert on anything related to them, unless you were the receiver of sorts.
just musing wrote on Apr 4, 2008 9:05 AM:
I see that the City of Corvallis is now being sued because a police officer arrested a sober man for drunk driving and threatened the man's wife with a taser gun. The suspect was tested - absolutely sober - no drugs, no alcohol. His eyes were bloodshot from having a cold. That was the reason she was arrested. The officer must have received his training in Coquille.
Blodsinn Reden wrote on Apr 2, 2008 12:18 PM:
Kay,
Try to calm down and read my posts rationally.
At no time did I indicate that I assumed that you did not respect veterans "mam" only that I did.
Also I do not believe you will find me to be an overt supporter of the war(your comment of ("following the chicken hawks")and ("how is that going for ya?")
I am a supporter of the troops and do not understand those that denigrate them at the airports and other places as the far left lunatics do. Why they would curse, spit at and otherwise insult the troops is beyond me.
It seems to me YOU are the one making incorrect assumptions and accusing me of things you have no idea about.
Try to calm down and read my posts rationally.
At no time did I indicate that I assumed that you did not respect veterans "mam" only that I did.
Also I do not believe you will find me to be an overt supporter of the war(your comment of ("following the chicken hawks")and ("how is that going for ya?")
I am a supporter of the troops and do not understand those that denigrate them at the airports and other places as the far left lunatics do. Why they would curse, spit at and otherwise insult the troops is beyond me.
It seems to me YOU are the one making incorrect assumptions and accusing me of things you have no idea about.
Kay wrote on Apr 1, 2008 4:37 PM:
I apologize for repeat posts, the site kept kicking me off, sorry for repeats.
Kay wrote on Apr 1, 2008 4:28 PM:
BLODSINN REDEN:
In speaking about combat vets:
"I do not however believe that it makes them the foremost authority on world events and needs."
No?
Then keep following the chicken hawks that lied us into this illegal war and occupation of a county, okay?
How's that goin' for ya?
Do not attempt to "assume" I do not respect veterans, sir, that won't fly.
Why do you think NOT ONE of the planners of this fiasco in the Middle East, I repeat, not one, was a combat vet?
I will repeat, it takes a man to fight in combat, any tin soldier with a codpiece can wave a flag.
In speaking about combat vets:
"I do not however believe that it makes them the foremost authority on world events and needs."
No?
Then keep following the chicken hawks that lied us into this illegal war and occupation of a county, okay?
How's that goin' for ya?
Do not attempt to "assume" I do not respect veterans, sir, that won't fly.
Why do you think NOT ONE of the planners of this fiasco in the Middle East, I repeat, not one, was a combat vet?
I will repeat, it takes a man to fight in combat, any tin soldier with a codpiece can wave a flag.
Blodsinn Reden wrote on Apr 1, 2008 1:23 PM:
Kay,
So let me get this correct.....one must fight a war to be a man and support the troops of his country.
Only those who fought in combat are smart enough to know what is right for the future of our country.
I have the utmost respect for all those who had to fight and I support them in more ways than you could possibly know.
I do not however believe that it makes them the foremost authority on world events and needs.
I clearly said that I was a Vietnam ERA vet. I had a very important job which would probably make no difference to you since I do not have a purple heart.
I watched in 1968 as many vietnam vets came home to turn the Democratic convention into a circus and expect a similar group of "Peace Demonstrators" to do the same in 2008. Perhaps you should look at the "FLAG Wavers" as you so demeaningly call them. I happen to know that many of them fought in WWII and Korea (Yes COMBAT Vets)
This is a blog in support of the coquille Police and I am sorry if it strayed from the true meaning.
hbmoa
So let me get this correct.....one must fight a war to be a man and support the troops of his country.
Only those who fought in combat are smart enough to know what is right for the future of our country.
I have the utmost respect for all those who had to fight and I support them in more ways than you could possibly know.
I do not however believe that it makes them the foremost authority on world events and needs.
I clearly said that I was a Vietnam ERA vet. I had a very important job which would probably make no difference to you since I do not have a purple heart.
I watched in 1968 as many vietnam vets came home to turn the Democratic convention into a circus and expect a similar group of "Peace Demonstrators" to do the same in 2008. Perhaps you should look at the "FLAG Wavers" as you so demeaningly call them. I happen to know that many of them fought in WWII and Korea (Yes COMBAT Vets)
This is a blog in support of the coquille Police and I am sorry if it strayed from the true meaning.
hbmoa
KARLI wrote on Apr 1, 2008 7:20 AM:
THANK YOU TO DR KELLER AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO SHOWED UP IN SUPPORT FOR THIS EVENT. AND THANK YOU TO THE WORLD FOR COVERING THIS STORY. LAW ENFORCEMENT MEMBERS GOT HIT HARD BY NEGATIVE COMMENTS WHEN THE TRAGIC ACCIDENT OCCURRED IN COQUILLE. IT NICE TO SHOW A MORE POSITIVE, LIGHTER SIDE IN SUPPORT OF OUR EVERY DAY HEROES. THANKS AGAIN FOR EVERYONE'S SUPPORT.
Lester wrote on Mar 31, 2008 2:58 PM:
To the blog operator of "Kathy's World"...why have you let this turn into some political rant? Is it not your job to run these people off to your new "forum"? This is way off track and rediculous.
Kay wrote on Mar 31, 2008 11:44 AM:
Blodsinn Reden:
You are referring to the Veterans For Peace on the other side of the road, correct? The ones waving the peace flags? Count the numbers of Purple Hearts,silver stars, and others,from those COMBAT vets.
These are the true patriots, please tell me if you are a combat vet. Huge difference there , Sir !
One of the "flag wavers" by the VA has been hollaring abt. his Grandson who, by my count is starting his fourth year IN IRAQ ! Takes a man to fight a war, any one can wave a flag !
You are referring to the Veterans For Peace on the other side of the road, correct? The ones waving the peace flags? Count the numbers of Purple Hearts,silver stars, and others,from those COMBAT vets.
These are the true patriots, please tell me if you are a combat vet. Huge difference there , Sir !
One of the "flag wavers" by the VA has been hollaring abt. his Grandson who, by my count is starting his fourth year IN IRAQ ! Takes a man to fight a war, any one can wave a flag !
Young Voter wrote on Mar 31, 2008 11:23 AM:
Journey I hate to have to point out the obvious to you but neither one of the officers involved were in the vietnam war.
Blodsinn Reden wrote on Mar 30, 2008 7:32 PM:
Journey(to the far left)
Here is a brief history lesson. Don't ever compare U.S. forces to Pol Pot and the "Khmer Rouge" communists.
The Killing Fields were a number of sites in Cambodia where large numbers of people were killed and buried by the Communist Khmer Rouge regime, during its rule of the country from 1975 to 1979. Estimates of the number of dead range from 1.7 to 2.3 million out of a population of around 7 million.[1] In 1979 Communist Vietnam invaded the country, which at that time was officially called Democratic Kampuchea, and toppled the Khmer Rouge regime.
Here is a brief history lesson. Don't ever compare U.S. forces to Pol Pot and the "Khmer Rouge" communists.
The Killing Fields were a number of sites in Cambodia where large numbers of people were killed and buried by the Communist Khmer Rouge regime, during its rule of the country from 1975 to 1979. Estimates of the number of dead range from 1.7 to 2.3 million out of a population of around 7 million.[1] In 1979 Communist Vietnam invaded the country, which at that time was officially called Democratic Kampuchea, and toppled the Khmer Rouge regime.
wave maker wrote on Mar 30, 2008 5:01 PM:
Journey 888
That does not even deserve a response. I myself am a veteran and am deeply apolled by that remark. You should be ashamed of yourself!!!!
That does not even deserve a response. I myself am a veteran and am deeply apolled by that remark. You should be ashamed of yourself!!!!
Blodsinn Reden wrote on Mar 30, 2008 1:38 PM:
Journey 888,
That is the most inane comment I have seen on here yet. You are showing your generation as part of the radical left anti-war protesters of the 60's.
Take a look back through history and you will see that policing has taken great strides over the years to become more politically correct (which should make you happy).
Keep your hopes up and you might be one of the Obama sheep herded into power that keep bleeting "CHANGE" without having any idea what that change will mean. If he is elected we will see the radicals of the 60's all around him helping him to govern. Mabe the Weather underground can run the nations police academies........hmmmmmmmmm wouldn't that be nice.
Did I see you in Bandon protesting the war?????????????
I would have been one of the Vietnam era veterans on the other side of the street.
That is the most inane comment I have seen on here yet. You are showing your generation as part of the radical left anti-war protesters of the 60's.
Take a look back through history and you will see that policing has taken great strides over the years to become more politically correct (which should make you happy).
