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Robert wrote on Mar 2, 2008 1:01 PM:
Ranger..I do realize he is in the US illegally. Do you really think that only Hispanics are here illegally? I, unlike you, could careless about his race. It has nothing to do with the crime. Would it of made you feel better if it was a local coos county meth addict that committed the terrible accident?
There are no winners on either side of the accident. If we can't get past the race of the driver..then we will never learn from the tragic accident.
On a side note...I think the coffee stand that is being built in the middle of the mall is going to cause another accident of some sort. It right in the middle of the way. Taco Bell's drive through line goes right where the coffee stand is. So between the traffic for the mall, traffic for TB, traffic for the coffee shop and all the foot traffic..there is bound to be an accident. Hopeful not deadly like this one.
There are no winners on either side of the accident. If we can't get past the race of the driver..then we will never learn from the tragic accident.
On a side note...I think the coffee stand that is being built in the middle of the mall is going to cause another accident of some sort. It right in the middle of the way. Taco Bell's drive through line goes right where the coffee stand is. So between the traffic for the mall, traffic for TB, traffic for the coffee shop and all the foot traffic..there is bound to be an accident. Hopeful not deadly like this one.
Ranger wrote on Mar 1, 2008 11:23 AM:
Robert, what part of that don't you understand?
Point of reference:
He came to this country illegally; broken law.
He traveled across this country and into the state of Oregon; broken law.
He ran down two innocent lives, leaving them for dead, leaving the scene of a crime; broken law.
Bob was pretty much spot with this:
"his culture has little respect for life outside there own family"
Point of reference:
He came to this country illegally; broken law.
He traveled across this country and into the state of Oregon; broken law.
He ran down two innocent lives, leaving them for dead, leaving the scene of a crime; broken law.
Bob was pretty much spot with this:
"his culture has little respect for life outside there own family"
robert wrote on Feb 29, 2008 1:43 PM:
How do you know he is "quite used to breaking the law"? You know him personally I guess.
He has never been arrested or in trouble before.
He has never been arrested or in trouble before.
bob wrote on Feb 28, 2008 4:06 PM:
He is quite used to breaking laws the fact he is in this country illegally is Prof of that I feel he ran because he did not want his other crimes detected his culture has little respect for life outside there own family
Vinny wrote on Feb 24, 2008 2:57 PM:
North Dakota, thanks for leaving. Typical response from someone fleeing the scene.
This is the deal: For those of you that support illegal aliens, I suggest you go to Mexico and help the Mexicans have a better life, but do it on your time and your budget. Don't expect the legal American tax payers to put up with this illegal invasion anymore. We are law abiding, Americans, not racist. Call it what you want, but the race card isn't working anymore. Illegals do not have more rights than Americans and that is a fact of life. I don't need my tax dollars handed out by the Government to support invaders or their offspring.
This is the deal: For those of you that support illegal aliens, I suggest you go to Mexico and help the Mexicans have a better life, but do it on your time and your budget. Don't expect the legal American tax payers to put up with this illegal invasion anymore. We are law abiding, Americans, not racist. Call it what you want, but the race card isn't working anymore. Illegals do not have more rights than Americans and that is a fact of life. I don't need my tax dollars handed out by the Government to support invaders or their offspring.
Becky wrote on Feb 24, 2008 1:35 PM:
I feel he should been charged with two counts of Murder. He ran these two people over with his truck, and left the scene. Not even checking to see if he could help them. He didn't even dial 911. Sounds like Murder to me. Then to top it off he's in our country illegally. What would the Mexican police have done to one of us running down two of their own and leaving the scene? I feel our justice system needs to be looked at as well. More and more of this is happening around our country and the illegals get a slap on the wrist.
North Dakota wrote on Feb 23, 2008 10:27 PM:
I used to live in the bay area, yes there are a lot of racist people there and they are not afraid to say it to their race. Most of Coos Bay and North Bend are afraid of their own shadow and they are cowards.
