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I know Jack wrote on Jul 14, 2008 8:51 PM:
"Elizabeth wrote on Apr 5, 2008 1:50 PM:
No McCainFan, unlike whatever posted at 10:01 PM, the real Janice is actually as non-racist as she is literate."
SHE SHOULD KNOW ALL ABOUT JANICE, SINCE ELIZABETH/JANICE/KAY ARE ONE AND THE SAME PERSON!!!!!!!!
Bwah Ha Ha Ha Hawahahahahahahahah
No McCainFan, unlike whatever posted at 10:01 PM, the real Janice is actually as non-racist as she is literate."
SHE SHOULD KNOW ALL ABOUT JANICE, SINCE ELIZABETH/JANICE/KAY ARE ONE AND THE SAME PERSON!!!!!!!!
Bwah Ha Ha Ha Hawahahahahahahahah
Nobama wrote on Jun 1, 2008 2:48 PM:
By the Democratic Nominee, in his calculated political wisdom finally quitting TRINITY UNITED CHURCH OF CHRIST proves Rev. Wright's words that Obama is a 'typical politician'. He had thrown his white Grandmother under the bus, Rev. Wright under the bus, now he threw his whole church under the bus. Watch out Michelle! You married a man who puts his personal agenda over everything else. After 20 years of hearing the same type of sermons, witnessing the same type of actions and being a party to the same mind set, Obama has now decided to quit the Church that he has so defended for months.
http://www.dontvoteobama.net/
http://www.dontvoteobama.net/
Megan wrote on May 8, 2008 1:49 AM:
Janice,
Saddam was helping train and finance many terrorist organizations at the time...findings of which were in the same report that you quoted out of context somewhat. Here is a link to the entire finding, if you would like to read the remainder of the report. (btw...they are still NOWHERE near finished going through the Harmony docs...so there could still be more revelations to come)
http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/Saddam%20and%20Terrorism%20Redaction%20EXSUM%20Extract.pdf
Saddam was helping train and finance many terrorist organizations at the time...findings of which were in the same report that you quoted out of context somewhat. Here is a link to the entire finding, if you would like to read the remainder of the report. (btw...they are still NOWHERE near finished going through the Harmony docs...so there could still be more revelations to come)
http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/Saddam%20and%20Terrorism%20Redaction%20EXSUM%20Extract.pdf
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steve wrote on Apr 7, 2008 2:23 AM:
thankyou dissapointed! although it you need to vote cause if you dont you will be giving your vote to the 'blind' like Janice. Think about.
and Janice, we went to war against Iraq because of terrorism! Insurgants were building missiles that wouldve reached the US. You didnt know about it cause it was 'classified'. It is now not classified so you need to get your facts staight and quit watching the biased CNN. CNN intereview a buddy of mine and I personally say it at a later date and CNN changed EVERYTHING to their 'anti-war' approach.
and Janice, we went to war against Iraq because of terrorism! Insurgants were building missiles that wouldve reached the US. You didnt know about it cause it was 'classified'. It is now not classified so you need to get your facts staight and quit watching the biased CNN. CNN intereview a buddy of mine and I personally say it at a later date and CNN changed EVERYTHING to their 'anti-war' approach.
Blodsinn Reden wrote on Apr 6, 2008 10:34 PM:
Thomas,
I am by no means a McCain Fan. I disagree with him on many of his positions.
He just happens to be the least socialist of the 3 candidates left.
Actually Bob Barr & Ron Paul might bear some looking into depending on what their stands are on spending and economic issues.
So far not one of the 3 has indicated they are willing to change the status quo where it comes to the banking and creating money out of thin air.
This after all is why the price of everything is skyrocketing. The dollar is worth very little and getting worse the more money we flood the economy with.
I don't believe the massive spending programs the Dem's are talking about will help this situation.
I am by no means a McCain Fan. I disagree with him on many of his positions.
He just happens to be the least socialist of the 3 candidates left.
Actually Bob Barr & Ron Paul might bear some looking into depending on what their stands are on spending and economic issues.
So far not one of the 3 has indicated they are willing to change the status quo where it comes to the banking and creating money out of thin air.
This after all is why the price of everything is skyrocketing. The dollar is worth very little and getting worse the more money we flood the economy with.
I don't believe the massive spending programs the Dem's are talking about will help this situation.
Janice wrote on Apr 6, 2008 1:08 PM:
Disappointed - you may want to read this.
WASHINGTON (CNN) The U.S. military's 1st and only study looking into ties between Saddam Hussein's Iraq and al Qaeda showed no connection between the two, according to a military report released by the Pentagon.
The report released by the Joint Forces Command 5 years after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq said it found no "smoking gun" after reviewing about 600,000 Iraqi documents captured in the invasion and looking at interviews of key Iraqi leadership held by the U.S., Pentagon officials said.
WASHINGTON (CNN) The U.S. military's 1st and only study looking into ties between Saddam Hussein's Iraq and al Qaeda showed no connection between the two, according to a military report released by the Pentagon.
The report released by the Joint Forces Command 5 years after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq said it found no "smoking gun" after reviewing about 600,000 Iraqi documents captured in the invasion and looking at interviews of key Iraqi leadership held by the U.S., Pentagon officials said.
Disappointed wrote on Apr 6, 2008 1:22 AM:
I am not even going to vote.
I read someone say that "in God we trust" and "One nation under God" means nothing. It does to me!
Jesus is the ONLY true God. He did die, rose, and is alive today. Those who say it does not matter what religion our president believes, I'm sorry to say, but it does. The leader of this country needs to not depend on himself, but on God.
I get sick of hearing people bash the war and they are not the one's fighting it! If you have not fought, your opinion on it really means nothing.
I quote Steve who said, "As An Iraqi Freedom VET it eats me ALIVE to hear ANYONE say we went to war for oil. DID NOT HAPPEN. Get your facts straight. We went to Iraq to end terrorism. Terrorism started in Iraq and Afganistan. That is why we are there." I say THANK YOU!!! It really irritates me to hear that we were lied to by Bush and blah, blah, blah.
We were attacked people. Wake up! That is why we are there!
I read someone say that "in God we trust" and "One nation under God" means nothing. It does to me!
Jesus is the ONLY true God. He did die, rose, and is alive today. Those who say it does not matter what religion our president believes, I'm sorry to say, but it does. The leader of this country needs to not depend on himself, but on God.
I get sick of hearing people bash the war and they are not the one's fighting it! If you have not fought, your opinion on it really means nothing.
I quote Steve who said, "As An Iraqi Freedom VET it eats me ALIVE to hear ANYONE say we went to war for oil. DID NOT HAPPEN. Get your facts straight. We went to Iraq to end terrorism. Terrorism started in Iraq and Afganistan. That is why we are there." I say THANK YOU!!! It really irritates me to hear that we were lied to by Bush and blah, blah, blah.
We were attacked people. Wake up! That is why we are there!
Thomas wrote on Apr 5, 2008 7:32 PM:
John McCain dumped his first wife, the mother of his three children, after she was disfigured and disabled by a near-fatal car accident, so that he could marry his extremely wealthy beer heiress-mistress, whose family wealth then launched his political career and sustained a life of luxury for almost three decades, which is how his sprawling Sedona compound came to be.
I'd be nice if the McSame was questioned a bit too.
I'd be nice if the McSame was questioned a bit too.
Frank wrote on Apr 5, 2008 6:24 PM:
Joyce,
There are lots of ways for you to find out more about Obama. He's written two best-selling autobiographical books. There's plenty of other stuff that has been written about him. A lot of it (the positive stuff) is even true.
Those "powerful forces" are just the millions of Americans, like myself, who are tired of big-machine politics and want inelligent decisions made for the safety and benefit of all citizens, not just the wealthy and corporations.
In the meantime, calm down and take a deep breath. Don't be afraid. Everything will be just fine.
There are lots of ways for you to find out more about Obama. He's written two best-selling autobiographical books. There's plenty of other stuff that has been written about him. A lot of it (the positive stuff) is even true.
Those "powerful forces" are just the millions of Americans, like myself, who are tired of big-machine politics and want inelligent decisions made for the safety and benefit of all citizens, not just the wealthy and corporations.
In the meantime, calm down and take a deep breath. Don't be afraid. Everything will be just fine.
shell wrote on Apr 5, 2008 5:25 PM:
Does this article suggest that anyone who comes from a different faith has to be bound by that previous faith and have no real "freedom" from being a born again christian, I hope as americans that we can treat everyone with dignity and respect and not be trying to place extreme view about anybody. May Barack bring about the change this country needs. People can be, a somebody, no matter what race, creed, or color. thankyou!
Elizabeth wrote on Apr 5, 2008 1:50 PM:
No McCainFan, unlike whatever posted at 10:01 PM, the real Janice is actually as non-racist as she is literate.
