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Robert wrote on Dec 14, 2007 3:49 PM:
Low paying jobs are low paying because undocumented workers are slaves to the US corporations. US workers would complain and the wages would go up. Illegal aliens are driving all our wages down.
Read "The Grapes of Wrath".
Harold wrote on Dec 14, 2007 3:44 PM:
Tim,
You said: "Are you aware that Militia groups patrol the Mexican border and shoot those who try to cross into the U.S., often killing them?"
Where did you get that information? Show me a source for that as this is the first I've heard about that.
And, by the way, there are 1.7 billion people who would take up your offer in a minute to just show up here and become US citizens. Better get that spare room ready. . .
Tim wrote on Dec 14, 2007 1:46 PM:
To "Karla Kaudel": I agree that illegal immigrants should not have the same rights as citizens...I simply think that they should be given a chance. Before throwing them in prison or having them deported, they should be given a fair and reasonable opportunity to become LEGAL citizens. If they choose not to take this chance and remain here illegally, then they should be deported...but NOT thrown in prison. Are you aware that Militia groups patrol the Mexican border and shoot those who try to cross into the U.S., often killing them? These groups are illegal and most are affiliated with white supremacist organizations, and yet they get away with murder because our government looks the other way. They call themselves "Patriots" and yet they're fighting AGAINST the ideals and values that our country was founded on. It sickens me. So Karla, I understand how you feel, being someone who worked hard to earn your right to live in the U.S.. I simply feel, as did this country's fore fathers, that citizenship shouldn't be something that one has to "work hard" to achieve. It should be a gift offered to all who wish to make a better life for their families in the U.S..
Karla Kaudel wrote on Dec 11, 2007 7:10 AM:
I am a legal immigrant. My family came here 13 years ago, we built our business, hired 15 employees, and got green card and later citizenship.
I am personally offended if illegal aliens get similar rights to mine. It is not the right thing to do, to live in a country and blatantly disrespecting its rules and laws.
So, any legislation tolerating illegal immigration is a slap in the face for my family.
Tim wrote on Dec 9, 2007 1:41 PM:
Illegal immigration is a tough issue to debate. Many people find it hard because they are NOT racist, but don't necessarily approve of illegals entering our country. For most Americans, though, I think it IS a race issue. Racism is still very much a problem in this country and most likely will be for a long time to come. Personally, I'm sometimes mildly annoyed by some of the illegal immigrants, but fully understand that our country was founded by illegal immigrants. We came from England and stole this land from the Native Americans...now we're afraid that will happen to us! D.R. said that "50% of them sell drugs". NOT TRUE. In some neighborhoods, maybe...but overall...no. There are FAR MORE white people selling drugs, committing murders and molesting children than any other race. A couple years ago I was in jail for a few days on a minor charge, and I wasn't too surprised to see that 1/2 the men in the Pod where I was kept were Mexican. I was a little surprised however, to find out that most of them were there NOT on drug charges or assault charges...but due to immigration issues. One man who spoke perfect english and was learning to read in jail, spent time every day on the phone with his American girlfriend and baby daughter. He was a very loving father and spoke to his girlfriend like she was a queen. He was also very intelligent, mature and kind. He was being sent to prison because he was in the country illegally. Our jails & prisons are already overcrowded enough...why are we sending illegal immigrants who are simply here trying to support their families there? It doesn't seem right to me. Yes they are breaking the law by being here...but if YOUR family was poor and hungry, don't you think you might break the law if it was the only way to provide for them? The one's that ARE involved with drugs or other criminal activities should be dealt with accordingly, but all others should be welcomed into our country with open arms...not thrown in prison. Otherwise we might as well tear down the Statue of Liberty.
Marvin McConoughey wrote on Dec 7, 2007 9:44 AM:
Illegal immigration discussion focuses mostly on invaders from our southern neighbors. But some of the arguments for allowing illegals to enter and be accepted apply equally well to all nations of the world. Supporters of illegal immigration need to do some serious thinking about the long term implications of unchecked illegal immigration. The world has about two billion impoverished people who would benefit from coming here. The question is, would we the lawful citizens of this uniquely wonderful nation benefit? I suggest that there is more to being an American than having cheap illegal labor.