Ranger wrote on Feb 23, 2008 1:54 PM:
Time to start pointing fingers...My only question is: When will this manslaughter/murder cease?
Weep for the children:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/21/illegal-alien-bus-driver-arrested-in-minnesota-school-tragedy/
Weep for the children:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/21/illegal-alien-bus-driver-arrested-in-minnesota-school-tragedy/
Pacman wrote on Feb 23, 2008 1:52 PM:
I recently got upset with a coworker of mine when we were talking about illeagal aliens. As soon as I brought up the subject she said that I was a racist towards Hispanics. Some people are so ignorant its crazy. Hey its not like we have illeagles from Canada and Europe, Africa, the Middle East etc... etc...
Jim wrote on Feb 23, 2008 6:13 AM:
Bubba hit it right on the head. Linda, the only way anything gets changed is through action. Sittinog around and saying "stop pointing your fingers", in itself, guarantees no action will be taken to solve the problem of illegal immigration. Time to START pointing fingers at our elected officials and get them to actually uphold the law.
Ranger wrote on Feb 19, 2008 6:32 PM:
Sorry Linda, but I have to disagree. Your comment "You finger pointers do no good to anyone" isn't correct. Bubba had it right when he stated "Had this individual NOT been in the country, the Nances could have very well still been alive. There is no way that can be argued away".....
It's high time people got up out of their comfort zones and started demanding their elected representatives started representing THEM. They do NOT represent illegal aliens; by their very nature, they are ILLEGAL to this land, this culture, these UNITED STATES.
It's time to start pointing fingers at the very people who allow or condone these people coming here.
I'd pretty much bet your opinion would be different had it been your parents/grandparents that got run down.
It's high time people got up out of their comfort zones and started demanding their elected representatives started representing THEM. They do NOT represent illegal aliens; by their very nature, they are ILLEGAL to this land, this culture, these UNITED STATES.
It's time to start pointing fingers at the very people who allow or condone these people coming here.
I'd pretty much bet your opinion would be different had it been your parents/grandparents that got run down.
linda wrote on Feb 18, 2008 7:21 PM:
This was a tragedy for everyone involved.You "finger pointers" do no good to anyone.... it could happen to anyone by anyone. Get over yourselves.
IB6UB9 wrote on Feb 17, 2008 12:35 AM:
Why is everything a racial issue around here? I'm quite sure that all that have their racist fingers typing away are not TRUE AMERICANS. Half breeds, quarter breeds, imbreeds. How many people wouldn't be scared to death if they had ran somebody over and left the scene of the crime? You that are all pure and free of any type of sin!!!
I myself, would have probably took off myself, and I am "WHITE" would have thought about heading for the border, because they can't get you there. If you can honestly say that you have never thought about doing something, anything, and heading for Mexico just to keep out of trouble then KUDOS to U. Because you must be the most godlyest person around. Think of it this way, MAYBE that couple shouldn't have been walking down the middle of the parking lot. There is a sidewalk for pedestrians to walk on. And if you walk in the middle of a traffic lane you are bound to get ran over. whether it be a person or animal. Why put the blame all on him? How about people taking equal blame for their actions??? That's the "WHITE" way of doing things.
I myself, would have probably took off myself, and I am "WHITE" would have thought about heading for the border, because they can't get you there. If you can honestly say that you have never thought about doing something, anything, and heading for Mexico just to keep out of trouble then KUDOS to U. Because you must be the most godlyest person around. Think of it this way, MAYBE that couple shouldn't have been walking down the middle of the parking lot. There is a sidewalk for pedestrians to walk on. And if you walk in the middle of a traffic lane you are bound to get ran over. whether it be a person or animal. Why put the blame all on him? How about people taking equal blame for their actions??? That's the "WHITE" way of doing things.
Bubba wrote on Feb 15, 2008 7:07 PM:
"Why is it this is being made into an issue about race? and immigration status?"