Keep your hopes up and you might be one of the Obama sheep herded into power that keep bleeting "CHANGE" without having any idea what that change will mean. If he is elected we will see the radicals of the 60's all around him helping him to govern. Mabe the Weather underground can run the nations police academies........hmmmmmmmmm wouldn't that be nice.
Did I see you in Bandon protesting the war?????????????
I would have been one of the Vietnam era veterans on the other side of the street.
journey888 wrote on Mar 30, 2008 9:59 AM:
Since America started hiring police from Vietnam vets, [from the killing fields], police were more vicious on the people they are suppost to protect!
wave maker wrote on Mar 29, 2008 11:17 PM:
I have visited the Concerned Citizens of Coquille website and I have to that we should be proud of both these women. They both bring good points to the table and seem to work mostly unbiased toward the betterment of the community. Their ability to remain cordial to each other and seemingly respect the others opinion is an example that we could all utilize. Shane.
WAVE MAKER wrote on Mar 29, 2008 11:09 PM:
Bandon,
shows how little you know, we are not arguing we are debating an important topic thus learning about each-others point of view. People learn from interaction and show interest in what the others have to say, if we did not, we would not interact. If you are unable to learn from anyone here and view it as simple arguing, I suggest that you read something else
shows how little you know, we are not arguing we are debating an important topic thus learning about each-others point of view. People learn from interaction and show interest in what the others have to say, if we did not, we would not interact. If you are unable to learn from anyone here and view it as simple arguing, I suggest that you read something else
WAVE MAKER wrote on Mar 29, 2008 4:14 PM:
Well, best of luck to them. Fact is he did wrong, was being aprehended for it, fought like he always does(did) and accidents happen. Regardless, a crime never had to be committed in the presence of the law for it to happen. Probable Cause has to be established, no matter what state you are in. What you should do is read your ORS again. I checked the 99 and you are wrong. read the whole thing.
Nancy Keller wrote on Mar 29, 2008 2:55 PM:
Bandon
As a Resident here, I would like to tell you that the opinions I have seen here are a very small minority. As I have said repeatedly, the content citizens are quiet! Generally they just let things blow over. We have a wonderful community here with the usual flaws that you would expect in human society but overall, I think it is the greatest place to live! I have lived here for 15 years and my interactions with the Coquille police have always been polite, even when the situations were rough.
As I keep stating, if there is a problem, then find a solution. I, for one, am very appreciative about our police in this county. I have been approached at least five times a day by people who have been happy that someone finally put on a pro police rally. They keep asking me if I would put one on in the summer. Instead, I just ask them to let the police officers know personally that they are appreciated. By my interaction with the citizens of Coquille, the majority are satisfied.
Nancy Keller
As a Resident here, I would like to tell you that the opinions I have seen here are a very small minority. As I have said repeatedly, the content citizens are quiet! Generally they just let things blow over. We have a wonderful community here with the usual flaws that you would expect in human society but overall, I think it is the greatest place to live! I have lived here for 15 years and my interactions with the Coquille police have always been polite, even when the situations were rough.
As I keep stating, if there is a problem, then find a solution. I, for one, am very appreciative about our police in this county. I have been approached at least five times a day by people who have been happy that someone finally put on a pro police rally. They keep asking me if I would put one on in the summer. Instead, I just ask them to let the police officers know personally that they are appreciated. By my interaction with the citizens of Coquille, the majority are satisfied.
Nancy Keller
bandon wrote on Mar 29, 2008 12:41 PM:
WOW- I'm so glad I dont live in coquille, cant you people find anything better to do than argue on the internet?
Thomas wrote on Mar 28, 2008 9:06 PM:
Apparently the ORS was amended after my 1999 source to make all classes of misdemeanors subject to warrantless arrest, so at least if these officers actually did attempt to arrest Mr Foster for something, it would have been legal. Other States more wisely differ with Oregon on this.
The published DA's press release indicated the officers immediately grabbed Mr Foster following his refusal to answer questions, with only their alleged demand he put hands behind back as they acted. Again, no mention of the required notice of being arrested for anything.
It's just as well the DA won't try this case here, as justice likely will be better served in another venue. The Foster family will make the decision to sue as they choose, but from what we know, appears they would have a very good case.
The published DA's press release indicated the officers immediately grabbed Mr Foster following his refusal to answer questions, with only their alleged demand he put hands behind back as they acted. Again, no mention of the required notice of being arrested for anything.
It's just as well the DA won't try this case here, as justice likely will be better served in another venue. The Foster family will make the decision to sue as they choose, but from what we know, appears they would have a very good case.
wavemaker wrote on Mar 28, 2008 5:13 PM:
Kidnap (look in the ORS) would have been more than sufficient to charge the guy with, harassment you pick it, there are an abundance of crimes avaliable in the accounts that I have read. We both get our info from the same sources, so look at it again without a biased mind.
wave maker wrote on Mar 28, 2008 4:22 PM:
Thomas, it seems as if you did not come to the argument with an open mind. More like you had your mind made up before you started. It is people of your caliber that makes Jurys dangerous.
Thomas is an idiot wrote on Mar 28, 2008 4:21 PM:
Thomas,
The only thing which must be conducted in a police officer's presence is a violation, such as a traffic violation etc. Everything else can be investigated and with probably cause arrested for. That is why they are called crimes. ergo criminal investigation, you think you know what you are talking about which is what makes you scary. You can't just pick and choose which Oregon Revised Statutes you want to look at. Here you go, it clearly says, in the statute you cited:
A peace officer may arrest a person without a warrant if the officer has probable cause to believe that the person has committed any of the following:
(a) A felony.
(b) A misdemeanor.
(c) An unclassified offense for which the maximum penalty allowed by law is equal to or greater than the maximum penalty allowed for a Class C misdemeanor.
The only thing which must be conducted in a police officer's presence is a violation, such as a traffic violation etc. Everything else can be investigated and with probably cause arrested for. That is why they are called crimes. ergo criminal investigation, you think you know what you are talking about which is what makes you scary. You can't just pick and choose which Oregon Revised Statutes you want to look at. Here you go, it clearly says, in the statute you cited:
A peace officer may arrest a person without a warrant if the officer has probable cause to believe that the person has committed any of the following:
(a) A felony.
(b) A misdemeanor.
(c) An unclassified offense for which the maximum penalty allowed by law is equal to or greater than the maximum penalty allowed for a Class C misdemeanor.
wave maker wrote on Mar 28, 2008 4:17 PM:
Rather loose, werent you the one just citing all of these ORS codes that needed to be looked at? From what I gather there was sufficient probable cause to arrest this man.
Thomas wrote on Mar 28, 2008 4:06 PM:
Aside from Grand Juries being somewhat a tool of DA's, Dr. KELLER, primarily in what testimony and evidence they see, The World apparently did publish most of what was pertinent. No words alleged from Mr. Foster, no mention of any arrest notice given to him, nothing but a report of almost immediate resort to overwhelming force by the police following his completely legal refusal to answer questions.
If there is something more out there that paints a different picture of this incident, then The World is remiss in not informing Coos citizens of it. Otherwise, we can only hope Foster's family persues a lawsuit to determine the truth, because this behavior is not what one should support from our police, even if Oregon does have rather loose statutes governing arrest practices.
Footnote: Roshomon & The Oxbow Incident come to mind, unfortunately.
If there is something more out there that paints a different picture of this incident, then The World is remiss in not informing Coos citizens of it. Otherwise, we can only hope Foster's family persues a lawsuit to determine the truth, because this behavior is not what one should support from our police, even if Oregon does have rather loose statutes governing arrest practices.
Footnote: Roshomon & The Oxbow Incident come to mind, unfortunately.
Nancy Keller wrote on Mar 28, 2008 2:45 PM:
Thomas
I encourage you to get a copy of the D.A.s press release on the grand jury's facts and decision. Everything looked extremely legal and by the book to me but I am not a lawyer. I was satisfied with the facts given and apparently so was most of our "peers" that made up the jury.
Nancy Keller
I encourage you to get a copy of the D.A.s press release on the grand jury's facts and decision. Everything looked extremely legal and by the book to me but I am not a lawyer. I was satisfied with the facts given and apparently so was most of our "peers" that made up the jury.
Nancy Keller
Thomas wrote on Mar 28, 2008 1:53 PM:
Oregon law states that police only can make a warrantless arrest on probable cause for a crime they did not witness in felonies and class A misdemeanors, plus a few other special cases not applicable here. Even a broken windshield does not seem sufficient for that type of charge , WAVE MAKER.
Regardless, there is no mention in anything yet published of these officers ever informing Mr Foster they were arresting him, which is required by the statute, before assaulting him.
