Waiver delays NB's virtual school concept

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Sunday, January 13, 2008 | 12 comment(s)

Leadership unclear for new online academy

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NORTH BEND — The North Bend School District wants to become the second district in Oregon to establish a virtual charter school catering to students throughout the state. Designed by K12 Inc., an established Web-based curriculum company in Virginia, the Oregon Virtual Academy’s structure and curriculum would give students an educational alternative freeing them from the confines of brick-and-mortar classrooms.

But questions remain about the academy:

Who is directing it?

Why did the North Bend School District — one of about 20 initially contacted — hop on board?

Virtual school

A partnership between K12, the Oregon Virtual Academy — a nonprofit organization that shares its name with the school — and the North Bend School District, ORVA is designed for children who aren’t thriving in a traditional public school model. It is expected to enroll 500 Oregon students in kindergarten through 10th grade in its first year and may draw up to 2,500 — including juniors and seniors — in its third year. The North Bend board approved a contract with the nonprofit in November.                                                                                         

Peter Stewart, the senior vice president of school development for K12, said the program would appeal to students who want to learn at their own pace, who can’t attend a traditional classroom on a regular basis or for military families who want to provide their children with a consistent education. K12 has programs in Idaho, Washington, Colorado, Wisconsin, Florida, California, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

“This is one option in the public school menu,” Stewart said. “It won’t be the right fit for a large percentage of families who are happy with their public schools, but for some others, this might be the right fit.”

Stewart said the program is individualized to meet student needs and every instructor will be Oregon certified. K12 would provide curriculum, technology and consulting services for the academy, which will be overseen by a governing board made up of a former superintendent, parents, an attorney and a CPA. The academy’s governing board is responsible for the operations and budget of the academy and will be accountable for monitoring K12’s performance.

“The boards can dismiss K12 if we fail to meet the terms of the contract, including if we do not help the school make progress academically,” Stewart wrote in an e-mail to The World on Dec. 13.

Board of directors

According to the Oregon Virtual Academy charter proposal, submitted to the School District, the charter board will include parent Kim Jonas; accountant and consultant Chelsea York, who works for Price Waterhouse Coopers; Steve Odell, an assistant U.S. attorney, District of Oregon; Rosemary Green Alva, a professional/technical bilingual writer who lives in Beaverton; and board Chairman Jack Reeves, a retired superintendent of two Texas school districts. He lives near Woodburn.

Except for Reeves and Alva, Stewart would not provide the cities of residence of the other directors and would not detail how or why most were chosen for the board or who chose them.

According to the e-mail from Stewart, Reeves was recommended to the ORVA Board by Rep. Betty Komp, D-Woodburn, chairwoman of the Oregon House Education Subcommittee on Innovation. Stewart said little about Alva except that she had friends from other states familiar with K12 schools, that she had inquired about how she could help bring this sort of option to Oregon and that she had studied the curriculum.

Randall Greenway, K12 director of school development, said North Bend residents would be chosen to expand the board of directors.

On Thursday, North Bend Superintendent B.J. Hollensteiner said she did not know all of ORVA’s board members and was primarily familiar with Reeves. Other North Bend board members, including Dave Ellingson, Deb Reid and Robert Adams Jr., also were unfamiliar with the academy’s board.

They all said they are supportive of the Virtual Academy and see it as an opportunity to help students who don’t fit the traditional school mold.

Why North Bend?

In the e-mail, Stewart said North Bend School District was among a group of approximately 20 districts K12 contacted. Each district had experience authorizing, evaluating and supporting charter schools and their boards, he said.

“Based upon interviews with a few, North Bend seemed to be the best fit. The schools they currently authorize are high performing,” Stewart wrote. “North Bend also has internal staff with expertise  in charters. They have clear policies and procedures and can provide guidance to charter leaders as they learn to work with families and the state’s education leadership in Salem.”

Stewart said Oregon was the first state to have a public online charter school — out of the Scio School District — and North Bend and the Lincoln County School District are seeking their own.

Hollensteiner said her district was approached by K12 via an e-mail that went out to many districts in the state.

“It looked very intriguing to us and we wrote back,” Hollensteiner said. “I think it’s a great opportunity for kids. ... It just opens up another door for them to attend a virtual school and (K12’s) curriculum is extremely strong.”

The waiver

Jim Moyer, North Bend’s director of curriculum and instruction, said less than 1 percent of public school children from the state are expected to attend the virtual school. With a proposed student population of about 2,000, Moyer said only about eight children from North Bend likely would attend the Oregon Virtual Academy.

And therein lies one problem for the virtual school.

Any Oregon charter school has to have a minimum enrollment of 25 students, Moyer said. Under current law for charter schools, 50 percent of those must come from the sponsoring district — in this case, North Bend.

