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TRUCKER wrote on Dec 29, 2008 7:00 PM:
coosbaynative wrote on Feb 26, 2008 9:03 PM:
ann wrote on Feb 24, 2008 7:24 PM:
PRESERVATION for ship NO RULES wrote on Feb 24, 2008 12:48 PM:
GIGGEDYGIGGEDY wrote on Feb 23, 2008 9:03 PM:
KAHUNA wrote on Feb 22, 2008 2:40 PM:
I'm no Ship Builder wrote on Feb 15, 2008 12:56 PM:
JJrunner wrote on Feb 15, 2008 11:50 AM:
Snow white wrote on Feb 15, 2008 10:20 AM:
Yes, there is a meth problem here but it has improved since they changed the way it's purchased. There is probably an even bigger alcohol problem. If there is nothing you can do about it, don't let it overshadow the good things in your life. If it bothers you that much then do something about it, you can find a way. Make a few phone calls to find out what you can do.
Doesn't it fill your imagination wondering about this ship? Did it carry lumber or coal or maybe produce? Was this ship built in North Bend? Was it by Asa Simpson's builders or Kruse and Banks? Who was the captain of this ship? What places did he get to see during his voyages. Was his route between here and San Francisco or did he experience other interesting ports. Who were the crew members? Did they have family that they kissed goodbye when they left Coos Bay? What happened that day that they wrecked? Was it a storm or miscalculation? How many crew members were there and how many survived? Did the captain make it or did he go down with the ship? When did it wreck, was it 1899 or or 1919 or another year? And finally, can it be saved, should it be saved or should it be recorded with its co-ordinates and left to be covered over again for another generation to find it again?
If it doesn't interest you at all thats ok, you don't have to be interested. Realize though, that so many of the rest of us are and would like to know more about it. If your imagination isn't the least sparked by this find then I feel kind of sad for you.
I hope you can change your focus and are able to stop trying to belittle others to make yourself feel better.
CJ wrote on Feb 14, 2008 7:09 PM:
Thomas Paine wrote on Feb 14, 2008 4:48 PM:
In fact, mocking those who are interested in this ship's reappearance is simply a way to try to keep the "ignorant" masses from exploring and discovering; indeed, it's a way to attempt to make these people ignorant!
These are the people that are keeping our intelligent youth away, by keeping any and all decent-paying jobs away. I mean, few of the best and brightest of our high school or college students come back to the Bay Area, save for more than a quick visit, because there is no opportunity in this town! The few who do seem to have trouble finding jobs that suit their skills, as the few jobs that open up are typically service jobs, at or near minimum wage, to keep the folks like Common Sense happy and their prices low. These are the people who are attempting to push away the hard-working, blue-collar individuals that built and maintained the Bay area for a century and a half. Methinks these are the people who stand to gain the most from the absence of intelligence and hard-work, because these are the people who are using the meth addictions to earn cash (the housing prices in this area, and the number of vacant homes, can provide evidence to that fact).
Common Sense wrote on Feb 14, 2008 12:40 PM:
First of all this a community full of ignorce and meth. Every day I read through tons of cases of drug abuse ext. Typical for this town. Now a shipwreck has been revealed and, the same typical non sense of this community is following it.WOW! a "shipwreck" or WOW! a "spaceship". Its the same reaction with this town. Get a life people...
DOPEY wrote on Feb 13, 2008 11:46 PM:
Remember, they have nuclear capability and we don't check incoming shipping containers very closely. The fact that they have not invaded Formosa is not an indicator where they will go someday. If one hides in the brush along the road one will surely get run over. The eventual loser will be the guy who thinks the other guy will play fair. The cliches could go on forever but some of us just will never get it.
Grumpy wrote on Feb 12, 2008 3:49 PM:
Grumpy wrote on Feb 12, 2008 2:32 PM:
To all of you saying this isn't the correct forum...all discussion threads are dynamic entities that go where they go. It does not matter what the original subject matter was. If you aren't interested in off-topic posts don't read them. No one is forcing you.