Regardless, there is no mention in anything yet published of these officers ever informing Mr Foster they were arresting him, which is required by the statute, before assaulting him.
wave maker wrote on Mar 28, 2008 12:45 PM:
Thomas,
I just read ORs 133.310 and I would like to know where it says a crime has to be committed in the presence of the officer! Dude you are way lost and should double check before you make statements that make you look.... well, like you did not do research.
Quit pushing the bull and read what you cite before you cite it. Also look in 133.310 and refer to Probable Cause.
I just read ORs 133.310 and I would like to know where it says a crime has to be committed in the presence of the officer! Dude you are way lost and should double check before you make statements that make you look.... well, like you did not do research.
Quit pushing the bull and read what you cite before you cite it. Also look in 133.310 and refer to Probable Cause.
WAVE MAKER wrote on Mar 28, 2008 12:32 PM:
THOMAS,
Maybe you should read the article again. The Officers' PC (Probable Cause was the statements of his victims the day prior. And, I think that a hammer into the windshield is a far cry from a coffee cup. Read the article again and quit making assumptions. When you assume.......
Maybe you should read the article again. The Officers' PC (Probable Cause was the statements of his victims the day prior. And, I think that a hammer into the windshield is a far cry from a coffee cup. Read the article again and quit making assumptions. When you assume.......
Linda wrote on Mar 28, 2008 11:15 AM:
I would like to know why my comment to Dr. Kellar wasn't posted?????????????????
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 28, 2008 10:55 AM:
Are you implying I don't have support? Wake up - I said GO TO THE FORUM!
Thomas wrote on Mar 28, 2008 10:09 AM:
So, for what unwitnessed Oregon Felony or Class A Misdemeanor crime are these officers basing their alleged attempt to arrest Mr Foster at home w/o a warrant upon, WRONG ......... coffee-cupping a car?
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 28, 2008 9:28 AM:
That's what I was referring to was her lengthy comment....looks like more than 200 to me.
I know you don't know how much support -that's why I ask you to join the forum.
Where haveyou been for the last 8 years? Have you not understood that I HAVE been before the council? - more than once.
I know you don't know how much support -that's why I ask you to join the forum.
Where haveyou been for the last 8 years? Have you not understood that I HAVE been before the council? - more than once.
Bonzo wrote on Mar 28, 2008 9:05 AM:
Cory,
It says 200 words per comment.
As far as community support, I don't know how much you have. I do know that a police chief can be removed from office with enough pressure on the council. If there is truly enough support, get it done.
Never said you were tearing the community apart. This issue seems to be though. Just remember, all that may disagree with your opinions are not your enemy.
It says 200 words per comment.
As far as community support, I don't know how much you have. I do know that a police chief can be removed from office with enough pressure on the council. If there is truly enough support, get it done.
Never said you were tearing the community apart. This issue seems to be though. Just remember, all that may disagree with your opinions are not your enemy.
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 28, 2008 9:00 AM:
Bonzo-
And since when is anything "funny" here? Personally I think it is serious.
And since when is anything "funny" here? Personally I think it is serious.
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 28, 2008 8:42 AM:
Bonzo-
First of all READ - does it not say 200 WORDS OR LESS? Do you not see that?
You do not need to speak of me not having enough support - that is unless you have been back to the forum....you MAY want to change your attitude on that note.
Work to keep the community together not tear it apart further - Do you feel that "I" tore it apart? That doesn't even compute.
First of all READ - does it not say 200 WORDS OR LESS? Do you not see that?
You do not need to speak of me not having enough support - that is unless you have been back to the forum....you MAY want to change your attitude on that note.
Work to keep the community together not tear it apart further - Do you feel that "I" tore it apart? That doesn't even compute.
Bonzo wrote on Mar 28, 2008 8:14 AM:
Pretty funny complaint about Ms. Keller going on and on (considering the person commenting seems to have posted half of the comments on this thread).
If the majority of the community is against the police chief, you can get him removed from office. It seems to me that you must not have that kind of support, or it would have been done by now.
Work to make the community better, not tear it apart further.
If the majority of the community is against the police chief, you can get him removed from office. It seems to me that you must not have that kind of support, or it would have been done by now.
Work to make the community better, not tear it apart further.
Wrong.. wrote on Mar 28, 2008 2:32 AM:
Truth is a police officer can arrest anyone on crimes commited in their presence, probable cause or warrant. Felonies and Misdemeanors are both levels of crimes, so yes with probable cause they could arrest even for a misdemeanor.
ORS 161.545 Misdemeanor: any statute of this state or if a person is convicted may be sentenced to max term not more than one year imprisonment.
ORS 161.525 Felony, ditto except may be sentenced to more than a year.
PS: ORS 133.310 should clear up any misunderstanding.
ORS 161.545 Misdemeanor: any statute of this state or if a person is convicted may be sentenced to max term not more than one year imprisonment.
ORS 161.525 Felony, ditto except may be sentenced to more than a year.
PS: ORS 133.310 should clear up any misunderstanding.
Nancy Keller wrote on Mar 27, 2008 9:50 PM:
Last but not least (and delayed by technical difficulties),
6. If you are not satisfied with the way things are, find ways to improve our community. Propose solutions. The Concerned Citizens of Coquille think all police citizens interactions should be recorded. Should we fundraise to get equipment? I am sure the officers would have appreciated having the equipment to prove that none of the "assumed" police brutality occurred on that dreadful day.
7. Why is there so few positive comments posted? Because you need a bullet proof vest in here. Mine is on so you can fire away (figuratively speaking of course).
Nancy Keller
6. If you are not satisfied with the way things are, find ways to improve our community. Propose solutions. The Concerned Citizens of Coquille think all police citizens interactions should be recorded. Should we fundraise to get equipment? I am sure the officers would have appreciated having the equipment to prove that none of the "assumed" police brutality occurred on that dreadful day.
7. Why is there so few positive comments posted? Because you need a bullet proof vest in here. Mine is on so you can fire away (figuratively speaking of course).
Nancy Keller
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 27, 2008 9:41 PM:
Of course you would say that Teresa Reaves as you are married to the "Chief". "The majority of the citizens are content".......now where exactly did you come up with that statement..and according to what? Did you take some kind of secret poll here or something? And people stop you all the time to tell you that they support the PD? Hogwash! I don't believe that for a minute.
I'm also wondering why the good Doctor is allowed to go on and on and on.......no one else is supposed to do that. Didn't I hear 200 words was the limit? Oh, that's right she has DR. in front of her name so she is an acception, right? Something wrong with these two women that they can't make it back to the forum? Maybe, just maybe they might wanna come back here and fix their "BOO BOOS".
I'm also wondering why the good Doctor is allowed to go on and on and on.......no one else is supposed to do that. Didn't I hear 200 words was the limit? Oh, that's right she has DR. in front of her name so she is an acception, right? Something wrong with these two women that they can't make it back to the forum? Maybe, just maybe they might wanna come back here and fix their "BOO BOOS".
wave maker wrote on Mar 27, 2008 6:09 PM:
So, the most commented is now gone.
You people are lost, you have no idea of what it takes to arrest someone. The fifth amendment guarantees you the right to remain silent, however, that does not bar you from being arrested. Like I said earlier in the other comments section, that is now gone, Keep your secrets about the bad-doers and keep them being bad. I am disappointed in this community for these types of actions. You all need to take a long look in the mirror and reflect. Think about living with yourself for taking the sides of criminals and being against the good guys. The ideology that all cops lie is like saying that all cars are red. Some cars may be red but most are not.
You people are lost, you have no idea of what it takes to arrest someone. The fifth amendment guarantees you the right to remain silent, however, that does not bar you from being arrested. Like I said earlier in the other comments section, that is now gone, Keep your secrets about the bad-doers and keep them being bad. I am disappointed in this community for these types of actions. You all need to take a long look in the mirror and reflect. Think about living with yourself for taking the sides of criminals and being against the good guys. The ideology that all cops lie is like saying that all cars are red. Some cars may be red but most are not.
Linda wrote on Mar 27, 2008 4:58 PM:
To Kellar Excuse me "but" I think I remember where they just change a law if you have faulty equipment on your vehicle it's to bad, even if you take in proof you had it fixed.. And what you get a warning? Do you think we are all total idiots, Doctor? Or are you now just trying to cover your hinny on your statements?
Teresa Reaves wrote on Mar 27, 2008 9:21 AM:
Many thanks, Dr. Keller. You are correct that the majority of the citezen's are content and thus do not come forward. I have people stop me all of the time to tell me that they supoort the PD. Thank you so very much for what you did. It really gave the guys a boost and most importantly improved their moralle. Thank you!
Thomas wrote on Mar 27, 2008 7:40 AM:
It is not a crime to refuse answering police questions.
For most misdemeanors, police can only make an arrest if the offense was committed in their presence, but they can arrest for felonies based upon witness statements, or with a warrant.