 “You need to have enough students so it can pay for itself,” Moyer said.

The academy has submitted a waiver application with the State Board of Education, which would allow it to recruit students from outside of district boundaries.

Hollensteiner said she and representatives from the academy will go before the State Board on Jan. 17, to present their proposal.

According to the Charter School Agreement between North Bend and the academy, without the state waiver for the 50-percent-residency rule, the agreement will be subject to additional negotiations. Pending the Oregon Department of Education review and the Board of Education’s decision, it is the district’s intention to support the charter school’s launch this month or in February. ORVA would be permitted to operate the charter school for five school years.

 Morgan Allen, a legislative director for the Department of Education, said the state has received the charter agreement and the waiver request. He said the State Board has a policy to make a decision within 120 days of receipt.

“There are no hard and fast criteria for denying the waiver,” Allen said.

However, he listed four broad criteria that would drive the board’s decision, including whether the applicant promotes development of programs by providers, enhances the equitable access by underserved families to the public education of their choice, extends the equitable access to public support by all students or permits high quality programs of unusual cost.

Opposition

Despite the bright face the School District and K12 representatives have put on the academy, the online school already has  drawn some opposition. Bob De La Vergne, superintendent of Coos Bay schools, believes the academy would poach students from other districts (see sidebar). Also, a North Bend School Board member resigned over the issue.

Tom Hibbert stepped down in September after the virtual academy was brought up at a School Board retreat. He said he opposes the idea because virtual schools do not provide human interaction that he believes is necessary for student development. He added that he is not against technology but prefers brick-and-mortar schools.

“There is more to education than learning on a computer. There’s learning how to get along with students ... playing sports,” Hibbert said. “I think some aspects of education do lend themselves to computer or technology, but others do not.”

He said he is also concerned about how the virtual charter school would be funded.

According to the Charter School Agreement, the school would not charge tuition fees, but it may charge “reasonable fees for the processing of applications, instructional materials, after-school programs and student activities.” The charter school would receive state school funding based on average daily membership. Schools typically receive about $6,000 per student. In this case, that money would be split between the school, the district, and each student’s resident district, Moyer said. A 5-percent oversight fee per student would go to North Bend, to be split in half with the student’s resident district. The remaining 95 percent would go to the charter school. A fee also would go to the online school program and for purchase of materials or other budgeted items. He added that if a North Bend student were to join the online charter school, the school district would lose 95 percent of the average daily membership. To break even, about 20 students from other districts would need to join the charter school to make up for North Bend’s loss.

Moyer said the School District has put more than 200 hours of labor, rather than money, into the establishment of the academy, and the district does not see it as a revenue stream.

“We see it as another option or service for some kids,” Moyer said.
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By Alexander Rich, Staff Writer




It was a unanimous decision by the North Bend School Board to charter a new virtual school, but there is far less enthusiasm for the idea in Coos Bay.


Although Coos Bay Superintendent Bob De La Vergne said he generally prefers brick-and-mortar schools over the virtual kind, his principal concern with North Bend’s proposal is its request for a waiver from the Oregon State Board of Education.


If approved, the waiver could allow an unlimited number of students from outside the North Bend district to enroll in the charter school.


De La Vergne said North Bend would not have to compensate those districts that lose students to the virtual school. Meanwhile, North Bend would collect a small percentage of the state funding allocated for each student. The rest would go to the charter school.


In November, De La Vergne presented his concerns to the State Board of Education in Salem. He asked the board to deny the waiver and suggested North Bend was considering the proposal as a way to line their coffers.


“This is about generating revenue streams,” De La Vergne said. “It’s all about cash flow.”


At the November Coos Bay School Board meeting, the superintendent used even stronger language.


“It’s called poaching,” he said. “I’m glad we don’t do this here.”


Before joining Coos Bay in July, De La Vergne was superintendent of Blachly School District, which has a student body of fewer than 150. It’s districts like Blachly that De La Vergne was particularly concerned about.


“If you lose five or 10 kids, we can make do, but in smaller school districts, they might have to cut positions,” he said.


The item was presented to the Coos Bay board as an information item, so no action was taken on the matter. But Board member Donna Opitz registered her opposition to virtual schools like the one North Bend is proposing.

“I question trusting our education when it is in the hands of software companies,” she said. “That’s my perception. And I don’t like it.”


Another local superintendent seems less concerned about North Bend’s proposal.


Coquille Superintendent Diann Gillespie said she supports giving as many options to students as possible.


