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citizen 1 wrote on Feb 15, 2008 3:34 PM:
They are very well trained and Schooled. That is what The academy is for-if you don't pass there you don't become an officer. They have all kinds of different
citizen 1 wrote on Feb 15, 2008 3:33 PM:
Mr. Wilson-
who hires these officers are the people of this community and very thorough background checks are done by the FBI and the state of oregon police.
who hires these officers are the people of this community and very thorough background checks are done by the FBI and the state of oregon police.
citizen 1 wrote on Feb 15, 2008 3:29 PM:
Not one of our 5 patrol officers has any kind of ego, they all are professional,caring officers putting their lives on the line for us. They also are doing alot to get drugs and criminals out of our community!!!!!
Bad Disc Already? wrote on Feb 15, 2008 9:43 AM:
I was just reading thru all these comments and OH MY! I for one am neutral, I was not there so I cant say what happened. But have they even mentioned or considered Mr Fostor's medical records? Maybe he already had disc problems, I know I do and if I even move wrong sometimes my disc herniate. So maybe it was just a plain "ACCIDENT"
jojo wrote on Feb 13, 2008 11:11 AM:
I don't know the police that are involve nor do I know the citzen that was under arrest either. so i am neterual but I think we all should consider that he did resist arrest.
When an officer says you are under arrest or even wants to talk to you at this point you need to follow his instructions. They are trained to use force when you don't follow their instructions.
The questions does remain : did they use more force than they had to BUT he resisted arrest and was not following instructions. the more he resists the more force they would have to use.
this is just logical
When an officer says you are under arrest or even wants to talk to you at this point you need to follow his instructions. They are trained to use force when you don't follow their instructions.
The questions does remain : did they use more force than they had to BUT he resisted arrest and was not following instructions. the more he resists the more force they would have to use.
this is just logical
MR.Wilson wrote on Feb 11, 2008 9:25 PM:
What a terrible thing to happen. look deeper into the problem.Who hires these cowboys and what background checks are there? No matter right or wrong the good people of coquille will pay for this mans care for the rest of his life.Ask your city council about this is it a badge and gun and off you go crime fighter. If it were a larger city and the people were more aware of there rights this wouldnt get swept under the rug. I am a law abidding peace loveing person. Lived here all my life have seen the downward trend in the quality of public saftey ego driven and not knowing the law no wonder there are looked down on. Who will be the next? Why is it in my town know drug dealers roam the streets. Yet people are pulled over and harrased over petty miner things. Is it about the money? thank for this forum. Remember to stick up for your rights if we dont this is only going to get worse. MR. Wilson
no lumberjacks here wrote on Feb 11, 2008 8:36 AM:
Steve Arrant...One difference between a doctor and a policeman is that doctors are in private practice and police are public servants. A review board for public good should should be comprised of members of the community who are both in that profession as well as those who are not, especially when there is a controversy. That just makes sense. There are many plain, everyday, lowly citizens who are very bright and could understand right from wrong, legal vs. illegal. Very few of the comments here have been made by "some clueless ignorant cop haters".
Around these parts we call them loggers, not lumberjacks. With a few clicks of the mouse and a little reading will show you that the timber dollars are not handouts.
Around these parts we call them loggers, not lumberjacks. With a few clicks of the mouse and a little reading will show you that the timber dollars are not handouts.
Steve Arrant wrote on Feb 11, 2008 3:39 AM:
Hey Alan OR96, Where do you suggest the Chief get these super ninja's? All Oregon Police are trained in basic defensive and take down tactics. It takes years of dedicated drill to be a Marshal arts master. Will you pay the bill to recruit and keep these super ninja's? And who in his right mind would take the low pay to work in a community that hates its police force. Oh thats right, if the US goverment had not taken the timber dollar handout away it would be in the budget. Maybe, just maybe, the criminals should move elswhere, so the super ninja cops there can take them down without injuring a combative suspect or they could just comply with the lawful orders of a police officer doing his job trying to keep you safe.
Not doing my job?? wrote on Feb 10, 2008 4:26 PM:
“Review Board Needed” sounds like a good idea. I think the members should be educated on police functions, responsibilities, policy/procedures and of course Oregon Revised Statutes to be able to review incidents properly. I believe this is possible, given the applicant is of good moral standing, no criminal record and would be willing to receive such training. I also believe this would also help someone who has the impression that the local law enforcement members are not doing their jobs. Realistically, I could not review another person’s occupation, fairly or impartially without knowing how it should be conducted or operated?
Harassment is a misdemeanor, and you are subject to arrest. However this crime by itself, one is usually cited or referred to the District Attorney. When the nature of the Harassment is domestic in nature (meaning adult subjects related by blood, marriage, sexual intimacy or prior cohabitants) the aggressor(s) are often arrested to ensure their separation from the victim and prevent the potential for an assault to occur. If someone hears of a charge, or reads something they disagree with, by all means contact the District Attorney’s Office for clarification as opposed trying to insult or incite others.
Harassment is a misdemeanor, and you are subject to arrest. However this crime by itself, one is usually cited or referred to the District Attorney. When the nature of the Harassment is domestic in nature (meaning adult subjects related by blood, marriage, sexual intimacy or prior cohabitants) the aggressor(s) are often arrested to ensure their separation from the victim and prevent the potential for an assault to occur. If someone hears of a charge, or reads something they disagree with, by all means contact the District Attorney’s Office for clarification as opposed trying to insult or incite others.
Steve Arrant wrote on Feb 10, 2008 2:28 PM:
As far as Review Board needed is concerned, How would you like a surgon having a lumberjack look over his shoulder and second guess everything he did. A review board is a great idea, but must be staffed by people who know something about criminals and police tactics, NOT some clueless ignorant cop haters.
Review board Needed! wrote on Feb 8, 2008 9:13 PM:
This incident has brought a lot of things to a head. Coos County NEEDS a civilian review board that oversees ALL Coos County Police Agencies.
I saw a few weeks ago a man was arrested for Domestic Harassment. Excuse me can ANY officer tell me the statute for "Domestic Harassment"? It does not exist.
What is wrong with Coos County Citizens??? Wake up the police are not doing their jobs.
I saw a few weeks ago a man was arrested for Domestic Harassment. Excuse me can ANY officer tell me the statute for "Domestic Harassment"? It does not exist.
What is wrong with Coos County Citizens??? Wake up the police are not doing their jobs.
COQILLA wrote on Feb 8, 2008 11:58 AM:
RC: I too have experienced excessive force that was totally uncalled for. Next time I WILL FIGHT BACK. I do not deserve to be hurt by anyone. I do not hurt others and I expect the same in return.
RC wrote on Feb 8, 2008 11:40 AM:
I have read each and every comment on this blog, and I think for those of you who have never violated the law, good for you, but for the rest of us, we have a slightly different perspective on the law enforcement tactics and thinking. I was arrested 2 1/2 years ago for a non-alcohol-related driving incident. I was ordered to step out of the vehicle and lay face down on the dirt driveway with my hands stretched out to each side, which I immediately did. The arresting officer jammed his knee into the base of my neck, grinding my face and ear into the rocks and gravel in the driveway. It was obvious that I had surrendered. It was excessive and overly zealous on the officers part. I am a woman. It was an elude, not murder, not assault. I didn't hit any vehicles. It was late at night. I was in the wrong, and I admit it. It was unnecessary excessive force. If I hadn't planned on surrendering, I would not have pulled over in the first place. It is noteworthy that after the fact, the officer that wrote the official police report embellished the incident to a point that he really should give up his night job and go into fictional writing because there was very little that resembled the truth in that report. If you citizens that have spotless records want to continue to hide your heads in the sand with delusions that there is a going to be any accuracy in the reports or the findings, don't count on it.