If there was no police witness, nor felony charge, nor warrent, then it appears that Mr Foster was illegally assaulted by these officers ........ does that behavior merit support?
For most misdemeanors, police can only make an arrest if the offense was committed in their presence, but they can arrest for felonies based upon witness statements, or with a warrant.
If there was no police witness, nor felony charge, nor warrent, then it appears that Mr Foster was illegally assaulted by these officers ........ does that behavior merit support?
Nancy Keller wrote on Mar 26, 2008 4:11 PM:
Still more (I did not realize I was so verbose)
4. I did not do the rally for advertising (I have way too much business). In fact I was scared to do it but I just could not watch the police be put down by the vocal few. The content citizens of Coquille and Coos County are happy and not necessarily vocal. The police officers needed to be reminded that most of us appreciate them. I do not want them to become bitter or give up on our city and move elsewhere. They are wonderful people and we need to keep them!
5. I planned the rally a week ahead but the newspaper did not print the letter to the editor or the story till the day or two beforehand. The people who showed up were due to the story and the letter in the newspapers. I have many people who still come up to me and wish they had known about it so they could have been there.
Nancy Keller
4. I did not do the rally for advertising (I have way too much business). In fact I was scared to do it but I just could not watch the police be put down by the vocal few. The content citizens of Coquille and Coos County are happy and not necessarily vocal. The police officers needed to be reminded that most of us appreciate them. I do not want them to become bitter or give up on our city and move elsewhere. They are wonderful people and we need to keep them!
5. I planned the rally a week ahead but the newspaper did not print the letter to the editor or the story till the day or two beforehand. The people who showed up were due to the story and the letter in the newspapers. I have many people who still come up to me and wish they had known about it so they could have been there.
Nancy Keller
Nancy Keller wrote on Mar 26, 2008 4:09 PM:
More from me (boy is this hard now!)
2. I have talked with a lot of people. Headlights, blinkers, yellow lights are generally given a warning on the first offense. If repeated, then expect a ticket. I was just trying to convey that I did not mind the police officer pulling me over. It does not represent harrassment. It is a way for them to check for impaired drivers. I appreciate them doing it.
3. If I do an illegal U-turn or do not wear my seat belt, I expect a ticket! Police officers do not make the laws, they enforce them.
Nancy Keller
2. I have talked with a lot of people. Headlights, blinkers, yellow lights are generally given a warning on the first offense. If repeated, then expect a ticket. I was just trying to convey that I did not mind the police officer pulling me over. It does not represent harrassment. It is a way for them to check for impaired drivers. I appreciate them doing it.
3. If I do an illegal U-turn or do not wear my seat belt, I expect a ticket! Police officers do not make the laws, they enforce them.
Nancy Keller
Nancy Keller wrote on Mar 26, 2008 4:06 PM:
Hi everyone! (Been quiet the last few days so not sure if anyone still comes here)
I was gone for a bit taking the Coquille Chess Teams to the state competition where we had a great time and were quite successful. Hopefully The World will be writing about us soon. I encourage all of you who are discouraged about things here in Coos County to find ways to volunteer and make improvements in our area.
I have finally found time to respond to some of the comments I found when I returned.
1. Doctors do get tickets. Ask my husband. He loves to tease me about mine and that he does not get them. I want you to note that I never mentioned if I got a ticket or not in my earlier comment. A false assumption was made.
I will be posting more (if allowed) in just a few moments as there is a new word limit.
Nancy Keller
I was gone for a bit taking the Coquille Chess Teams to the state competition where we had a great time and were quite successful. Hopefully The World will be writing about us soon. I encourage all of you who are discouraged about things here in Coos County to find ways to volunteer and make improvements in our area.
I have finally found time to respond to some of the comments I found when I returned.
1. Doctors do get tickets. Ask my husband. He loves to tease me about mine and that he does not get them. I want you to note that I never mentioned if I got a ticket or not in my earlier comment. A false assumption was made.
I will be posting more (if allowed) in just a few moments as there is a new word limit.
Nancy Keller
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 23, 2008 11:28 AM:
Many thanks to Jennifer Freeman! (no relation?)Guys - we're back on the forum - join us back there - if you can't get there - let the editor know- she will help you along.
Big John wrote on Mar 22, 2008 7:57 PM:
I realize some moderation is required to prevent comments which perhaps might be personal attacks or in extremely poor taste (foul language, etc); however, The World apparently has taken the stance of becoming a censor. It's fairly obvious to anyone who frequents the comments sections of any "story" that The World censors any comment which doesn't support their slant on a given story. I seldom read The World for several reasons, the primary reason being that I don't feel The World actually reports the news. Generally The World writes an article and the article takes a position. It's also obvious that many stories are written without any verification of the facts being reported on. It's not a problem that's unique to The World. What happened to the ideal of "reporting the news" without taking a position? Of course I don't expect my comment to make it past the "censors", but at least I've forced someone to read it.
Big John
Big John
Angelina wrote on Mar 22, 2008 7:41 PM:
The forum is a great idea in theory, too bad I can't register. It's an issue on the World's end. How long until it's fixed so people can actually join?
Jennifer Freeman wrote on Mar 22, 2008 4:26 PM:
First I would like to say that my heart aches for Cory Courtright and her family...I'm so sorry for your incredible loss. The mind fails to understand how someone can come to grips and deal with that kind of tragedy. I came accross the Leah Freeman case online last week....and let me say, It's mind blowing that this case hasn't been solved 8 years later. I'm not from Coquille and I don't know anyone from Coquille...but even I know this....there are people in that town who know exactly what happened to Leah. How they sleep at night, is beyond my comprehension....that kind of evil should not be allowed to walk the streets and enjoy the same freedoms as you and I. Why hasn't someone stepped up and told the truth? Don't give up Cory....it may not be today, maybe not tomorrow, but one day, justice will prevail.
ANNOYED wrote on Mar 22, 2008 9:22 AM:
What better way to advertise yourself DOCTOR...pat on the back to you for being so clever on getting the spotlight on you. You should be proud. This community baffles me. TWISTED would be a great word. Thank goodness I am not from Coquille
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 21, 2008 4:35 PM:
Linda,
Thank you for your kind words. Thank you also for reminding us of Jeremy.
Thank you for your kind words. Thank you also for reminding us of Jeremy.
Linda wrote on Mar 21, 2008 4:22 PM:
To Lester, Cory Courtright is a victim and will be for the rest of her life. So is the Bright family. How dare you? I didn't even know Leah and I'll always remember this tragedy. Maybe because I'm human and a Mother. All I can say is hey Lester, you'll meet your maker someday, maybe.
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 21, 2008 2:33 PM:
What's wrong LESTER - can't find your way to the forum?
Webby wrote on Mar 21, 2008 2:30 PM:
To: Open Yr Eyes/Sorrow
I have gone in and set you to active, sometimes computers are fallable as are we humans, but rest assured we try and make sure everyone can get in and have some fun in the forums.
I have gone in and set you to active, sometimes computers are fallable as are we humans, but rest assured we try and make sure everyone can get in and have some fun in the forums.
Open Yr Eyes/Sorrow wrote on Mar 21, 2008 2:18 PM:
I am trying to get in to the forum,I have sighned up and didn't get an email after.now I tryed again and it said username-email already taken??how do i fix this??
Lester wrote on Mar 21, 2008 1:44 PM:
LC...
Do you not every watch unsolved mysteries or forensic files? Some cases are never solved. Quit blaming the police...they didn't kill her.
Do you not every watch unsolved mysteries or forensic files? Some cases are never solved. Quit blaming the police...they didn't kill her.
LC wrote on Mar 21, 2008 10:32 AM:
LESTER...Speak for yourself. Why shoudn't Cory still be very upset. The police botched up the investigation into her daughter's murder and tried to cover up their mistakes. She deserves an answer. The investigation should never be over until the guilty are found and prosecuted. My bet is they are still in the area and more questions need to be asked of those who knew and hung out with Leah.
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 21, 2008 9:07 AM:
Well I hope you all can join me at the forum...........Thanks Kathy - did you fix that or did I?????!!!
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 21, 2008 7:43 AM:
Guess Mr. Cook didn't want to discuss any of the other cases. I can understand that..... I'd be at a loss for words too. Thanks for publishing my comments editor.
Lester wrote on Mar 21, 2008 7:31 AM:
Why do you all allow Cory Courtright to remain a victim? Yes...it's sad her daughter was killed. But, come on now...she's making us all hate hearing about it..over and over and over and over. Sometimes one should look in the mirror to see where the problem lies...
