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Myst wrote on May 7, 2008 12:59 PM:
Home Depot has closed stores and cut back due, in part to the mortgage crisis. It's not a suprise that they backed out of this deal at the same time. Perhaps in a few years, when the housing market is re-energized, home depot will pull the file for North Bend and be interested. It wasn't wasted expense to develop the site, at the least, it improved the look as you drive through the area. At best, another enterprise will come in quicker since it is already prepped.
My only qualm is that the bay front is a natural resource that most communities don't have. The casino is the only hotel that has a view of the bay in our area. The Edgewater claims to, but really it's on a slough with the view of the back of a pesticide store. Anyway, Why place massive buildings that don't make use of the view in prime view land?
My only qualm is that the bay front is a natural resource that most communities don't have. The casino is the only hotel that has a view of the bay in our area. The Edgewater claims to, but really it's on a slough with the view of the back of a pesticide store. Anyway, Why place massive buildings that don't make use of the view in prime view land?
JT wrote on Apr 7, 2008 7:22 PM:
PRETTY SOON IT WON'T BE CHEAPER TO BUY OUT OF TOWN WHEN GAS IS OVER $5/GALLON!!!
Krissy wrote on Apr 4, 2008 9:39 AM:
It is ridiculous that our economy is sooooo poor. There is money in Coos Bay, North Bend. It is impossible for money to be spent in this town because people who have money are too smart to spend their money here. Why would they when they can save so much money by purchasing out of town. Why the huge fear of GROWTH? Why repress our economy. Home Depot coming in will not stimulate a recession, it will force GROWTH in our community. Jobs will be created, prices will decrease, people will spend! It's not fair to expect Coos Bay to stay stuck in "old times" forever when we have so much offer. It's Home Depot people not cancer!
Competition is a stimulous! And it's a HUGE mistake for CEDCO to have a hand in this anyway. Let Home Depot or Lowe's find private land, that can only benefit this community. With CEDCO's hand in it, it benefits the tribe more than Coos Bay/North Bend. That is the real issue here.
Competition is a stimulous! And it's a HUGE mistake for CEDCO to have a hand in this anyway. Let Home Depot or Lowe's find private land, that can only benefit this community. With CEDCO's hand in it, it benefits the tribe more than Coos Bay/North Bend. That is the real issue here.
Ann wrote on Apr 1, 2008 10:33 AM:
Wake up! Corporate America is here already. Lumbermans, Coos Head, Fred Meyer....all corporations. Buy their goods and keep the money in our community. These companies provide diversity in employment and benefits and competition. With only one big box our town would loose the diversity and choice we enjoy now. Homogeneous big box brands only make our area look and work like every other boring suburb across this country.
Transplant wrote on Mar 29, 2008 9:41 PM:
I love it here and wish the best of luck to the tribe. They will have the nicest building in the county and we are all just jealous. Someday corporate America will find us. The company that does is going to be very fortunate. This area is ripe with opportunity. Just wish I had the 100 million or so to take advantage of it.
Transplant wrote on Mar 29, 2008 9:37 PM:
My young family and I moved here in 1996. It's a dream living here, so much beauty, incredible environment for the family. We can truly appreciate the benefits to living in such an area. It isn't without its faults for certain. The HD pull out is disappointing to me not because of the "great jobs" or economic benefit, but it's one of pride. People would have something really nice and new to showcase the area. Something that said "corporate America finally recognized us". The Casino is doing a great job and will have the nicest building in town. If I were in their shoes I'd do the exact same thing. Take advantage of what is available. This area is an incredible opportunity for the business that takes it.
Miller wrote on Mar 27, 2008 12:24 PM:
CEDCO will continue to look for an anchor so this development can take root. I believe that Lowe's will be that anchor. Home Depot will probably and eventually build eleswhere in the area. When one comes so does the other. You rarely see a town that has only one of these stores. We need to support new business and don't forget to use our new airline connection to San Francisco. We need these services and the only way we can have them is if people use them instead of flying out of Eugene or Portland.
Citizen wrote on Mar 26, 2008 9:23 PM:
It looks like more people need to get involved in the destiny of Coos Bay, North Bend, and so forth. I see a few people ruining things for the rest of us. It's not CEDCO it's local small business. Do you honestly believe local employers are excited about business coming that pays more than they do? If I made $10.00 per hour and a company came in that offered $15.00 an hour would I consider applying for a job? YES. Do we have an endless supply of good workers in this area? NO.
That's just one idea. Can you think of other reasons why people wouldn't want better paying jobs around here?
JT wrote on Mar 25, 2008 7:19 PM:
And if Home Depot, or another business that could provide A LOT of jobs is not coming in, I love the idea of doing something for the kids. There's not enough for them to do around here, except bowling. I love bowling, and I know a lot of the kids around here do, as it is packed every weekend. But come on, we need more for them. If there were more positive activities to do around our community, we wouldn't have such a huge drug and alcohol problem a few years from now. Kids wouldn't be out partying in the woods, endangering their lives, doing drugs, etc. Give the kids a place to go after school while their parents are at work (or at The Mill throwing their welfare or SSI checks away!!!) Some place where they can do homework, hang out with friends, play games, something positive. I know we have SWOYA, but that is for the younger kids. We need something for the teens. Like a drug and alcohol free pool hall or something. I dunno.
JT wrote on Mar 25, 2008 7:18 PM:
Actually, CB, they do hire "their own" I am also a Coquille Indian). Coquille tribal members are first priority there. Someone from an outside tribe is next, and then the rest of the community. Unless that member is not qualified for the job they are applying for, they will get it over anyone else.
The comment about dumpy places and such, Concerned Citizen wrote that. I agree with some of it, just not the part where it is the casino's fault.
I do, however, agree that people should be fined if they own that dumpy property. Make this community a little bit of a nicer place!
The comment about dumpy places and such, Concerned Citizen wrote that. I agree with some of it, just not the part where it is the casino's fault.
I do, however, agree that people should be fined if they own that dumpy property. Make this community a little bit of a nicer place!
CB wrote on Mar 24, 2008 1:23 PM:
Hey Jeanne, if you are Indian and you have to work two jobs and Oregons welfare plans don't cover your health issues, why don't you get a job at the Mill Casino and get one of their "good paying" jobs ????? If they do so much help, they should hire one of their own and pay you a decent wage. It seems to me if they really want to help their own people, giving them jobs would be the first priority, and along with the jobs would come the health plans.
Jeanne (Coquille Indian) wrote on Mar 24, 2008 11:22 AM:
I'm sorry that so many of you feel that the casino isn't doing anything for our community.. I work 2 jobs to support my kids and still do not get any health insurance, thru my jobs or OHP, thanks to the Coquille Indian Tribe, our Medical, Dental and Optical are ALWAYS covered. The money from that casino has done so much for so many people. Indian or not... Just because they don't go door to door and hand out cash doesn't mean they aren't doing anything for our community...
CB wrote on Mar 24, 2008 9:35 AM:
JT your right it isn't "really" the Mills fault people play the machines, but it is like everything else in this area, drugs, drink, smokes, once you put the first few nickels or quarters in the machine, you are hooked, especially when you hit the first few hundred dollar jackpot ( which coincendentally) always happens to "newcomers" to the casino, then after that first jackpot, you think it is always going to happen, and it doesn't and the casino just keeps getting your money. Gambling is a real addiction and the worst one to beat, and has the most suicides of any addiction.