Hope that helps :)
Hope that helps :)
Blodsinn Reden wrote on Apr 5, 2008 1:09 PM:
I only hope that everyone REALLY looks into all the history yet to come out about Mr. Obama before blindly following the "CHANGE" chant without knowing what that change might mean.
1. Can someone really hang out with someone for 20 years w/o having ALOT in common with them (Rev Wright)
2. Can someone be that blind in a real estate deal not to know that getting the kind of under market deal he got there was some shady gift involved.
3. Do we really want the 1968 radicals having the ear of our next president (his friend of the weather underground)
Personally Obama scares me.
1. Can someone really hang out with someone for 20 years w/o having ALOT in common with them (Rev Wright)
2. Can someone be that blind in a real estate deal not to know that getting the kind of under market deal he got there was some shady gift involved.
3. Do we really want the 1968 radicals having the ear of our next president (his friend of the weather underground)
Personally Obama scares me.
McCainfan wrote on Apr 4, 2008 6:13 PM:
Its too bad it wasnt the real Janice. hahah... had my hope up that she'd seen the light! There is still hope for you though Janice. Course I could win the lottery too.
CC wrote on Apr 4, 2008 9:09 AM:
To the original Janice, too bad that I thought that was you. This just goes to show that psuedo names are as believing as the blogs themselves.
Janice wrote on Apr 4, 2008 8:34 AM:
I don't know if the previous post by "Janice" is from someone by that name or not. However, it was not my post and does not reflect my feelings.
I enjoy the discussions in this blog and don't always agree with everyone but, I try to backup my reasoning with fact when I can. I have learned from many of the bloggers and will keep on posting.
In the future, use your own name not mine.
I enjoy the discussions in this blog and don't always agree with everyone but, I try to backup my reasoning with fact when I can. I have learned from many of the bloggers and will keep on posting.
In the future, use your own name not mine.
JANICE wrote on Apr 3, 2008 10:01 PM:
I think if we vote for McCain we will be better off. Oboma and Clinton as well as the rest of the democrat tree huggin, tofu eate, birkenstock wearin, tyedyed freaks need to find another planet!
Lets just hope McCain can find Osoma and Boot the Mexicans OUT and Keep EM out.
Lets just hope McCain can find Osoma and Boot the Mexicans OUT and Keep EM out.
Jim wrote on Apr 3, 2008 5:32 AM:
I understood EXACTLY what Obama was referring too. I also said he made a VERY POOR choice of words, which he did. It isnt about "spin." Good lord, every time George Bush (who is not my favorite president...not happy with him) opens his mouth, the left ridicules him as being an illiterate. Obama is certainly no illiterate, hesaid the right thing the wrong way. Maybe he will learn from it.
really? wrote on Apr 2, 2008 2:55 PM:
CC - Obama's statements were in regard to sex eduation and withholding it from teens. When children are denied information and are allowed to live in ignorance regarding both contraception and the consequences of unprotected sex, then that is the "punishment" he is referring to. It was not a statement about having children in general, though some wish to perpetuate that "spin" on his comment.
Roland wrote on Apr 2, 2008 2:32 PM:
Obama is just as crooked as the rest of them whatever his religious affliation is. Anyone involved with the CFR (and all the candidates are) should not be allowed to run for president.
In 2006 Obama was involved in a suspicious real estate deal with an indicted political fundraiser, “Tony” Rezko. In 2007 it was reported that just two months after he joined the Senate, Obama purchased $50,000 worth of stock in speculative companies whose major investors were his biggest campaign contributors. One of the companies was a biotech concern that benefited from legislation Obama pushed just two weeks after the senator purchased $5,000 of the company’s shares. Obama was also nabbed conducting campaign business in his Senate office, a violation of federal law.
Obama has been "groomed" for this position by the powers that rule. He has a prolific presidential lineage that features Democrats and Republicans. His distant cousins include George W. Bush Jr and Sr, Gerald Ford, Lyndon Johnson, Harry S. Truman and James Madison. Other cousins include VP Cheney, Sir Winston Churchill and Civil War General Robert E. Lee.
In 2006 Obama was involved in a suspicious real estate deal with an indicted political fundraiser, “Tony” Rezko. In 2007 it was reported that just two months after he joined the Senate, Obama purchased $50,000 worth of stock in speculative companies whose major investors were his biggest campaign contributors. One of the companies was a biotech concern that benefited from legislation Obama pushed just two weeks after the senator purchased $5,000 of the company’s shares. Obama was also nabbed conducting campaign business in his Senate office, a violation of federal law.
Obama has been "groomed" for this position by the powers that rule. He has a prolific presidential lineage that features Democrats and Republicans. His distant cousins include George W. Bush Jr and Sr, Gerald Ford, Lyndon Johnson, Harry S. Truman and James Madison. Other cousins include VP Cheney, Sir Winston Churchill and Civil War General Robert E. Lee.
CC wrote on Apr 2, 2008 1:46 PM:
So, (1) Obama's daughters are "miracles," but (2) Obama says that babies are a "punishment," and (3) he equates getting pregnant with getting an STD. Is that the Point?
Janice wrote on Apr 2, 2008 1:10 PM:
I think the point Senator Obama was trying to make was that teenagers having babies is an enormous burden on everyone involved.
Jim wrote on Apr 2, 2008 10:29 AM:
a REAL man never walks away. I was alarmed at Obama's trivialization of responsibility and callous reference to a baby as "punishment."
Ann wrote on Apr 2, 2008 8:27 AM:
Spoken like a true man, Jim. Men have the luxury of walking away anytime they want.
Jim wrote on Apr 1, 2008 7:07 PM:
Here is an Obama gem....when discussing unwanted pregnancy..he said he wouldnt want his daughters, if they "made a mistake" (and got pregnant), to be "punished with a baby."
Nice. Compassion. PUNISHED with a baby. Since when is a child PUNISHMENT??? Does God say "oh...you had sex...I think I will punish you with a child." ???
REALLY poor choice of words, Senator.
Nice. Compassion. PUNISHED with a baby. Since when is a child PUNISHMENT??? Does God say "oh...you had sex...I think I will punish you with a child." ???
REALLY poor choice of words, Senator.
Really? wrote on Mar 31, 2008 9:55 PM:
Will - Jesus IS a liberal.
re. peace versus war: Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. Resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
re. separation of church and state: Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the
things that are God's.
re. social programs: But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just.
re. community: Love your neighbor as yourself.
re. peace versus war: Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. Resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
re. separation of church and state: Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the
things that are God's.
re. social programs: But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just.
re. community: Love your neighbor as yourself.
Janice wrote on Mar 31, 2008 4:14 PM:
A little more of Senator Obama's support of Israel follows:
On August 16, 2007, Obama issued a press release supporting the provision of $30 billion in military aid to Israel.
Obama's presidential campaign's position paper on Israel says, "Barack Obama has consistently supported foreign assistance to Israel. He defends and supports the annual foreign aid package that involves both military and economic assistance to Israel and has advocated increased foreign aid budgets to ensure that these funding priorities are met. Additionally, he has called for sustaining the unique U.S.-Israel defense relationship by fully funding military assistance and continuing cooperative work on missile defense programs, such as the Arrow."
In a January 29 fact sheet, the National Jewish Democratic Council stated that Obama "has voted multiple times in favor of foreign aid and is a leader in pushing for divestment from Iran."
An article of the March 3 issue of Newsweek reported: "Almost unanimously, American Jewish leaders say Obama's voting record and public pronouncements paint him squarely as an Israel supporter.
On August 16, 2007, Obama issued a press release supporting the provision of $30 billion in military aid to Israel.
Obama's presidential campaign's position paper on Israel says, "Barack Obama has consistently supported foreign assistance to Israel. He defends and supports the annual foreign aid package that involves both military and economic assistance to Israel and has advocated increased foreign aid budgets to ensure that these funding priorities are met. Additionally, he has called for sustaining the unique U.S.-Israel defense relationship by fully funding military assistance and continuing cooperative work on missile defense programs, such as the Arrow."
In a January 29 fact sheet, the National Jewish Democratic Council stated that Obama "has voted multiple times in favor of foreign aid and is a leader in pushing for divestment from Iran."
An article of the March 3 issue of Newsweek reported: "Almost unanimously, American Jewish leaders say Obama's voting record and public pronouncements paint him squarely as an Israel supporter.
Janice wrote on Mar 31, 2008 4:11 PM:
If Senator Obama is anti-Israel he is doing a good job of faking it.
On November 10, 2005, Obama voted in favor of the conference report for the bill making appropriations for the State Department, including more than $2.2 billion in military aid to Israel.
On February 14, 2007, Obama voted in favor of a continuing resolution that included more than $2.3 billion in military aid to Israel.
On March 2, 2007, Obama told the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC): "At the same time, we must preserve our total commitment to our unique defense relationship with Israel by fully funding military assistance and continuing work on the Arrow and related missile defense programs. This would help Israel maintain its military edge and deter and repel attacks from as far as Tehran and as close as Gaza."