MILF wrote on Mar 21, 2008 12:10 AM:
OOOHHH!!!I guess the story of Barb Mauver wont be posted it must be to truthful.does anyone besides the county police remember this name???She was the lady who was known to be a drug user by police and still allowed to drive our children around on the school bus,because she was helping police as a snitch
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 20, 2008 7:20 PM:
Editor-
Since you are being so unfair and not printing what I say You better hope the Leah Freeman case never gets solved cause you'll have to rely on law enforcement for your story - you won't get one outta me. I'll give it to a newspaper who will be fair and honest.
Since you are being so unfair and not printing what I say You better hope the Leah Freeman case never gets solved cause you'll have to rely on law enforcement for your story - you won't get one outta me. I'll give it to a newspaper who will be fair and honest.
Mike Cook wrote on Mar 20, 2008 6:51 PM:
LC you can't seem to read either, I was not involved as I had retired before this crime took place. Police solve crimes by getting information from people. The more people they talk with the better the chance to solve the crime.
When a detective tells me that better than half the people wouldn't even talk to them that causes me concern and should also cause you concern. The detective was from the Oregon State Police and not a Coquille Police Officer.
As you were not involved in the investigation how do you know or should I say what do you think you know?
It's attitudes like yours that make it safe for criminals in our area.
Magix I was not talking down to anyone I was trying to explain for those interested why crimes don't always get solved. You all need to get off the defensive and listen for a change.
Soneone has the knowledge to solve this crime, if that person would come forward then perhaps Cory could live the rest of her life with less trouble, however it will never replace her loved one.
For the rest of you the police are not abusive in Coquille. They may be aggresive and working hard to keep the city safe. This city is much more safe now due to the trafic enforcement. We haven't had a fatel traffic accident in a long time. I for one think that is great. It could have been one of your family members that was saved because you got a ticket, that is why we have laws after all. If you violate them you get in trouble. With luck it will change you so that you don't do it again. However if you see it as being picked on then it did you no good and you will one day suffer for it.
Wake up and see it for what it is.
When a detective tells me that better than half the people wouldn't even talk to them that causes me concern and should also cause you concern. The detective was from the Oregon State Police and not a Coquille Police Officer.
As you were not involved in the investigation how do you know or should I say what do you think you know?
It's attitudes like yours that make it safe for criminals in our area.
Magix I was not talking down to anyone I was trying to explain for those interested why crimes don't always get solved. You all need to get off the defensive and listen for a change.
Soneone has the knowledge to solve this crime, if that person would come forward then perhaps Cory could live the rest of her life with less trouble, however it will never replace her loved one.
For the rest of you the police are not abusive in Coquille. They may be aggresive and working hard to keep the city safe. This city is much more safe now due to the trafic enforcement. We haven't had a fatel traffic accident in a long time. I for one think that is great. It could have been one of your family members that was saved because you got a ticket, that is why we have laws after all. If you violate them you get in trouble. With luck it will change you so that you don't do it again. However if you see it as being picked on then it did you no good and you will one day suffer for it.
Wake up and see it for what it is.
chs89 wrote on Mar 20, 2008 6:47 PM:
Whoever supplies Coquille with internet service should cut the entire town off to protect the civilized world from this drivel.
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 20, 2008 5:48 PM:
Mr. Cook,
Oh great! Here we go again! You are just another one to add to my list of those "know-it-alls". Amazing. Once again ANOTHER person that seems to have so much more knowledge of MY daughters case than I know myself. Makes me sick.
You can defend the men in blue all you want - be interesting to take a poll to see just how many citizens would stand behind them or me. I'm thinking from the looks of this blog and others I may have quite a line.
Babble on all you like......I will simply keep striving for Justice for Leah.
BTW, could you give me your opinion on just how professional recent cases have been handled by CPD? Such as the Carl Foster case.....and how about the guy at the Four Seasons - was it a writing pen he had and they shot him...can't remember if he survived. Anyway I think you know what I'm talking about. Just curious how you feel about those cases.
Oh great! Here we go again! You are just another one to add to my list of those "know-it-alls". Amazing. Once again ANOTHER person that seems to have so much more knowledge of MY daughters case than I know myself. Makes me sick.
You can defend the men in blue all you want - be interesting to take a poll to see just how many citizens would stand behind them or me. I'm thinking from the looks of this blog and others I may have quite a line.
Babble on all you like......I will simply keep striving for Justice for Leah.
BTW, could you give me your opinion on just how professional recent cases have been handled by CPD? Such as the Carl Foster case.....and how about the guy at the Four Seasons - was it a writing pen he had and they shot him...can't remember if he survived. Anyway I think you know what I'm talking about. Just curious how you feel about those cases.
Kay wrote on Mar 20, 2008 5:03 PM:
I've stated this before, I have always lived in small towns, in three states, NEVER, have I seen this kind of pervasive distrust of a local police dept. There is something very wrong here, where there is smoke there is fire. How many injuries occur to citizens in encounters with police in Coquille, versus how many officers have EVER received serious injuries.
I disagree with Nick, I don't believe it is fear, I believe it is arrogance, from the top down. These cowboys know now, with "their" guy the D.A., they can literally do as they please, no consequences.
All humans have to be held accountable for their personal actions, a badge or a position of power is no excuse to harm another human being.
At a gathering in Coquille Wed. afternoon, one of our participants, a military veteran by the way, was asked to show his I D while walking down the sidewalk to participate in our vigil. 4:30 in the afternoon, he was told the officer "didn't know who he was". Now, some of you may think great, but I think when a citizen cannot walk down the street of any city, without being asked for "his papers", we're all in a lot of trouble!
If that is the action you applaud, you will get what you deserve: "Expect power to be abused". It's human nature, and when officers know they will not be held accountable we all will suffer.
I offer my profound apology to this veteran.
I disagree with Nick, I don't believe it is fear, I believe it is arrogance, from the top down. These cowboys know now, with "their" guy the D.A., they can literally do as they please, no consequences.
All humans have to be held accountable for their personal actions, a badge or a position of power is no excuse to harm another human being.
At a gathering in Coquille Wed. afternoon, one of our participants, a military veteran by the way, was asked to show his I D while walking down the sidewalk to participate in our vigil. 4:30 in the afternoon, he was told the officer "didn't know who he was". Now, some of you may think great, but I think when a citizen cannot walk down the street of any city, without being asked for "his papers", we're all in a lot of trouble!
If that is the action you applaud, you will get what you deserve: "Expect power to be abused". It's human nature, and when officers know they will not be held accountable we all will suffer.
I offer my profound apology to this veteran.
Nick wrote on Mar 20, 2008 4:38 PM:
By the way, the police aren't "protecting" our rights to freedom of speech. That's mainly the responsibility of the military.
Contrary to the beliefs of many officers and some citizens, police are NOT military members, and they do not deserve the same treatment. Military members literally risk their lives every day... police officers just think they do. That doesn't mean that officers cannot be killed, but the FEAR that exists overwhelms the reality that officers are almost never killed.
Contrary to the beliefs of many officers and some citizens, police are NOT military members, and they do not deserve the same treatment. Military members literally risk their lives every day... police officers just think they do. That doesn't mean that officers cannot be killed, but the FEAR that exists overwhelms the reality that officers are almost never killed.
Nick wrote on Mar 20, 2008 4:31 PM:
Mike, you should now ask "why don't people in Coquille trust their police officers?" This kind of attitude would not occur in a vacuum... so why does it occur here? Maybe, just maybe, people became sick of an abuse of power from some officers?
I've received a ticket from the CPD after an officer pulled me over a mile outside of Coquille, for "speeding" in a speed zone I had long passed when he clocked me. That's not what a police officer should do (well, lying and revenue generation are two things a police officer should not be involved with), and it certainly isn't worthy of much respect. The officer was not impolite, but he was the first officer I've ever encountered who appeared to be fearful of the person he was pulling over (noting that I'm FAR from a shady-looking character). The officer's mannerisms were not consistent with his voice. That kind of attitude (or unnecessary physical fear) is what leads to an "accidental" broken neck.
Heck, in Corvallis, the officers are even more focused on revenue, but save Officer Cox (who was recently let go for his career-long pattern of lies involving "drunk" drivers), they are polite and aren't fearful of anyone.
About the only south coast police force worthy of any respect are North Bend officers. They seem to hire people who are not out there to generate revenue exclusively, and they actually listen to all parties if there is some sort of dispute, and make sound judgments.
I've received a ticket from the CPD after an officer pulled me over a mile outside of Coquille, for "speeding" in a speed zone I had long passed when he clocked me. That's not what a police officer should do (well, lying and revenue generation are two things a police officer should not be involved with), and it certainly isn't worthy of much respect. The officer was not impolite, but he was the first officer I've ever encountered who appeared to be fearful of the person he was pulling over (noting that I'm FAR from a shady-looking character). The officer's mannerisms were not consistent with his voice. That kind of attitude (or unnecessary physical fear) is what leads to an "accidental" broken neck.
