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Texas wrote on Mar 4, 2008 8:02 PM:
As far as the sentance that he received does not value human life. I am glad that we are allowed to have our own opinions. That is why our young people join the armed services to give us the right to write these statements.
Riggs wrote on Mar 4, 2008 5:51 PM:
are you people serious? since september 11, 2001, over 100,000 americans have been murdered"
So Grant, tell everyone here how Sept 11 2001 has -=any=- bearing on the fact that an illegal alien (by any definition)knowing broke the laws of these United States, broke the laws of the state of Oregon, violated employment laws, then proceeded to run down two innocent people, leaving them for dead....Go ahead and tell everyone
I didn't think so
"I would gladly trade a white trash welfare scammer for a hard working "illegal" ANY DAY!"
Playing the reverse race card won't get you anywhere, other than being labeled a closet racist.
If the shoe fit ;)
RICK wrote on Mar 4, 2008 4:48 PM:
YOU WOULD HIRE AN ILLEGALL BECAUSE, YOU BELIEVE IN CHEAP LABOR,TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ILLEGALS BECUASE THEY WON'T SAY ANYTHING, AND YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT KNOCKING DOWN AMERICAN WAGES.
RICK
grant freeman wrote on Mar 4, 2008 3:16 PM:
Ranger wrote on Feb 26, 2008 9:29 PM:
How did this man get an Oregon Drivers license?
Simple. He walked into a DMV (probably Medford), showed his "matricula card", issued by the corrupt mexican government, paid money, took the test and walked out a "Oregonian".
Until recently, the state was handing them out like candy during Christmas at PV Mall.
"How did he get insurance?"
Simple! He walked into an insurance office, showed off his new "I'm an Oregonian" document and they took his money. Show me an insurance agent that has a conscience.
"Is the family of the Vance's going to be able to sue him in civil court or is he going to get a pass because he is an illegal alien?"
For what? He's an illegal. They live in a cash only world, often living under the radar. His only mistake was getting caught otherwise had he managed to cross the border, he would be home free...literally!
He'll be deported after he's done his time and if he manages to slide under the fence and get caught, he'll likely spend the next 20 years in prison, as a convicted felon.
It's no big secret that the biggest number of prisoners in the system today are illegals, caught criminals doing time for both their past crimes and getting caught as convicted felons.
The Vance family will have to settle for the memories they hold and nothing else.
It is what it is.....
Concerned wrote on Feb 25, 2008 10:44 AM:
Eve Ning wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:42 PM:
Starr13_06 wrote on Feb 21, 2008 1:17 PM:
From Texas wrote on Feb 20, 2008 7:17 PM:
RICK wrote on Feb 16, 2008 8:38 PM:
BUT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.IF THE BORDERS WERE CLOSED AND OUR GOVERNMENT DID THERE JOB BY DEPORTING ILLEGALS, A LOT OF INOCENT AMERICANS WOULD STILL BE ALIVE TODAY.
SAVANNA, JUST WATCH AMERICAS MOST WANTED (SATURDAY NIGHTS). THERE IS ALWAYS SOMONE ON THAT SHOW WHO IS A ILLEGAL ALIEN/CRIMMINAL.AND WHEN I SAY ILLEGAL I'M NOT ONLY REFERING TO MEXICANS.
RICK
Pattie wrote on Feb 13, 2008 9:21 AM:
rick wrote on Feb 9, 2008 5:40 PM:
Our government must close our borders.We are in great danger and our citizens are being murdered by illegals.
This country is now known as the land of getting away with murder.
rick
It's a Great Deal! wrote on Feb 6, 2008 1:56 PM:
dan wrote on Feb 6, 2008 12:16 PM:
Its Needs to Stop wrote on Feb 5, 2008 5:35 AM:
just come right out and say it:
HE IS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN.
HE IS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN.
HE IS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN.
Jim wrote on Feb 4, 2008 6:20 PM:
he hit them......true..he ran..that was an exacerbation...it does not mitigate the fact that his failure to remain aware of his surroundings while driving his vehicle resulted in the deaths of two people.