On November 10, 2005, Obama voted in favor of the conference report for the bill making appropriations for the State Department, including more than $2.2 billion in military aid to Israel.
On February 14, 2007, Obama voted in favor of a continuing resolution that included more than $2.3 billion in military aid to Israel.
On March 2, 2007, Obama told the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC): "At the same time, we must preserve our total commitment to our unique defense relationship with Israel by fully funding military assistance and continuing work on the Arrow and related missile defense programs. This would help Israel maintain its military edge and deter and repel attacks from as far as Tehran and as close as Gaza."
will wrote on Mar 31, 2008 2:33 PM:
Obama rejects biblical christianity also.It has become more and more common for mainstream churches to align themsleves with liberal ideals and try and pass them off as christianity.Having lived in the nations Capitol i most of the people i met and worked with who proclaimed christ didn't even believe he ever lived,and where extremely sure he never rose from the dead.Even though that is fashionable now it is still wrong to have a belief system that rejects the word of God and call it Christianity.
I tend to think both Obama and Hillary are on the same page as far as their faith and ideas for the direction of this nation.Neither of them will speak openly about it either.Even if you look at their campaign in Oregon they really only speak to their base. And pretend that the entire state wishes we where all eco-sociomarists who believe anything they tell us.
I tend to think both Obama and Hillary are on the same page as far as their faith and ideas for the direction of this nation.Neither of them will speak openly about it either.Even if you look at their campaign in Oregon they really only speak to their base. And pretend that the entire state wishes we where all eco-sociomarists who believe anything they tell us.
CC wrote on Mar 31, 2008 12:25 PM:
Janice, do you know Sen. Obama's position on Israel? Sen. Barack Obama is currently hiding his anti-Israel according to a well-known anti-Israel activist. The activist, Ali Abunimah, claimed to know Obama well and to have met him on numerous occasions at pro-Palestinian events in Chicago.
Janice wrote on Mar 31, 2008 8:48 AM:
AntiJanice/Obama: I bet you would be wrong. I would take a good long look at your voting record and your stand on ALLl of the issues before I gave you my vote. We all have an obligation to be informed voters.
CC wrote on Mar 31, 2008 7:36 AM:
Every Senator endorses and co sponsors several Amendments, not all become Bills (Remember the song from School House Rock?)The ONLY ones that Sen. Obama co-sponsored/sponsored that were actually passed were the following:
1. A resolution that sought to promote democracy in the Democratic Republic of Congo 2. "National Summer Learning Day" and 3.A resolution celebrating the life of Bishop Gilbert Earl Patterson
1. A resolution that sought to promote democracy in the Democratic Republic of Congo 2. "National Summer Learning Day" and 3.A resolution celebrating the life of Bishop Gilbert Earl Patterson
Black is Beautiful wrote on Mar 30, 2008 7:54 PM:
The fact is Obama talks a good talk but he is nothing more than an impersonator unable and unfit for the role of being the first Black American to rise from captivity to the dignity and honor of becoming the President of the United States of America. To be historically accurate Obama does have a connection to the Black American struggle and the tragedy of American slavery. Barack Obama's American ancestors were slave owners.
AntiJanice/obama wrote on Mar 30, 2008 6:49 PM:
OOOHHH my...Janice will you do me a favor and walk outside....ok; now breath a breath of fresh air...ok; now, welcome back to reality.
Have you heard of people telling you what you want to hear? Sometimes thats not a good thing. I could tell you I will give every American $10,000 and healthcare of their choosing; I would stop ALL wars and create a 'Peace Outlook' agency to travel the World to promote this and Promise it will bring "World Peacce".
I bet you would vote for me
Have you heard of people telling you what you want to hear? Sometimes thats not a good thing. I could tell you I will give every American $10,000 and healthcare of their choosing; I would stop ALL wars and create a 'Peace Outlook' agency to travel the World to promote this and Promise it will bring "World Peacce".
I bet you would vote for me
Janice wrote on Mar 29, 2008 3:13 PM:
Barack has Written a total of 890 Bills and Co-sponsored Another 1096 since he started serving in the U.S. Senate.
Janice wrote on Mar 29, 2008 3:12 PM:
More of Senator Obama's Amendments:
S.Amdt.159 to S.Con.Res.18 - To prevent and, if necessary, respond to an international outbreak of the avian flu.
S.Amdt.390 to H.R.1268 - To provide meal and telephone benefits for members of the Armed Forces who are recuperating from injuries incurred on active duty in Operation Iraqi Freedom or Operation Enduring Freedom.
S.Amdt.670 to H.R.3 - To provide for Flexible Fuel Vehicle (FFV) refueling capability at new and existing refueling station facilities to promote energy security and reduction of greenhouse gas emissions.
S.Amdt.808 to H.R.6 - To establish a program to develop Fischer-Tropsch transportation fuels from Illinois basin coal.
S.Amdt.851 to H.R.6 - To require the Secretary to establish a Joint Flexible Fuel/Hybrid Vehicle Commercialization Initiative, and for other purposes.
S.Amdt.1362 to S.1042 - To require a report on the Department of Defense Composite Health Care System II.
S.Amdt.1453 to S.1402 - To ensure the protection of military and civilian personnel in the Department of Defense from an influenza pandemic, including an avian influenza pandemic.
S.Amdt.159 to S.Con.Res.18 - To prevent and, if necessary, respond to an international outbreak of the avian flu.
S.Amdt.390 to H.R.1268 - To provide meal and telephone benefits for members of the Armed Forces who are recuperating from injuries incurred on active duty in Operation Iraqi Freedom or Operation Enduring Freedom.
S.Amdt.670 to H.R.3 - To provide for Flexible Fuel Vehicle (FFV) refueling capability at new and existing refueling station facilities to promote energy security and reduction of greenhouse gas emissions.
S.Amdt.808 to H.R.6 - To establish a program to develop Fischer-Tropsch transportation fuels from Illinois basin coal.
S.Amdt.851 to H.R.6 - To require the Secretary to establish a Joint Flexible Fuel/Hybrid Vehicle Commercialization Initiative, and for other purposes.
S.Amdt.1362 to S.1042 - To require a report on the Department of Defense Composite Health Care System II.
S.Amdt.1453 to S.1402 - To ensure the protection of military and civilian personnel in the Department of Defense from an influenza pandemic, including an avian influenza pandemic.
Janice wrote on Mar 29, 2008 11:41 AM:
CC - maybe you should check out Obama's record for yourself.
Here's a couple of more amendments that Obama is responsible for:
S.Amdt.2930 to S.2349 - To clarify that availability of legislation does not include nonbusiness days.
S.Amdt.3144 to S.Con.Res.83 - To provide a $40 million increase in FY 2007 for the Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program and to improve job services for hard-to-place veterans
S. Amdt 41 to S. 1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.
His record speaks for itself. TELL THE WORLD!
Here's a couple of more amendments that Obama is responsible for:
S.Amdt.2930 to S.2349 - To clarify that availability of legislation does not include nonbusiness days.
S.Amdt.3144 to S.Con.Res.83 - To provide a $40 million increase in FY 2007 for the Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program and to improve job services for hard-to-place veterans
S. Amdt 41 to S. 1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.
His record speaks for itself. TELL THE WORLD!
Janice wrote on Mar 29, 2008 11:40 AM:
CC - maybe you should check out Obama's record for yourself.
Here's a couple of more amendments that Obama is responsible for:
S.Amdt.2930 to S.2349 - To clarify that availability of legislation does not include nonbusiness days.
S.Amdt.3144 to S.Con.Res.83 - To provide a $40 million increase in FY 2007 for the Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program and to improve job services for hard-to-place veterans
S. Amdt 41 to S. 1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.
His record speaks for itself.
Here's a couple of more amendments that Obama is responsible for:
S.Amdt.2930 to S.2349 - To clarify that availability of legislation does not include nonbusiness days.
S.Amdt.3144 to S.Con.Res.83 - To provide a $40 million increase in FY 2007 for the Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program and to improve job services for hard-to-place veterans
S. Amdt 41 to S. 1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.
His record speaks for itself.
Janice wrote on Mar 29, 2008 11:33 AM:
Some more of Obama's Senate work:
HOPE Act, which increased Pell Grants to $5100, and later joined Senator Kennedy on the Higher Education legislation that passed July 20, by a vote of 78-18.
**The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006
is an act that requires the full disclosure of all entities or organizations receiving federal funds beginning in fiscal year (FY) 2007 on a website maintained by the Office of Management and Budget.
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/53_17/news/19664-1.html?...
http://www.commonblog.com/story/2007/9/14/164837/331
** The “Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act.
** S116 - Summer Learning demonstration project to provide summer learning grants and encourage new teaching methods.
Obama's Global Poverty Act of 2007, passed out of committee just a few days ago
The Global Poverty Act (S.2433), which requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive policy to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief, and coordination with the international community, businesses and NGOs.