CONFUSED wrote on Feb 8, 2008 11:20 AM:
CITIZEN1-Did you see Mr. Foster swing at the police? NOT!!!!
citizen 1 wrote on Feb 8, 2008 9:30 AM:
FrequentCoquilleVisitor- can't take the blame when you did nothing wrong! If this man is so old and fragile, then maybe he shouldn't have taken a swing at the officer and resisted-the cops did their job!
LORI wrote on Feb 7, 2008 3:29 PM:
VOICE OF REASON: Yes, you are right. Police have the right to protect themselves AND SO DO CITIZENS!!!!
Voice of Reason wrote on Feb 7, 2008 9:48 AM:
Why are people so quick to blame a police officer? The fact that every police involved incident is treated as a crime is ridicules. Police officers are supposed to uphold our laws and detain/arrest those who violate our laws. If someone resists arrest they do so at their own risk. When police officers use a common take down move they have no knowledge of a suspects predisposed medical condition. A police officer has the right to protect themselves as well as the community.
Alan OR96 wrote on Feb 7, 2008 12:37 AM:
Todays law enforcement officers are over militarized and under trained in the marshal arts. I have seen what a well trained enforcement officer in the marshal arts can do to restrain an individual with great ease. Eagle Point had such on officer in Robert Walker who is now retired. It would be wise of the chief of Police of Coquille to look real hard at training in the marshal arts to control individuals who have other ideas of where they want to go. Current State Police training is lacking they apply HARD treatment which leads to mistakes we now see in this incident. The marshal arts apply controlled higher thought level use of force. Officers trained the marshal arts are better able to control situations with out putting the city in harms way for law suits which effects it's citizens with higher insurance rates. You can damm well bet there will be a law suit here and there should be because your officers are under trained. It's easy to turn your police force into simi-military troops
who looks and acts like the military you get what you pay for.
Time to hire someone to come in and train your troops oops police officers to better handle themselves using the marshal arts. Using Sate Police tactics is asking for trouble and now you have it citizens of Coquille.
who looks and acts like the military you get what you pay for.
Time to hire someone to come in and train your troops oops police officers to better handle themselves using the marshal arts. Using Sate Police tactics is asking for trouble and now you have it citizens of Coquille.
Nursey Girl wrote on Feb 6, 2008 8:00 PM:
VERY Sad case all around...
Thank you to "THE WORLD" for allowing us to be Americans, by providing us the opportunity to exercise our Freedom of Speech, and the option to vent..
Our punctuation and grammer are incidential to our fears, feelings
and concerns for persons on both sides who have families that will be impacted by this event, as will the main characters of this story.
Thank you to "THE WORLD" for allowing us to be Americans, by providing us the opportunity to exercise our Freedom of Speech, and the option to vent..
Our punctuation and grammer are incidential to our fears, feelings
and concerns for persons on both sides who have families that will be impacted by this event, as will the main characters of this story.
WORLD NEWSPAPER? wrote on Feb 6, 2008 2:35 PM:
It's sad that a newspaper submitted an article like this and not giving the pros and cons of all the facts and details surrounding this arrest. I would bet after it is all said and done an apology will be forth right and coming from the world newspaper to the coquille police department for allegations that could hurt the police involved. Resisting Arrest means exactly that. Resisting Arrest! There is NO WAY to determine the outcome of someone’s condition when their fighting with an officer and them trying to subdue the individual. Let some of these critics writing in try it out sometime and see if there is a better way to take a hostile person in custody without putting your hands on them. Freedom of speech has obvious restrictions like for example incitement, sedition, defamation, slander, libel, and blasphemy. Reporters that work for a paper should get ALL the facts before submitting an article like this to the general public and also creating a "BLOG" that tears a community appart!
Jason wrote on Feb 5, 2008 10:34 PM:
For all those who are so quick to put the blame on the officers involved, have you ever heard the saying, "It's better to be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt"? Because that's all most of you who are attacking the Coquille Officers and law enforcement in general are doing is displaying your ignorance. I wasn't there. I don't have the facts. That's why I'll wait for the results of the investigation before making any judgements. Personally, I think the reason so many of you are anti-law enforcement is because you know, deep down, you don't have the courage or fortitude to be in law enforcement.
FrequentCoquilleVisitor wrote on Feb 5, 2008 7:35 PM:
Well I think that the cops did take it a bit too far with taking him down. Considering his age. I mean my dad is 50 yrs old and just rolled his ankle last week and it's taken him a week to get back up on it. Older people are more fragile and Cops are harsh sometimes. I think that The Coquille PD need to think about things and well not saying anything at the meeting was bad on their part..I do hope they hang their heads. I like Coquille and am movin there when I can but if stuff like this keeps happening that I am staying away from there. I feel sorry for the family and the pain that they are having to deal with. That's a spendy drive back and forth to Eugene. From what I have heard Coquille PD never takes the blame for anything they always blame the suspect. TAKE UR BLAME FOR WHAT U DID AND DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!
Brenda wrote on Feb 4, 2008 4:44 PM:
Horrific, Feeling. Let's focus on spelling errors instead of the issue at hand, that should take the focus off of the "Broken Neck"!!! Should we focus on spelling and grammar or Mr. Foster and the Coquille Police Department? Remember there is a mans life at stake.
speller wrote on Feb 4, 2008 2:53 PM:
is it too much?...Oh Big Deal. Words are easily misspelled while typing...the content is still readable. Get over it!
is it too much? wrote on Feb 4, 2008 2:32 PM:
Is it too much to ask that posters re-read their comments and employ spell-check? When poor grammar and spelling are used, it magnifies ignorance and lessens the validity of the comments being made.
Brenda wrote on Feb 2, 2008 7:59 PM:
COQUILLE, Spoken like a true Coquille Police Officer.... No thanks, I think I'll stay! I'd be willing to bet I've lived in Coquille longer than you've been alive, and from what i've seen from our local force, you're right, maybe I should become an Officer, if you lose your job because of police brutality, then maybe I'll apply!! Sounds like you're taking it personally. Feelin guilty? It was simply my opinion as a citizen, no need for name calling.
Coquille wrote on Feb 1, 2008 9:03 PM:
Brenda if you don't like Coquille then move or become an Officer yourself and risk your life for ungrateful, quick to judge, back seat driver people like yourself.
Gun Powder & Lead wrote on Feb 1, 2008 5:12 PM:
I say both parties are guilty.... There needs to be a investigation by the state... not by the local PD/DA Office. It needs to be a state involvement. The local police do not have the training that a bigger city would have. Like NYC, LA, Las Vegas, Houston and other major cities who have constant training. Not just Coquille's PD but all Coos County PD needs to be under investigation.