Smitty wrote on Feb 4, 2008 12:45 PM:
The most a judge can do in departing from the regular sentence according to the law is double what is the normal sentence for someone charged with his crime and based on his criminal history. In the story it talks about the 16-18 month sentence his lawyer asked for. That is the normal sentence. The judge could have departed up or down. To go up, he was limited to 32-36 months. Since there were two counts, that means 32-36 months each, for a total of 72 months, which is what he got. Like the article said, he got the most time possible for what he was charged with.
Myself wrote on Feb 4, 2008 12:40 PM:
manslaughter is a charge that would have been based on driving. He was charged with what he did AFTER driving. The fact that two people are dead does not show whether he was speeding, ran a stop sign, drove on a sidewalk or was driving the wrong way on a one way street any more than it indicates the victims darted in front of the car, that they were jaywalking, walking with traffic rather than against. The fact that they were hit and killed could have been an accident. It is tragic. What the guy did wrong was leave. If he had stayed, no charges may have been filed. You can't use the result of an act as evidence that it was brought about illegally. With your logic, any car accident could then be charged as a DUII- they must have been drunk- they wrecked!
Jim wrote on Feb 4, 2008 11:30 AM:
Joe wrote on Feb 4, 2008 10:44 AM:
sadness wrote on Feb 4, 2008 10:24 AM:
Seems like he will be out in a couple of years.The people who died will be dead forever.
Might be time to out some coquille judges.
NB1 wrote on Feb 4, 2008 9:27 AM:
To Marilyn's sister ...I feel so badly for your family and am sorry this happened. I am sorry too that he wasn't charged with more, six years doesn't seem right.
music guy wrote on Feb 4, 2008 9:03 AM:
ex-coosbaynian wrote on Feb 4, 2008 8:21 AM:
Marilyn's sister wrote on Feb 4, 2008 8:12 AM:
legalatina wrote on Feb 4, 2008 8:02 AM:
Lester wrote on Feb 4, 2008 7:59 AM:
This is NOT THE COQUILLE JUSTICE SYSTEM...this is the feds that set this ruling. The only thing Coquille had to do with it is the fact that it's the County Seat. I agree that 6 years is a travisty, but don't make it sound like it's the fault of "The Coquille Justice System. That's just rediculous.
Don wrote on Feb 4, 2008 7:48 AM:
Jim wrote on Feb 4, 2008 7:12 AM:
Jim wrote on Feb 4, 2008 7:04 AM:
What do you call TWO PEOPLE DEAD because someone hit them? If that is not gross negligence in the operation of a motor vehicle....holy cow. I would call two dead people pretty convincing evidence that the guy didnt pay attention to what he was doing.
The DA office really screwed up.
disgusted wrote on Feb 3, 2008 11:43 PM:
Coos Bay Kid wrote on Feb 3, 2008 8:59 PM:
Mr Moncada's killed two people with his vehicle and then fled the scene, running from the crime that he committed. It's not fair to the Vance's for this felon to be back on the streets in six years. Moncada will probably be out of prison earlier. I think the fact that he is an immigrant plays a great part in this situation. Moncada knew if he made it to Mexico he would have a good chance to never be held accountable for the killings. That's why so many Mexicans move here. They take advantage of our indescrepancies and feel they are above the law. Or the law somehow doesn't apply to them. Look at how abused the Oregon Health Plan is. It's not fair. Make whatever spin you wnat to
CC wrote on Feb 3, 2008 7:20 PM:
Does the sentence fit the crime. No. What kind of message are we sending to teen drivers.. If you hit some one then flee the scene and say you "oh
but your honor it was just a mistake."
North Bend resident wrote on Feb 3, 2008 5:18 PM:
Shannon wrote on Feb 3, 2008 2:18 PM:
stop the north american union wrote on Feb 3, 2008 1:42 PM:
Murphy's Law wrote on Feb 3, 2008 11:10 AM:
I dont think he is going to enjoy it.
Bob wrote on Feb 3, 2008 10:06 AM:
You need to get your facts straight.