This is MORE than an issue about race and immigration but a point needs to be made regarding immigration:
1. Had this individual NOT been in the country, the Nances could have very well still been alive. There is no way that can be argued away.
2. You mention race. The corrupt legal system in this country has been bastardized by bleating heart politicians and judges, all because of RACE. If a WHITE guy had run over two mexicans, he'd be strung up for the next 20 years.
"i am glad at times that i moved away"
Trust me when I say, I'm glad you moved away too.
This is MORE than an issue about race and immigration but a point needs to be made regarding immigration:
1. Had this individual NOT been in the country, the Nances could have very well still been alive. There is no way that can be argued away.
2. You mention race. The corrupt legal system in this country has been bastardized by bleating heart politicians and judges, all because of RACE. If a WHITE guy had run over two mexicans, he'd be strung up for the next 20 years.
"i am glad at times that i moved away"
Trust me when I say, I'm glad you moved away too.
why? wrote on Feb 15, 2008 3:40 AM:
Why is it this is being made into an issue about race? and immigration status? so if this was an american it would be ok? wow there sure are a bunch of racists in coos bay and i am glad at times that i moved away. yes he made a mistake but he lives with that everyday of his life. it was an accident and no noone even if from the usa would get life. people who intentionally kill people serve 10-20 all the time, this is a tragedy for all involved please don't make it a racial hate issue. but this will probably never even get printed cause i have noticed alot of stuff doesn't unless it pleases whoever reads this and edits
Stephanie wrote on Feb 9, 2008 9:32 PM:
My daughter was just killed here in Utah and the guy Just left her there in the middle of the freeway. they are telling me that he will only get 30 days to 6 monthes in the county jail!! I am outraged!!! what are the laws on hit and runs in Oregon? Here it is only a Class a misdameaner. With up to 1 Year in jail. not only did he keep driving and the only way they found him is because his bumper fell off with the license plate on it, but he went home and cleaned his car completly inside and out, and dumped it and called and reported it stolen.
Jack wrote on Feb 9, 2008 1:26 PM:
"Daniel wrote on Feb 9, 2008 8:47 AM:
Another reason these dirt-bag illegals shouldn't be in our country"
Negative Daniel. These people come here for basically three reasons:
1. Lack of work in their home countries because NAFTA killed the jobs in their countries.
2. Free health care/welfare/education that our corrupt politicians have put in place because of their misguided beliefs.
3. Greedy employers that will take advantage of cheap labor; read that as illegal aliens that know how to work the welfare system and willing to work for minimum or less wages.
Want a solution?
1. Build the fence across the US/Mexico border.
2. Boycott any employer that hires illegals.
3. Start the deportations.
Anyone here can start #2 immediately. If you refuse to do business with any organization that hires them, that business will get the message real quick and change their ways, or else face bankruptcy.
Personally speaking, I absolutely refuse to spend my money ANYWHERE I suspect they hire or employ someone from another country, legal or otherwise.
The rule of thumb is as follows: Those that have the most gold make the rules. As consumers, WE have the power and authority to determine who and what gets a job in the country.
Thank about it
Another reason these dirt-bag illegals shouldn't be in our country"
Negative Daniel. These people come here for basically three reasons:
1. Lack of work in their home countries because NAFTA killed the jobs in their countries.
2. Free health care/welfare/education that our corrupt politicians have put in place because of their misguided beliefs.
3. Greedy employers that will take advantage of cheap labor; read that as illegal aliens that know how to work the welfare system and willing to work for minimum or less wages.
Want a solution?
1. Build the fence across the US/Mexico border.
2. Boycott any employer that hires illegals.
3. Start the deportations.
Anyone here can start #2 immediately. If you refuse to do business with any organization that hires them, that business will get the message real quick and change their ways, or else face bankruptcy.