So again, I don't think there would be enough money left over to spend at Home Depot.
And the person who said there should be some kind of fines for people who don't keep up there homes and yards is right on. I am sick of all the dumps and garbage around here.
So again, I don't think there would be enough money left over to spend at Home Depot.
And the person who said there should be some kind of fines for people who don't keep up there homes and yards is right on. I am sick of all the dumps and garbage around here.
RICK wrote on Mar 23, 2008 11:42 AM:
JT,
YOU ARE RIGHT ON THE POINT YES THERE IS A LOT OF DUMPY PROPERTIES AROUND HERE.I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION AROUND HERE,THAT WAY THE DUMPY DIRTY HOME OWNERS WOULD KEEP THERE HOMES CLEAN OR GET FINED.A LOT OF THESE HOME OWNERS LOOK LIKE WHITE TRASH TOO.THIS IS WHY THE HOME DEPOT PULLED IN A WAY.THEY DON'T WANT TO CATER TO WHITE TRASH AND PEOPLE LIKE BOB.
THIS AREA IS STARTING TO LOOK LIKE A THIRD WORLD NATION TOO!
YOU ARE RIGHT ON THE POINT YES THERE IS A LOT OF DUMPY PROPERTIES AROUND HERE.I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION AROUND HERE,THAT WAY THE DUMPY DIRTY HOME OWNERS WOULD KEEP THERE HOMES CLEAN OR GET FINED.A LOT OF THESE HOME OWNERS LOOK LIKE WHITE TRASH TOO.THIS IS WHY THE HOME DEPOT PULLED IN A WAY.THEY DON'T WANT TO CATER TO WHITE TRASH AND PEOPLE LIKE BOB.
THIS AREA IS STARTING TO LOOK LIKE A THIRD WORLD NATION TOO!
Coasty $ CB wrote on Mar 23, 2008 10:10 AM:
You are both either incredibly old or incredibly out of touch. No one under 30 has probably ever even been to a roller rink and very few have ever gone bowling on their own accord, just dragged by there by family. A water park is the craziest idea I have ever heard of, I don't know if you may or may not have noticed but one: it kind of rains here alot, and two: it 's generally not very warm. Some of you folks are a little off kilter if you catch my drift...this isn't 1955
JT wrote on Mar 22, 2008 6:37 PM:
Concerned Citizen-
"Stealing everything back by way of casinos I guess is the easy way. I guess Home Depot wouldn't be able to make a go of it here, since everyones welfare and social security checks go to the Mill casinos machines, and no money left to fix up their homes, just look around here at all the shacks and dumps people live in and take no pride in fixing them up."
It is not The Mill's fault that people put all they've got into those machines. The person is responsible for themselves. I agree with you that they should not be spending all of their welfare and SS money in slot machines, but that is their problem. Not the Casino's.
"Stealing everything back by way of casinos I guess is the easy way. I guess Home Depot wouldn't be able to make a go of it here, since everyones welfare and social security checks go to the Mill casinos machines, and no money left to fix up their homes, just look around here at all the shacks and dumps people live in and take no pride in fixing them up."
It is not The Mill's fault that people put all they've got into those machines. The person is responsible for themselves. I agree with you that they should not be spending all of their welfare and SS money in slot machines, but that is their problem. Not the Casino's.
Never Looked Back wrote on Mar 22, 2008 4:49 PM:
Hi everybody: I moved away from here 22 years ago and have been keeping an eye on things thru the World link dot com. I'm not too sure you all are missing too much without a Home Depot. Unless you have two big box lumber/home improvement stores, you're not getting any real deal and the little guy lumber yards die-off real quick like. The ONLY good thing about a Big Box Lumber Yard, over here in the Rogue Valley, is the fact the lumber is dryer at these places in the winter. The lumber is indoors. Local lumber yards, Mom-N-Pop style, over here, ALL keep their lumber outdoors. Sucks in the winter. Service? Little guy stores. Prices? Watch-em both. I must admit that being on tribal land would have me wide-eyed at being stretched over a barrel and taken advantage of. Kinda like living in a mobile home in a trailer park. Yechhhh.
Coasty wrote on Mar 21, 2008 4:56 PM:
Hey Miller:
CB says it all....plus if the Mill has taken the time and MONEY to build another hotel, upgrade the casino and put in a pretty nice RV park, seems to me they predict a lot of visitors to the area. What a nice addition for family fun if they built a skating rink, bowling alley, indoor miniture golf course, water park, etc to keep local families here in the summer and add more attractions to bring outside vacationers to our area that will spend money. To say we don't need another play ground is ridiculous. These ideas aren't play grounds. They are good ways for families to spend time together and have some fun. Oh and by the way....I old enough to be a Grandma and I still golf, run, swim, bowl,own skates, and play baseball with my teenagers,so don't stereo type Grandmas as too old to get out and enjoy activities...its your kind kind of "old" and negative thinking that contributes to the probem, this is 2008, not 1908! Get a clue!
CB says it all....plus if the Mill has taken the time and MONEY to build another hotel, upgrade the casino and put in a pretty nice RV park, seems to me they predict a lot of visitors to the area. What a nice addition for family fun if they built a skating rink, bowling alley, indoor miniture golf course, water park, etc to keep local families here in the summer and add more attractions to bring outside vacationers to our area that will spend money. To say we don't need another play ground is ridiculous. These ideas aren't play grounds. They are good ways for families to spend time together and have some fun. Oh and by the way....I old enough to be a Grandma and I still golf, run, swim, bowl,own skates, and play baseball with my teenagers,so don't stereo type Grandmas as too old to get out and enjoy activities...its your kind kind of "old" and negative thinking that contributes to the probem, this is 2008, not 1908! Get a clue!
CB wrote on Mar 21, 2008 3:53 PM:
Hey "MILLER" evidentally you haven't seen some of the modern grandmas, they might just like a water park, ha ha... And yes we have ONE BOWLING ALLEY and do you see how packed it gets and it is not that big, we could use another one. And maybe skating is going out in places like California where they can inline skate up and down the boardwalks all year in the sunshine, we don't have either one here, and if there is nothing else to do, I think skating would be good, and since the MILL already owns the land and its tax free, they don't have to make money selling it (land) for profit to build other things like you mentioned. Plus they won't be putting in any "industry" there where people could actually work and make money. And maybe they could be gererous with their tax free land and put in all these fun things, and NOT CHARGE SO MUCH FOR PEOPLE AND KIDS TO USE THEM. Don't be such a stick in the mud about things for the young people, just because things are "out of style" in other areas doesn't mean the young people here, wouldn't like to do them. And the MILL is making so much money off the people in this area they can afford to do something for the area or don't you agree ?? Maybe you are one of the CEDCO Members and don't want to contribute anything nice to our area..
NB Resident wrote on Mar 21, 2008 11:56 AM:
OK Miller, I hear you and go ahead and keep laughing, but your comment "our areas has more retirees than children" might just part of the problem. Our youth is leaving town...so I hope retirees can spare most of their SS checks to keep businesses that are here going, because people with kids and our future are leaving in packs around here. Retirees are not going to be able to keep the area going and their the ones that generally don't want to see change. Unless we all band together and figure this thing out, we are all going to loose one way or another.