HOPE Act, which increased Pell Grants to $5100, and later joined Senator Kennedy on the Higher Education legislation that passed July 20, by a vote of 78-18.
**The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006
is an act that requires the full disclosure of all entities or organizations receiving federal funds beginning in fiscal year (FY) 2007 on a website maintained by the Office of Management and Budget.
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/53_17/news/19664-1.html?...
http://www.commonblog.com/story/2007/9/14/164837/331
** The “Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act.
** S116 - Summer Learning demonstration project to provide summer learning grants and encourage new teaching methods.
Obama's Global Poverty Act of 2007, passed out of committee just a few days ago
The Global Poverty Act (S.2433), which requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive policy to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief, and coordination with the international community, businesses and NGOs.
Janice wrote on Mar 29, 2008 11:07 AM:
Senator Obama co-sponsored the following:
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act
Authored by U.S. Sens. Dick Lugar (R-IN) and Barack Obama (D-IL), the Lugar-Obama initiative expands U.S. cooperation to destroy conventional weapons. It also expands the State Department's ability to detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction.
Signed into Law on January 11, 2007.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/chrisblas...
THIS IS SIGNIFICANT LEGISLATION THAT WILL KEEP AMERICAN SAFE. SENATOR OBAMA WORKING ACROSS THE AISLE TO GET THE JOB DONE.
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act
Authored by U.S. Sens. Dick Lugar (R-IN) and Barack Obama (D-IL), the Lugar-Obama initiative expands U.S. cooperation to destroy conventional weapons. It also expands the State Department's ability to detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction.
Signed into Law on January 11, 2007.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/chrisblas...
THIS IS SIGNIFICANT LEGISLATION THAT WILL KEEP AMERICAN SAFE. SENATOR OBAMA WORKING ACROSS THE AISLE TO GET THE JOB DONE.
CC wrote on Mar 29, 2008 9:32 AM:
Chris Matthews humiliated State Senator Watson(D-TX) when he couldn't name an accomplishment of Sen. Obama's short senate career. He sponsored 2 bills that became law: — a bill that sought to promote democracy in the Democratic Republic of Congo. — and a bill that named a post office. Tell the world!
steve wrote on Mar 28, 2008 3:18 PM:
i guess freedom of speech dosnt apply at the WORLDLINK. Where did my last post go? What a shame
Young Voter wrote on Mar 27, 2008 4:33 PM:
I work for an oil company andlast years tax bill for ExxonMobil was 100 million plus. That is the reason that they are raising the prices. I am not trying to say that it isn't excessive but what they do is try an recoup the loss they see on taxes by raising the price at the pump. So really the tax payer is stilling paying for whatever programs that the legislators like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama wanted to get the oil companies to pay for to begin with.
Jess B. wrote on Mar 27, 2008 3:30 PM:
I am very disappointed in the 'World News' for publishing this piece and furthering racial, ethnic, and religious divides in this country and in this town. Shame on you!
This piece is poorly written and poorly edited. If you are trying to get readers at least publish an article that has been well written and that has some sources sited.
This author's ideas of Islam are only coming from "radical Islam" and just as there are "radical Christians" that believe some "crazy" things, there are "radicals" in Islam as well. Lets not lump them all together in one basket, I know that not all Christians want to be lumped into one basket either.
This piece is poorly written and poorly edited. If you are trying to get readers at least publish an article that has been well written and that has some sources sited.
This author's ideas of Islam are only coming from "radical Islam" and just as there are "radical Christians" that believe some "crazy" things, there are "radicals" in Islam as well. Lets not lump them all together in one basket, I know that not all Christians want to be lumped into one basket either.
Janice wrote on Mar 27, 2008 3:09 PM:
Crude Designs by Greg Muttitt states, " Iraq has the third largest oil reserves on the planet – accounting for 10% of the world total. Iraq is also reckoned to have the world’s largest unexplored potential, primarily in the Western Desert. On top of its 115 billion barrels of proven reserves, Iraq is estimated to have between 100 and 200 billion barrels of further possible (as yet undiscovered) reserves. Furthermore, not only are Iraqi and Gulf reserves huge, they are mostly onshore, in favourable reservoir structures, and extractable at extremely low cost."
In a speech to the Institute of Petroleum in London in 1999, Dick Cheney, then CEO of oil services company Halliburton, commented:
“By 2010 we will need on the order of an additional fifty million barrels a day. So where is the oil going to come from? ... While many regions of the world offer great oil opportunities, the Middle East with two thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies.”(5)
Steve, I guess we are over there spreading democracy....yea right!
In a speech to the Institute of Petroleum in London in 1999, Dick Cheney, then CEO of oil services company Halliburton, commented:
“By 2010 we will need on the order of an additional fifty million barrels a day. So where is the oil going to come from? ... While many regions of the world offer great oil opportunities, the Middle East with two thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies.”(5)
Steve, I guess we are over there spreading democracy....yea right!
STEVE wrote on Mar 27, 2008 1:55 PM:
Janice, do me a favor and do some research on the word 'occupation'. Then do research on where the US imports oil from. Ill give you a clue; its NOT Iraq. :)
The gas prices are a totally different situation. The oil companies Exxon, Shell, ETC. are driving up the prices and making a FAT wallet. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WAR!!!!!! A friend I went to school works for one of those companies thats where i get my FACTS!
I reccomend not just Janice but everyone to post only FACTS to backup your openion. The whole world would be a better place.
The gas prices are a totally different situation. The oil companies Exxon, Shell, ETC. are driving up the prices and making a FAT wallet. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WAR!!!!!! A friend I went to school works for one of those companies thats where i get my FACTS!
I reccomend not just Janice but everyone to post only FACTS to backup your openion. The whole world would be a better place.
Janice wrote on Mar 27, 2008 1:30 PM:
Young - Yes, I do think about the lives lost for oil and the profits the oil companies are raking in. Record profits - in the history of all profits - Exxon. That's why I drive a hybrid and get 47 miles to the gallon. I would drive an electric car if one were on the market. I wouldn't buy a drop of oil if I could get away with it.
Janice wrote on Mar 27, 2008 1:26 PM:
Young - they hate us - we hate them - they kill us - we kill them...my question is how do we stop this? Will you be satisfied when we kill them all? How many do we have to kill? Will that be enough? Will we be safe then?
How about looking at why they hate us and our policies and our history of meddling in the mid-east? Also, our dependence on oil keeps us hooked in the region. Just reducing our consumption of oil might make us more safe. I believe that after 9/11 we could have gone after Bin Laden and those responsible with special forces and troops in Afghanistan and the Pakistan border and taken these people out but, we didn't and I am concerned and angry that our good people are dying in an occupation of Iraq. An invasion that was poorly planned and mismanaged with no exit strategy. We've spent over 500 billion dollars - this occupation is breaking this country.
How about looking at why they hate us and our policies and our history of meddling in the mid-east? Also, our dependence on oil keeps us hooked in the region. Just reducing our consumption of oil might make us more safe. I believe that after 9/11 we could have gone after Bin Laden and those responsible with special forces and troops in Afghanistan and the Pakistan border and taken these people out but, we didn't and I am concerned and angry that our good people are dying in an occupation of Iraq. An invasion that was poorly planned and mismanaged with no exit strategy. We've spent over 500 billion dollars - this occupation is breaking this country.
Young Voter wrote on Mar 27, 2008 11:03 AM:
You know Janice I can't help but wonder do you worry about the war being for oil when you go and fill up your car at the pump?????????
Young Voter wrote on Mar 27, 2008 10:59 AM:
Janice you didn't read what I wrote! I said that the terrorist want us dead! Can you deny that? You know you can support whoever you want for president and no one will come into your house in the middle of the night and take away your family members and torture and kill them. How many people were killed in the fight for our America's freedom? I doubt the true number will ever be known.
CC wrote on Mar 27, 2008 9:39 AM:
Thank you Ron Van Vlack for your service to American. Just wondering how many bloggers out there have read Sen. Obama's book “Dreams From My Father" In the book Sen.Obama repeatedly refers to a friend and adviser “Frank", while he was growing up in Hawaii. Obama's friend has been identified as Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the old Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA. Obama’s communist connection adds to mounting public concern about a candidate who has come out of virtually nowhere, with a brief U.S. Senate legislative record, to become the Democratic Party frontrunner for the U.S. presidency.”
Janice wrote on Mar 27, 2008 9:34 AM:
Young Voter says, "Steve Thank you for your service! You are absolutely right they want us dead."
4,000 Americans dead and over 600,000 Iraq people dead. Why didn't Bush go after Bin Laden in Afghanistan where he was hiding? Why did he take the attention off Afghanistan where Al Qaeda was? Why didn't he take action when he knew the terriorists were going to attack the US? The facts can't be ignored. Iraq had the oil Bush and his cronies wanted and we are dying so they can make huge profits. It's criminal.