As for Foster... incident until proven guilty. As for him now... he's between a death/jail and a hard rock.
As for Foster... incident until proven guilty. As for him now... he's between a death/jail and a hard rock.
Thomas wrote on Feb 1, 2008 2:39 PM:
It is important to keep in mind when commenting that Mr. Foster is only ALLEGED to have resisted arrest, and is presumed innocent of that charge until proven guilty. The address in this article is wrong, and the real site is within a stone's throw of the courthouse, which helps make the official version of what is supposed to have transpired appear very odd? I hope he recovers to testify, and that other witnesses come forward.
Nick wrote on Feb 1, 2008 2:13 PM:
Discussted should do a bit of research on the McDonalds coffee case. Though I agree personal responsibility must be taken into account (and so did the law, as her award was significantly reduced from the amount publicized in the media to something reasonable, all things considered... people are too lazy to research that part of the case, though), gross negligence from a corporation (which was a proven FACT with the McDonalds case) should put some responsibility on the company.
Discussted wrote on Feb 1, 2008 12:34 PM:
My comment to "Unfortunate": Just what we need another "Law" suit in the court system. Sounds like you've had lots of experience. We can hardly afford to live now because of all the frivilous past lawsuits. I'm sure you're aware that we all pay more for everything just because someone was stupid enough to put hot coffee between their legs and blamed the fast food restaurant for when it spilled and burned her. This person doesn't deserve pity or money. All of us will be paying for him the rest of his life with our tax dollars! As for the officers, none of us know exactly the circumstances or the extent of force used. I commend them on a job well done! In my eyes they're hero's on a daily basis. Most of us don't have the fortitude to do what they do. I'm sure the two lady's still have nightmares too having been victim's of this person's anger. Think of the anquish and mental strain they are living with. Believe me, you don't get over something like that easily.
Come on.. wrote on Feb 1, 2008 11:02 AM:
Well I have been reading all the comments and all I can say is, get real people...Im willing to bet that 99% of all of you with negative comments about the police have at least once been in trouble with the law, as have I. I have NEVER had a police officer treat me bad when i wasnt doing anything illegal! if you break the law, you will have consequences!! Not that a broken neck is fair, but come on, accidents happen. bottom line: had he not scared the living crap out of two women and resisted arrest he would still be home and healthy today!!!!! I do not believe for one minute the police meant to hurt him, if he wouldnt of put himself in the position to be taken down there wouldnt have been room for an accident!
It's really pretty black and white people..
It's really pretty black and white people..
GET REAL wrote on Jan 31, 2008 10:20 PM:
To UNFORTUNATE, Thats a great idea then not only will the Foster Family have medical bills they will also have lawyer fees which will not get paid. The the Foster family WILL NOT get any money from the city, county, or the state because the offciers were justified and used less force then what is allowed when someone takes a swing at an officer.
Brenda wrote on Jan 31, 2008 8:52 PM:
I think it's a terrible thing that the police in Coquille would do something so herrific when arresting someone. I don't think that Mr. Foster could have put up such a fight that it took 2 healthy officer's to take him down and break his neck, and further more, isn't it standard procedure for the officer to use his or her forearm while the suspect is down, rather than stomping on the back of ones neck! Personally I don't believe that we even need a city police force in Coquille, when we have the county seat right here. Lord knows the only thing they do is pass out traffic violations, since there is no crime in Coquille, oh wait, unless you consider murder a crime, but then you get away with that! Case and point; Leah Freeman.
Beaniebaby wrote on Jan 31, 2008 7:55 PM:
The same officers you condem, may save your or a loved ones life.ARE YOU ALL RETARDED? Innocent untill PROVEN GUILTY,Goes for both sides.
unfortunate wrote on Jan 30, 2008 3:29 PM:
I am very sad for his family! No matter if the man resisted an arrest, the amount of force the officers gave his man is NOT called for! FOR HIS FAMILY- I would take a copy of The World article and the police report and hire yourself the best lawyer possible and take the state through a lawsuit. I encourage this! Trust me...
coastal friend wrote on Jan 30, 2008 2:08 PM:
I would like to ask the newspaper to put a poll opinion question that readers
can respond to this very hot topic.
Question could be:
Do you favor the police action or feel for the man who resisted arrest.?
Would be very interesting to see it broke down in this fashion.Other papers do this on a topic every day.
can respond to this very hot topic.
Question could be:
Do you favor the police action or feel for the man who resisted arrest.?
Would be very interesting to see it broke down in this fashion.Other papers do this on a topic every day.
THINKS KID IS DUMB! wrote on Jan 29, 2008 2:53 AM:
You have no facts that this man did any of these things...it appears this community has a problem with police!! It does not take a rocket scientist to see this!!! How many rural towns do you see form a commitee to protect residents from the ones that should be protecting you! I havent heard a word about a neighborhood watch to keep this "criminal" off the street!! give me a break!!! Its obvious there is problems with the whole bunch and I cant wait to see it come out!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK THE WORLD!!! Show people this man is a person!
SOCC kid wrote on Jan 27, 2008 9:10 PM:
I think it's horrible that The World is making such a big deal about this guy. I have no sympathy for criminals and my lack of sympathy turns to even greater anger and disgust when they resist arrest. As citizens, shouldn't we be more concerned for our safety than showing pity to criminals? If my own grandfather would've done what this man did, I would've personally thrown him to the ground to protect her...and I wouldn't feel sorry about it, even if it killed him. The safety of the innocent is more important than the danger of showing pity to criminals.
Akami wrote on Jan 26, 2008 6:25 PM:
For those of you bad mouthing Mr. Foster, assume that he did not in any way resist arrest and was innocent of the alleged crime. What now your opinion about the conduct of the Coquille police?
For those of you bad mouthing the Coquille police, assume that Mr. Foster had a precondition that made his neck prone to injury by the slightest restraint, and that he violently resisted arrest. What now you opinion about the conduct of the Coquille police?
The bottom line. Don’t give any credence to press releases by the authorities nor to the opinionated comments by uninformed posters. The City of Coquille will be sued and the truths about this incident will eventually be established.
For those of you bad mouthing the Coquille police, assume that Mr. Foster had a precondition that made his neck prone to injury by the slightest restraint, and that he violently resisted arrest. What now you opinion about the conduct of the Coquille police?
The bottom line. Don’t give any credence to press releases by the authorities nor to the opinionated comments by uninformed posters. The City of Coquille will be sued and the truths about this incident will eventually be established.
paige wrote on Jan 26, 2008 12:41 PM:
i am discussed by the force that these officers used. the fact of the matter is this, how much force does it take to break someones neck. i am sure that these officers will be cleared that is how it works. the judge is not a judge, he listens to what the da has to say and follows the sentence that they put place. just as the investigation will of course find that these officers acted within their job description. i find it offensive to read what the media has to say about the victim and his past arrest. does it really matter what his prior record is. as if that matters. so what the media is trying to do is take away from what the officers have done by making out the victim to be deserving of this treatment because he had prior run ins with law enforcement. discusting
Linda wrote on Jan 25, 2008 4:36 PM:
Response to "T" Very well said. I think you summed it up perfectly!