Personally speaking, I absolutely refuse to spend my money ANYWHERE I suspect they hire or employ someone from another country, legal or otherwise.
The rule of thumb is as follows: Those that have the most gold make the rules. As consumers, WE have the power and authority to determine who and what gets a job in the country.
Thank about it
Daniel wrote on Feb 9, 2008 8:47 AM:
Another reason these dirt-bag illegals shouldn't be in our country. He should have received the death penalty. This judge is a pathetic joke. He's probably the same judge that routinely sentences meth dealer to 30 days in jail.
what is the difference? wrote on Feb 8, 2008 1:41 PM:
A lady who hit and killed a motorcyclist in Eugene was sentenced yesterday to SIX months in jail. She drove off from the scene and left the man to die. She was drunk. She didn't get caught for months until the autobody shop that was fixing her van called it in.
( Go to Oregonlive.com..breaking news to read to whole story)
I'm curious to why she got six months?
Mr. Moncanda got six years. One was an accident and one was the result of drinking and driving. They both drove off. In fact, it took a lot longer to find and charge the woman. What is the difference?
( Go to Oregonlive.com..breaking news to read to whole story)
I'm curious to why she got six months?
Mr. Moncanda got six years. One was an accident and one was the result of drinking and driving. They both drove off. In fact, it took a lot longer to find and charge the woman. What is the difference?
CONFUSED wrote on Feb 7, 2008 12:29 PM:
Another man up North in Oregon was just convicted of 10 YEARS for accidently killing someone, and he did not run off, leave the scene or anything of the sort. 10 YEARS for ONE life, why did this guy only get 6 for TWO lives?
Bubba wrote on Feb 6, 2008 11:59 PM:
"not because he got caught....but because he took two human lives...going to get 4-6 years in prison yet he faced it like a man would. this man has a conscience."
What a load of crap!
Conscience? He murdered two innocent people and then his conscience made him drive off, headed to mexico...thats the action of a coward.
No, he faced nothing like a man. He's a coward, pure and simple.
What a load of crap!
Conscience? He murdered two innocent people and then his conscience made him drive off, headed to mexico...thats the action of a coward.
No, he faced nothing like a man. He's a coward, pure and simple.
james wrote on Feb 6, 2008 12:31 PM:
i know Noe personally, i watched this man cry over this, not because he got caught....but because he took two human lives.
he has a wife and several children in mexico who are going to suffer from this , this is also a concern of his.
Noe knew that he was most likely going to get 4-6 years in prison yet he faced it like a man would.
this man has a conscience.....i feel that if you don't know him, don't speak about him....good or bad.
he has a wife and several children in mexico who are going to suffer from this , this is also a concern of his.
Noe knew that he was most likely going to get 4-6 years in prison yet he faced it like a man would.
this man has a conscience.....i feel that if you don't know him, don't speak about him....good or bad.
music guy wrote on Feb 4, 2008 9:21 AM:
I have sat in on several of Judge Stone's proceedings. I have nothing but respect for him. If you want to point the finger, point it at the DA for not doing his job! Another example of the "good ole' boy" system - Frazier & Company should be put outta business.
Truth wrote on Feb 4, 2008 8:43 AM:
A lot of people are bitching because of the sentance, blaming the judge and district attorney. Well guess what, YOU THE PEOPLE make the laws. Moncada was given the MAXIMUM sentance he could be given and was charged with the only crimes that could be proven in court. SO IF YOU DONT LIKE THE OUTCOME, VOTE FOR CHANGE. THIS STATE IS LIBERAL BECAUSE 50% OR LESS OF THE PEOPLE VOTE. WELL YOU ARE TOO LAZY TO FIX IT SO THIS IS WHAT YOU GOT.
Danial wrote on Feb 4, 2008 1:32 AM:
The laws governing Oregon's sentencing guidelines are a direct result of too many years of bleeding heart liberalism controlling our courts. We have only the voters to blame for getting sucked into this "feel good" political sham that is our state government.