Judy wrote on Dec 4, 2007 3:14 PM:
How did we ever survive before illegals came here to take over all the low paying jobs??
Jim wrote on Dec 1, 2007 9:27 PM:
Hey Sam.....ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT is not a race. Stop dropping the politically correct buzzwords and start supporting the laws of this country instead of bashing law abiding citizens...
Jim wrote on Dec 1, 2007 9:07 PM:
What part about the word "illegal" dont people understand? I forget, though, that these are the same people who had a hard time understanding the meaning of the word "is."
D.R. wrote on Nov 25, 2007 3:30 PM:
to 415 the economy will go up since the illegals send there money out of the counrty dont you understand that?if the money stays here and is spent at stores or other places in oregon the economy will be better, come on think.
to ME, let me restate that for your ignorant brain alot of them over 50% sell drugs then, happy? go live in the ghetto with them and see for yourself i'm sure your defending them since you probable know a couple of the decent ones, but you dont know how they really live there lives do you? and Richard is right displacing legal workers, and making them move out of there own towns and states to lower costing places which is funny you really dont see illegals in lower costing cities, believe me i travel alot, and pay attention to that fact incase i would like to move somewhere else, since i dont wanna live with people like them. you see them more in bigger cities that cost more to live funny? its cuz they MAKE ALOT OF MONEY PEOPLE anyway they can, they have no morals or common sense just look at the countries they came from, no sewer systems no recylcling, the only places that have good stuff are the tourist cities in foriegn countries and who pays for that stuff? the tourist! damn i'm good lol.wake up people theve metioned on the radio there tryin to take over california and when they run that place into the ground like mexico and theres no money to be made there anymore they will go somewhere else like oregon, hello do some research dont just state your opinion that doesnt have any facts in it. go live with those people or research whats really goin on just dont watch it on the BOOB TOOB you have internet access, go to www.grassfire.org
Richard wrote on Nov 21, 2007 11:23 PM:
Lets carry this one step further: Recall all the licenses issued to illegals.
Get them off the road and deport.
To all the race baiting wannabe farmers: Stop with the lies about "who will pick my crops". Just because you keep telling it doesn't make it true.
40 years ago, Cesar Chavez stood up to you people, protecting the rights of LEGAL WORKERS and told everyone that would listen to stop with illegal immigration, but nobody listened.
Don't believe me? Just look at places like California, Arizona, Texas, Colorado, Georgia, etc., flooded with illegal aliens, displacing LEGAL workers.
Those that would pull out the race card on this issue are racists themselves.
Deal with it
Me wrote on Nov 21, 2007 9:52 AM:
I can not believe how ignorant some people are. Just because people are illegal doesn't mean they sell drugs. What ignorance.
415 wrote on Nov 20, 2007 10:34 PM:
I thinks this is a bad idea because just think of all those people that will lose their jobs, our economy will go down like in those states where illegal people aren't allowed, people will be hiding!
D.R. wrote on Nov 20, 2007 7:45 PM:
dont support illegal immigration, just drive through california and look, soon more states will be lookin like cali. just grow your own fruits and veggies, because if more people did then there would be less of a need for these people that arent needed anyways, they get paid more then min wage dont let them fool you, i lived in so.cali for a long time they all get paid cash $8-14 hr, plus they get welfare, food stamps, section 8, free medical, i've seen them inline cashing there welfare checks $1400 every 2 weeks WTF what a waiste of tax money, plus they sell drugs on the side and anything else they can do to make extra cash, rob,prostition, have more kids, if every tried as hard as possibly to go around companies that employ these people there will be less of a demand for them, try everyone help support real americans that dont send american money out of the U.S. that also is another issue, since it ruins the economic circle since the money gets pulled out and never returned then all us taxpayers have to pay more taxes, so next time you see some illegals out there make fun of them let them know there not welcome thats what we do, and believe me you go to an all hispanic area and they'll do the same to you.
citizen wrote on Nov 16, 2007 4:11 PM:
Hello... What a better way to keep track of people who are illegal. Give them a drivers license. I would rather know where they are and where they live than not know at all. I am hispanic and half of my family are 'illegal', but keeping them from getting licenses only puts them into hiding. With a license we can keep record of where people are. If Mr. Moncada Garcia wouldn't of had a license or his truck registered in his name, they may have never found him. Think about it..