T wrote on Jan 24, 2008 9:02 PM:
All I want to say is I'm a big fan of the police force. I have police friends and I appreciate all the good things they do. However, there is no reason to use enough force to break someones neck, isn't that why they are trained to use tazers? Although I heard they hurt like hell, I think he would have rather been tazed than have his neck broken. There are others ways to get the criminal to cooperate. Accidents do happen, but I'm really surprised that those two didn't take a little time off after this sort of incident. If they have a heart they would care about what they did this to man (no matter what his criminal background is). I feel horrible for Foster (and his family) and I don't care what someone's criminal background is unless they are a rapist or murderer, they don't deserve to have their neck broke. I feel bad for the victim and also for Coquille police for allowing this to happen. And for those people complaining about people writing things and not knowing the facts, this is a BLOG and opinion area, if you don't like it, don't read it. People are free to their opinion. I quit reading after awhile since there were so many, but I think EVERYONE has some sort of valid point.
Marv wrote on Jan 24, 2008 1:46 PM:
I would think it would be incumbent upon those who have read police reports about this arrest to not report what is in them while an investigation is ongoing. Keep in mind that these reports were written by the two officers and not Mr. Foster, so those who are in law enforcement have a bias judgement as to what happened.
WOW!! wrote on Jan 24, 2008 11:13 AM:
After reading just a couple of these comments I scrolled right to the bottom, Many people are taken this area of comment and turned it into a chat/arguement area. That in its self is sad. No one knows the facts here. Was anyone there? Did anyone see Mr Foster Resist? Has anyone seen actual documents that he was convicted of the charges ie. violating a no contact order! uhhh I say not, in fact he was never found guilty of that there for he is innocent!! hmmm makes me wonder how many other things they say about Mr Foster is not true. Does anyone know why his ribs were broke? Could it be a injury recieved at work while working hard everyday as it appeared he did? Has anyone seen Mr Foster? 57 years old 5"4 130 pounds with broken ribs, makes me wonder how much he did resist. Like I said no one knows exactly what Happen and I believe it will come out. My heart goes out to the family that will have to care for him, and for Mr Foster that is obviously going to have problems for the rest of his life. Mr Foster was someones Dad, Uncle, brother, friend, Many Im sure are effected by this. Ive seen high speed chases end in crashing into poles, trees etc. and not come out with a broken neck, does anyone know what that intails? NO FUNCTION!! No one deserves that.
KB wrote on Jan 24, 2008 9:54 AM:
The whole problem boils down to this in Coos County. First of all the cops are trigger happy, so don't pull out a rake or a felt pen. The criminals never spend any time for thier crimes, so they know what they can get away with. The whole justice system in Coos County needs to be replaced. The criminals should do the time for the crime, when a judge gives a person 5 years, then they should serve 5 years.
The cops are probably afraid so they act out by using too much force. The whole County needs a check up!
The cops are probably afraid so they act out by using too much force. The whole County needs a check up!
KARLI wrote on Jan 24, 2008 4:39 AM:
Before any of you judge, get the facts. Its easy to judge, and say what you would have done when you've never been it that position or weren't there when it happened. I read all of the officers reports, and as law enforcement myself I can honestly say that I wouldn't have done anything different. They did what was REQUIRED of them for the circumstances that the suspect presented. The suspect dictated the situation, and the officers simply reacted using their training and experience. This was not a fight. They only used a simple take down move that is utilized to minimize injury and resistance, so the officers can quickly and efficiently place him in custody. We dont know the suspects previous medical conditions that could have been a contributor. I believe that this is one of those odd ball cases where an accidental injury occured during the deployment of a trained move. I'm sorry that his injury resulted and I wish him a speedy recovery. I hope that through all of this a lesson was learned. Dont resist arrest. More importantly: dont commit crimes that prompt your arrest!
emtcity.com wrote on Jan 23, 2008 7:16 PM:
to dave, the 2 officers may be certified but not licenced medical professionals. I was under the impression that a certified emt tries to keep people going until they get to a doctor " A licenced medical proffesional" not other emts. you see sir I too am a trained emt but not a licenced medical professional.
You my friend, should turn in your EMT card and get spell check. From: A pre-hospital care medical professional.
You my friend, should turn in your EMT card and get spell check. From: A pre-hospital care medical professional.
just a reader wrote on Jan 23, 2008 3:37 PM:
I wasn't there, didn't see it happen but by the article I believe that excessive force was used that caused this mans injuries. Not only is he suffering from but his family also. May God bless them all. My major problem is What purpose did it serve for the World to smear this mans criminal history for all to see? Let's see, between '04 & '05 he was cited four times for driving while suspended. In '04 he was convicted of contempt of court/violation of a restraining order. And then harassment and criminal mishief. All the other things that made your story of this man look like a very very bad person, he was acquitted of! So why did you even print that?? I just hope that this family can make it through this tragedy that was placed on them be it accident or a brute act of force at the hands of these officers. As I said at the start, I was not there, and I did not see this go down, but by the article I believe the officers were at fault and the World has fueled all these flames.
lyn wrote on Jan 23, 2008 7:52 AM:
to clarence, I loved your comment I had forgotten if you are being cornered or questioned on the streets or even in your own house, what ever you do do not pull a sharpie out it is a death sentence in this county.
lyn wrote on Jan 23, 2008 7:43 AM:
to dave, the 2 officers may be certified but not licenced medical professionals. I was under the impression that a certified emt tries to keep people going until they get to a doctor " A licenced medical proffesional" not other emts. you see sir I too am a trained emt but not a licenced medical professional.
DOWNSPARKY wrote on Jan 22, 2008 3:45 PM:
They learned the move at the "Police Academy" Which one was it? Police Academy II or Police Academy III?
Concerned wrote on Jan 22, 2008 1:51 PM:
Whatever happened to minding your P's and Q's? It seems like everyone is bashing on someone they don't even know who it is! "A man reaps what s/he sows" It is just disgusting to see that everyone is deciding to just have a bash fest here on the Internet!!! Sad. Sad world out there!! It just breaks my heart to see this in the Newspaper and look what it has become, here let me bash you, no I can bash you better!!! It is just plain disgusting!! All you people on here are acting like little children and it is sad to see that!!! STOP BASHING and live a life that is peaceful, not in rage! Thank you!!!
No Name wrote on Jan 22, 2008 10:41 AM:
How many people wrote in about Mr. Foster and the the two cowards who attacked him (2 on 1)?
And the World Rag did not allow their Comments to be Published here!
Shame, Shame, Shame, that only those Comments Selected by the "Person in control" selects which of those
Comments are weeded out or included herein!
"Hiel, World Rag!"
And the World Rag did not allow their Comments to be Published here!
Shame, Shame, Shame, that only those Comments Selected by the "Person in control" selects which of those
Comments are weeded out or included herein!
"Hiel, World Rag!"
woundedknee wrote on Jan 22, 2008 4:24 AM:
Okay folks get it out of your systems. You folks are putting more energy into this,then anything i've ever seen.I as well know the officers involved (and their families). I don't believe for a minute that either would harm someone just for kicks and giggles. I will tell you this not any of us have a right to judge the police or Mr.Foster. However what it boils down to if any of us ever needed help we would run screaming like little @itches to the police for help. Yes there were circumstances prior to this incident which could have led to Mr.Foster's injuries in fact he could have sneezed and possibley broken his neck.I think people live in a dream world, Coos County has alot of alcohol and drug abuse.These ingreidents dont'mix well with the law. Also stop being hypocrites talking trash then saying let us pray. How bout we just pray for a better world and peace.By the way they dont use iron lungs any more they are called ventilators,And people dont blink for us.That would mean he was brain dead and i do not beleive that to be a fact.