Tim wrote on Feb 3, 2008 1:15 PM:
For those of you seeking more information about his sentence, and those of you that have been ill-informed...watch the news. The MAXIMUM sentence WAS six years. The DA stated that on the news and the family of the victims understood that, but wished it could be higher. Our justice system is flawed on many different levels...but whether he's an illegal alien or not, the sentence wouldn't be any different. Someone said that a US citizen gets a higher sentence for their first DUII...wrong. A few years ago I myself drove drunk AND was involved in a 3-car accident in which one person was slightly injured, and my sentence didn't include ANY jail time. Some probation and a fine...that's about it. So please people...don't pass off your statements as FACT unless they really ARE factual.
coastal friend wrote on Feb 2, 2008 11:01 AM:
The excuse that he panicked, and that is all it is, an excuse, does not fly.
We all panick when something bad happens, should that give a free ticket out, hardly.
Until everyone, and I mean everyone of us, is responsible for our actions, we will see no change.
Let us all contact our lawmakers to change laws before this keeps on happening over again, enough already.
We all panick when something bad happens, should that give a free ticket out, hardly.
Until everyone, and I mean everyone of us, is responsible for our actions, we will see no change.
Let us all contact our lawmakers to change laws before this keeps on happening over again, enough already.
Samuel wrote on Feb 2, 2008 6:53 AM:
You know I can see why vigiante justice is making a come back. being a former Law Enforcement Proffessional, I have always told my superiors and the courts that this kind of justice is going to start making a comeback. Being in a small town where everybody knows you by your first name and your neighbors to these folks, you feel their pain, frustration and need for justice. Many think that Law Enforcement officers are not human. Well, I have some news for all you! We Are! Believe it or not, we do feel your pain and we are stuck between a rock and a hard place because when someone like this guy gets off, we have to do all we can to keep the peace for him (as well as the rest of the public)when he gets out and at the sametime you wish you could draw your service pistol and cap him in the forehead for what he did. It is a hard job to do and yet not everybody is qualified to do it. That is one of my many reasons why I left the proffession, took a major pay cut and went to the private sector of security. I even aquired an AAS degree and cannot even use it because of Affirmative Action. I hear all of the people who have commented on this article and agree with most! but not all of you.... It is only a matter of time before people in this country come to blows with the system that is obviously broken beyond repair.
coos bay chick wrote on Feb 2, 2008 12:29 AM:
most offenders who kill people get 25 to life, put him where he belongs.....
Austin wrote on Feb 1, 2008 10:58 PM:
I want to know what the presumptive sentence under the Sentencing Guidleines was for Mr. Moncada. What sentencing recommendation did the Parole and Probation Department make? Did the judge's sentence follow or depart from the guidelines or any recommendation? What sentence did the District Attorney ask for? Why do the sub-headline and photo caption say Moncada was sentenced to seven years but the article says he only got six years? More information please.
Jim wrote on Feb 1, 2008 10:57 PM:
Actually, Tim, running them down WAS the crime. They are dead. He only exacerbated the situation with his callous disregard of human life. He got off WAYYYYYYYY too easy. What are you thinking ..."We can't presume to know what kind of life this man has lived and didn't want to return to in Mexico...so we shouldn't judge him so harshly. " I sure as h*** CAN judge him harshly, it doesnt matter WHY he ran off the fact that he did makes him lower than dirt. He deserves life in prison. He has been found guilty in a court of law - I dont have to judge him..he has already been judged. Good lord, bleeding hearts like you just make me want to vomit.
