Governor’s aide gets earful in North Bend

By Susan Chambers, Staff Writer
Sunday, January 20, 2008 | 3 comment(s)

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NORTH BEND — The question was simple: Why?

A panel of 10 local leaders and a handful of audience members talked about wave energy and marine reserves — primarily about reserves — during a visit from Gov. Ted Kulongoski’s chief of staff, Chip Terhune, at the North Bend Public Library on Friday. It was a follow-up meeting from one coastal fishermen had with Kulongoski in November.

Most of the 50 or so folks in the audience just listened.

So did Terhune.

He took a lot of notes, asked a few questions. Made a few statements.

And everyone got to enjoy a little bit of fresh Dungeness crab.

Terhune was on the last stop of a three-day swing down the coast to listen to communities’ concerns about closing off areas of the ocean for either marine reserves or wave-energy generating buoys.

“I’m here to listen. Give me an earful,” he said.

Terhune said a lot of folks look at the development in Central Oregon as the symbol of a lot of change. Similar change could be coming to the coast, and coastal residents must decide what they want their communities to look like in 10 or 15 years — a future that may include marine reserves and wave energy buoys bobbing off the coast.

Oregon Dungeness Crab Commission Administrator Nick Furman concentrated on commenting on the health of local fisheries. But first he noted he found it ironic that locals were packed into a meeting room while those who could be most affected by the changes — commercial crabbers — were absent, taking advantage of the nice weather to go out on the ocean to work.

“I take issue with some of the tactics used to influence you on your public swing,” Furman said, noting that several comments were sent around by e-mail to encourage folks to attend the meetings in support of marine reserves. “This is a real effort to influence your opinion.”

In reality, he said, Oregon’s fisheries are in pretty darned good shape. The pink shrimp fishery recently was labeled as a sustainable fishery by the Marine Stewardship Council and the Oregon crab fishery likely will be, too.

“I think our coastal waters are healthier than they’ve ever been,” he said.

And before Terhune could open the meeting to general comments from the audience, Furman tried some personal influence of his own: He passed around a can of fresh-picked Dungeness crab for the panelists and audience members to sample.

Many of the other panelists echoed his comments.

Wayne Butler, who owns Prowler Charters in Bandon, said marine reserves don’t fit easily into already well-managed fisheries.

For instance, he said, if 30 percent of the fishing grounds are closed to protect one species of fish, all of the existing fishermen will be forced to fish in the remaining 70 percent of fishing grounds. That would put more pressure on the one species — and all fish — that also lives outside of the marine reserve. Under current fisheries management, quotas or bag limits could be reduced to diminish fishing efforts on fish outside of the reserves.

Furthermore, there already are existing closed areas to protect some rockfish species, such as yelloweye.

“Why?” Butler asked of the need for reserves. “What is the benefit?”

Terhune opened the meeting to general public comments and prefaced that part of the meeting with one observation.

“The passion I’ve heard here, the knowledge I’ve heard here is impressive,” he said.

The sole supporter for marine reserves was Bandon resident Bill Russell, who’s been involved with the Shoreline Education for Awareness.

Russell said he’d heard denials of the science about the effectiveness of reserves from panel members.

“The fact that they don’t work is not true,” Russell said.

He noted that the Partnership for Interdisciplinary Studies of Coastal Oceans, a joint research program of four Oregon and California universities, has done studies of marine reserves and also collected information about marine reserves around the world. PISCO scientists found that there is significant diversity of marine species, an increase in the numbers of animals and spillover effects from marine reserves, he said.

Reserves are a good plan he said, noting that salmon no longer are as abundant as Coquille Indian Tribe member Tom Younker mentioned earlier in the meeting.

“Those aren’t marine issues, sir,” commercial salmon troller Rick Goche countered when he spoke. “Those are freshwater (issues).”

Most of the salmon problems come from the fish’s life cycle on land, when they’re in the river and subject to disease and parasites, Goche said.

Friday wasn’t the end of the discussion. People wishing to make written comments are encouraged to send those to Gov. Ted Kulongoski, 160 State Capitol, 900 Court St., Salem, OR 97301-4047; or by e-mail to representative.citizen@state.or.us.
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The Oregon International Port of Coos Bay arranged for the meeting with Chip Terhune, Oregon Gov. Ted Kulongoski’s chief of staff. The meeting at the North Bend Public Library included several local panelists:


* Coos County Commissioner John Griffith;


* Nick Nylander, representing sports fishermen;


* Don Goddard, of Bandon, who owns a commercial fishing vessel;


* Commercial fisherman Jeff Reeves;


* Oregon International Port of Coos Bay Commissioner Jerry Hampel;


* Oregon Dungeness Crab Commission Administrator Nick Furman;


* Charter boat owner Wayne Butler;


* Coos Bay Mayor Jeff McKeown;


* Coquille Indian Tribe member Tom Younker; and


* Hallmark Fisheries Production Manager Scott Adams.
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Nick wrote on Jan 26, 2008 5:26 PM:

I enjoy seeing ignorance coming from both sides on these issues, when public meetings are involved.

While I believe particular fishing industries should be opened up, thanks to years of proper fishery management, seeing a salmon troller attempt to explain the sharp decline in salmon numbers over the past few decades, and laying all of the blame in the fresh water systems (on natural phenomena, mind you), is somewhat amusing. Since the dawn of time, salmon have been dying as a result of freshwater parasites and predators. In fact, for millenia, salmon seemed to reach a proper balance... laying plenty of eggs to make up for the high percentage of lost life while going from spawning grounds to the ocean... salmon reached a nice, sustainable life cycle, and populations reached a relative balance. It was corporate salmon fishing (overfishing for much of that time) that ruined the natural balance.
I mean, if his argument had centered around freshwater pollution, sedimentary changes thanks to man's impact, or other issues, he might have had a VALID argument. But it seems that the typical defense from a south coast businessperson is to blame everyone else, or to blame nature for everything. Granted, this man's impact was likely no more than a drop in the bucket, but to blame natural phenomena is pure ignorance; dare I say, pure BS.

As for healthy coastal waters... well, the science says otherwise. The waters are healthy for particular fisheries in particular areas... but the coast of Oregon certainly isn't as healthy as it's ever been. I mean, the giant dead zone that keeps popping up off of the coast suggests that things aren't as rosy as some would like you to believe. Of course, that's obviously not the fault of fishermen... but it's there, and it's not a positive sign for the coast.

Riggs wrote on Jan 19, 2008 5:39 PM:

And not a single word about cleaning up the illegal aliens in North Bend?

Interesting......

Gil N. Etter wrote on Jan 19, 2008 2:50 PM:

Don't ever believe that your comments will have any influence on this issue. Lord Ted has spoken and his will be done. Terhune is on a "feel good tour, so that Lord Ted can say that he listened. Who knows the ocean better than those who have spent their lives earning a living on it? Why would they want to destroy it? Exactly, they don't want to destroy it and the current health of the fisheries is a testament to their good stewardship. We are on this planet to be stewards, not curators.


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