You know what they say about people who live in glass houses.......
LET HE /SHE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE................think about it.
You know what they say about people who live in glass houses.......
LET HE /SHE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE................think about it.
Confused? wrote on Jan 21, 2008 6:27 PM:
Ok, maybe it was an accident. Maybe, they didn't mean to break his neck. The fact remains, they did, and now Mr. Foster & his family have to suffer the consequences. So if it was indeed an accident, should they be held responsible? Yes. They are trained professionals, and they should be able to takedown a suspect without any problem. They were negligent in the manner they acted. In order to break a person’s neck they would have had to slam him down pretty hard, and in a manner intended to cause injury. Did they intend to break his neck, probably not, but at the same time their reckless actions caused this injury. Regular citizens have been prosecuted for accidents, the law says in these cases the only thing missing is intent. I.E. A man is speeding down a highway recklessly; he loses control and crashes into another killing two people. The man didn't intend to kill two people, but his negligent actions caused the deaths. According to the law, he is still responsible. So maybe the officers didn't intend on breaking his neck, but their negligent actions broke his neck and they should be held responsible. If you or I did something that resulted in the injury of one of their family members, I am sure they would want us held responsible. Bottom-line, when you are a trained professional there is a standard of care to be upheld in every case. Unfortunately the standard of care these officers showed was very dismal.
Magic School Bus wrote on Jan 21, 2008 5:31 PM:
If you resist arrest, expect to get some for of punishment / injuries
carnac wrote on Jan 21, 2008 4:06 PM:
SUMMARY wrote "we know which cops are receving favors from teenage girls in their squad cars". Yes, and some are stopping and hitting on older women too. It's hard to think that our police are beyond reproach after it happens to your family. Good luck to anyone who bothers to complain, because I predict nothing will be done.
Just Another Joe wrote on Jan 21, 2008 11:31 AM:
PRAY FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED!!!
Justin wrote on Jan 20, 2008 11:30 PM:
Introductions aside I have not lived in Coos County for several years now and for the most part your posting make me sick. I would say that for the majority of the postings on this page I do not believe that there has been a handful that even could begin to understand the decisions that Officers are required to make every day. Is it possible that a few may stray to the “dark Side”? Of course it is possible, yet the way I am hearing the majority of you is that not a single Officer is competent, educated, trustworthy, or in the least bit reliable. That is not only as a Police Officer yet as a person. The title Police Officer for you is as insulting as any other title you could think of. As an Officer for a small city of over 600,0000 it amazes me that no matter where you are the Police suck and after every bad situation that takes place it is automatically ass-u-med (try and remember you third grade spelling list and you will understand the -‘s) that the officer used “excessive force”. How could any of you know this? Are you person that would resist arrest? No! Then I would be willing to say that you will never have to experience being placed on the ground during a police encounter. If you don’t like the Police don’t call them. If you don’t want to be arrested don’t break the law. If you don’t want to be thrown to the ground don’t resist arrest.
If you can do it better put down the ding-dong and diet soda, apply for the job and do it better. It is thankless, dangerous and the pay will never be enough. Yet if you can do the job that every one of us in Law Enforcement apply its an equal opportunity employment profession. Be prepared to be sued for nearly every action you take, be shunned in the public and lose you name. You will forever be introduces as my friend the Cop. Hundreds of thousands of other honorable people do it every day, despite the constant badgering of people like the ones posting on this article. Let the investigators do their jobs prior to making off the cuff remarks about things that you yourself are not willing to do and do not understand.
When everyone else runs from the gunshots only two professions are trained and dedicated enough to run towards them: The Police and our Military.
If you can do it better put down the ding-dong and diet soda, apply for the job and do it better. It is thankless, dangerous and the pay will never be enough. Yet if you can do the job that every one of us in Law Enforcement apply its an equal opportunity employment profession. Be prepared to be sued for nearly every action you take, be shunned in the public and lose you name. You will forever be introduces as my friend the Cop. Hundreds of thousands of other honorable people do it every day, despite the constant badgering of people like the ones posting on this article. Let the investigators do their jobs prior to making off the cuff remarks about things that you yourself are not willing to do and do not understand.
When everyone else runs from the gunshots only two professions are trained and dedicated enough to run towards them: The Police and our Military.
Steven wrote on Jan 20, 2008 7:02 PM:
If that would have been my mother he went after, he would not be as lucky as he is right now.
It is not the fault of the officers that he suffered these injuries, it is his own fault. He is the one who dictated the force the police had to use.
It is not the fault of the officers that he suffered these injuries, it is his own fault. He is the one who dictated the force the police had to use.
Margie wrote on Jan 20, 2008 6:01 PM:
Outraged comes to mind. These are two class "C" Midemenors. And while we are on the topic so are the compiling lists that they made of past offences. I have been angry since hearing this on my local news. Over kill plain and simple. The man was not armed and they were there for a "cracked winsheild" now he is on an iron lung? There is something wrong with this.
banchsee wrote on Jan 20, 2008 3:15 PM:
What the hell... But I do know one of the police man and I have known for 18 years and I know that he wound'nt hurt anyone for any reason you should turn the clock around and know someone before anybody talks about them......
The commissioner wrote on Jan 20, 2008 3:01 PM:
Thank you! every one, for taking the pressure off us with this Damn LNG thing. Keep all your efforts here so you'll stay preoccupied. Keep up the good work, and stay here.
Tim Petrone wrote on Jan 20, 2008 2:48 PM:
First of all...the "take down" IS normal Police procedure...but it normally doesn't cause paralysis, or cracked vertebrae. It's obvious that the cops were a little excessive in this case. Was it intentional?...doubtful. They were trying to arrest a known criminal and he resisted...they got frustrated and took him down a little too hard. Still, these things happen and the guy shouldn't have resisted in the first place. He knew the risks. Should the officers be punished? Not really. Re-trained on the "take down" maybe...possibly suspended with pay for awhile. Punished? No. It sounds like an honest accident. I'm not on the side of the cops, either. Just a completely objective outsider trying to look at the situation in an unbiased way.
Tim wrote on Jan 20, 2008 12:29 PM:
Just think, If I know that I have just committed a crime and I know that if I were to fight back, well maby I do get hurt or God forbid the worse thing get killed for fighting back its not me that did something wrong IT WAS THE COP. This is the thinking of to many people criminals these days. This is the same as our Military. they send in "trained" Officers/troops to take care of a problem and oh by the way, you cant do this and you cant do that. The thinking of the criminal if they come at me all I have to do is fight a little and they will let me go I can get away with "robbery/Smashing a windshield, breaking the law, Rape Molisting a child(will you get my point) Law Officers are there to protect YOU and ME and if someone breaks the law they should SUFFER the conciquences. If they fight back or run they are in THE WRONG not the cop. No Matter what The Cop Should be Right
Summary wrote on Jan 20, 2008 12:26 PM:
... 200 + messages and what's the point? its all less about this one case and more about a deeply felt frustration over unsolved murders, missing persons, corrupt police officers, and drug abusers/criminals. you don't have to be on one side or the other to realize that I think we've all just had enough. our communities are too small. we know who killed who, we know which cops are receving favors from teenage girls in their squad cars, we know who to stay away from. Something needs to change in/for this county...... perhaps the new d.a. can create a change? our fabulous commissioners? or perhaps we're all screwed.