Jim wrote on Feb 1, 2008 10:51 PM:
6 years? what in the name of God is WRONG with the judge? This jerk should be in jail for life. Period.
concerned wrote on Feb 1, 2008 10:14 PM:
With the complete lack of regard for any justice from the positions they hold I would hope Mr Stone and Mr Fraser would recognize their inability to serve the taxpayers of this county and resign and move on. What a travesty!!
reedsgirl wrote on Feb 1, 2008 8:58 PM:
6 years unbelievable.... you get more as a us citizen for drunk driving or excuse me i got a speeding ticket for 20 miles over, and cant drive during certain times and if i get pulled over in 2 years i loose my liscense for 5 years ... my first ticket in 4 years,, i got almost more punishment then noe moncada ... my gosh what is wrong with the oregon judicial system any way?????? get real frazier......
sorry shirley for your loss... my thoughts are deffinatley with you..
sorry shirley for your loss... my thoughts are deffinatley with you..
Gene wrote on Feb 1, 2008 8:22 PM:
Please realize that the law was followed. A first time offense does not warrant maximum sentencing. I know the issue bothers a lot of people because two lives were taken in a brief few seconds of bad choices and they don't think the perpetrator got a big enough sentence. The law is not supposed to be bias and in this case I don't think it was. The Judge did the correct thing. I don't know this man and most of you don't either. He has to live with his mistake for the rest of his life.
Jodie wrote on Feb 1, 2008 7:43 PM:
I feel for the family left behind. My heart goes out to you all. My eyes are welled up in tears.
Sam wrote on Feb 1, 2008 7:41 PM:
Here is a good example of the lack of leadership in Oregon and good judges.
With Stone and Frasier in office this will happen again and again.
Here is a non citizen of the United States and a citizen of Mexico. Drives through the Pony Village Mall and leaves the scene of an accident. After he runs down 2 visiting people and leaves them to die.
Shame on court we have here in Coos County. He should have received 20 years if not more. If I said I was affraid would I get off. Let's all use that excuse.
With Stone and Frasier in office this will happen again and again.
Here is a non citizen of the United States and a citizen of Mexico. Drives through the Pony Village Mall and leaves the scene of an accident. After he runs down 2 visiting people and leaves them to die.
Shame on court we have here in Coos County. He should have received 20 years if not more. If I said I was affraid would I get off. Let's all use that excuse.
angry in North Bend wrote on Feb 1, 2008 5:40 PM:
I guess that once again we have seen that life is cheap here.
beebsie wrote on Feb 1, 2008 5:00 PM:
The only justification the citizens of Coos Bay will get for this heinous crime would be to remove those two cretins (Stone and Frasier)from office.
Linda wrote on Feb 1, 2008 4:42 PM:
To a question, it's partially the fault of the elected officials. get a clue.Writing them is like looking at Paul Frazier.
coastal friend wrote on Feb 1, 2008 4:32 PM:
This is not a racial issue. This is a moral, lawful issue. One does not run over people, leave the scene and go on like nothing has happened.
As long as we are liberal thinkers, unable to make everyone accountable for their actions, this will continue.
We need to change laws to be strict. Need judges willing to take the hard stand and a public willing to back those laws. Until then, God help us all.
As long as we are liberal thinkers, unable to make everyone accountable for their actions, this will continue.
We need to change laws to be strict. Need judges willing to take the hard stand and a public willing to back those laws. Until then, God help us all.
G Beam wrote on Feb 1, 2008 4:09 PM:
If they would have been my family,that POS would get the DEATH PENALTY>
Radar Road wrote on Feb 1, 2008 4:03 PM:
I sure hope everyone here learned a couple of lessons from this....
1. If you're a legal citizen in this country, you're prosecuted to the FULL extent of the law.
2. It's better to live under the radar since under the current law, "they" have less incentive to prosecute and you have less to offer in return.
It's bad enough that illegals come here, corrupt the system under which we are all held accountable and then skirt off practically Scott free.
Where do I renounce my citizenship?
1. If you're a legal citizen in this country, you're prosecuted to the FULL extent of the law.
2. It's better to live under the radar since under the current law, "they" have less incentive to prosecute and you have less to offer in return.