4,000 Americans dead and over 600,000 Iraq people dead. Why didn't Bush go after Bin Laden in Afghanistan where he was hiding? Why did he take the attention off Afghanistan where Al Qaeda was? Why didn't he take action when he knew the terriorists were going to attack the US? The facts can't be ignored. Iraq had the oil Bush and his cronies wanted and we are dying so they can make huge profits. It's criminal.
Young Voter wrote on Mar 27, 2008 8:53 AM:
Steve Thank you for your service! You are absolutely right they want us dead! They don't care about oil,the only thing those terrorist want is as many americans dead as possible because that is their belief.The sad thing is that they will kill their own people and themselves to do it.
steve wrote on Mar 27, 2008 2:34 AM:
First I appreciate the article.
Most of the decisions that dissapoint us are made by govenors and senators. The President has the power to veto but is rare. So why veto childerns helthcare? Wer'e in a Recession. If there was governement healthcare WE WOULD BE PAYING FOR IT IN TAXES! Im not saying the government spends money wisely but have you gone to Salem?? In order to make "Change" then do it at the State level. Gov. Kulengoski makes a bad decesion and what do you do? Blame Bush. Take a close look at what Gov. Kulengoski, Wyden and like are up to.
As An Iraqi Freedom VET it eats me ALIVE to hear ANYONE say we went to war for oil. DID NOT HAPPEN. Get your facts straight. We went to Iraq to end terrorism. Terrorism started in Iraq and Afganistan. That is why we are there. The Iraqi Insurgants wanted me dead when I was there along with every other American.
Do yourselves and Oregon a favor. Write your govenor and senators and turn this State RED!
Most of the decisions that dissapoint us are made by govenors and senators. The President has the power to veto but is rare. So why veto childerns helthcare? Wer'e in a Recession. If there was governement healthcare WE WOULD BE PAYING FOR IT IN TAXES! Im not saying the government spends money wisely but have you gone to Salem?? In order to make "Change" then do it at the State level. Gov. Kulengoski makes a bad decesion and what do you do? Blame Bush. Take a close look at what Gov. Kulengoski, Wyden and like are up to.
As An Iraqi Freedom VET it eats me ALIVE to hear ANYONE say we went to war for oil. DID NOT HAPPEN. Get your facts straight. We went to Iraq to end terrorism. Terrorism started in Iraq and Afganistan. That is why we are there. The Iraqi Insurgants wanted me dead when I was there along with every other American.
Do yourselves and Oregon a favor. Write your govenor and senators and turn this State RED!
Rick James wrote on Mar 25, 2008 4:17 PM:
That is the point I am trying to get across. All politicians are crooks and liars so you may as well vote for the guy who is inspiring and positive about things rather than the others who push fear. Plus Clinton is one of the most evil conspiring people ever to run for president, she doesn't give a damn about anything except making history as a woman running for president. You know she would have dumped Bill years ago if she didn't need him to advance her political career. And I do like to think I am still young Concerned Citizen.
CB wrote on Mar 25, 2008 3:07 PM:
I am so glad that you all think you know who is telling the truth and who isn't. Do any politicians tell the truth ??? I have lived to long and seen to much to believe any of them. I have always voted and always been disappointed.
Sean wrote on Mar 25, 2008 2:26 PM:
Thanks Mr James. I wonder why when we tell a story in a different way from what actually happened, it is Called a Lie, an Untruth, A Fibb. When Hillary Clinton Does it she says she mis-spoke. Im just waiting for someone in the audience to say, " Hey you didnt Mis-Speak, YOU LIED" I wonder where she got that from? Hmmmm? "I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN". Seem to run in the family. We already had Bush as a dishonest president who mis-speaks. do we really need another one?
Concerned citizen wrote on Mar 25, 2008 1:44 PM:
yep, thats about what I am saying RICK !!!!!
And yep, thats about what I think, there is no one running for president that I am excited to vote for.
And if you are, why ? Because Obamas speech writers are one heck of a good speech writing team and Obama is one heck of a speech giver..give me a break, I hope this means you are young, if you aren't, you haven't learned much.
And yep, thats about what I think, there is no one running for president that I am excited to vote for.
And if you are, why ? Because Obamas speech writers are one heck of a good speech writing team and Obama is one heck of a speech giver..give me a break, I hope this means you are young, if you aren't, you haven't learned much.
Rick James wrote on Mar 25, 2008 12:51 PM:
So "Concerned Citizen" what you are saying is it doesn't matter who you vote for and all the candidates are the same with the only difference being who they have writing their speeches? I must say if that is the case everyone should vote for Obama. From what I have seen he must have one hell of a speech writing team and has the presentation skills to blow everyone else away. Both McCain and Clinton couldn't give an inspiring speech to save their lives no matter who they had writing them. Those two idiots come off as bumbling fools when it comes to public speeking. Clinton with her obnoxious screeching voice reminds me of my mom yelling at me when I was a kid to clean my room and it makes me cringe everytime she opens her mouth.
Janice wrote on Mar 25, 2008 10:42 AM:
“When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” Sinclair Lewis
Young Voter wrote on Mar 25, 2008 9:37 AM:
I wonder what my great grandfather who served in WWII would have made of that sentiment? Or my great-great grandfather who gave his life in WW1? My grandfather served three tours in vietnam and all but 1 of his seven brothers served in a branch of our military and 3 of them retired out of the service including my grandfather. I wonder what they would make of that sentiment. Personally I could care less if someone has a problem with what is says on our money because I can gaurantee you that while they are protesting what it says they are using it to pay for their excessive litigation and supposed infringement of their "civil rights".
Concerned citizen wrote on Mar 25, 2008 9:36 AM:
I am so amazed at all the people that are in love with Obama because of all he says in his speeches. Do they even know that he doesn't write them himself, his speechwriters do and they write what the people want to hear.
Get real, how many politicians have ever followed through on what they say in their speeches when they do get elected.
Remember, WORDS ARE CHEAP , even if the speechwriters get paid good, the words are just empty, without any following through on them.
Get real, how many politicians have ever followed through on what they say in their speeches when they do get elected.
Remember, WORDS ARE CHEAP , even if the speechwriters get paid good, the words are just empty, without any following through on them.
Thomas wrote on Mar 24, 2008 5:41 PM:
"Yeah Yeah I know we put "In God We Trust" on our currency."
That apparent violation of the First Amendment is not such because the Supreme Court has ruled it to be meaningless ......... no kidding!
They haven't ruled upon "Under God" in the Pledge yet, but rest assured whenever they do it will be the same reasoning; i.e. it means nothing.
That apparent violation of the First Amendment is not such because the Supreme Court has ruled it to be meaningless ......... no kidding!
They haven't ruled upon "Under God" in the Pledge yet, but rest assured whenever they do it will be the same reasoning; i.e. it means nothing.
Janice wrote on Mar 24, 2008 4:18 PM:
Most Americans can find a middle ground of reasonable agreement. My political leanings were always moderate Republican but, when the Republican party was taken over by neo-cons and religious fanatics I had enough. When people like Rush Limbaugh and others began their constant attacks on "liberals" and the systematic demonizing of helping those in need, or anyone who didn't agree with their agenda -it drove me away. I wanted to distance myself from the hateful divisive talk coming from the right-wing commentators like Rush and Fox News. When we stop for a moment and really listen to what the other person is saying often we find that we aren't that far apart. If we stop allowing the media to divide us we can make change happen in this country.
Young Voter wrote on Mar 24, 2008 2:38 PM:
I think my point was misunderstood. I do not deny that the Bush administration should have done something. I am not saying that the Clinton administration is all at fault. Maybe if he had spent a little less time skirt chasing and a little more time focusing on his job he could have made smarter choices for our country.
You know I have really enjoyed reading over everyone's points here and some of the postings got me thinking a little harder about this election and here is what I came up with:
1. No a person doesn't have to salute the flag, or say the pledge of alliegence, or wear a pin honoring our troops. But if they don't what is that teaching our children about what it means to be American? What is that saying to all of our soliders and veterans and their families?
2. A person should not be weighed or evaulated on their religious beliefs but they almost always are.
3.It is okay if you don't support the war, but understand that their are still a whole lot of families that have lost a loved one or have a loved one over there and do not disregard their sacrifices.
4. I never want to be one of those uber political types that never have anything positive to say about anyone and all they remember are the things someone did wrong. So I will say this hopefully the next four years will bring change and that change will be for the better good of America as a whole and not see the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.
You know I have really enjoyed reading over everyone's points here and some of the postings got me thinking a little harder about this election and here is what I came up with:
1. No a person doesn't have to salute the flag, or say the pledge of alliegence, or wear a pin honoring our troops. But if they don't what is that teaching our children about what it means to be American? What is that saying to all of our soliders and veterans and their families?