Jamie wrote on Jan 20, 2008 10:16 AM:
It does not matter if the suspect was resisting arrest or not. The FACT of the matter is that the police used excessive force and seriously injured the man. It angers me that these officers remain on-the-job during this investigation. If the man dies what will the Chief of Police say, "Ooops, my officers accidentally killed a man". I hope the family sues the department because those responsible for this investigation are not about to hold "their own" responsible.
Potential Malcontent wrote on Jan 20, 2008 8:38 AM:
My thoughts...The officers are still working because we don't have enough officers on our force to give them administrative leave. That might be because our illustrious Chief of Police disbanded the wonderful reserve force we had when he came on board all those years ago, and Coquille is not the place most out of area officers aim for when job seeking.
Under any circumstances, I do NOT believe that officers Bryant and Webley set out that day to break this man's neck. However, I am curious to know why we had two officer's on duty on a Saturday morning, when we only have one on duty most of the time.
I believe the Major Crimes Team will do a competent investigation. I believe that Mr. Foster did resist arrest. I believe also that his "frailness" contributed to his injuries. And I am sure he could have been doing construction work with prior injuries...the nation is full of men who do just that, everyday.
I hope with all my heart that Mr. Foster recovers from his injuries. I hope that whatever the investigation reveals becomes public knowledge and that all this speculation can be put to rest. I hope we can all move on from this.
But my most fervent hope is that someone with time to spare will take a good look at the last 20 years of law enforcement incidents directly related to the Coquille PD. The public records, not the rumors or innuendo. Just the facts. Compare and contrast our police force and discover if things are different under the tutelage of our current chief.
My advice to the World newspaper...stop the bias. When the women jumped from the McCullough bridge last year, we learned all about her past. Why, so we could accept it? In this case, we learn all about Mr. Fosters criminal history. Why? To help justify the situation? I realize you don't always have a lot of information when you write your story, but that kind of filler just fuels fire.
The posts and opinions we post here are a way of mourning the continued loss of our sense of community. We are all shocked and confused that such a thing could happen, and it's a knee jerk reaction to verbally "go ballistic" and be heard. It shouldn't divide a community. People should not refer to those who disagree as the "lower half" of the community. Empathy is a natural emotion. It's ok to feel the way you feel. It's even justified to feel this way. But, lets wait for the investigation results before we condemn anyone.
Under any circumstances, I do NOT believe that officers Bryant and Webley set out that day to break this man's neck. However, I am curious to know why we had two officer's on duty on a Saturday morning, when we only have one on duty most of the time.
I believe the Major Crimes Team will do a competent investigation. I believe that Mr. Foster did resist arrest. I believe also that his "frailness" contributed to his injuries. And I am sure he could have been doing construction work with prior injuries...the nation is full of men who do just that, everyday.
I hope with all my heart that Mr. Foster recovers from his injuries. I hope that whatever the investigation reveals becomes public knowledge and that all this speculation can be put to rest. I hope we can all move on from this.
But my most fervent hope is that someone with time to spare will take a good look at the last 20 years of law enforcement incidents directly related to the Coquille PD. The public records, not the rumors or innuendo. Just the facts. Compare and contrast our police force and discover if things are different under the tutelage of our current chief.
My advice to the World newspaper...stop the bias. When the women jumped from the McCullough bridge last year, we learned all about her past. Why, so we could accept it? In this case, we learn all about Mr. Fosters criminal history. Why? To help justify the situation? I realize you don't always have a lot of information when you write your story, but that kind of filler just fuels fire.
The posts and opinions we post here are a way of mourning the continued loss of our sense of community. We are all shocked and confused that such a thing could happen, and it's a knee jerk reaction to verbally "go ballistic" and be heard. It shouldn't divide a community. People should not refer to those who disagree as the "lower half" of the community. Empathy is a natural emotion. It's ok to feel the way you feel. It's even justified to feel this way. But, lets wait for the investigation results before we condemn anyone.
Sean wrote on Jan 20, 2008 6:08 AM:
Law Enforcment in Coos County is a joke! that is the bottom line. A man killed for pulling out a sharpie, a trial happened recently over Coos Bay Tasing, get this a FORMER POLICE OFFICER! This man is paralized after police use force. PEOPLE we don't hear about half of the stuff going on here! As far as police being out there to fight crime what a joke, oh and yes their will be another CROSS WALK sting going on. Are you kidding me, we have real problems and they the two biggest police forces in the county are targeting people not yielding to pedestrians??? realize if you are a Chief of Police, the Sheriff, the DA. It is on your heads, you have the power to change it, but you don't. Washburn, Schebelli, Reeves, Rawkosi, Jackson, Paul Frasier, whoever is in Bandon and Powers this week, YOU are the problem here. You are the people that are letting this happen and you are all to blame. City Councils, County leadership you are to blame as well. Hold your Police Chiefs and Sheriff responsible! You are not doing enough I know I plan on voting for all new people in the next election. I lived in Washington and I will say I have seen what it was like to truely feel safe, a small town, a small way of life, how many of you feel safe? You have accepted this poor job of Law Enforcment because you know nothing different so before you blast me on here, let me ask you where else have you lived? If you are born and raised here, then you have no idea what I am talking about. Oh and since this is a big deal after reading all this No I am not a druggie, a meth addict, not been in trouble with the law, let alone had a speeding ticket. Just a citizen that thinks this county needs a civilian, rewiew board of the law enforcment in Coos Country!
Police Supporter wrote on Jan 20, 2008 1:53 AM:
Accidents happen, if these officers are guilty it will be proven and justice will be served. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. You are better hope these men are guilty as much S*** as you talk about them. Shame on you all. They are there to protect your community and keeps it safe from crime and all you can do it badmouth them. SHAME SHAME SHAME ON YOU!!!! Why should they protect or even want to protect your city with all the crap you talk about them
Think About It wrote on Jan 19, 2008 8:00 PM:
It was Mr. Foster's choice to resist arrest, and the other criminal acts he committed. I'm not saying he deserved the injuries he received but he is the one that chose his actions, he was not forced to make these choices. It was the officers that were forced to take the action they did. I'm sure their intent was not to cause injury, that is never an officers intent, regardless what some of you want to believe. Maybe if they would have drawn their guns and shot the man, people would then have a right to complain. They didn't shoot him or taser him, they took him to the ground because he was resisting. I'm sure the officers are upset by the outcome, regardless, again, of what some of you think, most, unfortunately not all, officers do not have the intent to harm. I wish the best for all involved.