It's bad enough that illegals come here, corrupt the system under which we are all held accountable and then skirt off practically Scott free.
Where do I renounce my citizenship?
Jim wrote on Feb 1, 2008 4:02 PM:
If your a American citizen you can get more time for a first time DUII than if your from Mexico and kill some folks. Wake Up And Smell The Roses!
A Question wrote on Feb 1, 2008 3:49 PM:
So why are all of you voicing your opinion here on the nature of this. If you want action on stuff like this, contact your elected officials! With something like 10,000,000 illegals in this country how many crimes would NOT happen if they weren't here! I too am outraged that he got such an easy sentence. It really is a sign of what is to come in the future though
Coos Bay GAL wrote on Feb 1, 2008 3:32 PM:
Only 6 years..... I think it shoul have been more. although he did not intend to kill those folks, but he fled the sene.. I see people all the time speeding around in the area of the mall. I wonder how long it will take for another accident to occur. My heart goes out to the family who lost 2 of thier loved ones.
CJDEGREE wrote on Feb 1, 2008 3:26 PM:
What?! Six years at the most!? I am sorry Shirley and to your family, I feel a bit embarrassed. Something is not right here! I know a teen who wrecked his car on purpose (for insurance fraud) and ended up killing his best friend in the process. He got more time than this guy. But that is the way the system works, not always the way we think or feel it should. I agree with notahick as well.
dirx2 wrote on Feb 1, 2008 3:06 PM:
I see no prejudice here; just people who believe that justice was not served no matter what race you are. take note notahick.
NotaHick wrote on Feb 1, 2008 2:45 PM:
First of all, the maximum sentence this man faced was 10 years on each count plus a fine of 250,000.00. The most he could get is 20 years.
This is the case whatever nationality he is. We live in an area where there are few minorities, and the prejudice is coming out very strongly in this comments section. The most any of us could have gotten was 20 years.
From what I know of this case, he should get the maximum of 20 years. That is my only complaint.
Leave the race issue behind, because all it does is show your own ignorance.
This is the case whatever nationality he is. We live in an area where there are few minorities, and the prejudice is coming out very strongly in this comments section. The most any of us could have gotten was 20 years.
From what I know of this case, he should get the maximum of 20 years. That is my only complaint.
Leave the race issue behind, because all it does is show your own ignorance.
Just my opinion wrote on Feb 1, 2008 2:27 PM:
I wonder if Tim would really be able to back up his statement that he would not change his opinion and not hate this person if that were his parents, child, or spouse that was left to die that night....if so, WOW. I am driving to teach my 16 year old that driving behind the wheel of a car is just like having a loaded gun in your hand. It can be dangerous and deadly and should be taken very seriouisly. Thats the chance and responsibility we take every time we drive and must face the consequences for our actions, Period! Not wanting to face deporation because his life in Mexico might not be a bed of roses does not give a person the right to run people down and leave them like a piece of garbage on the side of the road and then to go to work like nothing happened...I'm sure life in Mexico doesn't look too bad right now compared to prison life with others who don't give a rats you know what about other human lives, his included.
Just An Observer wrote on Feb 1, 2008 2:24 PM:
Look at the Curry County sheriff, who violated public trust completely and only got a year for his lies and crimes. You can do some pretty bad things in Oregon and not get a whole lot of punishment, which is why we the voters went with Measure 11. I guess we need a Measure 12...LOL!
JJ wrote on Feb 1, 2008 2:19 PM:
Yes it could be murder. Was he drunk or high on something? We'll never know because he went to work for two days probably not even thinking about those poor people he ran down. All he was thinking was "How do I get out of town?" and get off scott free?
Nick wrote on Feb 1, 2008 2:05 PM:
This man will be out in three years, maximum. We're too caught up in punishing drug crimes to actually punish a killer.
This wasn't murder per se, but this was manslaughter, and his disregard for the lives of these two people arguably contributed to their deaths. Ten years, at least, is deserved for this kind of crime.