2. A person should not be weighed or evaulated on their religious beliefs but they almost always are.
3.It is okay if you don't support the war, but understand that their are still a whole lot of families that have lost a loved one or have a loved one over there and do not disregard their sacrifices.
4. I never want to be one of those uber political types that never have anything positive to say about anyone and all they remember are the things someone did wrong. So I will say this hopefully the next four years will bring change and that change will be for the better good of America as a whole and not see the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.
Janice wrote on Mar 24, 2008 12:09 PM:
CC - you are right! We have a long history of criminal leaders in this country. It is time for a change and we can use our vote to make that happen.
CC wrote on Mar 24, 2008 11:22 AM:
Janice-Despite Sandy Berger’s best attempts to destroy the evidence, we now know the Clinton administration never took al Qaeda seriously and passed on several opportunities to kill or take custody of Osama bin Laden for fear of paying a political price (much like the one President Bush is paying now).
Janice wrote on Mar 23, 2008 8:54 PM:
Young Gen - You are right is saying that we have had many years of failed policies that have weakened our national security. Our dependence on oil and the corporate greed that has sold our security for the profits of a few is criminal. However, George W Bush was president when the attacks of 9/11 occurred and he, Condolezza Rice and other top officials of his administration received documented warnings from George Tenet, director of the CIA of the Bin Laden air attacks. Bush, Cheney, Rice, and Rumsfield did nothing! Why? They were the ones in charge on 9/11 not Bill Clinton. They had the warnings and did NOTHING and a Republican lead Congress and Senate did nothing for 6 years to assess why and what happened. Yet, Bill Clinton gets all the blame. This doesn't make sense. He wasn't in office when 9/11 occurred - he didn't have the authority to order any counter measures. Why didn't Bush? Did he need a reason to ramp up fear in the American people for a war in Iraq that had been in the planning prior to 9/11? Maybe we are dying so Bush and the greedy corporations can rake in the dough???
Janice wrote on Mar 23, 2008 6:44 PM:
I agree with Sean. We need to get serious about electing a strong candidate for the office president. The corporate media would like us to get bogged down with the petty stuff like bickering over religion or if a candidate is "black enough" or "too black" or if Hilary is showing too much cleavage. The fact is the democrats have an excellent well educated man capable of bridging all generations, races and genders - Barack Obama. He has an insurmountable lead and will be the Democratic nominee. He will bring the change that is absolutely necessary to restore this country and bring our troops home. The policies of the past are dead and Obama represents real change for our future.
Sean wrote on Mar 22, 2008 7:42 PM:
We have has so called Christians running this country from the get go, I personally do not care if the president is a Christian, a buddist, or any other faith. I wouldnt even mind if he was an evolutionist. As long as the person gets the job done that needs to be done. There is supposed to be a seperation of Church and State in this country. Yeah Yeah I know we put "In God We Trust" on our currency. But the American Dollor is headed the wway of the pesso these days. We need to Get a person in the White House who will mend the riffs that have been created over the past 20 years in order to make the American dollar strong again. We need to Stopp shipping Jobs over seas and make jobs for Americans here. We need to stop Blowing up Billions of Dollars in a Foriegn country and start spending them on our Roads, Bridges, and Schools. We need to take care of America first before we attempt to police the world. So wether the Man or Woman is anyrace at all, and any religon at all. This is what they must be willing to do.
Rick James wrote on Mar 21, 2008 12:53 PM:
I hate it when I spend time writing responses and they are not posted. Especially when there is no reason why they shouldn't be. So much for free speech and freedom of expression when everything has to pass through an editor.
Youn Voter wrote on Mar 20, 2008 5:02 PM:
Janice this is just a question but are you putting the entire blame of the 9/11 attacks onto the W Bush administration? I am not saying that they don't hold some responsibility but I really am sick of hearing about how the Bush administration didn't do this or it didn't do that when the reality is that this attack wasn't just planned in the 9 months that George W had been in office. It was an attack YEARS in planning and the prior administrations all the way back to Regan should bear responsiblity. As for the things he hasn't done since then you have some valid points, you are right wearing a pin doesn't make a person any better, but again if you are campaigning for the job of COMMANDER IN CHEIF of our armed forces than you should show the members of our military both active and retired the respect that they deserve! That goes for every candidate.
CC wrote on Mar 20, 2008 11:37 AM:
To "Just an Observer" you need to observe why people from all over the world are literally dying to come to America. Do you believe that choice is not an option?
Under socialist theory the individual's needs are determined and satisfied collectively. Dissent and venturing out on one's own are not options. I personally would hate to have the government tell me what I could and could not have!
Under socialist theory the individual's needs are determined and satisfied collectively. Dissent and venturing out on one's own are not options. I personally would hate to have the government tell me what I could and could not have!
Janice wrote on Mar 19, 2008 5:28 PM:
When I attended the Fun Festival Parade right here in Coos Bay I was surprised to see a MAJORITY of the crowd remain seated when the flag passed by. I stood and placed my hand over my heart. Most of the men didn't remove their hats. In fact, most people where I was standing didn't even acknowledge the flag. I don't think people know or have been taught the proper protocol when the American flag is presented at events such as parades etc.
Just An Observer wrote on Mar 19, 2008 4:52 PM:
Socialism looks pretty successful for the Scandinavian countries and others in Europe. It's not a bad thing to be Socialist! There's a difference between the successful democratically governed Socialist-run societies and the now-defunct "dictatorship of the proletariat" Communist ones. Can the rightwingnuts see the difference? Of course not.
The rightwingnuts refuse to face the fact that laissez faire capitalism died in October 1929. We practice mixed economic policies and wind up with the worst of both worlds. Since classic capitalism is dead and the mixed economy model is failing, why not go Socialist? The success of other nations with high standards of living shows it works.
Then again the average European is better educated than the average American, so they do have a higher grade of worker to use in their government bureaucracy. Our elected officials can't even deal with a sliding house in a timely fashion...LOL!
The rightwingnuts refuse to face the fact that laissez faire capitalism died in October 1929. We practice mixed economic policies and wind up with the worst of both worlds. Since classic capitalism is dead and the mixed economy model is failing, why not go Socialist? The success of other nations with high standards of living shows it works.
Then again the average European is better educated than the average American, so they do have a higher grade of worker to use in their government bureaucracy. Our elected officials can't even deal with a sliding house in a timely fashion...LOL!
Janice wrote on Mar 19, 2008 1:56 PM:
"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
A plastic flag pin will not make one anymore patriotic than a plastic fish on the back of one's car will make them a Christian.
A plastic flag pin will not make one anymore patriotic than a plastic fish on the back of one's car will make them a Christian.
CC wrote on Mar 19, 2008 12:53 PM:
Janice, The administration that you are condemning so badly is NOT on the ticket anymore. I could go on and on about how the out going President had to clean up after President Clinton, but I won't. I will say however, that if Senator Obama was not influenced by his Islamic upbringing, why does the Pastor that lead him to Christianity have the same hateful ideals of Islam?
AMERICA, LOVE IT, OR LEAVE IT!!!
AMERICA, LOVE IT, OR LEAVE IT!!!
Jim wrote on Mar 19, 2008 10:51 AM:
I am looking at all the candidates. THe ONLY thing that scares me about Obama is how far left he is. Socialism has proven to be a failed way of governing a country. I would hope he comes more to center than he has been historically. I do listen to what he has said and I do not dislike the man. Obama has an appeal that is verifiable. Whether or not he can bring himself more to center has yet to be seen.
Janice wrote on Mar 19, 2008 10:39 AM:
I wonder if:
George W Bush was wearing a flag pin when he lied this country into an illegal war?
or, when the Bush administration "outed" a covert CIA operative (an act of treason) and then pardoned the guilty Scooter Libby?
or if George W, Dick Cheney and Condolezza Rice were wearing their flag pins when they ignored the warnings of the CIA Director, George Tenet and J. Cofer Black that attacks by Bin Laden were imminent. Were they wearing their pins when they read Mr. Tenet's paper "Bin Laden threats are Real?"
Was George Bush wearing his pin when he broke the FISA law and the Constitution and spied on Americans?
Was George Bush wearing his flag pin when he was holding hands with Saudi Crown Prince Abdulla?
Was George Bush wearing his flag pin when he threated to veto healthcare for children?
Was Donald Rumsfield wearing his flag pin when he authorized the illegal torture and murder of Iraqi prisoners?
Was George Bush wearing his flag pin when he left the people in New Orleans to suffer after Katrina?
Was he wearing his flag pin when he signed secret agreements to form the North American Union?
or when he allow unregulated Mexican trucks to operate in the US? ....or, when he refused to enforce the immigration laws that are currently on the books?
The list goes on and on.....are you wearing your flag pin everyday?