Heck, in Corvallis, the officers are even more focused on revenue, but save Officer Cox (who was recently let go for his career-long pattern of lies involving "drunk" drivers), they are polite and aren't fearful of anyone.
About the only south coast police force worthy of any respect are North Bend officers. They seem to hire people who are not out there to generate revenue exclusively, and they actually listen to all parties if there is some sort of dispute, and make sound judgments.
magix wrote on Mar 20, 2008 3:47 PM:
Mike Cook - You may want to "make" people understand. Speaking down to them, in particular, Cory Courtright who is very intelligent will only "make" those same people you are blaming for the failure to solve a murder distrust you and other law enforcement even more.
LC wrote on Mar 20, 2008 3:24 PM:
MIKE COOK...HOW DARE YOU!!!! You and the others that investigated are the ones who botched up the evidence !! People did come forward and talk to the police and were ignored (Meth heads and all). So don't you dare slander the people who still want this solved. Why should we trust the police when they have been dishonest all along!
Mike Cook wrote on Mar 20, 2008 12:53 PM:
Cory I was not involved in the investigation of your daughters homicide, however I have talked with some of the officers involved, some now retired. Let me say that you seem to blame law enforcement for not solving this crime. They do take some of the blame and so they should, all of them would like nothing more than to solve this and every crime, in real life that doesn't happen. I will say that a large part of the blame belongs to the people of Coquille. Their lack of respect and trust of law enforcement, that is very well stated in many of these posts point this out, is why this case was not solved. One of the lead detectives told me he was amazed at the lack of people in Coquille to get involved and even talk to police. He went on to explain when going from house to house to talk with people they would slam the door in his face and refuse to talk to him. This attitude is what keeps this case from being solved. Law enforcement can only go on information that people give them. When they won't talk to them cases don't get solved.
Why were so many people not getting involved by talking to the police? Someone in this city knows who did this crime and could come forward and solve this very easy. All they need to do is the right thing. Blaming it all on the police and the DA will not help solve this case. Put the blame where it belongs with the person who did this crime and those who know about it and will not talk to the police. As citizens we need to work with law enforcement, not put them down all the time, to make our city a better place to live and not a safe area for crime.
I hope this makes you understand the problem.
Why were so many people not getting involved by talking to the police? Someone in this city knows who did this crime and could come forward and solve this very easy. All they need to do is the right thing. Blaming it all on the police and the DA will not help solve this case. Put the blame where it belongs with the person who did this crime and those who know about it and will not talk to the police. As citizens we need to work with law enforcement, not put them down all the time, to make our city a better place to live and not a safe area for crime.
I hope this makes you understand the problem.
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 20, 2008 11:42 AM:
This is such bull - that's it. Subscription to The World - CANCELLED!!!
connila gillette wrote on Mar 19, 2008 3:30 PM:
I have a problem with kellers story in the paper she said she staeted organizing rally a week ago and in her letter she said a day or two.when she was stoped for running a yellow light or failing to use her blinkers does she or the police think if she had caused an accident the people would be less dead than if a drunk or someone with a medical condition has cause it.{ at least they would have had an excuse for what they done whats hers}But I think the last line in her comment was the most telling. opinions as a individualand not reflect opions at work.Is she trying to say because she has the dr in front of her name makes her better than us old regular people.I always taught my kids along with privilege goes responsibility. But I am now reminded of mrs.Eleanor Roosevelt,s quote { people will try to put you down if you let them. don't let them}
Woodsman wrote on Mar 19, 2008 2:17 PM:
Incredible. Dr. Keller wants to show her appreciation for the police and she gets trashed for it.
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 19, 2008 1:20 PM:
CCB-
Oh how I wish there were something ANYONE could do. My hands are tied, and law enforcement tells me NOTHING. Eight years is a long ole go of it. So so much in-between stuff that most don't realize. HEY! - PERHAPS DR. KELLER COULD FIX MY BROKEN HEART!! No, seriously I'll stick with my doctor. Any way - thank you for asking what you could do though - that is appreciated.
Oh how I wish there were something ANYONE could do. My hands are tied, and law enforcement tells me NOTHING. Eight years is a long ole go of it. So so much in-between stuff that most don't realize. HEY! - PERHAPS DR. KELLER COULD FIX MY BROKEN HEART!! No, seriously I'll stick with my doctor. Any way - thank you for asking what you could do though - that is appreciated.
what the heck wrote on Mar 19, 2008 1:07 PM:
And if the doctor did get a ticket you would be complaining that her fine was lower, or the police were nicer to her, or she didn't have to pull over in mud, yada, yada, yada.
LC wrote on Mar 19, 2008 12:38 PM:
KAY...That is why there are so many people so ticked off. There is unfair, biased treatment going on in town. Perfect example: Keller not getting tickets that the rest of us would get.
Linda wrote on Mar 19, 2008 12:11 PM:
To Kay, I think the key word is doctor. Attorney, cop, judge and others names help in not getting sited too. Just plain old real people pay.
ccb wrote on Mar 19, 2008 11:34 AM:
Cory Courtright
Your agonized pain is apparant. Is there something we can do?
Your agonized pain is apparant. Is there something we can do?
Kay wrote on Mar 19, 2008 11:22 AM:
It's so refreshing to hear Dr. Keller being so very, very thankful.
Let's add this to her list:
She just admitted in a public letter, she and her hubby have both been stopped for vehicle violations, and neither of them were ticketed.
Obviously she doesn't realize that her "bragging" about how wonderful it was that she was stopped, and treated so pleasantly, BUT NOT TICKETED, is a big part of the problem.
Please someone, why was the good doctor not ticketed by the Coquille police?
Can those of us who didn't signal, and have lights out, causing unsafe driving conditions, and WERE ticketed be reimbursed and have our records changed?
I'll be thankful when I can repeatedly break the law and be treated with respect.
PLease think out your words more carefully, doctor.
Let's add this to her list:
She just admitted in a public letter, she and her hubby have both been stopped for vehicle violations, and neither of them were ticketed.
Obviously she doesn't realize that her "bragging" about how wonderful it was that she was stopped, and treated so pleasantly, BUT NOT TICKETED, is a big part of the problem.
Please someone, why was the good doctor not ticketed by the Coquille police?
Can those of us who didn't signal, and have lights out, causing unsafe driving conditions, and WERE ticketed be reimbursed and have our records changed?
I'll be thankful when I can repeatedly break the law and be treated with respect.
PLease think out your words more carefully, doctor.
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 19, 2008 10:39 AM:
Nice to see all the thankfulness Dr. Keller has. And it does appear she has a great deal to be thankful for. I wish I could say the same. Regarding her bike issue - I just must be jealous that they didn't look out so much ofr my child.
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 19, 2008 9:20 AM:
I got up this morning and reread the article and comments. I guess I do owe DH (the 22 yr old)an apology which I have given. I hope he sees where I made the mistake - which was an honest one. Moonpenny I have exhausted myself for almost 8 years now trying to do what I can to help solve Leah's murder. Much as I hate to say it, I am to the give up point. I think I need to just try to live life to the best of my abilities -even though she's gone.
Nancy Keller wrote on Mar 19, 2008 9:18 AM:
Hi everyone
First off, I want to thank everyone who braved the horrible weather to help me thank the police officers for their willingness to do a job most of us would be unwilling to do. I thought it was a huge success with only a day or two of notice and despite the horrible weather (I was soaked within the first half hour). Many people have come to me afterwards, wishing they had known about the event and that they could have been there.
These police officers are effectively gagged by regulations and cannot defend themselves. Most of us realize it. Overall, I find many people are glad to have our police officers and find them friendly and doing their job well.
I (fortunately) have limited interaction with the police but let me tell you some of the things I have seen them do and am thankful for.
I am thankful when I see them pull off to the side of the road to deal with large pieces of garbage in the roadway that the rest of us are swerving around as we speed by in our hurried lives.
I am thankful when they pull me over for not turning on my blinker or for running a yellow light as they are looking for the impaired drivers either due to intoxicants or medical conditions.
I am thankful for them checking on late night working places to make sure everything is OK.
I am thankful when they called me about two girls bikes that were found alongside the road and they wanted to check and make sure the girls were OK and had not been abducted. They called me to find out who would have a chess nut bumper sticker on their bike.
I am thankful they pulled over the car with the "obstructed windshield" and found those dangerous pipe bombs.
I am thankful when I have to deal with violent people, I can call them to help me and protect me.
Then there is the general security of knowing they are out there, a phone call away. They can only help as the law allows but I appreciate them. I pray for their safety everyday as they provide the presence to deter crime and are the ones who are called to deal with stuff the rest of us can run away from.
Remember, I write these opinions as an individual and they do not necessarily reflect opinions at my work places.