“I’m at the point in my career where the more alternatives we can give students, the better,” she said. “I’d hate to see kids leave the district, but it’s good to give them options.”
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Kandy wrote on Aug 12, 2008 9:55 AM:

I'm happy to take a bit of money from the brick and mortar schools, because they keep getting more and more, and not making any improvements with it. They need a complete overhaul, not more money thrown at them to try to patch the problems. I'm glad to be able to teach my child at home, and not have to pay for the very expensive hs curriculum's, which I can't afford. I also know people in Idaho who are thrilled with K12, and have had amazing results. I can't wait to try it out.

Kandy wrote on Aug 12, 2008 9:54 AM:

Personally, I'm excited about K12 coming to Oregon. We did the "other" va for Kindergarten, and my son learned almost nothing from the curriculum because he already knew it, and he wasn't allowed to test out of the units that he knew. Because of that, he was really bored, and we were both frustrated by the end of the year. (He did have a wonderful teacher, however.) He gets to socialize every Sabbath at church, and when we visit relatives or neighbors. I'm able to make sure that he is socializing with good kids, and I'm there to make sure he plays nice. As a matter of fact, the socialization aspect is a big reason why I DON'T want him in ps. Home is a much better atmosphere, where he can play more, and learn that he is loved.

george wrote on May 14, 2008 2:22 PM:

On the idea of socialization, we are assuming that if a kid isn't in school, they have no contact with other children of their age group. How narrow minded is that. What about church, many churches have activities during the week not just on Sun. What about 4-H and other afterschool groups . There are play groups and social groups abounding in most communities. All you have to do is look around . Sometimes diffrent is nothing more than diffrent.

A student (A person who would actully be affected) wrote on Jan 14, 2008 7:29 PM:

I was having some certain difficultys in school staying focused and being able to understand some of the ideas and no its not because of A.D.D or A.D.H.D wich seems to be all your "Professional's" answers to these qustions. but when my father wouldent listen to me and just thought i was screwing off or smokeing "weed" wich seems to be the answer after A.D.D well anyway so i couldent fihure out what was holding me back but then one day i looked up and realised the class was always so loud disrptive and just plain hard to learn in mabey im just "hyperactive" or "attention deffisit" or however you spell it or mabey people like me who dont like a lot of outside inturuption in the learning process (wich trust me im not the only one like me) but i do know people who do like the "brick and mortar schools" by the way guys what a dumb thing to call it how about Structure Schools well yeah anyway guys i just want you too actully listen to your kids if they say theyre haveing a problem in school they probably are and it dosent mean the need medication or that it must be DDDRRRUUUGGGGSSSS just talk to them and the alternative programs they have now that are in buildings SUCK just flat out SUCK the alternative school in coosbay has a couple of programs that arnt all thyre pep'ed up to be but i will give it to them there are some good results but its also fool of drugs trust me ie seen it and i know many fellow students that go there cuz being "stoned" and passing isnt hard becaus as long as they thinkyour sitting there working on something you pass it i was in the program and watched it go on so trust me i know what im talking about. (BUT I WILL ADMITT I DO BELIEVE GIVEING THE OPPTION TO KIDS UNDER 14 IS A BAD IDEA BECAUSE SCHOOL DOES HELP BUILD SOCIAL SKILLS) if you have any qustions or omments my email isslipknot_rocker911@yahoo.com

QuietlyMakingNoise wrote on Jan 13, 2008 2:56 PM:

First, the article is incoresct in stating that Oregon was the first state with an online public charter school. Both the Connections Academy and K12 had established schools in other states before coming to Oregon. Florida and California, for example, bith had established virtual public schools for several years before ORCA.

Schools are supposed to be for education not socializing. Before mindlessly spouting the "socialization" issue used to support public-schooling I suggest looking up the definition of the word.

We are a homeschool family. We choose to school at home because North Bend cannot provide a quality education to our children who work far aboove what is considered grade level in the public schools. In the past we have paid to use k12 as private homeschoolers. It is a good solid program providing a classical style education with the ability for students to work at there own pace.

Will we enroll our kids? Probably not, but only because we have been homeschooling for so long now that we do not feel the need or desire for that kind of structure. For many local students it will be a much improved environment for learning than what is currently available.