George W Bush was wearing a flag pin when he lied this country into an illegal war?
or, when the Bush administration "outed" a covert CIA operative (an act of treason) and then pardoned the guilty Scooter Libby?
or if George W, Dick Cheney and Condolezza Rice were wearing their flag pins when they ignored the warnings of the CIA Director, George Tenet and J. Cofer Black that attacks by Bin Laden were imminent. Were they wearing their pins when they read Mr. Tenet's paper "Bin Laden threats are Real?"
Was George Bush wearing his pin when he broke the FISA law and the Constitution and spied on Americans?
Was George Bush wearing his flag pin when he was holding hands with Saudi Crown Prince Abdulla?
Was George Bush wearing his flag pin when he threated to veto healthcare for children?
Was Donald Rumsfield wearing his flag pin when he authorized the illegal torture and murder of Iraqi prisoners?
Was George Bush wearing his flag pin when he left the people in New Orleans to suffer after Katrina?
Was he wearing his flag pin when he signed secret agreements to form the North American Union?
or when he allow unregulated Mexican trucks to operate in the US? ....or, when he refused to enforce the immigration laws that are currently on the books?
The list goes on and on.....are you wearing your flag pin everyday?
really? wrote on Mar 19, 2008 9:08 AM:
Jim - As you say, putting your hand over your heart during the national anthem is a custom or protocol; it is not a law. Nor is a single instance of it a measure of a man's worth or the ideas which he puts forth to solve the nation's problems. I don't think anyone should be shallow enough to judge a man by one picture, by bogus claims of his religious views, and then not listen to his words or read his exemplary resume or ideas for the future.
Go to ALL of the candidate's websites and look at their positions.
Also, thank you for your service.
Go to ALL of the candidate's websites and look at their positions.
Also, thank you for your service.
Jim wrote on Mar 18, 2008 8:42 PM:
Oh..and Really? I know what I saw....his not saluting the flag during the playing of the national anthem. Required by law? no. Not doing it reveals something of the man.
...and what have I done for my community/country? 20 years of military service. so can your rhetoric.
...and what have I done for my community/country? 20 years of military service. so can your rhetoric.
Janice W wrote on Mar 18, 2008 5:38 PM:
You can watch Senator Obama's speech, "A More Perfect Union." He addresses racial issues and the challenges our country is facing and the media among other important things.
http://www.barackobama.com/2008/03/18/remarks_of_senator_barack_obam_53.php
It is sad that some people choose to focus on the minutiae while our great country faces possible economic collapse, people are losing their homes, sick Americans can't get healthcare, jobs are being shipped to foreign countries and we have troops stuck in a quagmire in Iraq.
We need to get serious and look at a candidate's record to determine how they stand and their ability to inspire the American people in the tough times ahead. A great deal of damage has been done by this administration and we need someone who can lead us out of this mess and get America back on track. I believe Senator Barack Obama has the temperament and judgement to lead this country.
http://www.barackobama.com/2008/03/18/remarks_of_senator_barack_obam_53.php
It is sad that some people choose to focus on the minutiae while our great country faces possible economic collapse, people are losing their homes, sick Americans can't get healthcare, jobs are being shipped to foreign countries and we have troops stuck in a quagmire in Iraq.
We need to get serious and look at a candidate's record to determine how they stand and their ability to inspire the American people in the tough times ahead. A great deal of damage has been done by this administration and we need someone who can lead us out of this mess and get America back on track. I believe Senator Barack Obama has the temperament and judgement to lead this country.
CB wrote on Mar 18, 2008 4:05 PM:
OK, OK, all you people that "KNOW" that Obama is NOT a Muslim, that is great, but I wonder HOW you know this for certain, because he told us that. Lots of people in politics lie, right, but evidently NOT Obama, because ???? why ??? He might be or not be a Muslim, BUT, he certainly goes to a church that HAD a minister (who he has been close to, and had a close relationship with, according to him) that preached how bad we white people are , and how bad America is, and thinks every bad thing that has happened in America is caused by the white people that inhabit America, and the black people have been given drugs, etc. so that we can put them in prisons (that cost us millions of dollars to keep there) and on and on. Why would someone who has been listening to this preacher for so long, want to be president of such bad people.???? So he could pay us back for all the bad things we have done to the black people. If those black people would think about what is happening in Africa now, they should be praising God that someone brought their ancestors over here (and a lot of the people that brought them over here, were other black people) and that they are here now, because of those ancestors who were brought here, for whatever reason. It is saving them from machete weilding killers and starvation, sickness, etc. etc. that is going on in Africa now. I would say to all the black people that think it is so bad here, they are welcome to go back to Africa, I bet someone would buy them a ticket even. I wonder if Obamas preacher friend would leave this country if he had the chance, I bet not....
Most people would not continue going to a church and listening to so much hate when they could try the church down the street and hear a preacher actually preaching love for one another and love of his country. No country is perfect but I bet this country is so much better than any other one in the whole world, and I personally am offended by all the hate for this country that Obamas preacher is shown to feel all over TV this past week.
Most people would not continue going to a church and listening to so much hate when they could try the church down the street and hear a preacher actually preaching love for one another and love of his country. No country is perfect but I bet this country is so much better than any other one in the whole world, and I personally am offended by all the hate for this country that Obamas preacher is shown to feel all over TV this past week.
Reeally? wrote on Mar 18, 2008 3:32 PM:
Becki, I admire that you are defending your Dad. There are facts that are contrary to your post, however:
Senator Obama also has relatives who have served proudly in the US Armed Forces.
Wearing a flag pin doesn't make you more of a patriot than a person who devoted much of his life to studies of, teaching the US Consitution. He has also taken the oath of office many times (yes, on a bible) to defend the laws of our nation (including the constitution).
Not wearing a flag pin does not make you guilty of treason. Wearing a flag pin does not necessarily mean you really are a patriot.
He has not turned his back on the flag during the pledge of allegiance. That is another internet myth.
Senator Obama also has relatives who have served proudly in the US Armed Forces.
Wearing a flag pin doesn't make you more of a patriot than a person who devoted much of his life to studies of, teaching the US Consitution. He has also taken the oath of office many times (yes, on a bible) to defend the laws of our nation (including the constitution).
Not wearing a flag pin does not make you guilty of treason. Wearing a flag pin does not necessarily mean you really are a patriot.
He has not turned his back on the flag during the pledge of allegiance. That is another internet myth.
Becki Watson wrote on Mar 18, 2008 2:11 PM:
I will say upfront that I am very grateful for the stand that my dad [Mr. Van Vlack] has taken. We were taught at a very early age to respect God and our great nation. I am proud of the fact that many of my family members have served in the armed forces.
Obama made the decision to not wear the American flag pen and to turn his back when the pledge of allegiance is recited. His actions are a slap in the face to those men and women who have fought and died so that we have the freedom to voice our opinion. What he is doing is treason, plain and simple.
How can we even think to vote for someone who selfish actions and beliefs come before his loyalty and love for his country.
Obama made the decision to not wear the American flag pen and to turn his back when the pledge of allegiance is recited. His actions are a slap in the face to those men and women who have fought and died so that we have the freedom to voice our opinion. What he is doing is treason, plain and simple.
How can we even think to vote for someone who selfish actions and beliefs come before his loyalty and love for his country.
Really? wrote on Mar 18, 2008 1:44 PM:
LC and Jim - You choose to live in the muck of internet rumors, sleeze and lies. If you choose gossip and propoganda over the reality of the life works of an individual and the truth of his words, so be it.
The realities are:
Obama is a man who graduated from Harvard with a degree in political science and a specialty in international relations.
He rolled up his sleeves and worked on the streets of Chicago to find housing for diplaced workers.
He taught constitutional law at University of Chicago for 10 years.
He introduced over 800 bills in the Illinois state legislature in support of police, constitutional rights, healthcare, and more.
He has spent 3 years in the U.S. Senate and contributed to significant ethics reform and nuclear proliferation legislation.
His actions matter. His words matter.
What have you done for your community?
Many who will not or cannot positively contribute to society choose to live their lives slinging mud anonymously in the blogs of their online newspaper in the pretense of enlightening others.
Oh, well.
The realities are:
Obama is a man who graduated from Harvard with a degree in political science and a specialty in international relations.
He rolled up his sleeves and worked on the streets of Chicago to find housing for diplaced workers.
He taught constitutional law at University of Chicago for 10 years.
He introduced over 800 bills in the Illinois state legislature in support of police, constitutional rights, healthcare, and more.
He has spent 3 years in the U.S. Senate and contributed to significant ethics reform and nuclear proliferation legislation.
His actions matter. His words matter.
What have you done for your community?
Many who will not or cannot positively contribute to society choose to live their lives slinging mud anonymously in the blogs of their online newspaper in the pretense of enlightening others.
Oh, well.
LC wrote on Mar 18, 2008 12:45 PM:
For those of you who want more information on Obama - go to You Tube and check out that story (live uncensored video). Obama may have been born in America but where are his family ties. I'm sure homosexuality is not considered acceptable in Muslim religion or few others.