Miller wrote on Mar 21, 2008 10:31 AM:
I have to laugh when people propose that CEDCO build a skating rink or water park. Skating rinks are a thing of the past. They are closing down all over the country. We had one here that didn't make it. People actaully have to go there and skate to make it profitable. An article I read also reveals some reasons why skating is out. (Several reasons for the decline in the number of roller skating rinks, including: Selling land is more profitable then running a rink. The advent of inline skates encouraged people to skate outdoors. Insurance and lawsuits are expensive. Roller skating is no longer in style. A water park is another waste of time. They are too expensive for most families. Also, our area has more retirees than children. I doubt that grandma is going to be spending her weekends at the water park in order to make it worthwhile. Instead, go use the community pool that just sits there. Arcades struggle to survive also because home video games like Xbox and Playstation make them practically obsolete. We have a bowling alley so I see that as a useless idea too. These all sound like good ideas but they won't work. We need new business and industry, not more playgrounds.
Citizen wrote on Mar 20, 2008 9:43 PM:
Just observing how this community is trying to bring in "Big Business" it's clear that those who are in positions to make things happen haven't spent much time at a black jack table.
Sometimes when you get handed a jack of clubs and a 6 of diamonds you might want to ask for a hit. In a recession standing still isn't good planning if you want your tax base to remain healthy.
I used to live in this area a back in the 70s and 80s. I've been back for 10 years now and cannot believe there is still this black cloud hanging over the local economy.
There are enough churches in this area to possibly put us in the record books and yet I hear next to nothing about church involvement in the community.
There are plenty of folks with money in the area, yet I don't see much in the way of philanthropy. Maybe it's enough to just have the money.
If we cannot get a bond measure to fund our young people's education then why don't I see a bond measure to fund additional resources to fight substance abuse in Coos County and the local municipalites?
We have SWOCC and are any of these students donating there time to helping out local families and elderly? Could they not be painting homes of the elderly that cannot due to their fixed income or health?
I could go on and on. Finally; Something is lacking in this community and that is unity. We need to come together like a team and either help each other deal with the setbacks this area's incumbent industry and commerce face or fight to preserve them. Optionally we need to fight to bring in business that will make us economically strong.
They say money doesn't buy happiness, but if you ask somebody who doesn't have enough to repair their car or buy their son or daughter school clothes I'd bet you might just find there is an argument that money provides comfort and security that allow us to focus our minds and hearts on more important matters.
Put all the arguments aside for why Home Depot decided not to locate here and what are we left with? Exactly - Dealer Wins and that in now way implies the Casino won.
Sometimes when you get handed a jack of clubs and a 6 of diamonds you might want to ask for a hit. In a recession standing still isn't good planning if you want your tax base to remain healthy.
I used to live in this area a back in the 70s and 80s. I've been back for 10 years now and cannot believe there is still this black cloud hanging over the local economy.
There are enough churches in this area to possibly put us in the record books and yet I hear next to nothing about church involvement in the community.
There are plenty of folks with money in the area, yet I don't see much in the way of philanthropy. Maybe it's enough to just have the money.
If we cannot get a bond measure to fund our young people's education then why don't I see a bond measure to fund additional resources to fight substance abuse in Coos County and the local municipalites?
We have SWOCC and are any of these students donating there time to helping out local families and elderly? Could they not be painting homes of the elderly that cannot due to their fixed income or health?
I could go on and on. Finally; Something is lacking in this community and that is unity. We need to come together like a team and either help each other deal with the setbacks this area's incumbent industry and commerce face or fight to preserve them. Optionally we need to fight to bring in business that will make us economically strong.
They say money doesn't buy happiness, but if you ask somebody who doesn't have enough to repair their car or buy their son or daughter school clothes I'd bet you might just find there is an argument that money provides comfort and security that allow us to focus our minds and hearts on more important matters.
Put all the arguments aside for why Home Depot decided not to locate here and what are we left with? Exactly - Dealer Wins and that in now way implies the Casino won.
Perfect. wrote on Mar 20, 2008 4:02 PM:
Im glad to see Home depot pull out. The money doesnt stay in the community, so what is the pupose? Smaller stores would have been run out of business, local stores that have been here for decades. I agree the community would be better with a new "family place". perhaps a new skating rink?
pic (politically incorrect) wrote on Mar 20, 2008 12:21 PM:
OK, OK, you "NATIVE AMERICANS" At the Mill Casino, read what we are saying, build a young peoples place to play, or a family oriented play place. We need another bowling alley, skating rink, young peoples cafe, or confectionary, etc. etc. park area, just something that the young people can enjoy, around here, they NEED IT....
Coasty wrote on Mar 20, 2008 9:22 AM:
With the gas prices going up with no end in sight that will make it more and more difficult for families to take vacations, so why not take that huge piece of land and make a family fun park so families and young people can enjoy some time off together right here on the coast. A huge water park (indoors so that it can be enjoyed year round), arcades, a skating rink, another bowling alley, all good ideas to continue to give our community something to do, especially our young kids and teenagers. We don't have enough family oriented venues in our town, so why not start here. It will create a few jobs and keep more money local if people stay here in town for fun instead of looking elsewhere to spend their money and time and give other outside visitors another reason to want to come to our area and vacation and spend money....it could be a win/win for everyone.
half and half wrote on Mar 19, 2008 11:38 PM:
It's not a matter of lack of pride that people don't fix up their homes. It's that we get slapped with higher property taxes if we do! Trying to reach for more tax money, the assessor said that the dusty, worn out siding looked like it was recently painted. It was painted twelve years earlier and was in terrible shape,yet, he couldn't tell the difference. Another reason not to paint it at all.
And, about the Indians vs Pale Face..here's a terrific saying: Give the Indian liquor and you can get his land. Give the white man gambling and he can get it back again. Seems like justice to me. They were here first and our ancestors ruined their culture and their way of living, which was a whole lot healthier and green than what we are doing now.
But then, what do I know. I'm about half and half, so I can see both sides and can usually end up fighting with myself. Think of it people..there's a whole lot more Indian blood lines in this community than you know or probably want to know.
And, about the Indians vs Pale Face..here's a terrific saying: Give the Indian liquor and you can get his land. Give the white man gambling and he can get it back again. Seems like justice to me. They were here first and our ancestors ruined their culture and their way of living, which was a whole lot healthier and green than what we are doing now.
But then, what do I know. I'm about half and half, so I can see both sides and can usually end up fighting with myself. Think of it people..there's a whole lot more Indian blood lines in this community than you know or probably want to know.
? ! ? ! ? ! ? ! ? wrote on Mar 19, 2008 10:22 PM:
I am wondering what is racist about saying Indian. That is Indian land, I assumed anyway, since it is tax free, because they are Indians. Everyone is so so scared not to be politically correct, that everything is crazy. I wonder if the Indians don't like to be called Indians or is it the "white Man" that is affraid to say Indian ???? Or maybe its the fact most of the people connected to the casino are so small a percent Indian, that its not fair to say they are Indians.?
Confused wrote on Mar 18, 2008 9:00 PM:
Why all the accusations of racism? Someone cannot refer to CEDCO & co. as "Indians" even though it's included in the very name (Coquille Indian Tribe)?
Call me ignorant, but what's that about? All I've seen is a number of people criticizing the way this particular organization does business, and now those contributors are suddenly racists?
Call me ignorant, but what's that about? All I've seen is a number of people criticizing the way this particular organization does business, and now those contributors are suddenly racists?
D.Worthington wrote on Mar 18, 2008 7:14 PM:
Coosbay Northbend Is a place i call home. For the last 20 years I have not lived there. But the problems you have now and 30 40 years ago are the same.