English Teacher wrote on Jan 19, 2008 2:47 PM:
Wow, I love this anonymous stuff. This is a comment to many of the folks weighing in on the arrest gone bad. It may not mean you do not have good thoughts but why is it that some who claim to be "educated" do not know the difference between: Your and you are. Your is generally pronounced "yore" and is not the same word as "you're" which is the contraction of "you are" and when properly pronounced rhymes with "sewer" (as in sewage). The three versions of to are not interchangeable. Too is not to or two. To is not too or two, and two is not to or too. There and their and they're are also not interchangeable. They are also not pronounced the same when done correctly. It is too bad the two policemen took it upon themselves to put their training to the test with a little? too much gusto. Their actions there on Dean street may be their downfall. I say to all citizens; It could be you next. Your safety is not guaranteed when you're in the sights of a policeman who has already tried and convicted you and you are outnumbered and have little choice but to suffer the assigned penalty. The double standard allowing police to avoid responsibility in a case like this should not be allowed. The rest of the lesson is some pronounciation coaching.
Garden is not "gar-den". Garden is "gard-en" with emphasis on gard.
Student is not "stu-dent". Student is "stud-ent" (stood-ent) with emphasis on stud. Transient is not "trans-ee-ent". Transient is a French-root word and has a slurred soung when pronounced correctly - transchunt sort of, look it up in your dictionary. Jordan is "jord-an" not "jor-dan". Emphasis on the jord.
And on and on. Get your dictionary out, keep it nearby at all times, pay attention, use it (oh, I forgot, if you don't bother learning how to use it then it won't help). It does have instructions, if you take time to read them. While I am on here let me make one more point. The hands of an analog clock are generally referred to as "the big hand" and "the little hand". Many folks misinterpret "big" to mean "long", and therefore think the big hand is the minute hand, which is indeed usually longer than the hour hand. "Big" does not refer to length, rather girth. The "BIG" hand is the hour hand and the "LITTLE" hand is the minute hand. Originally big and little referred to big/hour and little/minute simply because and hour is 60 times as "big" as a minute. Where did it go wrong? Some well-meaning primary teacher who did their own interpretation because they did not pay attention when it was covered in her/his 2nd grade class.
Garden is not "gar-den". Garden is "gard-en" with emphasis on gard.
Student is not "stu-dent". Student is "stud-ent" (stood-ent) with emphasis on stud. Transient is not "trans-ee-ent". Transient is a French-root word and has a slurred soung when pronounced correctly - transchunt sort of, look it up in your dictionary. Jordan is "jord-an" not "jor-dan". Emphasis on the jord.
And on and on. Get your dictionary out, keep it nearby at all times, pay attention, use it (oh, I forgot, if you don't bother learning how to use it then it won't help). It does have instructions, if you take time to read them. While I am on here let me make one more point. The hands of an analog clock are generally referred to as "the big hand" and "the little hand". Many folks misinterpret "big" to mean "long", and therefore think the big hand is the minute hand, which is indeed usually longer than the hour hand. "Big" does not refer to length, rather girth. The "BIG" hand is the hour hand and the "LITTLE" hand is the minute hand. Originally big and little referred to big/hour and little/minute simply because and hour is 60 times as "big" as a minute. Where did it go wrong? Some well-meaning primary teacher who did their own interpretation because they did not pay attention when it was covered in her/his 2nd grade class.
It's obvious.. wrote on Jan 19, 2008 1:00 PM:
okay, lets put em on the table ..I actually went to a police academy before i went to law school. in the academy they do not teach the same LAW as is taught in LAW school. i will make another analogy. A police officer is as trained in the law, as compared to a lawyer, as a paramedic is trained in medicine as compared to a doctor. 16 weeks af ACADEMY training does NOT compare to yes, 3 years of law school, not to mention most police officers DO NOT even have the inititial 4 years of college. yes, lawyers, as a whole are MUCH more educated and also more intelligent as a whole than police officers.
flipside wrote on Jan 19, 2008 10:55 AM:
This appears in thursday's World article from the police report about what preceded the incident: "...for help in removing items from Foster’s house. While the women were on their way, Foster pursued them...". Looks like Foster was chasing after home robbers caught in the act who were trying to make their getaway with stolen property. No big surprise that he would be angry about it, and in Texas he'd be a local hero.
BBoop wrote on Jan 19, 2008 10:54 AM:
I am in agreement that the same practice that would apply to anyone else that had caused injury should have been exercised in this case. The problem being that law enforcement is "above the law" when it comes to the same procedures that a "citizen" would have to be subjected to. They should have been separated and interrogated as any other suspect. The difference is that they are the "perps" instead of suspects. Their actions are cloaked and considered justified by their positions as "peacekeepers!" If such zealousness had been attached to the Leah Freeman case, or the Jeremy Bright's case those would have been solved years ago. It is scary to think that our local law enforcement is only able to solve cases that are less serious than those that leave families without closure for decades. What a shame.
Who really cares wrote on Jan 19, 2008 9:52 AM:
"It's obvious".......You should change your moniker to; "Totally Oblivious" The only thing "Obvious" about your posts, are your underpinnings that you are superior to those whom you are addressing,or writing about. If you REALLY are a Lawyer, then you would know how "Obnoxious" your statements regarding how un-educated Police really is. A law degree is only 3 years now? Maybe at the community college. Speak to any reputable attorney and they will tell you their education was much longer than that. You imply to be educated, so what research did you do, to find out what is required of law enforcement in obtaining their certification? I think that you will find that they have extensive training in the area of Criminal Law. They are not required to know Civil Law,Torts,Courtroom Proceedure,Latin,Contracts,ect,. Your a Lawyer you know the curriculum. They all know the "Elements" of the law and how it applies to the commission of a crime. Now, we certainly cannot forget their ability to know "all" the ever changing "Case Law" that changes how some of the Basic laws are interpreted, and how it applies to their job. What about continuing education requirements, I think the term you will find is; Certification Maintenance Requirments. Your smarter than the average person I'm sure you know all this. Please keep up the posts I find great humor and enjoy reading your "obscure" points of view. To all in Public Service, keep your chin up and know that those of us who are educated know how truly important you are to us!..... A BIG THANK YOU to all military and law enforcement for keeping my rights free, so I can express my opinion, and enjoy those of others.
theopoo wrote on Jan 19, 2008 8:53 AM:
If Mr. Foster dies will the police officers get a month paid vacation as has happened so many times in the past?
Seems we will still have the fox guarding the hen house.
What would happen to people in an argument and 2 people threw one to the ground and broke his neck? Just wondering.
Seems we will still have the fox guarding the hen house.
What would happen to people in an argument and 2 people threw one to the ground and broke his neck? Just wondering.
Thomas wrote on Jan 19, 2008 8:21 AM:
to 24-7..365: Civilian ride-along observation is not a satisfactory substitute for a real civilian oversight of police activities that Coos county obviously needs. Cops investigating themselves, or the DA's committee which amounts to the same thing, is ineffective for ensuring that our public servants act in our name properly. Let's push for an independent entity to investigate incidents like this in the future, so that citizens can really know that they have a say in how their government works for them.