Coos Bay Citizen wrote on Feb 12, 2008 1:08 PM:
That being said, Thundering Shores is right. There are more appropo forums and articles for discussing politics.
Dopey wrote on Feb 12, 2008 12:24 PM:
THUNDERINGSHORES wrote on Feb 12, 2008 11:01 AM:
snow white wrote on Feb 12, 2008 10:32 AM:
You may see them as old timbers but there are stories in that old wood...hopefully somebody can identify the ship so we can hear them.
Grumpy,
And here I thought Dopey was typical of McCain supporters.
Grumpy wrote on Feb 12, 2008 9:57 AM:
Our grandchildren ARE going to live in a very different world. That is the nature of progress. Are you suggesting that modern day U.S. is some utopia that has to be preserved whole cloth?
I am certainly no Billary or Barack Hussein Obama supporter, but your paranoid rantings are hardly helpful to McCain's cause. A little walk on the beach with some fresh air and sunshine to investigate a piece of local history may help to give YOU some perspective.
shipwrecksarecool wrote on Feb 11, 2008 7:00 PM:
It is worth the trip though!
Walker wrote on Feb 11, 2008 3:19 PM:
Question: Can you continue further south on the paved road past the mill, park and then walk west towards the North Spit and save considerable walking distance? If so, is there a similar parking area as there is across from the mill?
NewsReader wrote on Feb 11, 2008 1:47 PM:
NewsReader wrote on Feb 11, 2008 1:44 PM:
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1202358315167590.xml&coll=7&thispage=2
Has anyone followed this up?
IslandGirl wrote on Feb 11, 2008 10:47 AM:
To answer the questions of those that want to know where it is:
I'm not from the area, but went down with some friends. We took the road out to North Spit and followed it out toward the New Carissa. The shipwreck is about .8 miles south of the New Carissa. (according to the Ranger who gave us a brochure on the area on our way in) It is a rough road, which absolutely requires 4 wheel drive. There were a few ATVs out there, but all vehicles must stay on the road. It would be quite a long walk to get out there, though we did see a few people walking, as well as a couple on horses making their way to the ship. Also, a few nice people let some people that were walking hop into the backs of their pickups.
There were a bunch of trucks parked along the left side of the road and a stream of people heading out to the site, which is how we knew we had found the right spot. You walk out a ways across the sand and come to a sand cliff that drops down about 15 to 20 feet. We were able to slide down the sand cliff and go check out the ship up close and personal. It was high tide, so we had to jump up onto the logs that are washed up inside the ship to avoid the waves that came in every couple minutes. It looks like it is easier to explore during low tide. And getting back up the sand cliff takes a bit of effort.
There's not a whole lot of the ship uncovered, but it's an interesting piece of history and worth seeing for the curious. Got some cool photos to take home. Go while you can before the area is closed off on March 15th for Snowy Plover season.
The park Ranger who greeted us on our way in said that at least 1,000 people had made the trek down there this past weekend!
glassgow gal wrote on Feb 11, 2008 12:11 AM:
DOPEY wrote on Feb 10, 2008 10:37 PM:
You folks need to say a prayer for our military troops who are protecting your right to get all worked up about such a completely ridiculous subject. Lets try to keep this in perspective. Are you going to go out and help dig it up?
Why not spend that time, effort and money helping a human being with something they cannot handle. Get a life. It is great to see people discover a part of history that has been neglected and/or forgotten. It bears repeating that history repeats itself, only the wise don't forget and learn and plan ahead. When you vote for the next President try to visualize a tank rolling down your street, shooting really loud rounds through your neighbors' homes. Check out that aircraft dropping bombs on downtown. What's that? Chinese troops just landed at Bastendorf? Get yourself involved in somethig important, forget that pile of old timbers on Horsfall. Leave it alone, just knowing about it is enough.
