Proving identity increasingly difficult

By Dan Schreiber, Staff Writer
Monday, May 17, 2004 | 12 comment(s)

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In an age when computer data dictates the distribution of money and resources and theft is merely a matter of PIN (personal identification) numbers and a few simple key strokes, government agencies have upped requirements for proof of identity.

This may not be easily explained to a generation older Americans who watch with amazement the acceleration of technology. Small-town residents, especially, are accustomed to being identified by sight or a simple driver's license.

But, according to Social Security Administration policy, because of an increasing problem with identity theft, applicants for new cards must prove they have "existed and continue to exist." Identification must have been established at some point after birth and be of recent issuance to the individual. Acceptable forms of identification include a passport, driver's licenses, employee ID card, military records, school ID, marriage records and hospital records. Birth certificates are not sufficient forms of ID, according to SSA policy, because they could represent a person who has died.

Forty-two years have passed since Warner "Van" VanSchoyck, 87, a World War II veteran, started receiving benefits at the Social Security office in Coos Bay.

When his wallet was stolen recently, he said SSA personnel made it difficult for him to receive a new card, preventing him from getting necessary benefits.

To verify his identity, he said, he brought a letter from Chuck Knight, Coos Bay city manager; a U.S. ordinance inspector ID; medical records and military records. But after three visits, he said, this was not enough for Social Security personnel to issue a new card.

"That does not sound like our country," he said.

VanSchoyck said he provided at least two of the identification sources on the list, but did not receive a new card in a timely fashion.

Curt Benward, district manager at the SSA office in Coos Bay, said he cannot comment on the case specifically, but that administration policy indicates acceptability of documents can vary case by case and takes into account an applicant's situation.

"People don't realize the requirements until they lose the card," Benward said. "We want to make sure the person we're giving the card to is that person."

VanSchoyck, who said he is appalled at what is required of him to prove his identity, said that the addition of a security guard to the office after Sept. 11, 2001, also made him uncomfortable. Other local Social Security recipients feel the same.

"Before, I was used to coming here and it was nice and quiet," said Bruce Donovan, 44, of Coos Bay. "Now they act like you're going to hold them up. Sometimes I think people let their job go to their head too much and it's a waste of taxpayer money."

Security guard Jack McCullough, formerly of Roseburg who moved to Coos Bay for the job, works for Wackenhut, a private Florida-based company. He began guarding the local office in October 2001. Since then, he said, 15 to 20 people have come into the office with guns, all with permits. Knives make up the majority of prohibited articles he sees. McCullough said he faxes reports of all weapons to the Federal Protective Service, Homeland Security office in Portland.

"Some irate people come in here if they didn't receive their checks," McCullough said.

VanSchoyck, a former sheriff of Lakeside who has worked in law enforcement in Empire and Powers, said he was frustrated SSA personnel could not identify him by sight because he has been going to the office more than four decades. But the rules are in place to protect residents, officials say.

"He should be glad we don't just roll over and give out his information," said Willie Sadler, a receptionist at the SSA. "In the electronic age, all you need are numbers. He doesn't appreciate the danger he faces," adding SSA workers catch fake documents three to four times a year.

Although security has been stepped up in the local office, it wasn't terrorism related.

"The reason they are so stringent is not because of 9-11, it has to do with identity theft in the U.S.," Benward said.

He said the door guard has been the only security difference in the office after Sept. 11, 2001.

But VanSchoyck still maintains he was treated poorly at the office.

"Everyone that comes in the office, he (McCullough) asks them if they have a gun," VanSchoyck said. "I still have my gun. I can carry a weapon so that's not doing very much good," he said about the guard.

"I can't understand that. I lived here for a long time and I have never been so embarrassed."
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????????? wrote on Mar 20, 2008 8:31 PM:

Well this goes to show that this is the best coo's county can do.I can't see this lady getting 90 DAYS for helping a person murder another person.this makes me sick.

Unknown wrote on Mar 10, 2008 11:44 AM:

THAT WAS SO SAD!!!!!!!!!!!

Ray Doering wrote on Feb 20, 2008 1:54 PM:

More Port Information

Judy Reyes wrote on Aug 15, 2007 1:37 AM:

Hello My name is Judy Reyes I have looked on every web site for Coos county animal shelter & can not find it . I an looking for a small young female dog . a poodle or poodle mix or a cock a poo . I live in Albany Or, coos bay was our home for many years . We adopted a dog from coos counnty and had him for 15 yrs . we have a very nice home & all fenced . & have love to spare for animals . we have no other dogs & no children . I am retired & homr most of the time . Thanks for your help. E. Mail reyesletro 2@ aol.com Sincerely Judy Reyes

Community editor Hallie Winchell wrote on Jul 27, 2007 10:10 AM:

The Teen Idol contest was held at the Coos County Fair this week, as mentioned in the story above. The rest of the competition is scheduled to be held at the Egyptian Theatre in downtown Coos Bay starting again on Thursday, Aug. 2. - Community Editor Hallie Winchell

Dorothy wrote on Jul 26, 2007 6:13 PM:

We, my husband and sister-in-law and I went to the Egyptian Theater tonight to watch the "Teen Idol." NO ONE was there and there were no messages regarding this program??? What's the deal here? We thought as stated in your web site above that it would be there on Thursday evenings at least through mid-August.. I look forward to hearin from you

Clint Guevara wrote on Jul 23, 2007 10:46 PM:

It is an honor to particapate in Teen Idol, I'm having the time of my life. I get really excited when I see the turn out of people, friends and family at the Egyptian theatre. Thanks for your support! See you at the fair. Peace Out :)

Star Moralez wrote on Jul 17, 2007 7:11 PM:

Teen Idol is one of the best experiences Ive ever had and I hope that everyone gets out here and supports us at the Egyptian this Thursday!!! *Rock On* ~Star Moralez~

anamaria wrote on May 25, 2007 5:06 PM:

It doesn't matter what the administration says about what we've been hurt by or not hurt by!! There is such a thing as a RIPPLE effect.Because we lost a substantial source of revenue,Not only with the 2006 closure but the early closure in June of 2005 we all have incurred numerous bills that literally have many SERIOUS fisherman on the ropes!!Meaning those of us that earn every dime we make from Commercial fishing!Yes we were eligible for loans from the S.B.A. but thats just another Bill every month that we don't need!!It's kinda funny that they completely shut off the fishery for part of one year and totally for the next,but now we have all this time and unrestricted area to fish for Salmon but,to Date, we have a Whopping 62 fish in for the Year!!!There have been NO SALMON thus far!!The bills are still coming in and it is unconscionable to think for even one moment that we don't need every one of those disaster relief dollars!!DONALD JACOBS F/V ANA MARIA !

camj wrote on Feb 12, 2007 7:50 PM:

what a shame that a good peice of land is to be used for homes I hope every high tide floods them out

Bob wrote on Jan 26, 2007 5:10 PM:

"It is located here because this is where the proponents chose to locate it" -Why didn't I think of that? Enlightening info! Thank you.

Mr E wrote on Nov 29, 2006 3:00 PM:

What a shock, someone from out of state trying to tell us what to do in our own backyard.


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