Nancy Keller
First off, I want to thank everyone who braved the horrible weather to help me thank the police officers for their willingness to do a job most of us would be unwilling to do. I thought it was a huge success with only a day or two of notice and despite the horrible weather (I was soaked within the first half hour). Many people have come to me afterwards, wishing they had known about the event and that they could have been there.
These police officers are effectively gagged by regulations and cannot defend themselves. Most of us realize it. Overall, I find many people are glad to have our police officers and find them friendly and doing their job well.
I (fortunately) have limited interaction with the police but let me tell you some of the things I have seen them do and am thankful for.
I am thankful when I see them pull off to the side of the road to deal with large pieces of garbage in the roadway that the rest of us are swerving around as we speed by in our hurried lives.
I am thankful when they pull me over for not turning on my blinker or for running a yellow light as they are looking for the impaired drivers either due to intoxicants or medical conditions.
I am thankful for them checking on late night working places to make sure everything is OK.
I am thankful when they called me about two girls bikes that were found alongside the road and they wanted to check and make sure the girls were OK and had not been abducted. They called me to find out who would have a chess nut bumper sticker on their bike.
I am thankful they pulled over the car with the "obstructed windshield" and found those dangerous pipe bombs.
I am thankful when I have to deal with violent people, I can call them to help me and protect me.
Then there is the general security of knowing they are out there, a phone call away. They can only help as the law allows but I appreciate them. I pray for their safety everyday as they provide the presence to deter crime and are the ones who are called to deal with stuff the rest of us can run away from.
Remember, I write these opinions as an individual and they do not necessarily reflect opinions at my work places.
Nancy Keller
m00npenny wrote on Mar 18, 2008 11:29 PM:
Cory, no one can feel or know what you have been through, and I wont pretend to know. What I can see is that you have some clear cut ideas where change is needed. Have you considered *choke gag*, politics? I mean for our local area. You and others in your position are the ones that make the changes. Without those, its business as usual. If you see there needs to be change, then be the one to make it happen.
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 18, 2008 10:08 PM:
To the editor -
I've looked back over this article and the comments and I don't see where anyone has gotten out of line. I know I don't see what you don't print - but there have been comments of my own that you haven't printed. What's the problem?
I've looked back over this article and the comments and I don't see where anyone has gotten out of line. I know I don't see what you don't print - but there have been comments of my own that you haven't printed. What's the problem?
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HD wrote on Mar 18, 2008 4:38 PM:
to DH:
COPS do not protect our "rights" sheesh. cops are here to keep the peace and attend to lawbreakers. LAWYERS, LOBBYISTS, POLITICIANS, AND HIGH COURT JUDGES protect our rights.
COPS do not protect our "rights" sheesh. cops are here to keep the peace and attend to lawbreakers. LAWYERS, LOBBYISTS, POLITICIANS, AND HIGH COURT JUDGES protect our rights.
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 18, 2008 4:04 PM:
Well is this about to get confusing or what??? If you go to the article "Coquille Officers Won't Be Charged" you will clearly see that in about the middle of the 108 comments you will see someone posted as DH. Hmmmm....can you see the similarities? Just think, if people would just use their own name maybe things like that wouldn't happen. If that's not you then I guess I apologize to you for an honest mistake.............THAT'S the DH I was referring to. Geeesss....
Even coming from someone so supportive of law enforcement, would you feel the same if it were your daughter who was murdered? Not that I would EVER wish that upon any one......but think of all you've learned about the Leah Freeman case and tell me seriously would you?
You also mentioned rights - what about Leah Freeman's rights - Yep a USA citizen..........pathetic.
Even coming from someone so supportive of law enforcement, would you feel the same if it were your daughter who was murdered? Not that I would EVER wish that upon any one......but think of all you've learned about the Leah Freeman case and tell me seriously would you?
You also mentioned rights - what about Leah Freeman's rights - Yep a USA citizen..........pathetic.
DH wrote on Mar 18, 2008 3:21 PM:
RE COURTRIGHT
I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU THINK I AM BUT I HAVE NEVER WORKED FOR CPD. I AM A 22 YEAR OLD CITIZEN WHO SUPPORTS LAW ENFORCEMENT. BUT IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH YOUR INCENDIARY COMMENTS ABOUT POEPLE WHO SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT IS YOUR RIGHT. A RIGHT THAT COPS WORK TO PROTECT EVERYDAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU THINK I AM BUT I HAVE NEVER WORKED FOR CPD. I AM A 22 YEAR OLD CITIZEN WHO SUPPORTS LAW ENFORCEMENT. BUT IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH YOUR INCENDIARY COMMENTS ABOUT POEPLE WHO SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT IS YOUR RIGHT. A RIGHT THAT COPS WORK TO PROTECT EVERYDAY.
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Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 18, 2008 2:58 PM:
Apparently they aren't going to print all I said. Sorry I tried. Sure isn't fair to the readers or myself.
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 18, 2008 12:47 PM:
To What The Heck-
Don't you think it would be more effective if DH answered that? Saddened wanted to talk about honesty -so here's his chance - boy would I love to hear his honesty on that one!!! However I will tell you if he doesn't, so let's give him his chance.
Don't you think it would be more effective if DH answered that? Saddened wanted to talk about honesty -so here's his chance - boy would I love to hear his honesty on that one!!! However I will tell you if he doesn't, so let's give him his chance.
non-yo-biz wrote on Mar 18, 2008 12:42 PM:
I don't know much about the all of the cases cited, but I DO know that the Freeman case was bungled from the beginning. From Reeves all the way up to Burgett. Maybe that's why Burgett retired - conscience was keeping him awake. At least Reeves, Burgett, Frasier and Leah's murderer get to wake up in the mornings. Leah will never wake up again.
Leah, you are not forgotten.
Leah, you are not forgotten.
Linda wrote on Mar 18, 2008 12:37 PM:
To JJrunner, so if there's 50 people a dozen is almost a third, by my calculations. If there's a problem with a 1/3 of the population,I'd say that there must be some kind of issue.
Open Yr Eyes/sorrow wrote on Mar 18, 2008 11:25 AM:
Saddend- Who are you to tell Cory what she has said to Bryant?? Where you there??No you don't get it cause you don't want to,are you saddened cause maybe you are part of the problem we face??And LESTER- YES I think they should let Cory speek her mind,and post her last comment and all.The D.A. can not give her any peace of mind at the time and this is her way to speek her mind.
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 18, 2008 11:01 AM:
Hmmmmm......Wonder what happened to DH -must not have wanted to explain why he left here.
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 18, 2008 9:38 AM:
To the editor - you need to print my last comment. There was NOTHING wrong with it and I think the readers should get a chance to read it and respond.
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 18, 2008 9:03 AM:
First of all Saddened I didn't go down there to thank Bryant and show ANY support. I don't really care what CCC knows about me - or ANYBODY else for that matter. FYI - I went down there to see what was going on and Bryant and his wife pulled up beside me and got out of their rig and spoke to me. Something had ocurred over the previous weekend and we talked of it. It had NOTHING to do with what was going on at the Courthouse. And if ya don't believe that - feel free to call Officer Bryant yourself. Go ahead - and by the way - can you tell me just exactly how long I was there in front of the courthouse? Yep - that's what I thought. Are you saying I am dishonest? Why would I be?
Saddened wrote on Mar 18, 2008 1:20 AM:
Talk about honesty, so Cory does the CCC know about you going down to the courthouse to thank Bryant and show your appreciation???? I don't get it
jjrunner wrote on Mar 17, 2008 8:22 PM:
QUOTE((30 People is "not" a large turnout. Unless there are only 50 people in Coquille!))
Then the dozen that gathered to protest against them is even more insignificant.
Then the dozen that gathered to protest against them is even more insignificant.
Linda wrote on Mar 17, 2008 10:19 AM:
30 People is "not" a large turnout. Unless there are only 50 people in Coquille!
Editor's note wrote on Mar 17, 2008 8:27 AM:
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just me wrote on Mar 17, 2008 8:17 AM:
OFRBES- People have to right to speak about these topics and show their feelings. How about you not read about it. especially, if you cannot come up with something educational or fact based to say. Back off!!
Thomas wrote on Mar 17, 2008 7:05 AM:
"Support" is one of those logical fallacies known as an Unconcretized Abstraction, and we certainly see such terms much over used nowadays, as if they actually meant something.
These vague words are mostly used as a club to cow dissent, and do nothing to further any dialog. Please define what supporting means other than an empty slogan for feel-good placards and car ribbons.
These vague words are mostly used as a club to cow dissent, and do nothing to further any dialog. Please define what supporting means other than an empty slogan for feel-good placards and car ribbons.