Vote for the candidate who will keep the U.S. intact. We do not want to join with Mexico and/or Canada. We need English to be the only language of our country, and preferably the world (try flying internationally on an airline that does not use english-speaking pilots). We need immigrants to become U.S. citizens and participate not only in the benefits of citizenship but also the obligations. It ain't all gravy and if a majority of us don't start believing that then our grandchildren etc will definitely live in a very different world. You're stupid if you trust the other folks in the world. The folks who would take your country and your freedom. The only people who can be trusted is US. The only thing all of those folks will understand will be power. Think, vote. No, I am not talking about Obama or Clinton. Mr. McCain is the only possibility...
Texan-Far-From-Home wrote on Feb 10, 2008 10:17 PM:
SHIPWRECK SHAWN wrote on Feb 10, 2008 5:18 PM:
Coasties Now In Seaside wrote on Feb 9, 2008 9:13 PM:
Is there time to dig it out? There is people in the area who will help, ask and they will come. Put the word out and they will also come from along the other Coastal cities, we too will drive down as well. I agree, our history is so important to each of us and as we grow older, only then do we seem to realize that it seems. Retired Veterns here but love to ride the dunes and gladly give time up to help if it is needed.
Really Curious wrote on Feb 9, 2008 2:37 AM:
Thunderingshore wrote on Feb 8, 2008 10:59 PM:
Unfortunately, it is not the Czarina. The Czarina was a steel hull ship...a good guess though. And, to COOSBAYLASS's comment to you. COOSBAYLASS is NOT correct. The ship on the beach at Horsfall is NOT the Czarina, it is actually the Sujameco that ran aground in March of 1929. I have attached a link for you to read.
Sorry you were mis-informed by COOSBAY LASS.
http://www.wholeshebang.com/WreckofSujameco.htm
true outdoorsman wrote on Feb 8, 2008 9:16 PM:
This is exciting wrote on Feb 8, 2008 8:31 PM:
Ship Name: Advent
-mm/dd/yyyy: 02/16/1913
Description: Wooden Hull- 3 Masted
Lat:
Long:
Last Known Location: Oregon
Vessel Type: Schooner
Nationality: American
O/S File:
Data:
431 tons. 151.5ft x 35ft. Stranded at South Spit, Coos Bay Bar. Crew of 8 rescued. Bound Stanta Rosalia to Coos Bay in ballast. C/O M Eaton. Built in 1901 at North Bend, OR, for Simpson Lumber Co.
C.A. Smith
The 275-foot, 1,878-ton C.A. Smith, built by Kruse and Banks in 1917, was carrying 1.5 million feet of lumber when it ran aground on the North Jetty at Coos Bay on Dec. 16, 1923. Of the 14-member crew, 10 were saved.
Duneit -CRUSH THE PLOVER! wrote on Feb 8, 2008 7:24 PM:
Hey, anyone care for some Plover-on-a-stick? Or maybe just a good old fashioned Plover barbeque/roast over at Briteleafs place. Any takers?
Sandrailer wrote on Feb 8, 2008 7:03 PM:
Its not impossible this is THE ADVENT- this photo shows a very similar construvtion and porthole pattern- Also the location of its demise is suspect...
Joe six pack wrote on Feb 8, 2008 1:07 PM:
DUNE IT wrote on Feb 8, 2008 12:19 PM:
Shipwreck? wrote on Feb 8, 2008 10:43 AM:
shadow wrote on Feb 8, 2008 6:14 AM:
coosbaylass wrote on Feb 8, 2008 2:53 AM:
The CZARINA is the vessel that comes up at Horesfall during the winter, and she was a Steel ship..
m00npenny wrote on Feb 7, 2008 5:01 PM:
sandfoot wrote on Feb 7, 2008 4:16 PM:
it got beached on the spit around 1910
3 shipwrecks on horsefall beach maybe change the name to shipwreck beach :)
OUTDOORSMAN wrote on Feb 7, 2008 1:35 PM:
Marinate Plover breasts in your favorite Italian dressing (we like virgin olive oil and vinegar) for at least 4 hours. Wrap Bacon strip around each Plover breast and secure each with a toothpick. Place hot grill and cook for appoximately 8 to 10 minutes, turning often or until center is pink.