Richard wrote on Jan 19, 2008 2:07 AM:
to: "get back on the topic"
he was arrested therfore he was in custody, therfore he is the resposibility of the Coquille Police Department, which means the tax payers, the city of Coquille should be paying his medical bill. Once someone is arrested they cannpt be "unarrested" So if he is in custody, which they are saying he was restisting arrest, which to me says he is under arrest, well Coquiille cough up the dough and pay for this man's medical bills. Take it up with the mayor he was a cop for the county and I heard he was with some other department for a while He knows!
he was arrested therfore he was in custody, therfore he is the resposibility of the Coquille Police Department, which means the tax payers, the city of Coquille should be paying his medical bill. Once someone is arrested they cannpt be "unarrested" So if he is in custody, which they are saying he was restisting arrest, which to me says he is under arrest, well Coquiille cough up the dough and pay for this man's medical bills. Take it up with the mayor he was a cop for the county and I heard he was with some other department for a while He knows!
No Fan of John Wayne wrote on Jan 18, 2008 11:14 PM:
Perhaps the procedure in a situation involving possible criminal acts by law-enforcement personnel needs to be changed. The two officers involved in the Coquille incident should have been immediately separated, same as any suspect in any alleged crime. Then they should immediately make individual statements regarding what happened. Then they should be immediately given "lie-detector" tests based on their statements. Then they should be questioned more based on "deceptive" results of "lie detector" tests. In other words, they should be treated the same as any citizen who may be involved in an incident where grave injury is inflicted upon another, unless of course they have something to hide and choose to "lawyer-up". What am I talking about? It must be plain to see that at least one of the officers put his foot on the victim's back, just below his neck, to hold him down while handcuffing him. Question is - did the officers over-do it? Must have, it usually doesn't break anyone's neck. But it did this time. Why? Maybe the victim already had a weak spot in his neck. So what? Who is responsible then for the broken neck? Unfortunately I am predicting the citizens of Coquille will be held responsible - financially. So it is a matter of risk versus responsibility. If poor judgment is exercised by police officers under the banner of protecting themselves and it is accepted with no consequences then it will continue. It is the same as raising a child. The child knows just how far they can go because the "adult" has allowed them to go there multiple times before invoking punishment. So how fine is the line between what is needed and what is too much? Really a tough one. Maybe the poice need to be on camera at all times to protect everyone from possible poor judgment. I heard from a co-worker of mine the victim had several cracked or broken ribs. I have heard the victim attempted to resist arrest. Is that a blank check for the police to cash? At what point did the victim cease resisting? Was the police effort adjusted to match the lack of resistance? Was it necessary to hold the victim down with a foot on his neck? Hopefully the victim will live and recover and be able to testify in a court of law.
ha ha ha 16 weeks wrote on Jan 18, 2008 11:03 PM:
to you 16 weeks.. 16 and my husband is a well trained offivcer,, theres good and bad... i think every one sould think of how the officers and that family is feeling right now,,, accidents happen......
clarence wrote on Jan 18, 2008 8:58 PM:
Its really to bad the man didn't pull a sharpie out of his pocket then they would have had a better excuse
m00npenny wrote on Jan 18, 2008 6:07 PM:
It was several years ago, in CA. My sister in law just graduated from the Oakland Police Departments's Police Academy. Within her first 6 months, she started to change, became more critical of those around her, more cynical in her daily life. Then she responded to the call that changed all that. She and about 10 other cars with multiple officers arrived on scene. 4 adults were outside, the son of 2 of the adults. Chased out by a hatchet wielding teen. So far gone on PCP, that nothing could stop him. He had already murdered his sister, she was still in the house, lying in the shower where he hacked her to death. He was going to kill the adults, when they fled the home. The young man started to come out of the house, still holding his hatchet and what appeared to be .. part of his sister. He looked at the officers and said "I'll have you for dessert". He than started to charge an officer. After 6 shots, he finally dropped to the ground. Long story short, he survived and sued the individual officers and the department for "excessive" force. My sister in law resigned her position and went back to teaching. When your a cop, you have NO idea what you are walking into when you get that call.
fearful wrote on Jan 18, 2008 5:28 PM:
President ( right :) )
I bet you pronounce it nucular don't you...going by your writing I could possibly believe you are todays president. It does not matter if they are or are not real police officers for someone to understand what I was trying to say. I don't care if the newspaper is accurate or not...we are on THEIR WEBSITE to make comments on THEIR NEWS STORY. They could report that the sky is green, not an accuracy, but I still might want to comment on it.
I never claimed to be a lawyer! Maybe the real problem here is reading comprehension.
I bet you pronounce it nucular don't you...going by your writing I could possibly believe you are todays president. It does not matter if they are or are not real police officers for someone to understand what I was trying to say. I don't care if the newspaper is accurate or not...we are on THEIR WEBSITE to make comments on THEIR NEWS STORY. They could report that the sky is green, not an accuracy, but I still might want to comment on it.
I never claimed to be a lawyer! Maybe the real problem here is reading comprehension.
GET BACK ON TOPIC wrote on Jan 18, 2008 5:22 PM:
WHAT DOES ANY OF THIS HAVE TO DO WITH CARL GETTING HIS NECK BROKE. PEOPLE ARE GOING OFF ON THEIR OWN AGENDAS.
PLEASE HELP THE FOSTER FAMILY BY PRAYING FOR THEM OR HELPING THEM OUT WITH BILLS.
HAS ANY OF THESE FRIENDS OF CARL TAKEN A SECOND TO MAYBE START A FUND FOR HIM TO HELP HIS FAMILY OUT INSTEAD OF BASHING THE POLICE ALL DAY.
PUT YOUR EFFORTS IN A MORE POSTIVE DIRECTION.
THINK ABOUT IT, HARD.
PLEASE HELP THE FOSTER FAMILY BY PRAYING FOR THEM OR HELPING THEM OUT WITH BILLS.
HAS ANY OF THESE FRIENDS OF CARL TAKEN A SECOND TO MAYBE START A FUND FOR HIM TO HELP HIS FAMILY OUT INSTEAD OF BASHING THE POLICE ALL DAY.
PUT YOUR EFFORTS IN A MORE POSTIVE DIRECTION.
THINK ABOUT IT, HARD.
President ( right :) ) wrote on Jan 18, 2008 4:43 PM:
Mr Fearful do you really think you can make an educated comment on the incident based only on what the news paper has said. How many times does the news miss quote, leave out, and add their own stuff. Come on if you really have a law degree you can even agree on that. And I highly doubt that most of these people are realy you they say they are. These officers may have been wrong and they may have been justified, but do not judge law enforcement off what anyone could claim to be a cop a write in this blog. I'v read the comments by Deputy and I will bet a million dollars he has never or will never be in law enforcement.
carnac wrote on Jan 18, 2008 4:37 PM:
FAMILY: If you really are of Mr. Foster's family, then it is heartening to know that the services of an outside of Coos county lawyer has been obtained, as the system here is definitely stacked against you. It is easy to predict that this case will be long, expensive, and discouraging for you no matter the outcome, so best wishes and hang in there to you and Carl.
FACTS wrote on Jan 18, 2008 4:34 PM:
THE ONLY TRUE FACT, If the Officers themself said they used to much force and caused Mr. Fosters injuries, the pro-police would still argue that it was a lie. And if MR. Foster himself said he was in the wrong and the officers did nothing wrong, the anti-police would still argue that it was a lie. POINT everyone here has a side with personal agenda and no matter what was the truth the other side would never thing that it was.
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