The bay area is a wonderfull place to call home. But STOP pushing all the people out and let some new ons in.
thank you
The bay area is a wonderfull place to call home. But STOP pushing all the people out and let some new ons in.
thank you
Paul wrote on Mar 18, 2008 6:53 PM:
Get over it! Anything that is done with that area will be better than leaving it the way that it is now. If HD doesn't want it, move on and doing something else with it.
CB wrote on Mar 18, 2008 5:39 PM:
HEY INDIANS AT THE MILL, READ THE COMMENTS ON "HOME DEPOT PULLS THE PLUG" AND READ SOME IDEAS OF WHAT TO DO WITH THE LAND .......GOOD IDEAS...
DO YOU PEOPLE AT THE MILL CASINO READ THESE COMMENTS, YOU SHOULD.
I know some of you employees at the Mill read the comments, because you have wrote some.....
DO YOU PEOPLE AT THE MILL CASINO READ THESE COMMENTS, YOU SHOULD.
I know some of you employees at the Mill read the comments, because you have wrote some.....
NB Resident wrote on Mar 17, 2008 2:49 PM:
Uhm Bob: I realize the news was somewhat informing of what may be coming down the pike, but actions were speaking louder than words. The real estate in our area at the time was still booming, houses were selling at a much higher price (enough that appraisals were taking months to get done due to the back log), new house construction was everywhere and people were finally starting to talk positive about our area....so the crystal ball I was talking about was really about just how "fast" the fall happened and caught lots of people by surprise. If you weren't caught off guard at least a little, then I guess you either rent, have your house paid for (which you would definately be in the minority) or just plain lucky....
onnonomous wrote on Mar 17, 2008 12:25 PM:
So Home Depot wants to pull out, well let them. This area doesn't have enough cash flow for a greedy big box store.
It would leave room for a water park, or something that would better serve "family" activities. It would leave a space for Costco to come and whup up on Wal-Mart, or maybe Winco would be interested. Home Depot isn't the only egg in the basket.
It would leave room for a water park, or something that would better serve "family" activities. It would leave a space for Costco to come and whup up on Wal-Mart, or maybe Winco would be interested. Home Depot isn't the only egg in the basket.
Miller wrote on Mar 17, 2008 9:54 AM:
This deal may not be completely dead. Home Depot says it still wants to discuss the property issues and that it was still willing to construct a store there. They were up against the lease agreement deadline stemming from the long going permitting process surrounding the property. I believe they can still work out the kinks but if not then Lowe's seems to be the next most likely anchor. The good news is that the entire project is not dead. CEDCO will continue to develop the property and I'm sure we will all be very pleased with the outcome.
Local resident wrote on Mar 16, 2008 8:11 PM:
Get a grip people were in a recesion Home Depot has to think of there revenue and potential customers. CB/NB is a depressed low income drug infested town. Why would any large company want to move here? Ask yourself who is going to purchase the items the retailor sells. This is a small town not large like Eugene or Roseburg. CEDCO will find another outlet to place on the property they have done so much for the community they provide jobs with benefits how many employers in this area offer insurance? Very few. Back OFF and leave cedco alone and be thankfull for there kindness in helping our community grow
BornintheBay wrote on Mar 16, 2008 4:51 PM:
I must say that the covered water park, or something like it, would be a fantastic idea. The Mill Casino could then be more of a FAMILY resort. While the parents are enjoying the gambling life and more "adult" entertainment, the children could be enjoying themselves at the nearby water park(or whatever is put there) Then the Mill would appeal to an even wider consumer group all the while still appealing to their current consumers. Great idea, IMHO.
??????????? wrote on Mar 16, 2008 3:49 PM:
Huh does anyone really ever wonder what exactly it is that makes big business run from our area? Our lack of letting anything good come into our area makes me wonder why people want to stay here. What do you all think our kids are going to to once they are old enough to leave, ya just that LEAVE. This place is going so far under its not funny. Try to blame big business for making the small businesses go under is completely obserd, Its the people in this town that are doing it. ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE!!
Also proud employee of The Mill Casino wrote on Mar 16, 2008 9:22 AM:
I am very saddened by the comments that have been written What the heck is wrong with you people. CEDCO and The Mill Casino do not deserve all of your negativity do you realize how many employees we have and have great benefits, 401K and not to mention it a heck of a place to work I love my job and bringing in new faces the this area is one of the best parts of working here. I really hope that they will bring in something for the youth to do someday as well. I think this area is a great place to raise a family and The Mill Casino has helped me accomplish this goal.
Old Man Riggs wrote on Mar 15, 2008 7:28 PM:
heh heh, sorry I told you all so. I never came out against CEDCO or the build up of the waterfront, I came out against organizations like these building up peoples hopes, only to toss them out when their "feasibility study" is done. Personally speaking, I would never do business with a "indian tribe"; sorry if that hurts your feelings and please don't play the race card.
When will the Bay Area stop with these pipe dreams? How many years ago was it Chevron/Standard Oil wanted to build a refinery in Jordon Cove and that fizzled? How many of you readers remember that?
Remember the T-Dock and all the promises of bringing money in? Someone show me the money!
Remember those rumors back in the early 90's about Costco coming to North Bend, across the street from PV?
How much money has the development of the North Spit brought other than the state selling off-road permits to the quad monkey's and off-roaders?
Boat launch ramp making anyone money?
Natural gas/LNG pipeline pumping any money into the local economy?
How many truckers or longshoremen making money off the container offload facility?
When was the last time a fully loaded train made it's way up to Eugene over fully functional rail lines?
m00npenny: Timber industry? In your dreams. It's dead and those that hold the power killed it.
Rick: shipwreck? Heh, the Bay Area was beached years ago; where have you been?
To those that are bitter or fooled into another false sense of security or hope for the future, I can only offer this:
Stop holding your breath and/or move back where you came from.
If you're not willing to accept that fact of Coos Bay life, then live with what there is, make the most of whats here and accept the fact that the Bay Area was destined to become nothing more than a low income retirement community.
Note to Doris: 10-4
When will the Bay Area stop with these pipe dreams? How many years ago was it Chevron/Standard Oil wanted to build a refinery in Jordon Cove and that fizzled? How many of you readers remember that?
Remember the T-Dock and all the promises of bringing money in? Someone show me the money!
Remember those rumors back in the early 90's about Costco coming to North Bend, across the street from PV?
How much money has the development of the North Spit brought other than the state selling off-road permits to the quad monkey's and off-roaders?
Boat launch ramp making anyone money?
Natural gas/LNG pipeline pumping any money into the local economy?
How many truckers or longshoremen making money off the container offload facility?
When was the last time a fully loaded train made it's way up to Eugene over fully functional rail lines?
m00npenny: Timber industry? In your dreams. It's dead and those that hold the power killed it.
Rick: shipwreck? Heh, the Bay Area was beached years ago; where have you been?
To those that are bitter or fooled into another false sense of security or hope for the future, I can only offer this:
Stop holding your breath and/or move back where you came from.
If you're not willing to accept that fact of Coos Bay life, then live with what there is, make the most of whats here and accept the fact that the Bay Area was destined to become nothing more than a low income retirement community.