Mark Smith wrote on Nov 15, 2007 9:26 PM:
To Sam: Racism survives because people like you don't know the difference between racism and illegal immigration. If you would care to educate yourself on the issues you would clearly see that the two don't go hand in hand.
Sam wrote on Nov 15, 2007 7:52 AM:
Angelo, you're the film director. The website looks interesting. Will your film ever be in theaters along the West Coast? We will probably never see it in small racist communities like ours.
R.J. wrote on Nov 14, 2007 11:51 PM:
Nicely said, Angelo. Mark, just for one instance couldn't you heed what Angelo said and "appreciate and respect those people who grow and harvest our crops. The men and women that put food on our kitchen tables deserve no less." We DO benefit from the hard work of many illegal immigrants.
Betty Schumacher wrote on Nov 14, 2007 9:20 PM:
Mark Smith, will you or any member of your family be picking our fruits and vegetables come harvest time and do it without complaints and for minimum wage?....I think not!
karen wrote on Nov 14, 2007 8:17 PM:
Politicians are NOT representing the American people any more. They are serving themselves and special interests. Illegal is illegal. My great grandparents came to the US and became citizens,married, raised their families. They did it the RIGHT way. Not climbing a fence and demanding to be made legal-having anchor babies to secure their residence. It makes me sick. Oh yes-if an illegal commits a crime here-law enforcement must notifty them of the right to contact their consulate and be represented by their county...try that in Mexico..where there is NO civil court....Let's take a stand and vote OUT those politicans who support anything other than deporting illegals....
Concerned Citizen wrote on Nov 14, 2007 6:25 PM:
If this makes the ballot, they have my vote! I sure hope it does as this insanity needs to stop.
Mark Smith wrote on Nov 14, 2007 2:51 PM:
Angelo, sorry to say but there are NO benefits to illegal immigration. There are only expenses. No matter how you justify it, illegal immigrants cost America BILLIONs of dollars. Sure it is tough to get into America legally. Maybe it's because we have almost 300 million people already! Agriculural needs are an issue, but certainly not one worthy of accepting people in our country illegally. In almost any other country, you go to Jail for that and are deported! Even Mexico does that. Who do you think the illegals are? Are they all the good, honest hard working people? Or are they the ones that were in their own country not able to survive on their skills, so they want to come here?
Angelo Mancuso wrote on Nov 14, 2007 1:22 PM:
Tougher drivers license's are fine. But there are many other positive benefits that immigrants bring to this great nation.
Before you throught the baby out with the bath water we need a nonpartisan discussion.
Politicians and Americans for that matter should take a look at "American Harvest." Its a non-partisan feature length documentary about immigration as it relates to agriculture. It presents the facts as they are without political bias.
Every farmer I have spoken to wants to secure our borders. And they also want a workable solution to LEGAL immigration.
Americans have to understand that we all need to appreciate and respect those people who grow and harvest our crops.
The men and women that put food on our kitchen tables deserve no less.
http://www.americanharvestmovie.com
Terry wrote on Nov 14, 2007 1:11 PM:
"immigrant rights activist Aeryca Steinbauer said immigration needs to be handled at the federal level"
Federal level? So when you say Federal level you mean the politicians who have been bought and paid for by special interest groups like the ACLU, La Raza, Maldef, etc. correct?
In the United States the Federal Government or Republic, can not exist without the States. The States can not exist without the cities. The cities can't exist without the citizen. In the United States, all of the above is the Federal Government. The Constitution of the United States grants powers to Congress to regulate legal immigration. The citizens are the United States and we can make laws, modify the Constitution and if angered enough, throw it away so when you state Federal level, keep in mind who the Federal Government really is.
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