COASTAL PRIDE wrote on Feb 7, 2008 1:33 PM:
sos wrote on Feb 7, 2008 10:15 AM:
http://preserveamerica.noaa.gov/grantrecip05.html
coosbaylass wrote on Feb 7, 2008 8:32 AM:
someonewhomovedbecuaseofnarrowminds wrote on Feb 7, 2008 12:16 AM:
Randy wrote on Feb 6, 2008 10:56 PM:
Oregon gal wrote on Feb 6, 2008 8:38 PM:
not so small wrote on Feb 6, 2008 6:49 PM:
"This season’s wind and waves have shifted a mountain of sand day after day, uncovering the 35-foot-long bow of wooden-hulled vessel."
confused wrote on Feb 6, 2008 6:38 PM:
why not leave the carrisa there too , save tax money, and have more tourists
politics , i don't understand
fubar wrote on Feb 6, 2008 5:15 PM:
Linda wrote on Feb 6, 2008 3:23 PM:
Anti-Plover wrote on Feb 6, 2008 12:11 PM:
Briteleaf wrote on Feb 6, 2008 11:24 AM:
Just because an old piece of junk has been discovered in the sand doesn't alter the fact that it's just an old piece of junk.
elf wrote on Feb 6, 2008 11:12 AM:
The Voice That Cares wrote on Feb 6, 2008 10:58 AM:
PRESERVATION is a must for this ship wrote on Feb 6, 2008 10:50 AM:
PRESERVATION is a must for this ship. wrote on Feb 6, 2008 10:39 AM:
Volunteer Numero Uno. wrote on Feb 6, 2008 10:32 AM:
Native Oregonian wrote on Feb 6, 2008 9:14 AM:
Just a Girl wrote on Feb 6, 2008 8:57 AM:
Liz wrote on Feb 6, 2008 8:49 AM:
http://www.rhminis.com/chart.jpg
(link to a shipwreck chart by NW Limited...)
grammakay wrote on Feb 6, 2008 6:00 AM:
coosbaylass wrote on Feb 6, 2008 4:04 AM:
found that VERY interesting!!
MLM wrote on Feb 6, 2008 1:31 AM:
PIRATE-SCOTT wrote on Feb 5, 2008 11:33 PM:
Liz wrote on Feb 5, 2008 11:07 PM:
I have to think that there is enough local interest that something could be done to preserve it if that's what you want?
As an Oregonian, I am interested!!
Newportresident wrote on Feb 5, 2008 8:34 PM:
Roger Rolen wrote on Feb 5, 2008 8:30 PM:
While out walking on the beach a few years ago, I know of a friend that reached down and pickrd up a $50.00 gold piece. It had a Viking ship on one side and a Viking Helmit on the other side. We taken metal detectors down and looked around and found some pieces of silver and also some pieces of 1" thick copper plating that was really old as well.
interesting wrote on Feb 5, 2008 5:51 PM:
Cindy wrote on Feb 5, 2008 3:42 PM:
Trishsom wrote on Feb 5, 2008 3:40 PM:
Curious wrote on Feb 5, 2008 2:30 PM:
Just a Girl wrote on Feb 5, 2008 2:17 PM:
Historian wrote on Feb 5, 2008 12:44 PM:
In the past couple of years at least two others have been uncovered.
Just south of the first Spinreel/Tenmile road entrance to the beach - when there is low tide during the winter you can see the metal prow of a vessel and last year there was a skeleton of a metal boat unearthed close to the North Spit.
Old Timer wrote on Feb 5, 2008 12:33 PM:
coosbaylass wrote on Feb 5, 2008 12:27 PM:



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