Young Voter wrote on Mar 17, 2008 12:47 PM:
I am in my 20's with a new family and I am looking at my choices for president and they ALL scare me to death!!!! It seems to me that NONE of the candidates are going to be good for this country including Obama. He is saying change, but what is he going to really change for the average american??? Create family - supporting Jobs instead of sending them all oversees?, Help the American family with no insurance take their children to the doctor? Defend our borders from ILLEGALS? Help American buisness owners to sell American made Products? We have been promised that before. As for their religion, as the Commander in Cheif of our armed forces you'd better salute our flag and damn well mean it. You'd better uphold the beliefs this country was founded on and mean it. I guess it doesn't really matter what religion you are but if you are going to represent a whole lot of blue collar, God loving, hard working, average, everyday people than you should have a good grasp on where they come from!!!!!
Jim wrote on Mar 15, 2008 10:24 PM:
Interesting...I post a message with the actual video where Obama did not salute the flag....and it doesnt get posted here....haha...predictable....
Elizabeth wrote on Mar 13, 2008 1:30 PM:
Janice W, thank you for putting some much needed facts in Karen's path to internet rumor land. Hopefully the truth inoculation takes.
Really, thank you for laying out facts as well, for those parroting the Bill O'Rielly talking points about "Secular Progressives" (as though one trait is indicative of the other).
Letters like this prove there will always be some who cannot cease or resist perpetuating the whole Muslim boogeyman notion.
People are smarter than this now.
P.S. LOL Colfax!! ;)
Really, thank you for laying out facts as well, for those parroting the Bill O'Rielly talking points about "Secular Progressives" (as though one trait is indicative of the other).
Letters like this prove there will always be some who cannot cease or resist perpetuating the whole Muslim boogeyman notion.
People are smarter than this now.
P.S. LOL Colfax!! ;)
Thomas wrote on Mar 13, 2008 7:16 AM:
REALLY?, it is really troubling how ignorant many of our fellow citizens are, even those as obviously intelligent as Mr Van Vlack. Can we rightly lay much of the blame for that on the sorry state of our news media?
A letter to the editor such as this one should have been fact-checked and rejected for its obvious errors, but instead is allowed to be printed and influence others. I'm not certain, but would bet the farm that most of what is alleged in it comes from some far right-wing talking points source, and is pure political propaganda ........ that unfortunately works.
A letter to the editor such as this one should have been fact-checked and rejected for its obvious errors, but instead is allowed to be printed and influence others. I'm not certain, but would bet the farm that most of what is alleged in it comes from some far right-wing talking points source, and is pure political propaganda ........ that unfortunately works.
really? wrote on Mar 12, 2008 10:28 AM:
Ron - A secret Muslim? Really? Great disguise.
Karen - That is an easily disproven internet rumor (thank you, Janice W). You should know better.
Samuel - This country was indeed founded by Christians, as well as secular humanists (such as Unitarians) like Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, and many others with differing concepts of "God". Some interesting sites to visit and find quotes of the founding fathers are:
http://skeptically.org/thinkersonreligion/id9.html
http://www.sullivan-county.com/nf0/dispatch/fathers_quote2.htm
among those quotes.....
"Question with boldness even the existence of a god." - Thomas Jefferson (letter to Peter Carr, 10 August 1787)
Every man "ought to be protected in worshipping the Deity according to the dictates of his own conscience." - George Washington (Letter to the United Baptist Churches in Virginia in May, 1789)
"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of... Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all."- Thomas Paine (The Age of Reason, 1794-1795.)
"The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretence, infringed.'' - James Madison (Original wording of the First Amendment; Annals of Congress 434 (June 8, 1789).)
As you can see, quite a variety of beliefs were held. People should consider these quotes of the founding fathers when voting, also.
Karen - That is an easily disproven internet rumor (thank you, Janice W). You should know better.
Samuel - This country was indeed founded by Christians, as well as secular humanists (such as Unitarians) like Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, and many others with differing concepts of "God". Some interesting sites to visit and find quotes of the founding fathers are:
http://skeptically.org/thinkersonreligion/id9.html
http://www.sullivan-county.com/nf0/dispatch/fathers_quote2.htm
among those quotes.....
"Question with boldness even the existence of a god." - Thomas Jefferson (letter to Peter Carr, 10 August 1787)
Every man "ought to be protected in worshipping the Deity according to the dictates of his own conscience." - George Washington (Letter to the United Baptist Churches in Virginia in May, 1789)
"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of... Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all."- Thomas Paine (The Age of Reason, 1794-1795.)
"The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretence, infringed.'' - James Madison (Original wording of the First Amendment; Annals of Congress 434 (June 8, 1789).)
As you can see, quite a variety of beliefs were held. People should consider these quotes of the founding fathers when voting, also.
Janice W wrote on Mar 12, 2008 8:37 AM:
Karen, I would suggest that you view a video of Senator Obama leading the pledge on this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svo9mutE6TM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svo9mutE6TM
Samuel wrote on Mar 11, 2008 9:55 PM:
I can say that I agree with parts of the comments left. I believe that Karen hits the nail right on the head though Because if you are going to be the President, you need to have your loyalies in the right place. Since we are there in the middle east, we should not just pull out with no plan to secure the area in mind. That runs counter to all military protocol and the last thing that we as a country want to do is send a strong message to the enemy that we are giving up. We need to eventually get out but not till the job is finished. One thing that all of us must realize is that Nov is still a ways away and that many peoples opinions change before the time comes to cast the deciding ballot. I believe that many in this election are going to be writting in their choice if anything because if you look at the nations opinions before all of the candidates that dropped out, we were pretty split in many different directions. I believe the reason that Obama is getting the support that he is getting right now is because many are tired of the lies that GW Bush told to us and they will vote for anybody that talks about change. For what it is worth, the only thing that is going to change is the Butt that sits in the chair in the Oval Office. Every election we usually vote for one party to take the White House and the oposing party to take the House and the Senate. yes, we want all of them to work together, but the reality of it is they will not and it will be the business as usual norm that we are all watching today. Our country was founded by Christians and I think that should considered when voting. Traditions should never be axed or pushed aside for the purpose of acceptance.
Colfax wrote on Mar 11, 2008 9:40 PM:
Muslims can’t be all bad. I just saw one holding hands and dancing with the President the other day on TV.
Thomas wrote on Mar 11, 2008 8:12 PM:
Mr Van Vlack, minor children born into Islamic families are not under any religious obligation until they reach the age of maturity, at which time they become entirely independent of the beliefs of their parents. It is then that they decide which religious path to follow, be that Islam or any other.
Mr Obama was never a Muslim at any time. He chose to be a Christian as an adult, and appears to take the teachings of Jesus much more to heart than our current President, so you can rest easy.
Mr Obama was never a Muslim at any time. He chose to be a Christian as an adult, and appears to take the teachings of Jesus much more to heart than our current President, so you can rest easy.
karen wrote on Mar 11, 2008 3:49 PM:
Obama will NOT say the pledge of Allegiance as he does not believe in it-nor will he place his hand over his heart in front of our flag. Ask a Vet or a current military person if they want him leading the greatest country on the Earth-maybe some of you should read the Koran too-also the Mulims have said that they will take down the US and what better way than to have a Muslim for President?
Janice W wrote on Mar 11, 2008 2:47 PM:
Mr. Van Vlack....your letter is an attempt to smear Barack Obama with the same lies and distortions that his political ememies and the media have been using lately. This will not work. Barack Obama is NOT a muslim. During the Democratic debate in Las Vegas he stated clearly, "Let's make clear what the facts are: I am a Christian. I have been sworn in with a Bible. I pledge allegiance [to the American flag] and lead the pledge of allegiance sometimes in the United States Senate when I'm presiding." Mr Obama is a member of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ and is an actively practising Christian.
Shame on The World for perpetuating smear tactics and low-rent innuendo! I hope you print the truth to balance this attack to be fair.
Shame on The World for perpetuating smear tactics and low-rent innuendo! I hope you print the truth to balance this attack to be fair.
Mike wrote on Mar 11, 2008 1:52 PM:
GRANT: Only to the Secular Progressives does a sep of church and state exists.
Read your history it is clearly stated on many occasions there is no seperation of church and state except in the minds of S and P's.
On that note, Obama has ZERO traits of a Muslim. Muslims for the most part are nearly fanatic in their beliefs. TO secretly be anything else but Muslim violates the teachings of the KORAN and therefore he would be terminated by Muslim clergy in the town square.
Read your history it is clearly stated on many occasions there is no seperation of church and state except in the minds of S and P's.
On that note, Obama has ZERO traits of a Muslim. Muslims for the most part are nearly fanatic in their beliefs. TO secretly be anything else but Muslim violates the teachings of the KORAN and therefore he would be terminated by Muslim clergy in the town square.
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