Paul wrote on Jan 13, 2008 12:37 PM:

I enrolled my son in the program in Scio, I have nothing but praise for the program. We live outside of town and the kids ride the buss when they attend the local school. They leave about 6:30am and return about 4:30pm thats 10 hours a day. I discovered that when at home my child attended class 5 hr. per day, I asked my wife why only 5 hours and she said that was 1 hr. more than the time in class when at regular school. When attending online school we received new books and supplies and the teacher was very very good, not to mention the class was 150 students. On the atricle I read here the discussion boiled down to "revenue stream" that is where it alwasy seems to go with the schools of today, so if we discuss revenue streams lets think about what we are receiving for our provided revenue stream to the brick and mortat schools. At the school where our children attended roughly 70% to 80% of the students when graduating do not fully fulfill the requirements of a high school education. If I take a contract to do a project and only fulfill 25% of the contract I only am entitled to 25% of the contract payment. Not so with the current brick and mortar schools, of course we will blame that on the parents and behavioral problems but I don't think 70% of the district falls under that assumption. Our experience with the virtual school was first rate and I would like to offer this thought. When my grandfather built a barn on our farm he built using the most advanced and efficient barn design available at that time, since then those old two story barns have became an unusable dinosaur, modern farm practices have changed to a system with very little manpower where 1 person can operate a previously 5 person operation. The barns are no longer two story wooden structures they are on one level and usually constructed of steel and limited wood. Our brick and mortar school system of today no longer fulfills the needs of ourchildren or the taxpayers, we need change and to be open minded enough to see what faces us. Reedsport recently passed a $10 million bond to attempt to repair its infrastructure, this is needed because maintainence money has needed to be used to pay for district payroll and retirements, now we are to invest $10 million into an obsolete infrastructure only to face the same problems a few years on down the line with no improvement in the overall system, with $10 million a n entirely new system could be built and the online concept can be blended with the old "brick and mortar" concept with a huge reduction in personnel and infrastructure and allow the students to be educated in a more modern manner. I do not think that this will come to pass soon because the "revenue stream" will change course and there are those whom are dependent on this current system that will not allow the needed change. However change for the better is coming down the track and those who are selfish and closed minded will continue to be troubled as this change is inevitable and will occur, how quickly is up to the (Voting) public. From my experience with the virtual school I support it 100% no doubt about it. Thank you.

Outsider wrote on Jan 13, 2008 11:25 AM:

I know that socialization is important at that age. However, we need to think of the children that live in the mountain areas that can not get to school due to weather. This would give the parents another option. I am in favor of the Virtual School. I am not sure that it will be good for children under the age of 10. But it is a good idea. I am aware that children need socialization but they could get it from other places other than school.
Parent's with children in this program will have to be more creative like home school parent's are. Oh did I mention the fact that if the children that live in rural area could go to school more days and the school district would save on busing and there by saving on gas.

As one of the writer's stated before, leave it to Coos Bay school district to complain. I have just moved to the area and that school district appears to have a pattern of financial issues and educational issues. For these reasons alone would give parent's in this district an option out without having to move.

Way to go North Bend School District for having the courage to think outside of the box when it comes to education.

cbmama wrote on Jan 12, 2008 5:21 PM:

I'm so sick of the "socialization" my kids are receiving in the public school system now I could scream. Problem children abound and my kids are constantly exposed to sex and drugs. It's gotten ridiculous. And just how many class parties, movies, bowling and swimming days are needed each year?! I lost count of the number of times I've had to pay for these activities when my kids should be spending the day in class learning!The kids aren't learning reading, writing, and arithmetic on a steady basis anymore. I support this charter school 100% for parents like me who are tired of the conditions of the public schools and feel the need to protect their kids from this kind of stuff. I supported the bond levy for NB. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Fred wrote on Jan 12, 2008 11:50 AM:

Leave it to Coos Bay to fight the future. The only 'poaching' going on is the slow stewing of students in the inefficient, obsolete and failing system we have now. Brick and mortar is doomed in the modern world. Children were not sent to school to be socialized, they were sent to learn. The current system is little more than a warehouse, and a poor one at that.

Nick wrote on Jan 12, 2008 11:39 AM:

Now, I DO like this option for students who are far away, who need to have some sort of schooling without having to spend hundreds of dollars a month or more in travel/boarding costs (students who likely would be "home schooled" if parents would be willing to take the time to do it).
But I know where this is leading with the NB School District... the leadership wants to spend as little as possible, so they've continued to cut as much as possible. Heck, why not just cut out the entire school infrastructure, and just leave a server farm somewhere?

Maybe a few school board members (actually, positions) need to be cut, if money's becoming a problem.

Nick wrote on Jan 12, 2008 11:31 AM:

M00NPENNY is correct. I consider myself a big user of modern technology, but many kids NEED to be in school for the socialization. Especially at the younger ages. I understand if this is for high-school students (part time, at least) or home-schooled students, but most kids need school.

The schools are getting worse and worse, the students "isn't" learning, and the curriculum is being dumbed down for the worst students, hurting the advancement of everyone else. Now, this school district wants to take away the social aspect of school? Maybe if North Bend wasn't so busy wasting their money on charter schools, they could afford to actually teach their students.

m00npenny wrote on Jan 12, 2008 10:56 AM:


For the younger children, 8th grade and younger, this is a horrible idea on so many levels.


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