Moncada was charged and did plead guilty to (2) seperate FELONY counts. DA Frasier at the sentancing did in fact recommend 6 years prision time on each count to run
consecutivly (end to end) for a total of 12 years. It is the resonsibility of the trial court judge to pass sentance, in which he did impose 3 years prision time on each count. In addition his Oregon Drivers license has been revoked for 5 years starting upon his release from prision. So this person will not drive legally in Ore for at least 11 years. US Immigration has placed a hold on Mr. Moncada upon his release from prision for Deportation.
IF you want to blame someone, Blame our own state legislature for having such loose laws that permit UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS to recieve Oregon drivers license( and DMV has issued thousands) with no proof of being a legal citizen
Good Job DA Frasier on your efforts and the efforts of our local police depts who were involved. This man was on the run and was only 1 hour away from his home county of Mexico when he was arrested.
Bob wrote on Feb 3, 2008 9:46 AM:
You need to get your facts straight.
Moncada was charged and pled guilty to TWO FELONY charges. At Sentenancing DA Frasier did in fact recommend two (72 months) times in prison which equals 12 years total. It was the trial court judge who made the decision for 3 years prison time on each FELONY count. Time to run end to end on each charge which totals 6 years. The actual facts of the case did not warrant any other different charge under Oregon law.
Moncada is a undocumented ailen, and Immigration Service has placed a hold on him for Deportation, at the end of the 6 years he will spend in prison.
In addition his driving priviledges have been revoked for 5 years after the prison time has been served. So we know this man will not be driving legally for the next 11 years.
If you want to blame someone, blame our own DMV for handing out Oregon drivers licenses Willy - Nilly to the illegals
coming from the south.
Good Job Mr. Frasier, You did the right thing.
Do The Right Thing wrote on Feb 3, 2008 1:39 AM:
bboop how can it be a tragedy for both? He's not going to suffer anywhere near as much as they did. He was fleeing to Mexico.. If he would have made it, that in it's self would have been a far more harsh punishment than what he got. Now he gets 3 hot's and a cot thanks to the taxpayers.. Now that's real justice.
J Alram wrote on Feb 2, 2008 9:48 PM:
Marla, lots of "They" and us versus them mentality in your comment... Don't judge and entire nation of people on the actions of a one, or even a few. Your comment is saddening, as is this case for everyone. No one wins especially when many in the community feel the way you do. It's akin to saying that all Austrians want a Holocaust, based on the actions of Hitler.
Myself wrote on Feb 2, 2008 8:21 PM:
wondering wrote on Feb 2, 2008 2:35 PM:
What I do find odd is Mr. Moncada was sentenced six years for an accident yet, the coward who murdered ( premediated) a man by the railroad tracks in late '96 is out free and working in NB. Which would you rather have in your community- a premediated murder or a man who was involved in an accident and only crime was driving away?
Catman wrote on Feb 2, 2008 2:22 PM:
He was sentenced for "Failure to perform the duties of a driver to an injured person."
He should have been sentenced for Vehicular Manslaughter, which would have given the Court the ability for a MUCH longer sentence.
The Coos County District Attorney R. Paul Frasier has failed this County, should have charged him with the FELONIES, and had him sentenced to a much greater sentence.
Coos Bay Kid wrote on Feb 2, 2008 2:18 PM:
"Hamilton said he is a law abiding citizen for the most part." What the h***!!!
Marla J. wrote on Feb 2, 2008 2:02 PM:
Coos Bay Kid wrote on Feb 2, 2008 12:34 PM:
Jim wrote on Feb 2, 2008 12:02 PM:
Coquiller resident wrote on Feb 2, 2008 11:42 AM:
"Stone sentenced Garcia Moncada to the severest punishment possible for striking and fleeing the site of an accident without providing aid to the victims — two consecutive 36-month sentences in the state penitentiary; a total of six years in prison."
They gave him the maximum allowable sentence; the judge doesn't have the power to give him more than that.
anonymous wrote on Feb 2, 2008 11:31 AM:
bboop wrote on Feb 2, 2008 10:08 AM:




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