Note to Doris: 10-4
Bob wrote on Mar 15, 2008 7:03 PM:
Uhm NB resident. There kind of was a crystal ball. It was called the news. Economic analysts have been predicting that this would happen on Cable news networks for years now. They are still predicting that it will get worse. and guess what... They are right!! And property values, guess what... they are going to fall some more. IF the average wage in a town is $15/ hour or worse, and the average property sells for 250k or better guess what!! The wage hare can not support property values, so hold on to your ankles and pray to god that your mortgage papers don't read 5 year A R M. because the last 5 years were a gamble and guess what, America lost. AND WE ALL KNEW IT WAS COMING
Bob wrote on Mar 15, 2008 6:51 PM:
I was shocked that Home Depot went as far into the agreement as it had considering it announced a 28% decline in profits weeks before it signed the "deal".
I am not sad however that the deal fell through. Putting a Home Depot on that property is a WASTE!!! I am not sure who all CEDCO has pursued for that property. But if they aren't pursuing shipping or tourism based activity they are they are wasting what should be the most valuable property for 100 miles. In the hands of people with any vision what so ever that property has the potential to be the economic engine that could save this community.
It's a shame that property was purchased by CEDCO in the first place. The most Logical thing to do with it would be to put a descent hotel on it and I am sure CEDCO has no interest in selling to a competitor. And I am sure that a Competitor would not be interested in leasing from CEDCO. In fact I doubt that any thing short of disappointment will happen on that property as long as CEDCO owns it.
I am not sad however that the deal fell through. Putting a Home Depot on that property is a WASTE!!! I am not sure who all CEDCO has pursued for that property. But if they aren't pursuing shipping or tourism based activity they are they are wasting what should be the most valuable property for 100 miles. In the hands of people with any vision what so ever that property has the potential to be the economic engine that could save this community.
It's a shame that property was purchased by CEDCO in the first place. The most Logical thing to do with it would be to put a descent hotel on it and I am sure CEDCO has no interest in selling to a competitor. And I am sure that a Competitor would not be interested in leasing from CEDCO. In fact I doubt that any thing short of disappointment will happen on that property as long as CEDCO owns it.
Tribal Spouse wrote on Mar 15, 2008 9:47 AM:
As a Ko Kwel tribal members spouse I am very disapointed about the decision of Home Depo to pull out of the aggreement that that had already made with the tribe to bring in the new property and growth to our community, and if the issue with the lease argeement was so easily fix(per CEDCO CEO Brady Scott's words)then why didn't the issue get resolved?
m00npenny wrote on Mar 15, 2008 2:26 AM:
This is not CEDCO's fault. They worked very hard to get this into motion. The money and hours into this project has not been in vain. Okay, so we dont get Home Depot, are they the only large retailer in the world? Please ppl, this is not the end of the world. The land is now prepared and alot of work went in to bringing "a" new business.
Lets get done with the pity party and start making suggestions as to who could possibly be a new large retailer that would take that spot!
Besides, the strip mall is still going to be put in. I personally would love to see outlet stores, simialar to Lincoln City!
Lets get done with the pity party and start making suggestions as to who could possibly be a new large retailer that would take that spot!
Besides, the strip mall is still going to be put in. I personally would love to see outlet stores, simialar to Lincoln City!
embarassing wrote on Mar 14, 2008 7:52 PM:
I'm with COOS BAY LIFER! Bring in the covered waterpark! That would not only bring people in, provide jobs, but won't put other businesses out! Give some of our youth something to do! Lower our youth crime! See, a POSITIVE in this! In stead of pointing fingers (when there really isn't anyone to blame) turn it around! There are OTHER possibilities! Thank you COOS BAY LIFER! What a great idea!
Rick wrote on Mar 14, 2008 6:05 PM:
So much hatred. So much bigotry..
So much ignorance. The bay area may end up like the shipwreck that was recently uncovered.
So much ignorance. The bay area may end up like the shipwreck that was recently uncovered.
Too sad wrote on Mar 14, 2008 5:46 PM:
Great comment Elaine...telling people to move to Roseburg is exactly the kind of mentality and small minded thinking that is ruining this town. If everyone left, then what?
NB Residient wrote on Mar 14, 2008 5:41 PM:
Geez Kay: Who are you to judge peoples decisions and choices....did it ever occur to you that some people built or bought big houses when the market was good and employed realtors, and contractos, while doing so, which spurred and helped the economy. There was no crystal ball to predict that within a few years of our area "booming" that things would turn around this fast...maybe being a little more empathetic and alot less judgemental would be nice
Unbelievable wrote on Mar 14, 2008 5:34 PM:
I cannot believe the coments that I am reading about wanting the Mill Casino to close up too....what is the matter with you people. On one hand you whine that there are no jobs in the area, the economy is bad, people are leaving the area left and right, homes are sitting empty and for sale...HELLO, that's because they have lost their jobs or can't fine a job....but yet you boast about wanting another business to leave town! Sure, why not, then we'd have how many more people leaving the area.....UN-Believable!!! I have several friends who work for the Mill Casino and they are good paying/good benefit jobs. If you don't like the fact that a Casino is in town because of the gambling, because its the "Indians", etc, then just don't go there but don't wish for others to suffer and be unemployed!!!
Linda wrote on Mar 14, 2008 12:37 PM:
to Citizen, but we can't get rid of meth labs, it's big business for law inforcement. Meth is their job security, that's a police officer told me.
zac from coquille wrote on Mar 14, 2008 10:13 AM:
Why is the "older generation" so aginst growth in this area.. it is a beautiful place to grow up and have a family. I have lived here for 22 almost 23 years and this is the worst i have seen it... now that the retired people are retired they dont want any new buisnes here. yet everyone is complaing about the unemployment rate... i dont think is has to do with the indians or blcks or any kind of tribe or religo... its the old farts that dont want us to up grade because then there would be more tourist coming here and they would not be able to drive 25 in a 50 mile zone. i dont blame home depo for pulling out... seeing the kind of people around here, i would not want to invest my money here either.. why cant we make some thing for teens and youong adult to do around here, how many teen with imports do you see everyday.. would it not be nice to have a place for them to spend there money on gas and tires and engine part rather then spending it on weed,or meth. but no cops have to arrest the ones trying to stay away from that by doing somthing more useful and can possible became a carrer.i hope some day this town will pull its haead of its butt and do somthing rather then try to make people run form it
Doris wrote on Mar 14, 2008 9:47 AM:
Que Sera, Sera,
Whatever will be, will be
The future's not ours, to see
Que Sera, Sera
What will be, will be.
Whatever will be, will be
The future's not ours, to see
Que Sera, Sera
What will be, will be.
Coos Bay lifer wrote on Mar 14, 2008 9:36 AM:
I am amazed at how many people LOVE to blame some one. Home Depot didn't work. Oh well. So many complaints I read about this area, if you don't like it, MOVE OUT! So many times businesses have tried to come here, and the "wonderful citizens" of this area, that came from somewhere else, stopped them dead in their tracks. I don't care if you are indian, black, white, green or yellow! If you want the community to thrive, let businesses come in, enlarge the stupid airport, SOMETHING! Quit stopping everything and then whine about it. We have several local stores in this area that would have been hurt by Home Depot. Let the casino put a covered water park or something in that would ATTRACT not only people from out of the area, but LOCALS! Geez, people, quit pointing fingers and blaming when ya don't know what your talking about, and figure something else out! Give up some ideas of what could help the area! Get off your duff and off your computer and make some suggestions. Or quit whining.
embarrassing wrote on Mar 14, 2008 9:06 AM:
Being a member of this community I am embarrassed about the comments regarding our local natives and all the complaints and finger pointing as to why Home Depot isn't coming here. I too was REALLY looking forward to having them here locally, but there isn't anyone to blame. Get over it and move on. We've lived without them before we can continue, Eugene isn't that far away. But quit pointing fingers and name calling. Grow up! It's crap like this that makes people NOT want to be here.
nail on the head wrote on Mar 14, 2008 9:04 AM:
Citizen: You've hit the nail on the head!! I couldn't have said it better myself.