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 16, 2008 11:07 PM:
MP Resident -
Actually I don't believe that case was screwed up was it? Did the perpetrator not turn himself in the very next day and from there on paid his dues until the state saw fit to release him? Correct me if I am wrong, but after 20 years one has a tendency to forget.
Actually I don't believe that case was screwed up was it? Did the perpetrator not turn himself in the very next day and from there on paid his dues until the state saw fit to release him? Correct me if I am wrong, but after 20 years one has a tendency to forget.
MP resident wrote on Mar 16, 2008 8:37 PM:
Cory- I noticed that you left out the 1986 shooting of Stacey Robison when naming cases.... that CPD screwed up. Is was Just AS IMPORTANT.
Lester wrote on Mar 16, 2008 7:04 PM:
Why do you at the paper allow cory courtright to say and do what ever she wants and sensor everyone else?
?????????? wrote on Mar 16, 2008 3:38 PM:
Jimmy please tell us what happens to a person once they are already down on the ground?? What is the cpd procedures for this? and please try to recall just what exactly happened during this one? Some of us know the truth, not everythings a secret in a small town
???????????????? wrote on Mar 16, 2008 2:41 PM:
The the world newspaper, I find it necessary to post comments just for show, and to get answers. No need to pick sides on this. lets post the truth here.
lester wrote on Mar 16, 2008 2:21 PM:
You people always seem to turn everything back to you. You are just a bunch of media hounds. Get a life...move away if you hate it here.
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 16, 2008 12:56 PM:
Hey DJ
Guess you got your wish........I am a victim of crime - can't say as though I've received any help. Happy now?
Guess you got your wish........I am a victim of crime - can't say as though I've received any help. Happy now?
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 16, 2008 12:50 PM:
No that is not what I'm saying. I'm saying that he is unfair in that he allows Keller's gang to do their thing but tried to hinder the Concerned citizens when they did theirs. Yeah let's all praise CPD.....lets see....it would take a while but lets try to see just how many cases the CPD has screwed up.....1)Leah Freeman case 2) Debbie Lillie case 3)Carl Foster case 3) I believe they were in on the Jeremy Bright case 4)And hey, how about the guy out at the Four Seasons - I believe he had a pen of some sort and was killed? or was he just shot? Well, c'mon Coquille - Help me out! Surely there are more! Need I say more? Are ya getting it? What will ever become of Coquille?
Dj wrote on Mar 16, 2008 12:44 PM:
THE GUY HAD A NECK THAT RESEMBLED SWISS CHEESE! DID ALL OF YOU JUST FORGET THAT PART OF THE STORY? It is standard that if you resist arrest you are taken to the ground. That is not unnecessary or excessive force. All of the haters are just a bunch of fools. I hope you are all(police haters) victims of crime and then recieve no help.
what the heck wrote on Mar 16, 2008 12:20 PM:
I read what she wrote and understood that she was very excited to get in to talk to Mr. Frazier. Are you saying she wasn't?
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 16, 2008 11:49 AM:
He wanted the Concerned Citizens gone. Period. He did NOT want them outside his courthouse. I don't care if he had her in there for 45 hours............ and just so you know - I DID talk to the D.A.'s office regarding this matter.
what the heck wrote on Mar 16, 2008 11:34 AM:
Then explain why Dian Courtright wrote this in her blog:
I had a great one one on one interview with D.A. Paul Frasier & got 45 minutes of his time to get some of our points across & have some questions answered.(which I will talk about in an upcoming post)
I had a great one one on one interview with D.A. Paul Frasier & got 45 minutes of his time to get some of our points across & have some questions answered.(which I will talk about in an upcoming post)
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 16, 2008 11:18 AM:
Hey Lester - when you get your own newspaper perhaps you could do as you wish as well. And the way I understood it, R.Paul Frazier called the Concerned Citizens (or Dian) in to his office to hinder their support of the citizens who are truely concerned about what's going on here. Why didn't he do the same to Keller and her little gang?
Brenda wrote on Mar 16, 2008 11:14 AM:
For the 40 People who showed up to support the Coquille Police, I hardly see that as a victory. I believe there are a few thousand people in Coquille, that would be more of a victory. It makes me sick to think that the police get away with this kind of brutality, the only thing our court system did, is allow them to become even more cocky, as now they know they can get away with anything. For all of those who praise them for just giving out warnings, have you not read the local paper lately? They now have a whole page just for police logs. I wonder what they will get away with next? Way to go Cory!!!
finially wrote on Mar 16, 2008 10:58 AM:
Way to go cory!! There are a lot of us behind you and your thoughts on this.
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 16, 2008 10:34 AM:
Of course you would say that DH being a former CPD officer. Could you please tell the readers why you left CPD? Now be honest if you can.
DH wrote on Mar 15, 2008 11:24 PM:
THOSE SERVING OUR COMMUNITY DESERVED THIS IT WAS LONG OVERDUE. I APPLAUD YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
Bob wrote on Mar 15, 2008 6:12 PM:
It's about time the community came out to support their police. If a person acting like he was high on drugs had come out and broke my windsheild with a hammer the way that guy in Coquille did, he'd of been lucky to get away with just a broken neck. That man was lucky that the police took him in and not a citizen with a concealed weapons permit.
Lester wrote on Mar 15, 2008 5:46 PM:
THis was an awesome turnout! When I was there I counted more than 40 people...it's just funny to me how THe World stuck this on page three...including black and white photo...and the concerned Citezen's of Coquille with their ...maybe ten people...made front page with a color shot. Something about that reeks. What's up Ms. Erickson?
Cory Courtright wrote on Mar 15, 2008 4:52 PM:
To Daniel -
What about those of us who don't have difficulties following the laws? Yet we still have a problem.......I don't think I need to explain who I am - most know the Leah Freeman case. Nice to hear you had a pleasant experience with CPD. Would you feel the same if it were your daughter? Hmmmm....
What about those of us who don't have difficulties following the laws? Yet we still have a problem.......I don't think I need to explain who I am - most know the Leah Freeman case. Nice to hear you had a pleasant experience with CPD. Would you feel the same if it were your daughter? Hmmmm....
tired of her act wrote on Mar 15, 2008 4:43 PM:
I don't see a rally of support for Niki Whittey and her band of three.
NB Parent wrote on Mar 15, 2008 3:00 PM:
Dr. Keller, What a wonderful event to organize. Too bad I did not know about it before. I definitely would have been there to show my support.
Thomas wrote on Mar 15, 2008 2:59 PM:
"Though the officers were cleared ..."
Umm, the correct reportage would be that the Grand Jury voted not to indict, and thus the Coos county DA is not likely to press any charges.
These officers are in no way "cleared" of anything, and probably there will be a civil suit filed by Foster's family. Only then will anything approaching the truth of this incident be made known to the public, and possibly they then indeed will be "cleared".
Going only on what has been printed in The World, it would be hard to justify a blanket "support" for what the police did that day. The trial will undoubtably be held before a jury in another county, so we will get to see what other people without a dog in this fight think about this unfortunate outcome of Coquille's "normal police proceedures".
Umm, the correct reportage would be that the Grand Jury voted not to indict, and thus the Coos county DA is not likely to press any charges.
These officers are in no way "cleared" of anything, and probably there will be a civil suit filed by Foster's family. Only then will anything approaching the truth of this incident be made known to the public, and possibly they then indeed will be "cleared".
Going only on what has been printed in The World, it would be hard to justify a blanket "support" for what the police did that day. The trial will undoubtably be held before a jury in another county, so we will get to see what other people without a dog in this fight think about this unfortunate outcome of Coquille's "normal police proceedures".
parkis wrote on Mar 15, 2008 2:30 PM:
boo on the police and their excessive force that would cause so much to a human being regardless what they were being arrested for. prays are for the familys that police destroy..policemen nedd to realize that they are not god and have no power over anyone...
JJrunner wrote on Mar 15, 2008 2:28 PM:
I'm glad there was a good turnout for this. Proof that a large majority respect and support the police.
Daniel wrote on Mar 15, 2008 1:26 PM:
Dr. Keller, thank you for organizing this event. The Coquille police are doing a great job. Within the last year one of them even reminded me to slow down going through town. He was absolutely correct in doing so. I acknowledged this at the time, was given a warning, and now I am more conscious of how fast I drive.
For people who have difficulty following the laws and then accepting the consequences, either keep quiet or move somewhere else - I recommend about 50 miles due west. There is unlikely to be any law to hinder your activities out there.
Keep up the great work Coquille Officers. I, and many others, appreciate the service you provide to the community.
For people who have difficulty following the laws and then accepting the consequences, either keep quiet or move somewhere else - I recommend about 50 miles due west. There is unlikely to be any law to hinder your activities out there.
Keep up the great work Coquille Officers. I, and many others, appreciate the service you provide to the community.
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