This wasn't murder per se, but this was manslaughter, and his disregard for the lives of these two people arguably contributed to their deaths. Ten years, at least, is deserved for this kind of crime.
DIRK STADDEN wrote on Feb 1, 2008 2:03 PM:
Whats wrong with this picture?? If any one of us would have done something like that we would have gotten life at least and would would have expected to get life or the death penalty. It was flat out homicide and should have been treated as such.
Linda wrote on Feb 1, 2008 1:52 PM:
And my son at 18years old got over half of that sentence for drugs. Right do the crime do the time. And my brother-in-law got 19 years for supposedly being in possesion of a fire arm. Give me a break. We're a minority in our own country! So what are telling us, it's better if you kill someone, you'll get less time.
It doesnt matter who I am wrote on Feb 1, 2008 1:28 PM:
This is a very sad deal.If I had done this,being a U.S citizen I would expect to recieve life in prison. So when are they going to be treated equal.I know he can write home to his family in Mexico so the rest of his siblings can come to commit even more crimes and basicly get away with murder.My heart goes out to the family of the couple who didnt get a fair trial.....
Tim wrote on Feb 1, 2008 1:26 PM:
I'm very sorry for the loss of these lives, and agree that his sentence should've been a little greater...10 years, maybe? Not 25 to life, though. The fact that he hit those people causing their deaths wasn't the crime. This wasn't a murder. He panicked and fled the scene. THAT was his crime. Was it horrible? Yes...definitely. He had a choice to make that night. He could stay and take responsibility while facing deportation as a result of the accident...or he could flee and attempt to continue his life as normally as possible. We can't presume to know what kind of life this man has lived and didn't want to return to in Mexico...so we shouldn't judge him so harshly. He made the wrong choice that night...but we've ALL been faced with tough decisions and made the wrong choice. He'll live with this for the rest of his life, as we all have to live with our mistakes. Do I feel sympathy for him? No. Not really. I believe the punishment just about fits the crime in this case. Will I judge him or hate him for it? No. If it were MY family members that were killed that night, would it change my opinion? No. Hate the tragedy...NOT the man who caused it.
agreeing wrote on Feb 1, 2008 1:00 PM:
yes, he should get life - he did end two lives. People who are rapists get 8 years - he kills 2 people - shows no concern - has his family help him leave area by gathering funds - and he gets an easy walk in the pokey! Oregon is just showing that it is better to kill then rape now!
Coos Bay reader wrote on Feb 1, 2008 12:51 PM:
I agree with Shirley Farnsworth. i am VERY sorry about your sister and brother-in-law. Best wishes to you and your family.
Christina wrote on Feb 1, 2008 12:36 PM:
This is so unfortunate, I am sorry for your great loss. The reality is that humans committ stupid acts whethere it be driven by fear, self-fishness, negligence, deviance etc... driver's license is not the issue.. people will drive with or without it (e.x. those that get suspended for DUII's-and have caused fatality also). Personally I feel much more comfotable giving people D.L so at least there is some kind record of who they are and where they reside. I do think the penalty should have been greater as what he did is a painly a gross crime. Illegal immigrants are not the only ones that kill millions of people each year, its human beings that are negligent and at times flat out deviant.
Richard wrote on Feb 1, 2008 12:30 PM:
Dave, Mr. Moncada has all the qualities and personaltiy traits of the clowns in Salem that write the laws and determine some sentencing guidlines. You get what you vote for, and I think Mr. Moncada could do just as good a job as the current crop of itiots in Salem.
Shirley Farnsworth wrote on Feb 1, 2008 12:02 PM:
This is a very small price for Noe Garcia Moncada to pay for killing my sister and brother in law. Illegals should never be allowed a driver's license! Our family and their friends will suffer their loss long after this illegal alien is out of prison. Something needs to be done in Oregon to change the laws!!!
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