20 year resident NB wrote on Mar 14, 2008 8:57 AM:
Hopefully CEDCO can atract another interested retail chain to help boost our local economy.
peeler wrote on Mar 14, 2008 8:49 AM:
CITEZEN- I’m afraid your statement may prove prophetically correct. Bob Dylan said it best "Your old road is Rapidly agin'. Please get out of the new one If you can't lend your hand For the times they are a-changin."
m00npenny wrote on Mar 14, 2008 2:06 AM:
Bring our timber industry back. If the timber restrictions were lifted, Coos County would be in the black in no time, the schools would be rebuilt and a surplus would build and create our economy all over again. Besides, the govt. doesnt pay us anymore to not farm it. We need our timber back.
Cherokee/5th Generation Coos County Native wrote on Mar 13, 2008 11:08 PM:
After reading these comments, I'm thoroughly disgusted with those of you who are attacking the NATIVE AMERICANS, who were here generations before YOU.
You people need to read your history books. Educate yourselves. Put an end to the reputation this County has for backwards, backwoods thinking. It's ridiculous. And its shameful! It sounds like a lot of you who are slamming the "Indians" have been losing at the nickel machines. If you don't want to lose money at the Casino, stay out of there. If you don't like it here, you hate the economy and are afraid of bigger businesses coming ...LEAVE!!!!
You people need to read your history books. Educate yourselves. Put an end to the reputation this County has for backwards, backwoods thinking. It's ridiculous. And its shameful! It sounds like a lot of you who are slamming the "Indians" have been losing at the nickel machines. If you don't want to lose money at the Casino, stay out of there. If you don't like it here, you hate the economy and are afraid of bigger businesses coming ...LEAVE!!!!
brenda wrote on Mar 13, 2008 10:36 PM:
lets get real-the casino property was an eyesore-we gave them property that needed someone with enough money and a business to put in-that could tear down an old mill and turn the ground into a pretty site and they did and still are.
Proud to Work at The Mill wrote on Mar 13, 2008 10:10 PM:
As a proud employee of The Mill Casino and a long term resident of the area (1977), it is very disappointing for me to read all of these negative comments directed at CEDCOL and The Mill Casino. Over the last several years, there have been zero companies in this area that have expanded it's business, added jobs, and tried to improve the area as a whole compared to CEDCO and The Mill.
Over the last several years we have seen NUCOR, Home Depot, Weyerhaeuser, Glenbrook Nickel, Central Oregon Pacific Railroad all abandon the South Coast. American Bridge wanted to come to Coos Bay/North Bend but guess what, the community leaders could not work together to bring a successful resolution to this company. They located in Reedsport and since then have been unable to meet their plans due to infrastructure problems and a shallow waterway. (Coos Bay is the only deep water port between San Francisco and Seattle).
CEDCO has been progressive, has looked for opportunities to improve the entire South Coast Community, expanded what it has to offer to entice Conventions, organizations, and other Companies to relocate to this area.
It is very disheartening to see the continued ideals and demands of the Not in my backyard, head in the sand, no progress people who relish in the failures of anyone or any company that wants to bring something new to this community. Realize that every year, we export the greatest natural resource of this county, our High School Graduates.
As for those who say that "Those Indians" do nothing for this community, please read this article published in this Great! Periodical. One of many in the archives of this newspaper. www.theworldlink.com/articles/2008/03/01/news/doc47c8e4c34037e577161608.txt
Representatives of 35 South Coast nonprofit organizations and public agencies Thursday received more than $685,000 in grants distributed by the Coquille Tribal Community Fund.
The Coquille Indian Tribe established the community fund in 2001 as a way to share profits from The Mill Casino-Hotel with community organizations. Since its inception, the fund has distributed close to $2.6 million to support charitable efforts throughout the region.
Over the last several years we have seen NUCOR, Home Depot, Weyerhaeuser, Glenbrook Nickel, Central Oregon Pacific Railroad all abandon the South Coast. American Bridge wanted to come to Coos Bay/North Bend but guess what, the community leaders could not work together to bring a successful resolution to this company. They located in Reedsport and since then have been unable to meet their plans due to infrastructure problems and a shallow waterway. (Coos Bay is the only deep water port between San Francisco and Seattle).
CEDCO has been progressive, has looked for opportunities to improve the entire South Coast Community, expanded what it has to offer to entice Conventions, organizations, and other Companies to relocate to this area.
It is very disheartening to see the continued ideals and demands of the Not in my backyard, head in the sand, no progress people who relish in the failures of anyone or any company that wants to bring something new to this community. Realize that every year, we export the greatest natural resource of this county, our High School Graduates.
As for those who say that "Those Indians" do nothing for this community, please read this article published in this Great! Periodical. One of many in the archives of this newspaper. www.theworldlink.com/articles/2008/03/01/news/doc47c8e4c34037e577161608.txt
Representatives of 35 South Coast nonprofit organizations and public agencies Thursday received more than $685,000 in grants distributed by the Coquille Tribal Community Fund.
The Coquille Indian Tribe established the community fund in 2001 as a way to share profits from The Mill Casino-Hotel with community organizations. Since its inception, the fund has distributed close to $2.6 million to support charitable efforts throughout the region.
Samuel wrote on Mar 13, 2008 10:09 PM:
Has anybody thought that Home Depot may have looked at the Economic standard of placing a store in this area and not the fact that it is indian related issues. They are probably think that since the unemployment if high, nobody will have any money to spend. Besides I have been in many Home Dept's and the prices really would not be any better than at Coos Head, Lumbermans. I have found that the local stores are more apt to have lower prices overall because they want the locals to use the businesses in the area and not go so far. I know when I was getting ready to go and purchase a car in Portland and I mentioned it to the local dealer, the dealing started happening and the offers were better than I expected and before I was planing on going out of town.
Mr Paul wrote on Mar 13, 2008 9:49 PM:
This is all just another slap in the face JOKE to all of us in Coos County. Weather it be recession,depression, indian,ignorance,prejudice, or just good old fashioned bad luck, You people,council members, tribal members, and any other member of any group that puts NO LNG signs in their yards and promotes zero growth, Take your selfish retired butts out of this beautiful area and let us younger families share in the beauty of raising OUR kids here. Your giant lumber hayday is over, you've enjoyed the days here. Take your fishing pole and your land yacht YOU CAN'T DRIVE and go to a warmer climate far far away. I welcome any other young people to share in this enthusiasm. Thank you. ROCK AND ROLL
The Truth wrote on Mar 13, 2008 9:34 PM:
Well from Oregon to Georgia...The new KKK has risen; trashing their hoods for the hidden anymonity of the blogs....Mexicans, Blacks, and now our native tribes must beware not to succumb to the hate spewed by these un-educated bigots.... Its easy for a weak man to be strong in secrecy.... Come to our neighboorhoods and call us out, dont hide in the shadows and be a closet racist...this is America. Grab a mic, be a man and speak your mind.
Citizen wrote on Mar 13, 2008 9:29 PM:
It's almost like this area was meant to be a place where people could just stay at home and wait to die. Now lets get that LNG terminal out of here and then the container business and be sure to discourage any expansion of Hwy 42 from I-5 to Coos Bay. It looks like we are going to be too late to do anything about the airport expansion. As long as we have the ship wreck and plenty of nursing homes and hospitals we should be okay. Don't forget to vote down the school bond. Maybe a second casino should be opened next to the existing casino. Wait... Sapphires could relocate there. Actually it looks like they are already working on that. Maybe a driving school could be opened up there. If I made a journal entry for every example of stupid driving that I see we'd have to re-open IP (That's International Paper for those who got here after it closed). If the rail service could be kept out of here long enough maybe American Bridge would close up and things could get really quiet. Atleast we'd have meth lab.
30-year-Bay Area Resident wrote on Mar 13, 2008 8:25 PM:
Wow, didn't both The World and the North Bend mayor tell us this deal was finalized?
Kay wrote on Mar 13, 2008 6:58 PM:
The most likely reason why Home Depot bailed out of the project is the decline of the housing market.
Less home purchases - less business in home renovations as well.
It's all been caused by greed: People who think they need to have houses they cannot really afford, mortgage lenders that couldn't get enough profit and tempted all kind of stupid customers to borrow beyond their means. And that is that
Less home purchases - less business in home renovations as well.
It's all been caused by greed: People who think they need to have houses they cannot really afford, mortgage lenders that couldn't get enough profit and tempted all kind of stupid customers to borrow beyond their means. And that is that
CC wrote on Mar 13, 2008 6:51 PM:
It is sad that Home Depot will not be coming to Coos County. The jobs do not start at minimum wage. At this point though any jobs in here would be a bonus minimum wage or not. Lets hope some other company will see the need here and locate to Coos County.. Come on COSTCO, Target, Lowes, Bath and Body Works and Trader Joes and all of those other businesses...
Indeed.... wrote on Mar 13, 2008 6:28 PM:
If I didn't have to pay taxes I'd have money to donate around the community too! And I wouldn't expect to have my backside constantly kissed for it in exchange, either.
As someone with a local vendor, I've seen firsthand how that organization strong-arms it's "partners" in the community. It's disgusting, our own Chamber enables it (Hint: Look at how many Chamber luncheons are held at The Mill, instead of "spreading the wealth" to other businesses here in town), and I am not the least bit surprised to hear the Home Depot deal fell through.
But why all the secrecy about the whole thing I wonder? Is that really just standard MO for them? I hadn't heard that part but the lack of responses makes me wonder....
As someone with a local vendor, I've seen firsthand how that organization strong-arms it's "partners" in the community. It's disgusting, our own Chamber enables it (Hint: Look at how many Chamber luncheons are held at The Mill, instead of "spreading the wealth" to other businesses here in town), and I am not the least bit surprised to hear the Home Depot deal fell through.
But why all the secrecy about the whole thing I wonder? Is that really just standard MO for them? I hadn't heard that part but the lack of responses makes me wonder....
Elaine wrote on Mar 13, 2008 6:23 PM:
I'm thrilled that Home Depot won't be locating here. If you want these big chain stores just drive over to Roseburg or on second thought move there.
Coos Bay Kid wrote on Mar 13, 2008 6:08 PM:
I hate to say I told you so. This is another huge setback for that area. It's hard to have hope when big deals like this fall through on a consistent basis.
I bet Farr's and Lumberman's are breathing a sigh of relief.
So much for growth.
I'm glad I'm not around to experience this type of treatment.
I bet Farr's and Lumberman's are breathing a sigh of relief.
So much for growth.
I'm glad I'm not around to experience this type of treatment.
Julie wrote on Mar 13, 2008 6:07 PM:
Shame on you "The World Newspaper"! your own participation guidelines state "Forum administrators and moderators have the right to edit, delete, move or close any comment at any time. The following rules and guidelines clarify our practices and provide an explanation of what content may lead to message deletion and/or user bans.
Please use your first name: Fake names and anonymous posts take away from the legitimacy of comments.
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So far in these comments all I see is slander, personal attacks, name-calling, Racial slurs and MORE... Shame on you "The World Newspaper" for allowing this to continue, YOU being the leading local source of "Printed News" should be held accountable for what is printed in your newspaper, on your website, and for encouraging those racial comments being seen here. This isn't about Indians and the Home Depot.. This story is about two businesses that were unable to reach an agreement and complete a business transaction for reasons unknown... there are ALWAYS two sides to the story. Perhaps you will grace us with a follow-up story from the Coquille Indian Tribe and from Home Depot.
Please use your first name: Fake names and anonymous posts take away from the legitimacy of comments.
Play nice! Messages containing intentionally misleading or false information, defamatory content, threats, verbal abuse, harassment, obscenity or personal information about other individuals are not allowed. Comments should be brief and stick to either generally known facts or the facts contained in a news story.
Keep a civil tone. Resist making personal attacks or indulging in name-calling. If your item doesn't get posted or is deleted, tone it down a bit and try again.
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So far in these comments all I see is slander, personal attacks, name-calling, Racial slurs and MORE... Shame on you "The World Newspaper" for allowing this to continue, YOU being the leading local source of "Printed News" should be held accountable for what is printed in your newspaper, on your website, and for encouraging those racial comments being seen here. This isn't about Indians and the Home Depot.. This story is about two businesses that were unable to reach an agreement and complete a business transaction for reasons unknown... there are ALWAYS two sides to the story. Perhaps you will grace us with a follow-up story from the Coquille Indian Tribe and from Home Depot.
Saddened by the news wrote on Mar 13, 2008 6:05 PM:
Wow! a lot of ignorant information in this blog. Home Depot is pulling out because the economy is in a recession, period! Just look at Home Depots stock trend. This has nothing to do with the area, the tribe, the city, the county. It's called the economics of supply and demand! Oh by the way this property is not exempt from taxes, check with the County assessor. Also ask the city of North Bend how much the tribe pays for services for the casino property? (Its in the $300-400k range.) Please Don't try to compare the I5 corridor to Hwy 101, again its supply and demand. Seven Feathers grosses more in one day than the Mill Casino does in a week, just check the traffic count. While we are talking about exempt why don't you add to your list cities, counties, states, school districts, the federal government. How much infrastructure and property is owned by these entities that is tax exempt? Trillions! While we are on the subject of gaming and casinos, how many billions of dollars are collected from the lottery?
Get off the racist comments and educate yourself!
The bottom line is that this is bad news for the area, if you live here and cared about the area you would know this!
Get off the racist comments and educate yourself!
The bottom line is that this is bad news for the area, if you live here and cared about the area you would know this!
Real wrote on Mar 13, 2008 5:37 PM:
Time to wakeup and smell the coffee. It doesn't take a degree in econimics to understand that The Home Depot was already looking for a way to bail on the deal. They have been having problems for over 2 years now including closing existing stores because they were over extended. The Home Depot certainly wouldn't be building a new store in depressed area in these poor economic times. Unfortuntely for the Bay area they made a good business decison. NB Native...Don't hold your breath for them to build elsewhere in Coos county.
Disappointed wrote on Mar 13, 2008 5:33 PM:
Oh gee thanks. I was looking forward to Home Depot and you yahoos had to ruin it didn't you. My son, who is of the Navajo tribe, states perhaps they can build somewhere else where someone isn't trying to pick their pockets.
Concerned citizen wrote on Mar 13, 2008 5:12 PM:
I was wondering since the Home Depot was to be built on the "Indian land" would they not have had to pay anykind of taxes to do business in North Bend. Since there is no taxes paid on Indian land, they probably would not have paid any either. Just think if someone other than Indians owned that land, the high property taxes the county would be getting from all that waterfront property. And don't tell me the Indians used to own ALL the land. That was long ago and this is now and the Indians have had just as much chance to make something of or for themselves as anyone else, so why is gambling establishments the only way they can do it ?????? Stealing everything back by way of casinos I guess is the easy way. I guess Home Depot wouldn't be able to make a go of it here, since everyones welfare and social security checks go to the Mill casinos machines, and no money left to fix up their homes, just look around here at all the shacks and dumps people live in and take no pride in fixing them up.
CB wrote on Mar 13, 2008 4:52 PM:
I do hope Home Depot comes in someplace around here, just not at the Casino site. And the MILL CASINO is taking in way more money than they pay out, and they don't donate "millions" back into the community either, where did you dream that up ? ? ?
sauvage wrote on Mar 13, 2008 4:51 PM:
I don't understand why my indian friends are be hammered for the recision of the home depot deal and I have no doubt that they will develop what is to be built some other way ,and I don't like the talk of the casino falling into the bay, I think that more good comes to the larger community from the sharing of casino income , than from the people who put indian business down.
Ha wrote on Mar 13, 2008 4:51 PM:
A casino as a successful business. That's rich. Do any folks know that it's actually very, VERY difficult to run a casino into the ground in this state? The Mill is almost laughed at by every other community in Oregon with, or near, a casino.
I cannot help but wonder what will happen when retirees die off in the Bay Area... what will the casino do then? They certainly aren't attracting tourists like Seven Feathers, Chinook Winds, or Spirit Mountain do, even though the coast is a desirable destination. Heck, Three Rivers (which is, essentially, a brand new establishment) is going to be a far more desirable casino for the tourist crowd in coming years. Klamoya is probably the only casino in the state that's run worse than the Mill, but it's in the middle of NOWHERE.
I cannot help but wonder what will happen when retirees die off in the Bay Area... what will the casino do then? They certainly aren't attracting tourists like Seven Feathers, Chinook Winds, or Spirit Mountain do, even though the coast is a desirable destination. Heck, Three Rivers (which is, essentially, a brand new establishment) is going to be a far more desirable casino for the tourist crowd in coming years. Klamoya is probably the only casino in the state that's run worse than the Mill, but it's in the middle of NOWHERE.
Jason wrote on Mar 13, 2008 4:48 PM:
So why are we paying for something that was long before I ws here. will our kids pay for it too, being they weren't here either!
FRUSTRATED! wrote on Mar 13, 2008 4:46 PM:
ARGH!!!!!!!!! This town is so incredibly FRUSTRATING! After all of the hard work put into trying to get a new store in town it goes South NOW? I'll bet there are a lot of other frustrated people who would like to know more details about this!
Chris (a tax paying Indian) wrote on Mar 13, 2008 4:46 PM:
Hey Home Depot, next time you don't want to build somewhere, just say no. It would save a lot of time and money. Not just the Tribe's, but the elected leaders (republican and democrat)who pushed legislation because they believed it would benefit the entire community. Bring on Lowes.
Jason wrote on Mar 13, 2008 4:46 PM:
And tax exempt too. I wish I was that lucky. But the sevens never line up for me.
Personally wrote on Mar 13, 2008 4:43 PM:
I'm glad that everyone in this town was so excited to see a bunch of minimum wage jobs come in. It seems that the only kinds of businesses people want here are crappy service jobs, so they can save a few pennies and continue to see the economy spiral down the toilet.
Walmart, run by a bunch of thoughtless, money-hungry Arkansas hicks, and a casino run by a somewhat racist group (ask some non-native American employees of the Mill, current or former, who aren't involved in business administration or other educated positions, how they feel about the "equal opportunities" they receive)... those two entities control the bay area's business prospects for years to come. And that is a problem.
Oh, and OCG, it IS about the Coquille tribe. They own the land, and are notoriously difficult to deal with. This deal could have easily been done had the property been owned by the city of North Bend or the Port of Coos Bay (as inept as those entities are).
Oh, and where are those millions of dollars they contribute going? Had the casino been built in a city with some brass, such as Portland, they would have been required to make NUMEROUS improvements to Highway 101 in the vicinity of the casino... both improving functionality (especially for pedestrians) and improving the look of the vicinity of the property. Go look at the improvements Seven Feathers has done over the years... the Mill has done almost nothing to the surrounding area!
Walmart, run by a bunch of thoughtless, money-hungry Arkansas hicks, and a casino run by a somewhat racist group (ask some non-native American employees of the Mill, current or former, who aren't involved in business administration or other educated positions, how they feel about the "equal opportunities" they receive)... those two entities control the bay area's business prospects for years to come. And that is a problem.
Oh, and OCG, it IS about the Coquille tribe. They own the land, and are notoriously difficult to deal with. This deal could have easily been done had the property been owned by the city of North Bend or the Port of Coos Bay (as inept as those entities are).
Oh, and where are those millions of dollars they contribute going? Had the casino been built in a city with some brass, such as Portland, they would have been required to make NUMEROUS improvements to Highway 101 in the vicinity of the casino... both improving functionality (especially for pedestrians) and improving the look of the vicinity of the property. Go look at the improvements Seven Feathers has done over the years... the Mill has done almost nothing to the surrounding area!
Native Native! wrote on Mar 13, 2008 4:41 PM:
Too bad the project fell through for the Home Depot and CEDCO, but giving the economy of the "poor citizens" of Coos County, they most likely wouldn't have been able to support such a LARGE store in this area. Would have depended on those dumb Indians to come up with yet ANOTHER idea to try and make something worthwhile to bring to this area and... let us not forget (NB Native) that "Their Property" use to be EVERYWHERE but all they have now are pieces of properties spread all over to make successful businesses and be ridiculed and have prejudices against.
Jason wrote on Mar 13, 2008 4:39 PM:
NB Native...those "indians" you talk about were here long before you were, so the whole native thing doesn't work for me...secondly, what a disgusting, ignorant comment to make, people like you are why successful companies balk at doing business here...too many idiots to make it work.
Oregon Coast Girl wrote on Mar 13, 2008 4:26 PM:
This makes me sick to know a big business will not be comming here, but it makes me sicker to hear the remarks about the indians. The casino has provided many jobs in this area for people that might have to move to find work, due to mill closing, or other buisiness, plus they donate millions of dollars back into this commuity years. Get real foks it not about the indian/the casino, this is about the home depo not wanted to come here.
Maybe... wrote on Mar 13, 2008 4:19 PM:
Hopeful, if they don't pull out the Mill, maybe it will fall in to the bay with the extra weight of the hotel?
Hopeful wrote on Mar 13, 2008 4:17 PM:
Hey, since Home Depot pulled out, is there any chance the Mill Casino will pull out too? Hope, as they say, springs eternal!
NB Native wrote on Mar 13, 2008 4:08 PM:
Must have been to hard to work with the Indians, since they can do what they want and you can't do anything to them.. Would be a lose, lose situation for Home Depot if things didn't go well, you can't do anything to the Indians and especially on "their property"
I would love to see Home Depot build someplace else in Coos County tho....
I would love to see Home Depot build someplace else in Coos County tho....
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